NH Concord Monitor Endorses Hillary Clinton

In an impressive editorial, New Hampshire's Concord Monitor has endorsed Hillary Clinton in the January 8th primary.

The opening grafs stand out:

Immediately after taking office, President Hillary Clinton would begin preparations to withdraw American troops from Iraq.

She would send a message to world leaders that the United States intends to rejoin the community of nations.

She would make clear to federal employees that they must heed the Constitution.

She would reverse Bush-era policies that have harmed the environment.

She would quickly sign legislation supporting stem-cell research and expanding children's health insurance.

She would lift the gag rule prohibiting international family planning programs from counseling poor women about abortion.

Many White House administrations start off slowly, as green presidents fumble through their early months, unsure how to bend Washington to their will. Come 2009, America will be unable to afford such squandered time.

Clinton's ambitious to-do list for her first few weeks in office gives us confidence that her priorities are right and that she would act swiftly to make a positive difference. She is the Monitor's choice in the Jan. 8 Democratic primary.

Thoughts on the impact, if any, of this endorsement...



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Re: NH Concord Monitor Endorses Hillary Clinton (none / 0)

Out of curiosity. What was the Concord Monitor's stance leading up to the Iraq war. This is not a loaded question as I do not know the answer.


by waldo on Sun Dec 30, 2007 at 03:34:40 AM EST

Re: NH Concord Monitor Endorses Hillary Clinton (2.00 / 1)

Patrick Murphy, the only Iraq vet in Congress, supports Obama. I put more stock in his endorsement. Let's hear from the people who put their lives on the line as we speak. Unfortunately, we cannot know how the dead would vote.


Dare to be free.
by misscee on Sun Dec 30, 2007 at 09:43:40 AM EST
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Re: NH Concord Monitor Endorses Hillary Clinton (2.00 / 1)

I don't believe the first statement is factual in any way.

Number three likewise; she hasn't said she would do that.


by Pericles on Sun Dec 30, 2007 at 04:07:26 AM EST

Re: NH Concord Monitor Endorses Hillary Clinton (2.00 / 1)

From the Clinton for President website:
The most important part of Hillary's plan is the first: to end our military engagement in Iraq's civil war and immediately start bringing our troops home. As president, one of Hillary's first official actions would be to convene the Joint Chiefs of Staff, her Secretary of Defense, and her National Security Council. She would direct them to draw up a clear, viable plan to bring our troops home starting with the first 60 days of her Administration.

And you might also look at the "Comprehensive Government Reform" section under issues regarding #3.

I'm not a Clinton supporter, but I do know how to do some basic research.


"If you don't care about everybody, you don't care about anybody." --Ethan Mordden
by prodigal on Sun Dec 30, 2007 at 06:50:35 AM EST
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Re: NH Concord Monitor Endorses Hillary Clinton (1.50 / 2)

Her latest position as of what, 10 minutes ago? The propaganda from the status quo is flowing freely.
by dkmich on Sun Dec 30, 2007 at 08:41:00 AM EST
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Re: NH Concord Monitor Endorses Hillary Clinton (1.66 / 3)

I'm waiting with bated breath for her next campaign slogan.


Dare to be free.
by misscee on Sun Dec 30, 2007 at 09:37:53 AM EST
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If this isn't funny, I don't know what is. We both just got down rated for being rude to Hillary by somebody with a user name of "World Dictator". I think that's a stitch, don't you?
by dkmich on Sun Dec 30, 2007 at 06:12:16 PM EST
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Re: NH Concord Monitor Endorses Hillary Clinton (none / 0)

rotflmao  

well at least we have at least one thing in common ...


Dare to be free.
by misscee on Tue Jan 01, 2008 at 09:56:26 PM EST
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Re: NH Concord Monitor Endorses Hillary Clinton (2.00 / 1)

I don't see how that to-do list makes her any different than any of the other five contendors. They've all got those same goals.


Ever heard of a Blue Moose Democrat?
by Nathan Empsall on Sun Dec 30, 2007 at 04:17:54 AM EST

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In my view the gist of the editorial is that she'd get the ball rolling on bread and butter Democratic  issues day one, not needing to spend extra time getting acclimated to the role.


While I could sit in church and pray all I want, I wouldn't be fulfilling God's will unless I went out and did the Lord's work ~ Barack Obama
by bowiegeek on Sun Dec 30, 2007 at 05:30:42 AM EST
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Re: NH Concord Monitor Endorses Hillary Clinton (2.00 / 1)

That may be their reason for supporting her, but to the extent that items on that list can be accomplished by executive orders and a new crop of political appointees, any of the leading Dems would be nearly as quick as Hillary would be.

