Is this really happening?

The fact that a denial has to be released about a couple that's expecting a child...


Statement On Behalf Of Andrew Young
December 19, 2007

As confirmed by Ms. Hunter, Andrew Young is the father of her unborn child.

Senator Edwards knew nothing about the relationship between these former co-workers, which began when they worked together in 2006.

As a private citizen who no longer works for the campaign, Mr. Young asks that the media respect his privacy while he works to make amends with his family.

Pamela J. Marple
Attorney for Mr. Young


Update [2007-12-19 15:55:34 by Jerome Armstrong]: baaaaa, from the comments:

Sorry, Occams razor may work for us, but full and public statement from both the father and mother ain't good enough for Mickey Kaus. He's gonna need a full gynecolgical exam from Ms. Hunter in the Slate lobby, pronto.



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Re: Is this really relevant? (2.00 / 2)

Then why would you even bring it up?  He asked for privacy.  


by Piuma on Wed Dec 19, 2007 at 03:33:26 PM EST

Re: Is this really relevant? (2.00 / 2)

That was sent to me from the lawyer.


by Jerome Armstrong on Wed Dec 19, 2007 at 03:46:07 PM EST
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Re: Is this really relevant? (2.00 / 3)

Yeah, this whole "scandal" is ridiculous.  The tabloids lached onto it months ago and everyone involved said it was a lie.  Now it comes up yet again.  I'm not an Edwards supporter, but I fell absolutely terrible for the entire Edwards family.  They're such decent people and don't deserve to be treated like this.  


by HSTruman on Wed Dec 19, 2007 at 03:33:32 PM EST

Re: Is this really relevant? (2.00 / 2)

Sorry, Occams razor may work for us, but full and public statement from both the father and mother ain't good enough for Mickey Kaus. He's gonna need a full gynecolgical exam from Ms. Hunter in the Slate lobby, pronto.

Once this dies off Mickey, here's a real hot tip...A friend of a cousin, whose aunt is a good friend at the Duncan Hunter campaign who used to know a guy who saw Fred Thompson once on Law and Order told me (second err..third hand?) that my neighbor who moved to Qatar 15 years ago is actually Mike Huckabee's and Hillary Clinton's secret love child.  

Better get moving on that before another Huffinton Post intern scoops ya.


by alexmhogan on Wed Dec 19, 2007 at 03:42:13 PM EST

Re: Is this really relevant? (2.00 / 3)

I think bringing Obama's razor into this is a completely unnecessary distraction.  Who cares if he uses a safety razor, an electric razor, a good old-fashioned straight razor like barbers use, or even, God forbid, chooses to let some facial hair grow.  

We've got to get beyond these petty differences and focus on real issues like-- like-- like-- ...oh...he said "Occam's" razor.   Never mind.   Unless Occam has made illegal campaign contributions from a madrassa somewhere, in which case, game back on.


by InigoMontoya on Wed Dec 19, 2007 at 03:54:56 PM EST
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Re: Is this really relevant? (1.00 / 2)

I think bringing Obama's razor into this is a completely unnecessary distraction.  Who cares if he uses a safety razor, an electric razor, a good old-fashioned straight razor like barbers use, or even, God forbid, chooses to let some facial hair grow.

I though radical Islamic militants were allowed to use razors?


by hwc on Wed Dec 19, 2007 at 06:34:52 PM EST
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Re: Is this really relevant? (none / 0)

sad attempt at humor?  really say...


by Jim Engler on Thu Dec 20, 2007 at 10:12:40 AM EST
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Re: Is this really relevant? (none / 0)

really sad...


by Jim Engler on Thu Dec 20, 2007 at 10:13:18 AM EST
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Was this story getting traction (none / 0)

or something? Why issue a statement now? I don't get it.

Edwards has to hope the MSM don't follow up on this. Affair denial headlines don't look good.


by JoeCoaster on Wed Dec 19, 2007 at 03:43:07 PM EST

Re: Was this story getting traction (2.00 / 4)

There were "rumors" from unreliable sources, just like the "rumors" that Obama might have been behind the 9/11 terrorists or that Hillary Clinton shot Janet Reno just to watch her die.

Completely unreliable, irresponsible rumors, mostly made up by Republicans. But, you know, the responsible mainstream media needs to report on these rumors over and over because, after all, they're newsworthy. And the real story, to be discussed over and over, is that if these rumors are repeated enough they might cause harm to the (always Democratic candidates', funny how that works) campaigns...


by admiralnaismith on Wed Dec 19, 2007 at 03:48:43 PM EST
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Not the rumour I heard (none / 0)

I heard Clinton shot Janet Reno because she was chasing the NRA endorsement.


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by Englishlefty on Wed Dec 19, 2007 at 06:13:08 PM EST
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Re: Is this really relevant? (none / 0)

I would not trust the enquire magazine since they are mostly a gossip magazine.

