John Edwards is peaking at the right time in Iowa

Note: I am a volunteer precinct captain for John Edwards in the Des Moines suburbs.

A few weeks ago I wrote a diary about John Edwards' positive message to Iowans in response to the argument that "there is no positive narrative for the Edwards campaign now". I had to laugh as I read some bloggers and pundits claim that Edwards would fade like Dick Gephardt did four years ago because he was "only attacking."

I knew how many undecided voters were still giving Edwards their serious consideration. I knew how strong the campaign's organization was in Iowa. Most important, I knew that DrFrankLives got it right when he said:

He's the best closer ever.  he was in the courtroom and he is in campaigns.  

Just watch.

I'll keep this short tonight, because other diarists have published so many good pieces today about Edwards. Cosbo has a great rundown on the news of the day in tonight's Edwards Evening News Roundup.

RDemocrat's diary about Edwards' positive message is also worth reading.

The Iowa polls are all over the place, and I don't put much stock in them, because it is so difficult to poll the caucuses. That said, when Bill Clinton tells Charlie Rose that Edwards may win Iowa, and Obama criticizes Edwards by name at a campaign stop in Iowa, I suspect that their internal polling is showing a surge for Edwards.

More important from my perspective, Edwards is drawing larger crowds as the campaign winds down in Iowa. Think about that. He has already campaigned in all 99 counties (in 2003 and against this year). It's not as if active Iowa Democrats haven't had a chance to see him before. You can be sure that very few people attending any of the events on Edwards' recent eight-day bus tour through Iowa were there for the novelty of seeing the candidate speak.

These are people who are at the very least giving him their serious consideration, and by all accounts they are giving him an enthusiastic reception.

People who canvassed in Iowa over the weekend, like AlanR  and clarkent, found evidence of growing support for Edwards as well. I encourage you to click the links and read those diaries--they are entertaining and informative.

Edwards is peaking at the right time, just before Iowans get together with their friends and relatives during the holidays. He gave a great performance at the Des Moines Register's debate last week, and his television commercials speak to activist Democrats' desire for a candidate who will fight for our values.

I have been saying all year that Edwards would start to pull away as undecided voters made up their minds. Although the race is still tight, I think Edwards is in a great position to shock the political establishment on January 3.

DrFrankLives was right: he is the best closer ever.

P.S.-Last week Robert P posted a moving diary on The year we stole a Christmas tree here. He cross-posted the same piece at Daily Kos (where he blogs as chuckles1). It became the fourth most-recommended post among the 1,876 diaries posted last week, according to "jotter," who keeps track of the "high-impact" diaries at Daily Kos.

Robert's diary also inspired "karateexplosions" to write The Timeline of My Decision, which became the highest-impact diary of the week, recommended by more than 750 Kossacks.

I encourage you to click the links and read those diaries, if you haven't already. They are compelling first-person accounts of how quickly middle-class Americans can find themselves living in poverty.

Many of our presidential candidates talk about this fine line between a middle-class lifestyle and life below the poverty line. For instance, Hillary Clinton's "trap door" ad deals with that kind of economic insecurity, and she used the trap door metaphor in the Des Moines Register-sponsored debate last week.

But ultimately, I feel John Edwards is the candidate best able to address these issues. Not only has he drafted a plan to end poverty within 30 years, a wide-ranging plan to address hunger and food insecurity and a Rural Recovery Act, his own parents occasionally had trouble making ends meet and he has done the most to bring poverty to the public's attention during this campaign.

I don't mean to suggest that other candidates in our field feel less compassion for struggling families. But I think Edwards would invest more of the president's political capital into dealing with poverty.

That turned out to be a long post-script. I look forward to reading your comments.



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Re: John Edwards is peaking at the right time in I (2.00 / 1)

Thanks again for your updates and for all you're doing for Edwards. I share your interest in Edwards' proposals to address poverty and hunger, as part of a larger agenda to restore values of fairness, civic responsibility and opportunity for all.


by desmoulins on Wed Dec 19, 2007 at 01:46:19 AM EST

ABC/WASH POST Poll (2.00 / 2)

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/con tent/article/2007/12/18/AR2007121802183_ pf.html

I don't underestimate Edwards here but I see inherent problems in him being competitive in later contests. This is a unique year in which there is a large amount of organization in later states, which come much earlier.

I fear him winning here could allow for NH victory for HRC and beyond. Not to say that Obama victories in the early states would be enough to end the machine, but it seems more likely that he could continue.  


by danIA on Wed Dec 19, 2007 at 01:56:17 AM EST

like I said, the Iowa polls are all over the place (2.00 / 2)

and ABC/WaPo has generally been the most Obama-friendly Iowa poll this year.