Any changes requiring legislation will still face the same obstacle of 41+ GOP Senators blocking cloture on the new President's entire legislative agenda, regardless of which Democrat wins.

And while Hillary may seek to "immediately start bringing our troops home" from Iraq, as prodigal points out above, so would the others.  The difference lies in how quickly the various Democrats would get all or almost all of our troops out of Iraq.

I still think the best question to ask the candidates of both parties on Iraq is, "if you become President, and things in Iraq continue as they are, how many troops do you expect to have there in June 2010?"  While I don't think any of the major contenders have answered it, Hillary's got to be considered the Dem most likely to still have upwards of 50,000 troops there then.

And I still think the best question to ask the Dem contenders in general is, "what would you, together with the Senate Majority Leader, plan to do about 41 or more GOP Senators blocking cloture on your entire legislative agenda?"  

Their agendas are fairly similar; the key question is how they plan to deal with the obvious roadblock.


by RT on Sun Dec 30, 2007 at 09:51:12 AM EST
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Well, obviously that assumes that she hasn't had the ability to reach across the aisle and form unlikely political alliances. In fact, she has done so on numerous occasions and has earned the respect of countless Republican senators. Yes, she will start to bring the troops home. You can't bring them all home without starting. And while she has noted that she's not for a complete precipitous withdrawal, I would not that nearly none of the Democrats with a chance of winning are either.


While I could sit in church and pray all I want, I wouldn't be fulfilling God's will unless I went out and did the Lord's work ~ Barack Obama
by bowiegeek on Sun Dec 30, 2007 at 02:24:07 PM EST
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Re: NH Concord Monitor Endorses Hillary Clinton (2.00 / 1)

this i her only - and i mean ONLY - selling point.

not.  good.  enough.


McCain is defining Obama, and Obama is neither defining himself, nor McCain. This is awful.
by jgarcia on Sun Dec 30, 2007 at 01:47:03 PM EST
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Re: NH Concord Monitor Endorses Hillary Clinton (none / 0)

What happened to you? You're so bitter.


While I could sit in church and pray all I want, I wouldn't be fulfilling God's will unless I went out and did the Lord's work ~ Barack Obama
by bowiegeek on Sun Dec 30, 2007 at 02:27:37 PM EST
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Re: NH Concord Monitor Endorses Hillary Clinton (2.00 / 1)

Two words:  Mark Penn

Oh, and that neocon foreign policy adviser of hers named Feinstein.  He is a neocon thru and thru.

Not THAT bitter, lol.  I'll work my balls off for her should she win the nom.


McCain is defining Obama, and Obama is neither defining himself, nor McCain. This is awful.
by jgarcia on Sun Dec 30, 2007 at 05:50:20 PM EST
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I could take or leave Diane Feinstein, but I don't see what specific influence that you see she has on Hillary Clinton. If anything, I think it's pretty apparent that HRC has a mind of her own.

Meanwhile, I've heard the charges played against Mark Penn as a CEO and yes, unfortunately, that's the role management plays in any labor dispute. I'm not so much of an ideologue that I hold it against anyone for doing his job. But his job now is to crunch numbers for Hillary and that's what he does. Is there anything else I'm missing?


While I could sit in church and pray all I want, I wouldn't be fulfilling God's will unless I went out and did the Lord's work ~ Barack Obama
by bowiegeek on Sun Dec 30, 2007 at 06:34:34 PM EST
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Lee Feinstein.  A man.  He's a neocon supposed expert on Iraq.  ONe of AIPAC's faves.


McCain is defining Obama, and Obama is neither defining himself, nor McCain. This is awful.
by jgarcia on Sun Dec 30, 2007 at 11:16:55 PM EST
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What specifically do you disagree with Hillary Clinton about what the future stance of our military in Iraq?


While I could sit in church and pray all I want, I wouldn't be fulfilling God's will unless I went out and did the Lord's work ~ Barack Obama
by bowiegeek on Mon Dec 31, 2007 at 12:07:25 AM EST
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he is her CHIEF POLICY adviser.  He's also her pollster.  Read his "book" microtrends.  He over-interprets data and then gives his opinion which, many people ca attest, Hillary takes as gospel.  Penn is behind her now-defunct plan for a flag burning amendment AND her violent video game thing.  He's a champion of the "little initiaves" and thinks that huge proposals are the bane of politicians.

