Free The Aqua Teen Hunger Force Two

Via Taylor Marsh, here is the video of the arrested Aqua Teen Hunger Force marketers giving the finger to the media:

I looked over at Blue Mass Group to get a local perspective on this story. I was pretty surprised to see that most commenters actually wanted to see some pretty heavy fines doled out to the company, or at least that the local cities should sue Turner Broadcasting for millions of dollars over the incident. I was expecting more anger at what seems to be a massive over-reaction by the local police force. From my perspective, this is an utter inability to tell the difference between real threats and non-threats that resulted in a huge waste of government resources. However, from the perspective of the media and elected officials in Boston--and even to a certain extent from local progressive commenters--all of the fault appears to rest on the marketers. Apparently, because of 9/11 (media and elected officials in Massachusetts have repeatedly played this card during the incident) any governmental over-reaction and inability to tell something is and is not a threat is justified, and those who point out the governmental incompetence and fear-mongering and considered "not serious." Does this sound familiar to anyone?

I wish I had run into one of those signs when I was in the area this past weekend. If people in Boston are pissed, they should be pissed at their incompetent public officials. There were ten other cities that didn't react in this manner to the exact same marketing campaign, just like there were other countries that didn't react to a major terrorist attack by idiotic invading a country that had nothing to do with it. If progressive in Massachusetts want to defend their public officials over this incident in the same way that wingnuts have long defended Bush over Iraq, that is their business. However, in doing so, they are contributed to the culture of fear that has recently governmental justification of a wide range of extreme, anti-democratic measures. Maybe next Massachusettes should suspend habeous corpus, institute a statewide Patriot Act, and invade Rhode Island because of 9/11. .



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Freaking hilarious (none / 0)

Seriously, they were scared of Aqua Teen Hunger Force? The Fry guy? If you're going to be scared, be concerned about the meat patty.  That dude is devoid of logic.


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by utbrian on Thu Feb 01, 2007 at 03:44:02 PM EST

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It's hilarious when newspeople who don't get Aqua Teen Hunger Force try to write about Aqua Teen Hunger Force.

That is all.


by spatne on Thu Feb 01, 2007 at 03:47:34 PM EST

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Someone correct me if I am wrong but I thought the marketing group said these signs have been up for a couple of weeks.  If that is true, then the level of incopetence of the Boston city government and the Boston PoPO is enormous.  


by yitbos96bb on Thu Feb 01, 2007 at 03:56:13 PM EST

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They campaign is actually is several cities and they have been up in all of these cities for +2 weeks until Boston has its problem.


by MrMacMan on Thu Feb 01, 2007 at 05:20:08 PM EST
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I agree, it's hilarious -- in retrospect. We can now all laugh about it.

But the fact of the matter is that what local officials saw (and let's face it, they're not hip to Adult Swim) was a series of blinking lights underneath bridges across the city. From the position these were in, it was extremely hard to tell whether there were any explosives or whatever behind the light-brights. And even if you knew the reference, you might wonder if the terrorists are not of the Al-Qaida type but of some other nature with a sense of humor.

Was there incompetence? Absolutely. And at every level. Is it hilarious/scary that a bunch of blinking lights could monkeywrench an entire city? You bet. But let's not forget who caused the trouble for the city. Not the local officials, not the police.


by afertig on Thu Feb 01, 2007 at 03:56:59 PM EST

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Yes, and it's extremely difficult to ensure that any random road at ground level in any country isn't mined underneath so that it will collapse under a large amount of weight.

Your logic is specious; blinking lights != bomb. An object that obstructs vision != bomb. The police and  local officials are idiots here, either not understanding how stupidly they acted, or trying to cover it up.

Frankly, the primary purpose of a terrorist attack is to produce terror, not a particular death count. With no significant provocation, the Boston Police and local officials acted terrorized, and therefore caused damage to their own city with no terrorist involved. The proper response would have been to take one, and figure out what it was. The lack of explosives would have been a hint that it likely wasn't a bomb.


by Zimbel on Thu Feb 01, 2007 at 04:31:14 PM EST
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Well, here's the thing. These were up in prominate places all over the country, and they have been for the past two weeks. Thousands upon thousands of people have seen these things. Even if a few of them called the police to report a suspicious looking object, no other police department in the country determined these things looked suspicious.