I am hearing the line you used from a lot of Obama supporters and even from a couple of Obama precinct captains I know. I simply disagree. A stronger candidate, with a great message and communication skills, will be able to pull this off.

I don't think many undecided voters will be swayed by the argument that they should go for Obama because he's the only one who's raised enough money to challenge Hillary. It doesn't sound like an inspiring message to me. But I could be wrong.

And speaking of money, Kerry spent $175 million before the DNC in 2004. Who doesn't think we would have been in better shape with a candidate who spent less but had stronger communication skills?

Remember that outside groups will be able to advertise on Edwards' behalf, and the Republican nominee may well be broke by the end of the primaries (unlike George W. Bush who had something like $200 million to spend before the RNC).


John McCain: 100 years in Iraq "would be fine with me."
by desmoinesdem on Wed Dec 19, 2007 at 02:09:04 AM EST
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Re: like I said, the Iowa polls (none / 0)

desmoinesdem,

Since you are on the ground in Iowa,

What's your take or gut feeling on Hillary Clinton taking 2nd place in Iowa?

You think she has a shot at 2nd?


by labanman on Wed Dec 19, 2007 at 02:13:49 AM EST
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absolutely (none / 0)

and while I feel confident about Edwards' position, I would even say Hillary still has a shot at first.

Her big strengths are her support among voters over 60 and her support that is relatively evenly spread across the state (in urban, suburban and rural areas). If she holds a slim lead among older voters, she could easily take second place.

Also, she may be able to tap into a pool of women voters who have never caucused before. She would need to do that in order to win Iowa, in my opinion.


John McCain: 100 years in Iraq "would be fine with me."
by desmoinesdem on Wed Dec 19, 2007 at 02:18:16 AM EST
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Re: absolutely (none / 0)

Thanks desmoinesdem.

You've been a great asset for this forum. Its nice to have the inside scoop from someone who is actually in the trenches & giving us the pulse of voters in the streets of Iowa.

Thanks & Best of Luck with your campaign.


by labanman on Wed Dec 19, 2007 at 02:25:57 AM EST
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Re: like I said, the Iowa polls are all over the p (none / 0)

It's more than money, its what he has done with the money. Offices and infrastructure ready to challenge Clinton in Alabama, Fargo, and Boise...not just NY and CA.

As for communicating, I think we can be happy with both Edwards and Obama as far better spokespersons for where we want to see the party going than JK in 2004.


by danIA on Wed Dec 19, 2007 at 04:03:55 AM EST
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Re: ABC/WASH POST Poll (none / 0)

Is this going to be the mantra for Obama supporters? Vote for our candidate or Hillary will get the nomination. Seriously this is a primary, this isn't survivor where you vote out the one you least like. Support your candidate. If you want to go after Edwards have the balls to do it on something substantial.


by Christopher Lib on Wed Dec 19, 2007 at 11:18:19 AM EST
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Re: John Edwards is peaking at the right time in I (none / 0)

I hear that Edwards "isn't serious" and "cant win" because he doesnt have the machine in post Iowa states. Here's what I think about that. "Machines" are made up of people, and people are waiting to work for Edwards. And they're waiting with money too, Joe's money, and Madge's, and Tonie's too.

Winning in Iowa makes the progressive field the field to be in, and it's John's. People are ready to step up, ready to commit. Its feels like a moment is come.

We have a country and a world in crisis. We know that solutions are blocked by systematic greed and corruption. John sees it, and is willing to step up. Fit and ready. Our solutions are in democracy, and the rights and obligations of a free people.

"We have nothing to fear but fear itself." Franklin Roosevelt's words, almost all of them are the words we need today.


by inexile on Wed Dec 19, 2007 at 02:05:12 AM EST

Re: John Edwards is peaking at the right time in I (none / 0)

Hey nice diary .

I think the whole oprah episode might have had just a marginal effect in Iowa , it might have even been a wash.

Because I think you are right Edwards is the one moving now and it is telling Obama has thrown some jabs at him.

It might be that the undecided are becoming more receptive to Edwards than Obama.

Whenever a candidate takes a strange turn like that they must be seeing something in the internals.

I still beliee Edwards is in the best position to win Iowa as of right now.

However I would like your opinion on the effects of the oprah episode because I haven't seen anything to indicate especially in Iowa that it made a noticeable impact despite the hype.

In NH I think it might have helped Obama marginally but there is a new NH poll coming out tomorrow in the am from  rasmussen and NH institute so that would tell the tale.


Educated in a small town Taught to fear Jesus in a small town Used to daydream in that small town Another born romantic that's me.
by lori on Wed Dec 19, 2007 at 02:07:22 AM EST

I have no idea what Oprah's impact was (none / 0)

I know some people who went to the events out of curiosity, even though they have no intention of caucusing for Obama. But when tens of thousands of people turn out to hear your candidate speak, it seems like there would have to be a lot of undecideds and leaners in that crowd.