In Bill's admin, he was the guy behind the time-wasting measures of school uniforms and the illustrious V-chip idea.  I dn't care much about these penny ante issues whatever, but any "change" president would try and do something bigger for the good of the country.  That's my problem with Hill.  Not that she'd be BAD, but that she'd accomplish little because she's not a big idea person.


McCain is defining Obama, and Obama is neither defining himself, nor McCain. This is awful.
by jgarcia on Sun Dec 30, 2007 at 11:20:45 PM EST
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I actually do want to read Microtrends. And I support her violent video game effort which has been mistakenly cast as something similar to what states have done in the past which have been struck down as unconstitutional, but is neither: she simply pointed out that video game producers should be held to the standards they already voluntarily hold themselves to via the ESRB ratings system.


While I could sit in church and pray all I want, I wouldn't be fulfilling God's will unless I went out and did the Lord's work ~ Barack Obama
by bowiegeek on Mon Dec 31, 2007 at 12:06:41 AM EST
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Re: NH Concord Monitor Endorses Hillary Clinton (2.00 / 1)

I agree with TT, I think it reads like an endorsement for the Democratic field -- why we need to elect a Dem instead of a Republican as President in the general. It doesn't make for a compelling case on why Clinton vs. anyone else.

Yes, it may somehow be trying to tie together experience and change, but it is the need for change that comes through far louder.


Visit West Virginia Blue
by WVaBlue on Sun Dec 30, 2007 at 08:26:44 AM EST
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Then why didnt they endorse someone else (none / 0)

The Monitor endorsed her because it thinks she is best able to accomplish these broad democratic goals. Spare us the sour grapes for what is a stellar endorsement from the leading liberal party in the state. They like me are more interested in substance than rhetoric about "change" which is largely hollow.  


by ottovbvs on Sun Dec 30, 2007 at 09:00:33 AM EST
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Re: Then why didnt they endorse someone else (none / 0)

You couldn't be more right. The Hillary haters are NASTY bunch of granola eaters.


by JFK464 on Sun Dec 30, 2007 at 09:27:13 AM EST
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Re: Then why didnt they endorse someone else (2.00 / 2)

another hillary troll hijacking a thread. I will give you credit for coming up with a new one.

What do you eat? I'm sure you proud of the fine big agribusinesses that you support. Have a nice day.


Dare to be free.
by misscee on Sun Dec 30, 2007 at 09:35:00 AM EST
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Re: Then why didnt they endorse someone else (none / 0)

I guess they're saying that Hillary is the best of a good lot and she's probably the strongest candiate in November.
Thqt'ssupposed to be the point isn't it?
Hlary may be your strongest candidate, whether the Blog Birch Society likes it or not.
by spirowasright on Sun Dec 30, 2007 at 01:45:50 PM EST
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Re: Then why didnt they endorse someone else (2.00 / 1)

Give me an break -- there's no sour grapes here -- I really don't give a rat's $ss who the paper endorses. I'll be strongly supporting whoever the Dem candidate is. I'm trying to stay as open minded during the primaries as possible so I can whole-heartedly support our eventual nominee.

I live in a state where our May primary is irrelevant and I've decided to focus on down ballot races where I can have more influence. And, really, any of these Dems are far, far better than any Repub.

I was honestly answering the question as to what I think of the endorsement editorial. It does nothing to convince me that the endorsed candidate (in this case, Clinton) has special qualities compared to other candidates, therefore I disagree with your characterization that it is a "stellar" endorsement. It may be "stellar" news for the campaign that Clinton snagged the endorsement, but the editorial itself is mostly about what a Dem president will do, not about what is unique in Clinton.

Really, some folks would do well to take a break from the primary battles. When people assume that everyone else is as invested in some candidate as they are, they reflect negatively on their candidate.


Visit West Virginia Blue
by WVaBlue on Sun Dec 30, 2007 at 10:51:30 AM EST
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If you think speed matters (2.00 / 1)

I think the point about Clinton is that she can immediately begin to fix things - that her strength is knowing how government works so that she not only knows which levers to pull, she can do so immediately.  

To some people that may not be important, but as someone who works in the federal government, it's one of my main reasons for supporting her.  Bush has broken the government at pretty much every level.  A lot of it has been holding together, but the damage continues to spread as years of mismanagement and hostility to civil service employees is bound to do.  