I've seen a bunch of video of these things, and if you get at all close to them (which any investigating cop or bomb squad guy had to do) they very clearly look like circuit boards with lights, four magnets and a battery pack. If the battery pack was covered, I could see a little worring over explosives in there, but with the batteries exposed, I just don't see where you could hide explosives.

As far as I can tell, these guys did nothing wrong. If the NYPD overreacted to that giant blinking History Channel sign I see every time I enter the city, who would you blame? The History Channel who "caused the trouble for the city"?

Seems to me the city got itself into trouble.


by pluto101 on Thu Feb 01, 2007 at 04:52:36 PM EST
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It takes a lot of most explosives to be able to take out anything significant (such as a bridge) built reasonably with adequate building codes. The battery pack appears to be not large enough to do much structural damage to any reasonable structure (i.e. one that wasn't actively falling apart, or about to) unless it was nuclear or matter/antimatter. Note that it's smaller than the smallest known nukes, and no one has built a matter/antimatter bomb, so I think that the suggestion that it's not a bomb should have carried a great deal of weight.


by Zimbel on Thu Feb 01, 2007 at 05:03:12 PM EST
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This administration has become aware of efforts by Harvey Birdman to acquire deadly antimatter!!!


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by Valatan on Thu Feb 01, 2007 at 09:54:36 PM EST
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It seems to me that the reporting on this story has been absolutely terrible.  

First of all, it doesn't appear to be true that these things were placed in bridges across the city.  There is a map of the location where they located at the Boston Globe website, and looking at it it appears that most of them were along the highway.  Now, signs are often placed on highway overpasses.  Yes, these signs were a bit different that the standard "Support our Troops" signs you see on highways, but I don't think "highway overpass" is inherently nearly as suspcious a location as "under bridges".

Now, at least one of these was placed on a bridge, but the implication of "under bridges" is that it was hidden somehow.  That doesn't appear to be the case.  Placing something on the supports of a bridge, but in way to be highly visible from high traffic locations is not at all the same thing.

The other aspect of this story to be completely underreported is that apparently two fake pipe bombs were found, completely unrelated to the ATHF advertising.  Here is the source: http://news.bostonherald.com/localRegion al/view.bg?articleid=180349.

If the Herald report is true, it at least makes the police reaction a bit more understandable, although it makes the politicians reactions and the charges against the people who put up the ATHF advertising even more inexplicable.


by TimSackton on Thu Feb 01, 2007 at 06:29:45 PM EST
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I live in Chicago, one of the cities this campaign was run in. We have a mayor who always struts about how tough he is (he's one W's favorite mayors), but somehow we didn't shut down the streets when these widgets dropped in. Maybe nobody saw them, but I can't help wondering what they're smokong in MA


by thelonius on Thu Feb 01, 2007 at 04:14:38 PM EST

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Your analogy is nonsense. In fact, you are defending the right of corporations to deface public property, to take over public space, to do whatever the hell they want. I opposed even the attack on Afghanistan and all the overreaction in response to 9/11, but I don't know what else law enforcement was supposed to do in response to calls about these odd things displayed. CNN exploited it and publicized it to the hilt, spreading alarm--when THEIR OWNERS WERE ULTIMATELY RESPONSIBLE. Their stupidity is the most egregious. I most deeply resent the continued incursion of marketing and corporations into every aspect of our lives--and the willingness of many supposed progressive to acquiesce in it.


by skeptica on Thu Feb 01, 2007 at 04:28:35 PM EST

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Hardly. These devices should have been removed, and the company who placed them fined (assuming that they were placed illegally). However, that isn't a reason to shut down portions of a city for a day.


by Zimbel on Thu Feb 01, 2007 at 04:34:51 PM EST
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Dude it was a 'bad' ad campaign that for some reason the police thought were bombs.

