The Slimeball Politics of Lt. Bob Kerrey

If anyone is under any illusion that Kerrey's recent advancing of smears via feigned compliment was somehow unintentional or a matter of pro-Obama spin, Ari Melber of the Nation has an interesting piece today which shows this tactic goes back to late October, and was even worse before:


Finally, some readers defend Kerrey by noting that he raised the smears before, in an Economist interview posted on October 30. The Politico's Ben Smith cited the interview as one reason not to jump to "conclusions about the motives of the former Nebraska Senator." There are a few sentences from the interview quoted on the Economist site, here is a longer passage of Kerrey's answer, after a clip was played of Obama saying he would talk to friends and enemies of the U.S.:

Q. Fine words, But is, is--

K: Well they are fine words. Look I - I look at Barack Obama I think he does have substantial experience in areas that matter to me, personally. For example, he's addicted to nicotine. He's trying to kick the habit. You got a million adolescents every year in America who take up smoking. So he gonna be able to lead in the area. Second he's black. And you know, some black leaders are saying he's not, but he's black. And he can speak to youth in America, as he did in Selma, and tell them, that look, I'm for civil rights, I'm for more money in health and education, but if you don't work harder, if you aren't a good parent, if you choose self-destructive behavior there is nothing I can do to help you. And finally, I love that his name is Barack Hussein Obama; that he was educated for a while in a secular madrassa. I know the right wingers are saying that he's, you know, sort of an Islamic manchurian candidate, but he can speak like no other candidate to a billion Muslims on this earth and say we're not your enemy unless you make us so.


Got all that? First, "he's addicted to nicotine." "Second, he's black" -- even if people say "he's not," he really is. And "finally," some people say he is "an Islamic manchurian candidate," but Bob Kerrey thinks otherwise. If this interview is supposed to make Kerrey look better, then he's really in trouble.

http://www.thenation.com/blogs/campaignm atters/_by-amelber



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Re: The Slimeball Politics of Lt. Bob Kerrey (none / 0)

Ask the 9-11 Widows and Orphans what they think about Kerrey. Ask them how Kerrey betrayed them, threw them under the bus and did not honor his promises to them.

Kerrey is the lowest form of life in the democratic party. DLC slime that sticks to the bottom of your shoe.


Hillary Clinton is not a monster,....as far as I know.. We are all Hussein JUNIOR.. ///.. FEINGOLD/BOXER 2016
by Its Like Herding Cats on Wed Dec 19, 2007 at 07:51:35 PM EST

Yours is a famous Republican ploy (none / 0)

Mock outrage laid on thick.


by dpANDREWS on Wed Dec 19, 2007 at 08:08:21 PM EST
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Re: Yours is a famous Republican ploy (none / 0)

Ask them, see if their outrage is insincere.


Hillary Clinton is not a monster,....as far as I know.. We are all Hussein JUNIOR.. ///.. FEINGOLD/BOXER 2016
by Its Like Herding Cats on Wed Dec 19, 2007 at 08:13:59 PM EST
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Re: The Slimeball Politics of Lt. Bob Kerrey (none / 0)

true enough. in the documentary "9/11: press for truth" (which focused on news reporting of the event that tv overlooked and interviews with 9/11 family members) one of the jersey 4 widows said the commission only answered 30% of the issues they raised.


I really don't understand how that is an attack; lol. ~ by Jerome Armstrong
by jello on Thu Dec 20, 2007 at 06:24:09 AM EST
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Re: The Slimeball Politics of Lt. Bob Kerrey (none / 0)

Smears? Obama's PARENTS named him Hussein, not Kerrey. Obama and his partisans are the biggest bunch of p*ssies in the party.

And anybody who wants to slander Kerrey or say he betrayed anybody ought to cut off a leg first. Otherwise you don't have the right.


"What do Barack Obama and David Koresh have in common? Too god damn much."
by ThinkingDem on Wed Dec 19, 2007 at 07:54:42 PM EST

Re: The Slimeball Politics of Lt. Bob Kerrey (none / 0)

Do not insult us all by pretending that both Kerrey and his patron are not pushing "Hussein" as a
hot-button code word, to reinforce negative stereotypes re Obama's background and beliefs.


by horizonr on Thu Dec 20, 2007 at 01:14:48 AM EST
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Lesson 1: A compliment is not a smear (none / 0)

We've been through this before.


by dpANDREWS on Wed Dec 19, 2007 at 07:56:55 PM EST

Of course it's not, and..... (none / 0)

Let me be the first to compliment you on not being a partisan hack, with a naive point of view!

You mean like that?


