Research 2000: Iowa a 3-Way Tie, Obama Has Peaked

It's a tale not unfamiliar to Iowa poll-watchers: the latest Research 2000 poll (500 LVs, 12/26-27, MOE 4.5%) confirms that among the top Democrats (I leave out the other candidates, all of whom are polling in single digits with no upward movement whatsoever,) Iowa is a three-way tie. But look at the trendlines (pdf of prior poll is HERE,) you see some signs that the race is anything but static.

Dec. 26-27Dec. 10-13RCP 6-poll Ave.
Obama293326
Edwards292425.2
Clinton282430.66

In 2 weeks, Clinton has risen 4 points, Edwards has risen 5 and Obama has dropped 4. Looking at the last few polls out of Iowa, it's hard not to conclude that Obama has peaked and that Clinton is regaining her strength in the state, but this is the first poll that really shows evidence of Edwards closing strong as many of us have expected (and Bill Clinton has made a point of warning) he would do.

I'll update with more analysis when the internals become available.



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I just posted on why I think it is Edwards/Clinton (2.00 / 1)

http://www.mydd.com/comments/2007/12/28/ 134319/83/2#2

I made this prediction over a week ago, and since the Edwards baby daddy story never gained any traction I will stick by it.  

Edwards is moving up and so is Clinton.  It is a two person race and that is why Obama has looked so skiddish over the last two weeks.  He knows it.


by dpANDREWS on Fri Dec 28, 2007 at 02:14:07 PM EST

You nailed it, dp! (2.00 / 1)

Both Hillary and Edwards are moving up, and Obama is clearly fading fast. Now it will all depend on how high turnout will be next week. If turnout is super-low, Edwards may pull a surprise win. But if turnout is OK or a little higher than 2004, Hillary can pull a victory.

And in either scenario, Obama will be lucky if he even gets 2nd.


We shall overcome!
by atdleft on Fri Dec 28, 2007 at 02:20:35 PM EST
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Extended weather forecast looks good. (2.00 / 1)

Clear skys, only a small chance of any precip.  Cold temps, but not anything out of the ordinary for an Iowa winter.  Low in the teens, high in the low 30s.

Good weather should be good news for turnout.


by dpANDREWS on Fri Dec 28, 2007 at 02:29:51 PM EST
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Iowa a 3-Way Tie, Obama Has Peaked (2.00 / 2)

If Edwards manages to win against these two, who have spent more than $100 Million between them, it will be huge.  In New Hampshire, the latest RCP average has Edwards at 17% and trending up.  If he gained a 10% bump, taking equally from both Clinton and Obama there, he will win New Hampshire too.

If he wins Iowa, expect the Culinary Workers to endorse him in Nevada.  From there the avalanche continues.


The sharpest criticism often goes hand in hand with the deepest idealism and love of country. ~RFK
by Vox Populi on Fri Dec 28, 2007 at 02:18:49 PM EST

If the corporate media candidates can't win... (2.00 / 2)

...despite their huge advantages in money, Edwards will surge ahead in New Hampshire. By the time South Carolina Democrats vote, their favorite son will have all of the momentum and he'll win there again.


John Edwards 2008
by MeanBoneII on Fri Dec 28, 2007 at 02:47:12 PM EST
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Re: If the corporate media candidates can't win... (none / 0)

We'll have to wait for the finance reports to come in, but I bet Clinton and Obama have spent over $20-25 Million each in Q4.


The sharpest criticism often goes hand in hand with the deepest idealism and love of country. ~RFK
by Vox Populi on Fri Dec 28, 2007 at 03:10:45 PM EST
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Re: Research 2000: Iowa a 3-Way Tie, Obama Has Pea (none / 0)

Desmoinedems whom I agree with on Iowa most of the time seems to be disregarding Obama's slipping in iowa.

if i am wrong i hope she corrects me.

THe dmr register endorsement was important for her because it helped crystallize the terms of her candidacy better than she has been doing.

Her movement is real and obama slipping a bit is also real . This has really little to do with the whole blumenthal theory . I think she is missing the train on this one.