There was no real reason to think they were bombs... besides they were using LEDs and they were essentially a big light-bright.

It's a silly show and a overblown and massive over-response in police presence.

I mean they aren't even permeant structures, they are portable and easily removed.


by MrMacMan on Thu Feb 01, 2007 at 05:22:57 PM EST
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I'm confused - did Time Warner perpetuate a bomb hoax, or did the cops get an advertisement CONFUSED with a hoax? If I spill a sugar/salt mix on my dorm building's kitchen floor while cooking and leave the room to get a broom, and someone else walks into the room while I'm gone and calls the cops because of the white substance, am I in trouble for perpetuating an antrhax hoax because the cops were confused? Or did these guys actually mean to fool people into thinking these were bombs? I'm confused...


Ever heard of a Blue Moose Democrat?
by Nathan Empsall on Thu Feb 01, 2007 at 04:38:45 PM EST

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That's just it. The use of the word hoax is inflammatory and false. The police mistaked these things for bombs, when at night they are lit-up ads that don't flash, they look lite lite-brights or neon signs.

They aren't bombs, they weren't intended to be bombs, they were intended to promote a damn fine tv show.

And your anthrax example is spot on.


by pluto101 on Thu Feb 01, 2007 at 04:45:45 PM EST
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On another note, I'm sure they're taking this seriously. They're facing jail time and big fines - they're probably taking this a lot more seriously than most of the reporters. But I would highlight the difference between taking the charges and "crime" seriously and taking the media seriously.


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by Nathan Empsall on Thu Feb 01, 2007 at 04:39:32 PM EST

As well they should be (none / 0)

There are laws against leaving unattended items lying around like that. I wonder how funny people would think it was if someone went dropping off suitcases on NYC subway trains.


by OfficeOfLife on Thu Feb 01, 2007 at 05:36:18 PM EST
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Seriously? (none / 0)

And if the suitcases were in fact boxes of dunkin donuts, would you hide under your bed?


by Nazgul35 on Thu Feb 01, 2007 at 05:45:32 PM EST
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You want to volunteer as the official Unknown Suitcase Opener? A lot of NYC cops would be glad to give you the position.


by OfficeOfLife on Thu Feb 01, 2007 at 06:15:07 PM EST
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Re: As well they should be (3.00 / 1)

So you would support felony charges against someone who forgets there bag on the subway?  If these people were being charged with a vandalism or some other minor misdemeanor, that would be one thing.  But they are being charged with a felony, which puts this in a whole different class.

I know this isn't quite the same thing -- but the logical end result of not taking intent into account, and also the increasing paranoia in our society, is that eventually anyone who loses a cell phone is going to be a criminal.

After all, that cell phone on the subway seat could easily be a bomb, right?  And once people panic, whoever caused the panic is liable, even if they did not intent to cause panic?


by TimSackton on Thu Feb 01, 2007 at 06:34:56 PM EST
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You know, every time I make a bomb, I'm sure to put lots of blinking lights on it.  Especially if I'm going to place it under a bridge.  

The ONLY reason Boston will pursue this in court is for appearances.  The authorities made a mess and now they have to pretend it's serious in order to look tough.  

Not much different from the reason al Libi was tortured.  
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by Grand Moff Texan on Thu Feb 01, 2007 at 04:43:35 PM EST

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I live only a few miles away from several of the sites where these devices were placed. If I hadn't made the mistake of turning on cable news, I would not have known about it until it was long over. There was no panic in Boston or surrounding areas. There was a huge unnecessary cost to law enforcement because of corporate arrogance and stupidity, the arrogation of all public space by marketing.


by skeptica on Thu Feb 01, 2007 at 04:43:37 PM EST

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I see. Because the local government reacted idiotically to the situation, it is still the fault of the people who placed things there.