Hillary Clinton is not a monster,....as far as I know.. We are all Hussein JUNIOR.. ///.. FEINGOLD/BOXER 2016
by Its Like Herding Cats on Wed Dec 19, 2007 at 08:00:35 PM EST
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Whatev (none / 0)

Obama himself has touted his time in Indonesia and his complex background.


by dpANDREWS on Wed Dec 19, 2007 at 08:06:18 PM EST
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You have to understand (none / 0)

I don't think Kerry did anything wrong.

It was so simole and so direct,and so old that it can't be devious in my mind.


by dpANDREWS on Wed Dec 19, 2007 at 08:07:37 PM EST
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Re: You have to understand (none / 0)

Lets rememebr that its Clinton that engaged in slime ball sleazy low ball politics--Kerrey is just a willing surrogate.

This whole thing lays squarely in Clinton's lap.


by aiko on Wed Dec 19, 2007 at 09:03:43 PM EST
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Re: You have to understand (none / 0)

What will thin skinned folks like you do if the Republicans ever really attack Barry Hussein Obama?


by dpANDREWS on Wed Dec 19, 2007 at 09:23:20 PM EST
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My guess is...... (none / 0)

Whine, cry and complain like the Hill supporters do.


Hillary Clinton is not a monster,....as far as I know.. We are all Hussein JUNIOR.. ///.. FEINGOLD/BOXER 2016
by Its Like Herding Cats on Wed Dec 19, 2007 at 09:34:07 PM EST
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Re: The Slimeball Politics of Lt. Bob Kerrey (none / 0)

To be honest, his words make me like Obama a little more than I did before because I'm not crazy about him but it WOULD be nice if a President was kicking the nicotine habit and helping others- they way smokers are demonized these days- he would have more compassion- and it might help in our relations with Islamic countries- he could say 'look, we're not trying to destroy you- my own grandfather was a muslim- let's work this out.'  Of course I would not suggest that as something he should promote because people are too emotional about those issues to think it through like that and it's too late to start a new tact on it all- but you know- what Kerrey says has some truth to it but it's probably not something less sophisticated people can discuss rationally.


by reasonwarrior on Wed Dec 19, 2007 at 08:48:59 PM EST

I do not consider it a smear (none / 0)

sorry, but did you expect Obama's background to stay a secret?  If not, what's the problem?  How is a man's name and family history a smear?
Obama seems to have moved on, I suggest his supporters do the same.

ABO... Anybody but Obama. I LIKE the democratic party.

by MollieBradford on Wed Dec 19, 2007 at 08:52:37 PM EST

Wait till somebody says: (none / 0)

"I really admire Hillary. She showed such grace while her husband was playing with cigars and interns in the Oval Office. During all the years that Bill was having sex outside their marriage, she was always calm and poised in public. The ability to stand by her husband while he was betraying her can be a lesson to all women who have been in the same situation."


by royce on Wed Dec 19, 2007 at 10:39:35 PM EST

Re: The Slimeball Politics of Lt. Bob Kerrey (none / 0)

Well obviously there are a bunch of rules the "he who must not be named"'s supporters have for everybody:

  1. We must not mention his middle name
  2. We must not mention he has muslim relatives
  3. We must not mention that he lived in a muslim country
  4. We must not mention that he used drugs.
  5. We must not talk about his background at all because it is seen as a negative by "he who must not be named"s supporters.

Okay, I gotcha.

Of course, these same supporters think that the GOP will be delivering flowers any day right?


No longer a Democrat, now proudly an independent voter!
by Ga6thDem on Wed Dec 19, 2007 at 10:50:07 PM EST

Give it a rest.. (none / 0)

Because the supporters of she who whines and pouts have repeatedly whine and pouted about.

1.  Mentioning her "cackle"

  1.  Mention her "carpetbagger" roots.
  2.  Mention her idolatry of Goldwater.
  3.  Mention her marriage to a philandering womanizer.
  4.  Must not mention her positions at all because it is seen as negative by the supporters of she who whines and pouts.

Fair play is a two way street.

Edwards/Obama 2008


Hillary Clinton is not a monster,....as far as I know.. We are all Hussein JUNIOR.. ///.. FEINGOLD/BOXER 2016
by Its Like Herding Cats on Wed Dec 19, 2007 at 11:43:22 PM EST
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Re: Give it a rest.. (none / 0)


1.  Mentioning her "cackle"
 Mention her "carpetbagger" roots.
 Mention her idolatry of Goldwater.
 Mention her marriage to a philandering womanizer.
 Must not mention her positions at all because it is seen as negative by the supporters of she who whines and pouts.