I do know of one person who was on the fence between Hillary and Obama all year, who is now for Obama. She went to the Oprah event in Des Moines, but her mom is an Obama precinct captain, so I have no idea what made the sale for her.

I have friends who are convinced that the Oprah events backfired, because they reinforced the meme that Obama is a celebrity candidate with more image and less substance. I don't know whether they are right or whether this is wishful thinking.


John McCain: 100 years in Iraq "would be fine with me."
by desmoinesdem on Wed Dec 19, 2007 at 02:12:23 AM EST
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Edwards too right-leaning (none / 0)

I'd like to like Edwards, but I can't. He co-sponsored the Iraq War Resolution, he didn't just vote for it - he fought for it for 14 months - until he decided to run for Prez, again. He got only a 32% rating from the League of Conservation Voters, hardly the most radical ecologists (they gave Hillary in the 90s, Obama 100%). He carried no states to speak of for Kerry (both, as well as Hillary, Bill and Lieberman, are DLC). He voted with Republicans as often as not, as is clear when you look at his voting record at http://www.govtrack.us/congress/spectrum .xpd

Edwards was my 2nd choice in 04 when I volunteered for Kucinich; I've looked into him since, I stay with Obama. Obama has the right voting record, the right record on technology and open government, public airwaves, health care (actually got it for 150,000+ working poor and reduces costs, thank you, now at 78% inflation!), and ties the minimum wage to inflation, full stop.

Edwards' plan to deport poor people to the suburbs, to be ostracized, far from work and affordable transportation, is already in play - it's called "gentrification", and was a memorable part of the housing bubble fiasco.

As one of the many minorities/women that Democrats court, I'm tired of being used and abused. In Obama's huge squad of volunteers, I meet the most anti-racist people I've ever seen in one place that wasn't an ideological guilt-trip fest. They're pragmatic anti-racists, people who want to judge the character, not ethnicity, color, religion, age, sexuality, ability or origin of a person - all things we're either born into or were mostly foisted on us as children.

I'm sticking with my Alice Walker route, from Kucinich to Obama, gladly. The one poll showing Edwards ahead in Iowa is the first Iowa poll InsiderAdvantage/Majority Opinion ever ran, and has a 4-5 pt margin of error. The CEO of InsiderAdvantage donated $2,300 to Clinton. http://www.newsmeat.com/fec/bystate_deta il.php?zip=30327&last=Towery&fir st=Matt

It appears Hil's operatives are playing Obamans and Edwards supporters for fools, or tryin' to; we're not drinking the Obama-can't-win Kool Aid. He's already won more elections than Clinton and Edwards combined (3 to their 2 and 1, respectively). He's got the Boston Globe, Mass. and NJ support, he'll come out strong on the west coast, and he'll get support from the midwest - pragmatists to the end. It's Obama Time, thank goodness! He's got a real poverty plan, one that's proven, involves the whole "village", and has produced the most Ivy League successful applicants and graduates of any NY school district - in Harlem!


by VCubed on Wed Dec 19, 2007 at 02:41:41 AM EST

Re: John Edwards is peaking at the right time in I (2.00 / 2)

...bloggers and pundits claim that Edwards would fade like Dick Gephardt...

That's been the whole premise of the Obama campaign in Iowa (and thereafter nationally)-- that Obama would campaign to the right of Edwards, and then be to the left of Clinton as Edwards faded, to pick up his support.

It's a foolish strategy to place your plans for success on the failures of others instead of planning on how to succeed yourself.


by Jerome Armstrong on Wed Dec 19, 2007 at 04:04:15 AM EST

Re: John Edwards is peaking at the right time (none / 0)

Yes, it's like a football team resting their starters for a couple of games hoping their opponents knock each other off and they can back into the playoffs.  Not smart.

As Alex Baldwin said ABC, always be closing.


by MassEyesandEars on Wed Dec 19, 2007 at 09:01:52 AM EST
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No such strategy (none / 0)

Since Edwards has such a conservative voting record in his one senate term http://www.govtrack.us/congress/spectrum .xpd it would be impossible for Obama to run right-of Edwards at any time. Edwards didn't just vote for the Iraq War, he co-sponsored the bill. He also fought for escalation and occupation for 14 months while Obama fought it. Even Sen. Feinstein, approving Pickering, Gates, the I-don't-know-if-water-boarding-is-tortur e Attorney General Mukasey, passing the FISA Act out of the Judiciary Comm. with immunity for the telecoms, isn't right-of Edwards! Astoundingly, even Lieberman has voted left of Edwards' one-term Senate record before his - what is it now? 3? runs for POTUS.