Since you resent the acquiensce of progressive in corporate marketing scams, I resent your acquiesence in government over-reaction to threats like these. Really--what else was the government supposed to do to that kid wearing a shroud to protest Abu Gharib outside a federal building? In the end, its his fault.
by Chris Bowers on Thu Feb 01, 2007 at 05:01:22 PM EST
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This was NOT  an individual's response--it was a corporate marketing ploy. Just because you call yourself an "artist" gives you no special rights when you sell your skills and talent and soul.


by skeptica on Thu Feb 01, 2007 at 05:31:16 PM EST
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Hypothetical (3.00 / 1)

Perhaps here's another way to look at this:

Let's propose that J is a spray-paint artist. J spray-paints quotes from his/her favorite religious text, which just happens to have a bunch of references to the end of the world, onto objects that don't belong to J without the permission of the owners.

K sees one of these references, and being mentally ill/heavily drugged, decides that it really is the end of the world tomorrow, so K commits suicide in response, leaving a suicide note indicating exactly why K did so.

Eventually, law enforcement apprehends J. Which of the following is the appropriate response:

  1. Charge J with multiple counts of graffiti (or the equivalent in local legal parlance).
  2. Charge J with the murder of K.

I would argue that the appropriate response is the first one. J's response was an unforseeable reaction to K's actions, so J should not be held accountable.

In the actual case, a few graffiti or defacement-type violations may be appropriate depending on exactly what the local laws are, and if they had secured proper permission. Trying to tie this to a completely unforseeable overreaction by police and local officials, and manufacturing charges related to that overreaction is not appropriate.


by Zimbel on Thu Feb 01, 2007 at 05:50:22 PM EST
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I apologize if the above comment is taken to be a slur on the mentally ill; this was not my intent, but upon re-reading the post, I think it could be construed as such.

"Mentally incompetent" would have been a better term in its place, since it has the desired legal meaning.


by Zimbel on Thu Feb 01, 2007 at 05:57:16 PM EST
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Just to be clear, you think that because this was paid for by a large corporation, the "arrogation of public space" means that they were to blame? How large does the corporation have to be for the BPD not to be called out for idiocy?

Let us know, because I have some friends in a band and maybe you think their posters on the telephone poles kinda look like bombs.


by sdedeo on Thu Feb 01, 2007 at 05:36:06 PM EST
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That is interesting (3.00 / 2)

corporate arrogance and stupidity, the arrogation of all public space by marketing.

So do I take it then that your response would have been entirely different if, instead of an LED sign of a cartoon character paid for by cartoon network, the LED sign had been independently created by a local artist and was displaying something entirely noncorporate-- say, the words "ANDRE THE GIANT HAS A POSSE" or something?


by Silent sound on Thu Feb 01, 2007 at 08:35:24 PM EST
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Assume for a moment that by sending a major American city into a panic, shutting down roads, and spending a million dollars of taxpayer money on their own paranoia the authorities in Boston were just being prudent and responsible.  It would then follow that the authorities in Chicago, Los Angeles, Austin, and 7 other major US cities were acting irresponsibly by not losing their fucking minds at the same advertisements.  Is that really the position that Boston wants to stake out?  That they're right, and everybody else is just incompetent or careless?


by libdevil on Thu Feb 01, 2007 at 04:48:45 PM EST

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Dunno. I like this: "Actually, I find myself a little appalled by both the stupidity of the marketing campaign and the hysterical overreaction of the authorities. I mean, this has got to be the most overblown case of littering in Massachusetts since Alice's Restaurant." From bluemassgroup.com.


by skeptica on Thu Feb 01, 2007 at 05:41:11 PM EST
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I love this video.  Awesomely pomo.


by Reece on Thu Feb 01, 2007 at 04:58:45 PM EST

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Just another step in the "securitization" of America. That the news agencies went along with it is disappointing, but routine at this point. Any kind of non-government approved public intervention (and yes, I get the flip side which is do we want a corporation doing it, but that's a separate issue) -- terrorism.