During a transition between administrations there is usually a lot of down time.  Some of that is beyond the next president's control - appointees of the current president leave before the end of the administration and it takes the Senate some time to appoint the next team.  But most new presidents in recent years have struggled to fill positions quickly and efficiently.  Normally, that's no big deal, the civil service folks keep it together until it gets done.

I honestly don't think we're up to it this time.  People outside the government have no idea the damage to basic government function that has been wrought by this administration.  One of the reasons why I support Clinton, frankly, is my belief that she knows exactly how the executive is supposed to work and can begin to manage and work it from day one.  

It may seem like a small thing, but none of the policies matter if the government that is supposed to implement them isn't working.  Or think of it another way - in the absence of leadership from the White House, which is distracted trying to get up and running, how much damage do you think all those Monica Goodling career hires can do at the Justice Dept?  Now amplify that across government.

One thing that will be interesting is how the next President tries to manage and control all the Bushie plants in the career ranks.  The amount of expertise from economists at Treasury to prosecutors at Justice to scientists at the FDA that has been driven out of government and replaced with their friends is stunning (and, no, not everyone does it, no one has ever done it on this scale).  You can bet there will be direct lines from almost every department to their favorite conservative Congressman.  

I wouldn't want to be president on a good day, this time we're really going to be taking over a disaster.

One more thing - I understand that for some people their policy differences with Clinton or concerns about her electability outweigh whatever management strength she might have.  Totally understandable.   All I'm saying is that if you think the policies are all basically the same, the reasoning in the editorial is a solid way to differentiate the candidates.


by BDB on Sun Dec 30, 2007 at 11:04:07 AM EST
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BDB -- Well said (none / 0)

Thank you for your thoughtful and articulate comment. You raise significant issues that the next Democratic administration will indeed have to deal with.

One of the reasons that my estimation of Clinton has improved since she become a Senator is from listening to her in Senate hearings. I've been impressed with the questions she asks. I hope you are correct that, if president, she will be able bring special expertise to the difficult task of leading the executive branch.


Visit West Virginia Blue
by WVaBlue on Sun Dec 30, 2007 at 12:53:11 PM EST
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But if you accept their point that change comes with experience making it, then you can't reasonably posit that change trumps experience. That is: if experience making change, then change.


While I could sit in church and pray all I want, I wouldn't be fulfilling God's will unless I went out and did the Lord's work ~ Barack Obama
by bowiegeek on Sun Dec 30, 2007 at 02:26:47 PM EST
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Re: NH Concord Monitor Endorses Hillary Clinton (2.00 / 1)

Oh well, I'm not a Hillary hater, but the lack of grassroots energy behind her is palpable.  

I hope I eat my words, but Hillary is a technocrat like Kerry and will probably run a similar campaign.  We're on the highway to a McCain administration now...


by tneeld on Sun Dec 30, 2007 at 09:36:29 AM EST

Obama's Presidential To-Do List (2.00 / 4)

1.  Vote present.

2.  Make a speech proclaiming how audacious your "present vote" really is!


by BigBoyBlue on Sun Dec 30, 2007 at 09:50:06 AM EST

Re: Obama's Presidential To-Do List (none / 0)

I like your post.


by del on Sun Dec 30, 2007 at 12:08:51 PM EST
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Re: NH Concord Monitor Endorses Hillary Clinton (2.00 / 1)

I think that, like all endorsements, it will help her a small bit with some good media coverage, but won't make or break her chances at the nomination.


by Kal on Sun Dec 30, 2007 at 09:50:29 AM EST

Re: NH Concord Monitor (2.00 / 1)

The editorial is, at once, as cogent and compelling a case for Senator Clinton as was that of the Des Moines Register.

Occasionally, at least, the print media breaks with the broadcast media, almost all of whom have hated the Clintons for fifteen years.

Next week will reveal the extent to which that Clinton-hating media has been able to effect results in either Iowa or New Hampshire, or both.

The national numbers, to this very day, are quite clear--core Democrats support the Clintons (ever and always a tandem) and haven't wavered all year.

Were the traditional (not "cross-over" or "indie leaning") states in the mix now, rather than largely represented on February 5, of course Senator Clinton would already have the nomination sewed up.

The MSM (and much of their fellow Clinton-hating blogosphere) know that fact only too well.

Again, one has only to examine dispassionately the dynamics of the race from January through December of 2007.  

Iowa inaugurated the year trending Edwards; quickly became a wash, and ends the year a wash.