Since you've nothing to back up your claims of that being Obama's strategy and you consistently carry water for Clinton, your wishful musings are nothing more, imho.


by VCubed on Wed Dec 19, 2007 at 04:30:43 AM EST

Re: No such strategy (none / 0)

You obviously have not paid one bit of attention to anything John Edwards has done, said, or proposed in the last year.


by adamterando on Wed Dec 19, 2007 at 07:52:36 AM EST
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big business disagrees with you (none / 0)

If it's not going to be Hillary, they'd be much happier with Obama than with Edwards.


John McCain: 100 years in Iraq "would be fine with me."
by desmoinesdem on Wed Dec 19, 2007 at 10:10:03 AM EST
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Great diary desmoinesdem. (2.00 / 1)

I agree. John is starting his closing argument.

Thanks for the shoutout on my diary.


It's an election, not an auction.
by cosbo on Wed Dec 19, 2007 at 04:32:39 AM EST

Re: peaking at the right time in Iowa (none / 0)

Thanks for this informative post and I also have appreciated so many intelligent comments.


by hawkseye on Wed Dec 19, 2007 at 08:48:38 AM EST

Re: (none / 0)

Desmoulins, as a volunteer precinct captain for John Edwards in the Des Moines suburbs, do you know the names of your "executive committee" members presently representing you in your local Democratic Party, and are they too Edward's supporters?

If they are not, there should be two names appearing on the November 4, 2008 ballot, John Edward's and yours. That's right, every four years, during every "general" election, every seat on your local Democratic Party executive committee has to be filled at a general election by all registered party members in your district.

To qualify, simply go to your local Board of Elections and ask to register for an executive committee membership position for your party, for your district.

ex animo
davidfarrar
The National Online Party


by davidfarrar on Wed Dec 19, 2007 at 08:54:14 AM EST

I know one of them (none / 0)

and she was backing Hillary, last I heard.

I don't know who the other executive committee member for my area is. Thanks for the suggestion! I am already on a bunch of boards and committees, in addition to being a full-time mom of two young kids, so I would find it hard to add that to my plate. But I could encourage one of the other Edwards supporters in my precinct to step up.


John McCain: 100 years in Iraq "would be fine with me."
by desmoinesdem on Wed Dec 19, 2007 at 10:09:10 AM EST
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Re: (2.00 / 1)

Give credit where its due -- to desmoinesdem in Iowa.

I'm also for Edwards, in Nevada -- but not nearly as effective or articulate as desmoinesdem.


by desmoulins on Wed Dec 19, 2007 at 10:45:19 AM EST
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Re: Nevada caucuses (none / 0)

Do the Nevada caucuses work the same way as the Iowa caucuses?


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by pioneer111 on Wed Dec 19, 2007 at 12:50:17 PM EST
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Re: Nevada caucuses (none / 0)

By and large, yes. There are some minor differences in rules -- namely, that those who caucus in a group that is viable after the first allignment cannot reallign with a different group (which will cut down on the horse-trading) and that there will be 3 "at-large caucus sites" for Strip hotel workers in Las Vegas that will be staggered throughout the day so that those who are at work at noon can still caucus.

Other minor differences -- that NV caucus goers will actually fill out a preference card so there will be a "paper trail" to verify each precinct's results. And NV caucus goers will be able to propose items for the platform but they will not be discussed or voted on at the precinct level.

The biggest difference is that no one knows what turnout will be -- almost certainly lower than in Iowa. So that caucus-day strategy is going to be less important than voter education, voter ID and voter mobilization in the days prior to the caucus. I expect there will be very few to none who show up "undecided" and I expect that in many precincts, the first allignment will produce all viable groups -- since our caucus is 16 days after Iowa and 10 days after NH, those supporting second tier candidates are likely to have already moved over to one of the front-running campaigns by the time they arrive to caucus.


by desmoulins on Wed Dec 19, 2007 at 02:43:31 PM EST
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County central committee (none / 0)

Hmm, I'm not sure how it works across the state.  In Scott County, picking representatives to the party's county central committee is one of the items to be done during the caucus. (Each precinct can have two.) In the event a precinct doesn't pick representatives, the county central committee will go scouting among volunteers from the precinct to fill the vacancy.  That's how I got in.  I plan to run at our caucus, and invite others to do so, too. (Looking for new representatives has been a standing item on central committee agendas since I became a member.)


by RunawayRose on Wed Dec 19, 2007 at 03:21:15 PM EST
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Thanks for the shoutout (none / 0)

I've seen the man in action as he convinces people of the rightness of his position - it's an amazing thing to see.

Looks like Iowans like it.


by DrFrankLives on Wed Dec 19, 2007 at 04:04:15 PM EST


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