Don't be surprised when they come for you! Yeah, you, the guy putting up that sign! You are perpertrating a hoax and will have some serious jail time! WE ARE AT WAR

First the came for Aqua Teen Hunger Force, and I did not speak up, because I was not Aqua Teen Hunger Force.


by sdedeo on Thu Feb 01, 2007 at 05:23:25 PM EST

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OMG, I just watched the video. These guys are my new heros.

Reporter: Please justify our coverage of this non-event!
Dreadlocks guy: This is how ridiculous you are.
Reporter: Widespread panic! Don't you understand that our advertisers have to move these widgets?
Seventies guy: What I am currently saying is ridiculous, but you will, if you look carefully, realize that while we are "rubber" you, on the other hand, are "glue."
Reporter: Are you not taking us seriously?
Deadlocks guy: No, we are not. And neither is anybody else.


by sdedeo on Thu Feb 01, 2007 at 05:28:00 PM EST

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Boston clearly over-reacted, but I think that ad is in EXTREMELY poor taste, playing off of 9/11 like that. There's fryguy giving everyone the finger to boot. I watch the show pretty often, but what the hell were they thinking?


by OfficeOfLife on Thu Feb 01, 2007 at 05:32:22 PM EST

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Huh? What ad? I thought those were signs made by people to show support for the two guys and mock the mayor's comparing it to 9.11.

Seriously though as Atrios always says... the Stupid, it burns!

I am so ashamed of Massachusetts. Bad example of liberals.


by MNPundit on Thu Feb 01, 2007 at 06:00:59 PM EST
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That's not the ad. That's somone's reaction to this story. The name is Frylock not "fryguy" and that's not Frylock anyway, it's one of the mooninites, though I can't remember which one. The mooninite gives the finger in every episode in which they appear. It's also not a box as some have said. It's a board with batteries, wire and LEDs. I understand people calling them in, but the police should have taken one look at them and shrugged them off. I've been giggling since I heard this news, but the incompetence of the first responders, the pols and the press is frightening.


by JoeHill on Thu Feb 01, 2007 at 08:14:19 PM EST
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Bruce Schneier's take (none / 0)

Bruce Schneier is a real security expert, and he thinks it is a hilarious over-reaction.  
http://www.schneier.com/blog/archives/20 07/02/nonterrorist_em.html
by TimSackton on Thu Feb 01, 2007 at 06:41:35 PM EST

make Boston Police Dept. a laughingstock (none / 0)

I think the best we can do with this situation is to make fun of the Boston police department's overreaction, making them the butt of jokes for a few years.  Get it into the culture enough, and the next cop that sees a non-threatening "suspicious" package will think "hmm, will I make the whole dept. into the next boston police department"?  Shame is a  powerful feedback mechanism.

Never forget 1-31-07, the day they came for our blinky lights.


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by aip on Thu Feb 01, 2007 at 07:29:13 PM EST

Banned In Boston (none / 0)

I've been around Boston. It's a strange place. It's not like a normal city. It's very small, just a small as could be, and still be eligible to be a 'big city'. Now, it has OVER 20 COMPLETE COLLEGES, not even counting all the junior colleges. It has Harvard, but here's one thing about them: they completely did away with their fine arts program because it wasn't academicy enough for them. In fact, almost a decade ago, the city had a really first-rate art center, where for no charge, you could go in and look at lots of really great stuff. But nobody in Boston wanted to fund it, so they just let it die. Meanwhile, the 'big dig', which was mainly about building tunnels for autos under the city, had 3x cost overruns, costing 30 billion dollars, 9 billion of which wet to build a tunnel to Logan Airport (which, I hear, is just a spot in the Atlantic that was built up with landfill or something, and will go under soon with a few more inches of ocean. Like New Orleans, really.) The people in Boston are notoriously uppity, on average. But hipness is not acceptable there. They are way above that! So it's not that surprising. That all those other cities could handle it without a witch-hunt (which they really had up a few miles north in Salem!) will put them in a poor light. They should just quietly get over it. Maybe just fine the company for littering or something, and for removal costs. They should play it low key. But it's Boston, you know.


by blues on Thu Feb 01, 2007 at 07:32:40 PM EST

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"Harvard" is in Cambridge, jerk. Unless you mean the medical school or part of the law school. And you think Boston had one place for art??? And that it's gone or something? Try the MFA and the Gardner, within blocks of each other, and the new home of the ICA, for starters. It sounds as if you spent a weekend here decades ago. (Unfortunately, you're right about one thing: the MFA is no longer free, but it's certainly still here, and expanding.)