1. Mention her cackle all you like.  Have a good time

  1. Carpet bagger roots - if that's all you got, I think I'll take a nap.
  2. Idolatry?  I don't think so.  Support?  Yes.  I'm absolutely OK with that, considering people change as they mature.
  3. Philandering womanizer - seems redundant, but whatever.  How is that her fault, by the way?
  4. And please do mention her positions, as much as you like.  We can win that debate.

Denny Crane


No Way. No How. No McCain.
by Denny Crane on Thu Dec 20, 2007 at 01:07:30 AM EST
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could it be real.....????? (none / 0)

Is there really one reasonable, non whining Clinton supporter on this board?  

Congratulations Denny Crane, you may have missed the point, but you didn't whine like the others, and your reaction to my post was so devoid of the usual apoplectic rants common of most Clinton supporters on this site, that I actually respect you.  Trust me you may not be the only one, but are one of the few for sure.


Hillary Clinton is not a monster,....as far as I know.. We are all Hussein JUNIOR.. ///.. FEINGOLD/BOXER 2016
by Its Like Herding Cats on Thu Dec 20, 2007 at 03:04:25 AM EST
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Re: Give it a rest.. (none / 0)

I have no problems with talking about that stuff. It's all widely known and no big secret.


No longer a Democrat, now proudly an independent voter!
by Ga6thDem on Thu Dec 20, 2007 at 08:30:45 AM EST
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Re: The Slimeball Politics of Lt. Bob Kerrey (none / 0)

Smoking?  You actually put smoking on the list of "slimeball politics"?


"Another problem we have...is that in election years we behave somewhat as primitive peoples do at the time of the full moon." --Harry Truman
by Steve M on Wed Dec 19, 2007 at 11:10:40 PM EST

Re: The Slimeball Politics of Lt. Bob Kerrey (none / 0)

You talking to me?  If you are, you don't need to be a paranoid lunatic to hear the code words in referring to smoking as being "addicted to nicotine".  You don't need to be Thom Hartmann to crack that code.


by Piuma on Wed Dec 19, 2007 at 11:21:54 PM EST
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Re: The Slimeball Politics of Lt. Bob Kerrey (none / 0)

I think your thesis is way overboard.


"Another problem we have...is that in election years we behave somewhat as primitive peoples do at the time of the full moon." --Harry Truman
by Steve M on Wed Dec 19, 2007 at 11:25:51 PM EST
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Re: The Slimeball Politics of Lt. Bob Kerrey (none / 0)

Really.  Then why didn't you write "Addicted to Nicotine?  You actually put addicted to nicotine on the list of "slimeball politics"?" But fine, we disagree.  You obviously endorse this type of speech.


by Piuma on Wed Dec 19, 2007 at 11:35:36 PM EST
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Re: The Slimeball Politics of Lt. Bob Kerrey (2.00 / 1)

Because it means the exact same thing.  Are you actually trying to bolster my point that the Obama supporters are being completely paranoid and hypersensitive over this?  If so, you're succeeding.

I just listened to the audio of Kerrey's Economist interview (have you?) and there is no doubt in my mind he was being complimentary.  Absolutely no doubt whatsoever.

I try really, really hard to be objective on these things, and while my objectivity helps me see why so many Obama supporters are understandably paranoid about whispering campaigns at this juncture, I simply can't acknowledge those concerns as well-grounded in this instance.


"Another problem we have...is that in election years we behave somewhat as primitive peoples do at the time of the full moon." --Harry Truman
by Steve M on Wed Dec 19, 2007 at 11:56:22 PM EST
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Re: The Slimeball Politics of Lt. Bob Kerrey (none / 0)

When was Kerrey promoted to sainthood and become above reproach? Your insistance on giving him all benefit of every doubt has become a joke.

Kerrey's take on Obama was and still is a obvious political stunt.


by JoeCoaster on Wed Dec 19, 2007 at 11:36:27 PM EST
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Re: The Slimeball Politics of Lt. Bob Kerrey (none / 0)

Amen to that!


Hillary Clinton is not a monster,....as far as I know.. We are all Hussein JUNIOR.. ///.. FEINGOLD/BOXER 2016
by Its Like Herding Cats on Wed Dec 19, 2007 at 11:35:17 PM EST
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When will folks admit this is a racist smear? (none / 0)

IF a Republican had been doing what Clinton is doing, folks would be up in arms. But, a Southern Strategy, is still a Southern Strategy, whether in Mississippi, Georgia, or in this case, Iowa and New Hampshire.

STILL contains the same odious racist underbelly.


by rikyrah on Wed Dec 19, 2007 at 11:18:44 PM EST

Re: When will folks admit this is a racist smear? (none / 0)

But it isn't a racist smear.  If you know anything about who Bob Kerrey is, you'd know that immediately.  He does have a tendency to let his mouth wander (just like Biden), but he's very far from being a racist.