All through the year I have felt she would come in third , edwards 1st , obama 2nd but i have grown more confident after the dmr register endorsement and the way she has refocused in iowa , hitting the rural areas etc . I am not yet at the point where i would say she would win but it is conceiveable. I saw a couple of the internals of these iowa polls and it seems she has had an uptick in second choice votes , this is where i think the dmr endorsement helped her or would help her


Educated in a small town Taught to fear Jesus in a small town Used to daydream in that small town Another born romantic that's me.
by lori on Fri Dec 28, 2007 at 02:20:52 PM EST

Re: Research 2000: Iowa a 3-Way Tie, Obama Has Pea (none / 0)

She's really fortunate that she got that endorsement, but was it too early this year?

The media has been very friendly for Hillary in the past couple of weeks, framing her as the "comeback kid," and now after the tragedy in Pakistan, as well. Matthews was actually praising her last night. CNN of course has always been pushing for her candidacy.

I do think the momentum in Iowa is starting to move to Edwards though, based on his large crowds.

Obama is definitely not doing well, with his increasing attacks and strange comments.


by Progressive America on Fri Dec 28, 2007 at 02:31:51 PM EST
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Re: Research 2000: Iowa a 3-Way Tie, Obama Has Pea (none / 0)

Matthews was actually praising her last night.

- Really lol . That would have been very tough for him to do.

The media has been very friendly for Hillary in the past couple of weeks

- That actually is not based in reality . All I have heard up till yesterday was how her campaign was floundering and how she couldn't stay on message , Chris Matthews actually said God gave Obama to the US as a gift to the world just 2 days ago and that Americans hated Hillary's voice that is why she didn't use it in her ad about the " stakes " that is coming just after 2 days making a whole ad speaking with her voice only wishing the troops happy holidays.

However I think you are right in terms of Edwards gaining the upper hand in the anti clinton argument thats why Obama is pushing back .

This whole Pakistan thing could possibly do damage to Obama because I suspect out of the three candidates his support in Iowa is probably the ones that can switch. I can picture the small % of seniors he has garner might drop and some % of women who were with Hillary Clinton and moved to Obama could conceiveably move back to Hillary Clinton in the closing days.

Watch the last dmr poll , I suspect the order would be,

Hillary Clinton in the lead , Edwards second , Obama third .

I am not saying on caucus night that would be the order because no one can be certain of the outcome but I just think that is what the last poll would show.


Educated in a small town Taught to fear Jesus in a small town Used to daydream in that small town Another born romantic that's me.
by lori on Fri Dec 28, 2007 at 02:45:35 PM EST
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Re: Research 2000: Iowa a 3-Way Tie, Obama Has Pea (2.00 / 5)

I don't think it hurt Hillary when they showed Bill going around on his own and also some of the comments he made. One of the polls showed him being the most popular figure in Iowa, above all our current candidates, so if anything the campaign would want this stuff out there.

They played that "rolling the dice" thing and the grocery store stuff many times on the news and aired several of Hillary's campaign speeches. Really they seemed to be setting this up for a Hillary comeback story. I wish the Edwards campaign could get that kind of exposure.


by Progressive America on Fri Dec 28, 2007 at 03:01:57 PM EST
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Re: Research 2000: Iowa a 3-Way Tie, Obama Has Pea (none / 0)

Hey, that's wrongful use of troll-rating. What did I say?


by Progressive America on Fri Dec 28, 2007 at 03:43:59 PM EST
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Re: Research 2000: Iowa a 3-Way Tie, Obama Has Pea (2.00 / 1)

Hillary and Edwards are the only 2 candidates that would lose a general election race.  If Iowa picks one of those as their first choice, Iowa will once again LOSE the presidency for the democrats in 2008 just like they lost it when they chose Kerry & Gore.    Biden and Obama are the only 2 democrats that could actually win a general election race in 2008.


by allmiview on Fri Dec 28, 2007 at 02:52:13 PM EST

Re: Research 2000: Iowa a 3-Way Tie, Obama Has Pea (2.00 / 1)

Why? What makes Obama so electable?


Restore America's Strength.
by RJEvans on Fri Dec 28, 2007 at 03:08:24 PM EST
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Re: Research 2000: Iowa a 3-Way Tie, Obama Has Pea (2.00 / 1)

This is so much fun. It feels good when things are turning out the way you expected them to.