Those were my bridges that Turner/CNN/Time-Warner appropriated to use to sell their junk. If they want to use them to make money, PAY FOR IT AND GET MY AGENT'S PERMISSION FIRST.

Boston was not scared by this. If you think it was, you're stupid enough to believe CNN, FOX, MSNBC, etc. They hyped it.


by skeptica on Fri Feb 02, 2007 at 01:11:02 AM EST
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There's no need to call me a jerk. Cambridge is technically a different city, but it's only about a fifteen minute ride away, over the Charles River on the Red Line. I think the Harvard medical school is basically in Brookline, which was part of Boston, but is now in a different county because certain powerful interests didn't want Boston to put a garbage dump there. It's only ten minutes east on the Green Line. The MFA is just a typical museum. (I think the MFA is also in Brookline.) I was talking about the (was it 'Fort Hill'?) project which was accessible to the people who are the real artists, not just to the ones who are on the inside with the hot-shots.

And you know full well how much the absurd 30+ billion dollar 'big dig' is resented by folks like me who basically have to pay for it out here in Western Massachusetts (Northampton in my case). As I said, The Turner & Whatever should be fined for some some kind of misuse of the property, and made to pay for the cleanup. The people of Boston probably were not necessarily spooked by it, but the city government should not have shut down a major part of the town, gone along with the closing of the harbor, etc. I've worked a lot in electronics, but it should not really take my background to guess that a small box with LEDs displaying goofy images is very unlikely to represent anything very sinister. I don't want to get into grisly details, but a really frightening attack is certainly not going to involve little boxes with lighted images under bridges, and some one in charge should know this. The corporate media system, of course, made it into a circus. I heard the whole thing go down on the local radio, and it was obvious in the first ten minutes that the whole thing was a farce.


by blues on Fri Feb 02, 2007 at 06:22:39 AM EST
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Anyone out there willing to describe a device or object that could under no circumstances be mistaken for an explosive device?


by admiralnaismith on Thu Feb 01, 2007 at 08:52:26 PM EST

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If you could, you would be describing the device that an actual terrorist would make.

You know, the ones that want to avoid having their bomb be noticed.


"You say the world has lost it's love I say embrace what it's made of" -Dar Williams
by Valatan on Thu Feb 01, 2007 at 10:11:37 PM EST
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ah-HAH. (3.00 / 1)

But, you see, you can always tell an actual disguised bomb by the way the background music shifts into a dark minor key when you look at it.


by admiralnaismith on Thu Feb 01, 2007 at 11:56:30 PM EST
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Re: ah-HAH. (none / 0)

Just my way to plug this.  This type of thinking is what I think should be central to picking out actual bombs, terrorists, whatever.


"You say the world has lost it's love I say embrace what it's made of" -Dar Williams
by Valatan on Fri Feb 02, 2007 at 12:20:32 AM EST
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Explosives (none / 0)

Sure. The only thing you have to look at is size. If it's really small, there just won't be enough explosive for the potential bomb to do much. I'd submit that these were small enough that they'd be (at most) traps for people who tried to take them off; they were far too small to do structural damage (barring their hypothetically being antimatter or nuclear devices, one of which has never successfully been made, and the other which simply has never been shown to be made that small). Since they appeared to have another function as well, it would be pretty unlikely that you'd get enough explosive in them to even do much harm to a person.


by Zimbel on Fri Feb 02, 2007 at 12:00:16 PM EST
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they were in philly, too (none / 0)

did you see any over-reaction there?

no. nor did you here in portland.