New Hampshire inauguated the year with several traded leads, trended Senator Clinton, and ends the year, despite all the indies and Republicans trending toward Senator Obama, with core Democrats there still firmly supporting Senator Clinton.

And the national race has changed little if at all--Senator Clinton by averages to the moment, nearly twenty points ahead of her competition.

For the MSM and blogosphere, the race is all about Iowa and New Hampshire--with the prayer that the dynamic changes afterwards.

For them, that establishes the precedent.  But they all ignore the obvious fact that this year is unprecedented--the three top-tier candidates are extremely well known nationally.

I believe that this year represents the last hurrah for Iowa and New Hampshire.  

They either follow the prescient leads of the two key newspaper endorsements of Senator Clinton, and follow the national bedrock core Democratic support of Senator Clinton, or become permanently irrelevant.

The dynamics, despite all the Clinton-hating invective from the broadcast media and much of the blogosphere, are simply not going to change.

We who are core Democrats, inveterate and proud, are not going to endorse a three-year Senate novice as our standard-bearer.  

And whatever former Senator Edwards accomplishes or does not in Iowa hardly puts him on the institutional footing that the Clintons have within the Democratic Party.

That is simply the way it is.  And although Messrs. Russert/Matthews/Williams and fellow talking-heads and blogosphere anti-Clinton rhetoricians would have it otherwise, their orgasms for Senator Obama and former Senator Edwards can only take their candidates so far.


by lambros on Sun Dec 30, 2007 at 10:14:09 AM EST

Seems About Right To Me (2.00 / 1)

I don't think the list is any different than what any of the leading Democratic candidates would do.

But I do think there's likely to be less lag time getting started on it with Clinton than the others simply because she's been through the process of setting up a government before and is likely to be ready with a team much earlier and to know immediately how to move the ball (she's specifically said that's one of the things she's learned).  It's a small difference, but could be an important one.  Every day the next president dawdles, the conservatives build strength against him.  Clinton learned that from the last time, too.

I think each candidate has his or her own strengths and weaknesses, but if you're going to choose Clinton, then this seems like the right argument to be making for why.  It's where her experience will probably make a difference.  

But, yeah, in the end, it's an endorsement for Democratic priorities and that's a good thing, IMO.  People need to be constantly reminded of what's at stake.


by BDB on Sun Dec 30, 2007 at 10:46:03 AM EST

Re: NH Concord Monitor Endorses Hillary Clinton (none / 0)

Immediately after taking office, President Hillary Clinton would begin preparations to withdraw American troops from Iraq.

So, immediately after taking office Hillary "would begin preparations" to get us out of Iraq?  Note that it doesn't say she would immediately withdraw troops from Iraq.  It says she would "begin preparations".

Sounds wonderful...  


by Will Graham on Sun Dec 30, 2007 at 11:16:17 AM EST

Re: NH Concord Monitor Endorses Hillary Clinton (none / 0)

A great endorsement. It's not going to make or break anything, but every little thing might count with things as close as they are.


by Christopher Lib on Sun Dec 30, 2007 at 12:46:14 PM EST

Re: NH Concord Monitor Endorses Hillary Clinton (2.00 / 1)

Keep in mind that the Monitor also endorsed McCain, the child of Ronald Reagan. To me this would suggest that the Monitor is probably rightward leaning, since the difference here is between a Republican and a Republican Lite. The Monitor just did not endorse any Democratic candidate.

This morning's Monitor editorial endorsed John McCain in New Hampshire's Republican primary. It concludes:

   Earlier in the campaign, when McCain was being counted out, a consultant might have urged a makeover: Lose the moral compass on torture and immigration, ditch the vision for a turnaround in Iraq.

   Not a chance. John McCain held on to his principles and defended them with dignity. New Hampshire residents who vote in the Republican primary should reward that integrity with their votes.


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by shergald on Sun Dec 30, 2007 at 01:05:46 PM EST

HA!HA!HA!HA!HA!HA!HA!HA!HA!HA!HA!HA!HA!HA! (2.00 / 1)

Hillary Clinton won't do any of those things. Many liberals will be disappointed after Clinton locks up the nomination and tacks back to the right by bashing the teacher's union (blocking necessary reform), condemns some rapper or BET (for coarsening the culture), and follows Democracy Corps and "addresses the illegal immigration crises."
by drtalc on Sun Dec 30, 2007 at 01:14:32 PM EST


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