No Way. No How. No McCain.
by Denny Crane on Thu Dec 20, 2007 at 01:14:02 AM EST
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Re: The Slimeball Politics of Lt. Bob Kerrey (none / 0)

this is some loony ass shit

man it must be WILD to be Krazy!!


Offend the Media - Vote for Hillary!
by Seymour Glass on Wed Dec 19, 2007 at 11:36:52 PM EST

Re: The Slimeball Politics of Lt. Bob Kerrey (none / 0)

There's nothing wrong with talking about the fact that he lived in a Muslim country as a child and may have learned some things there about the Islamic religion and society.

Kerrey's slime is in his inaccurate use of the word madrassa. Obama never attended a madrassa, he attended a government-run, secular, public elementary school. Only a dolt would be unaware of the negative connotations of the word madrassa in post 9/11 America.

It's OK though, the more America sees HRC trying to make political hay out of supposed "dirt" from Barack Obama's kindergarten days, the more ridiculous and desperate she looks.


by dmc2 on Wed Dec 19, 2007 at 11:37:20 PM EST

Re: The Slimeball Politics of Lt. Bob Kerrey (none / 0)

According to Ben Smith, "An Arabic-speaking colleague says you can have a secular madrassa, which is neither here nor there but seemed worth correcting."


"Another problem we have...is that in election years we behave somewhat as primitive peoples do at the time of the full moon." --Harry Truman
by Steve M on Wed Dec 19, 2007 at 11:58:19 PM EST
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Re: The Slimeball Politics of Lt. Bob Kerrey (2.00 / 1)

If you're speaking Arabic, then madrassa is simply the word for school. In that context then, of course it would be possible to have a "secular madrassa".

But Bob Kerrey was not communicating in Arabic to Arabic speaking people. He was speaking English and in English, a regular school is called a school, and an Islamic religious school is called a madrassa.

In Indonesia, there are madrassas and there are public schools. Obama attended a public school. He did not attend a madrassa.

Kerrey is either a dolt who assumed that every school in a Muslim country must be a madrassa, or he was purposely trying to associate Obama with a word loaded with negative connotations in the electorate.


by dmc2 on Thu Dec 20, 2007 at 12:11:59 AM EST
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Re: The Slimeball Politics of Lt. Bob Kerrey (none / 0)

Or maybe you and Bob Kerrey just don't have precisely identical understandings of which schools are madrassas and which schools aren't.

It's pretty clear to me at this point that no one really has an open mind so I'm just going to leave it be.


"Another problem we have...is that in election years we behave somewhat as primitive peoples do at the time of the full moon." --Harry Truman
by Steve M on Thu Dec 20, 2007 at 12:21:44 AM EST
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Re: The Slimeball Politics of Lt. Bob Kerrey (none / 0)

Kerrey issues apology to Obama...

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20071220/ap_p o/obama_kerrey


by dmc2 on Thu Dec 20, 2007 at 09:19:53 AM EST
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Look (2.00 / 2)

I'm a die-hard Obamaniac, but I'm also a Nebraska Democrat and most of us know Bob Kerrey well enough to see this for what it is: his penchant for thinking outside the box and shooting from the hip getting him in trouble again.  I don't believe there's a drop of malice in his statements, bizzare as they may seem.  Although I do think he's proving his own point when he talks about "secular maddrassas" and stuff like that: your typical American white-guy (and thus your typical president) just doesn't "get it" when it comes to Islam.  Wouldn't hurt to have someone that does.


by Ryan Anderson on Thu Dec 20, 2007 at 12:19:52 AM EST

Re: The Slimeball Politics of Lt. Bob Kerrey (none / 0)

holy crap, how naive do you have to be to believe the series of muslim baiting coming out the clinton campaign isn't an attack?

what are they then? a series of unintended coincidential events? yeah, that's the ticket.


I really don't understand how that is an attack; lol. ~ by Jerome Armstrong
by jello on Thu Dec 20, 2007 at 06:19:10 AM EST

Re: The Slimeball Politics of Lt. Bob Kerrey (none / 0)

It's well-established that you believe nothing is a coincidence.

I'm sure the reason Kerrey made the exact same points in an interview with the Economist two months ago was to cleverly lay the groundwork for bringing it up again in the primary campaign.

I hear this same "how can you be so naive" crap from the 9/11 Truthers.  It's an argument with no impact whatsoever.


"Another problem we have...is that in election years we behave somewhat as primitive peoples do at the time of the full moon." --Harry Truman
by Steve M on Thu Dec 20, 2007 at 08:57:36 AM EST
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