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by colorless green ideas on Thu Feb 01, 2007 at 09:07:40 PM EST

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This is a report from a kid in Chicago who was pulled over and interrogated because he stopped to take a picture of one of the blinking things after the Boston madness.

I swear this country is going insane.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xDa9jyEvX DE&eurl=


by jnfr on Thu Feb 01, 2007 at 09:41:53 PM EST

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We need a lot more of these pranks that stir up the Homeland Security Theater apparatus and show it for the absurd, clueless, hysterical, pointless, fake-tough, Keystone Cops routine that it really is. A while later the security apparat will tire of being manipulated and shown for fools, the media hyping these stupid pranks will have even more egg on their puzzled frowning faces. The American public will realize its leg is being pulled and the only way to quit being played is to just get a friggin clue, take a deep breath and RELAX.


by billybob on Thu Feb 01, 2007 at 10:55:03 PM EST

Don't Be Fooled - It's A Diversion! (none / 0)

While the Boston Police spent hours scouring the city for blinky lights, the REAL bombs were being placed in more inconspicuous receptacles, all over the city. Dunkin' Donuts cups - they're everywhere and they're dangerous!
by JonesingforaDem on Thu Feb 01, 2007 at 11:07:35 PM EST

We haave become a nation of cowards (none / 0)

Let's face it. The terrorists have won. We got ridiculous liquid carry on laws at airports where citizens surrender to this lack of commnon sense obediently like sheep. I don't want to live like people in Israel or Iraq where one must fear constant threats. That is not living.

We got people owho want to enjoy a ballgame forced to go through searches just because there is a TINY chance some NFL game gets bombed. There is just as much of a chance of these people dying from an accident.

And now this. THough I gotta admit, why didn't the people at the Cartoon Network notify CNN right away? Why the delay once it was obvious Boston was overreacting?


by Pravin on Thu Feb 01, 2007 at 11:50:43 PM EST

Re: We haave become a nation of cowards (none / 0)

Worse: According to e-mails (obtained by the Boston Globe, I believe), after the first devices were found the marketing company actually directed the perpetrators NOT to tell the authorities what they actually were.


by skeptica on Fri Feb 02, 2007 at 01:16:47 AM EST
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Re: We haave become a nation of cowards (none / 0)

OK, if that's true, then the marketing company people should get their asses kicked. I don't mind when the cops make fools of themselves. But if you see a lot of energy wasted on it, just say something.


by Pravin on Fri Feb 02, 2007 at 02:10:54 AM EST
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Free republic reaction (none / 0)

I never thought I woud see the day when liberals and right wingers would agree on something. I just looked at a thread over there and some of them actually think the Boston cops fucked up too. Of course, they have a higher percentage of cowards who think these two irreverant guys deserve jail. But all in all, there is some tiny hope for some of them.

These two guys remind me of the time on the shortlived COmedy Cental show CROSSBALLS, MAtt Besser has the following exchange with some uptight woman
Woman: YOU ARE A JEOPARDY TO SOCIETY!
MATT: Well, you are a WHEEL OF FORTUNE to society.


by Pravin on Fri Feb 02, 2007 at 12:01:12 AM EST

Re: Free The Aqua Teen Hunger Force Two (none / 0)

Boston's police, Mayor and the state's governor are morons, plain and simple. Plenty of other cities didn't run around crying like babies, and screwing up as bad as they did. Watch- in the future,when a real terror threat hits, they'll fail to respond.

I laugh at Boston's bozo leaders. I feel really sorry for the people of Boston - they're good people and deserve much better!!!!


by Schadelmann on Fri Feb 02, 2007 at 12:36:37 AM EST

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We have a great new governor, Deval Patric. But obviously, at some level, this thing spooked some fool. It's stupid, and we in Western Massachusetts are not all that fond of the place anyhow. So the hell with them.


by blues on Fri Feb 02, 2007 at 10:22:01 AM EST
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all I have to say can be summed up in this image.. (none / 0)


thankee!

-C.


by neutron on Fri Feb 02, 2007 at 03:31:22 AM EST


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