I stand by my word that this will be a Clinton vs. Edwards race in Iowa and I think Edwards will nudge Clinton out of the top stop. In NH Clinton will win as all the Independents will flock to the Republican race having seen Obama pretty much underperformed.

As a side note, for the Republican race, McCain will come in third in Iowa and win NH. I think he will be the nominee and go up against either Clinton or Edwards.


Restore America's Strength.
by RJEvans on Fri Dec 28, 2007 at 03:06:41 PM EST

Re: Research 2000: Iowa a 3-Way Tie (none / 0)

Since we are all making predictions- here's mine--
Edwards 35,

Clinton or Obama 25 to 23

I am making up numbers to make a larger point. Obama and Clinton will be a close second or third but I think Edwards will do extremely well. The only real issue to me at this point is the post narrative battle for NH.


by bruh21 on Fri Dec 28, 2007 at 04:05:11 PM EST

What? (none / 0)

It is incredibly dishonest of you to claim that Obama has peaked on the basis of exactly two polls, especially since the RCP 6-poll average -- which you put right next to those numbers -- completely contradicts that claim!

If you follow the RCP link you gave and look at how each of the candidates is doing, you'll notice that both Edwards and Obama are rising, while Clinton is the one who's falling.

Furthermore, following that RCP link, a new Strategic Vision poll shows Obama at 30, Clinton at 29, and Edwards at 28.

So the poll you mention here and the recent Strategic Vision poll have Obama and Edwards rising, and Clinton falling.

I don't know how you got those 6-poll average numbers, since they don't add up (perhaps they're trendline averages?), but at any rate, the RCP average is now Clinton 29.3 (30.66) - Obama 27.0 (26) - Edwards 27.3 (25.3) -- again, who's the one falling here?

Given that Obama and Edwards are neck and neck while Clinton is slightly ahead but slightly dropping, I think the results are going to hinge on the turnout on Jan 3 more than anything else, as has already been suggested.


by Nautilator on Fri Dec 28, 2007 at 04:06:20 PM EST

The ARG poll throws everything out of whack (none / 0)

Throw that out and things are a different story.


by Fro on Fri Dec 28, 2007 at 05:58:53 PM EST
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Re: What? (none / 0)

For one thing, individual polls are relatively inaccurate, you have to look at the trendline to get a better idea of what all the polls are really saying.

For another thing, why was the RCP average included -- again, RIGHT NEXT TO THE POLL NUMBERS -- in the original post if it's so unimportant.


by Nautilator on Sat Dec 29, 2007 at 06:02:20 PM EST
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Iowa (none / 0)

Of course, the more I see comments like this ("My Candidate will win Iowa by a couple of points, therefore My Candidate is going to win the entire country now!"), the happier I'll be when Iowa's (and New Hampshire's) stranglehold on politic is broken.


by Nautilator on Fri Dec 28, 2007 at 04:14:23 PM EST

Re: Iowa (none / 0)

replacing one first in the nation with another will not change politics. it simply will change which bandwagon later voters jump onto . this isn't about which goes first. it's about the american voter. that's the problem with all this bluster over ia and nh. the truth is it wouldn't matter if voters didn't let it.


by bruh21 on Fri Dec 28, 2007 at 04:33:45 PM EST
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Re: Research 2000: Iowa a 3-Way Tie, Obama Has Pea (none / 0)

Folks, calm down. Obama's base in Iowa is the better educated and wealthier liberals who are more likely to be on the road at Christmas (along with the students).

They will all be back on caucus night.


by aiko on Fri Dec 28, 2007 at 05:49:23 PM EST

MyDD is Hillary Country (none / 0)

Wishful thinking by the Hillary supporters at MyDD. Anytime they include that ridiculous ARG poll in their calculations, you know they're STTRREETTCCCHHHHIIIINNNGGGG. The fact of the matter is that it is tied and no one is clearly ahead of the other. It's funny to watch people from NY, CA and everywhere BUT Iowa try to tell everyone how in tune they are with the populace.


by highgrade on Fri Dec 28, 2007 at 06:01:56 PM EST


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