Ayway , rasmussen has Clinton leading by 3-4% , but Obama leads among the "certain to attend" caucus goers.

Obama also leads among the "2004 caucus attendees" which is a huge blow for Edwards since his supporters kept suggesting that he has the most experienced caucus goers who attended in 2004...

Keep in mind that this is at least the third poll which shows Edwards does not have any edge among people who participated in 2004 caucus.

The only good news for Edwards is that he leads among 'second choice' BUT Obama is not far behind.
Edwards 28
Obama   23
Richardson 15
Hillary 15

this poll may showHillary with the lead , but the fact that she's STILL doing so poorly among second choices is a big problem.

The narrative of an Edwards rise is just bullshit.

Hillary and Obama seems to start pulling away from him big time.

Ive heard how when you tighter-screened polls favors Edwards , but polls after polls have shown that the tighter screened poll , the better it is for Obama.


by Prodigy on Wed Dec 19, 2007 at 03:43:12 PM EST

Re: Is this really relevant? (none / 0)

Or we could talk up the poll showing Edwards leading from yesterday with Clinton in second with the most committed support, and we could paint a totally different narrative then the one you just did.

Polls smolls at this point.

It is moved into the final phase where the ground game will tell the story.

I'd be intereste to hear what many of the canvassers are saying.  I have heard it is down mainly to Edwards and Clinton among the undecideds.  That is that many undecideds are telling the door knockers that they are looking at either Edwards or Clinton at this point.


by dpANDREWS on Wed Dec 19, 2007 at 03:48:20 PM EST
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Re: Is this really relevant? (2.00 / 2)

It becomes bullshit when one keeps insisting that Obama is clearly ahead.

Any of the Top 3 contenders can win Iowa.

That's really the Non-Bullshit story.

Polls are not bullshit. All these contradicting polls are actually showing us that its anybody's ballgame.

But some fans keep on giving their bias point of view that their candidate is ahead.

Obama can easily finish 1st in Iowa. But he could also easily find himself in 3rd place. Same goes for JRE  & HRC.

Now that's No Bull!


by labanman on Wed Dec 19, 2007 at 04:34:55 PM EST
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I am at a loss (none / 0)

Would some please explain Jerome's relationship to this woman, or to this story?


by aiko on Wed Dec 19, 2007 at 03:46:42 PM EST

here's the story (none / 0)

Cleveland Leader

for what it's worth.


by JoeCoaster on Wed Dec 19, 2007 at 03:49:03 PM EST
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Re: here's the story (none / 0)

I got that part. But why would these people use MyDD as a platform for their denials. They did it last time too.  It is the oddest thing.


by aiko on Wed Dec 19, 2007 at 03:53:12 PM EST
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Re: I am at a loss (2.00 / 2)

It's called email.


by Jerome Armstrong on Wed Dec 19, 2007 at 03:49:22 PM EST
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Jamie Lynn Spears (none / 0)

Says Edwards is her baby daddy. I'm kidding. Too much eggnog. Happy Holidays and Merry Christmas to all believers!
by Zeitgeist9000 on Wed Dec 19, 2007 at 03:47:49 PM EST

Re: Is this really happening? (none / 0)

...this poll may showHillary with the lead , but the fact that she's STILL doing so poorly among second choices is a big problem.

Everyone knows that Clinton's campaign is finished. I heard it on TV. All the pundits say so.

If she even manages to finish a distant third, it will be viewed as a major comeback.


by hwc on Wed Dec 19, 2007 at 03:48:03 PM EST

Re: Is this really happening? (none / 0)

oh since all the pundits say so, then... lol


by Trey Rentz on Wed Dec 19, 2007 at 03:57:17 PM EST
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Re: Is this really happening? (2.00 / 1)

sick, even if somehow he did have an affair if no one wants to come foreward it's none of anyones business anyway. I hope they the Enquirer pulls it or supermarkets in Iowa refuse to put it on their shelves.


Obama! because 51% isn't enough!
by nevadadem on Wed Dec 19, 2007 at 03:52:37 PM EST

Unfair to all involved (2.00 / 8)

Andrew Young is a friend of mine, and to see him and his family, as well as Ms. Hunter, dragged through the mud by the national enquirer is tremendously depressing.

He is a good and talented person who obviously made a mistake.  It's a private matter and should remain so.

By the way, my challenge to Mickey Kaus to meet me somewhere and make his statements in a forum where people can respond still stands.  The fact that a friend of mine is involved in this story just makes me even angrier at the sleaze merchants like Kaus.


by DrFrankLives on Wed Dec 19, 2007 at 03:54:08 PM EST

Re: Unfair to all involved (2.00 / 1)

Slate I thought was a respected site, they should pull this shit.


Obama! because 51% isn't enough!
by nevadadem on Wed Dec 19, 2007 at 03:56:09 PM EST
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if a woman has decided to have the child (none / 0)

it's bad form for a third party to refer to the pregnancy as a mistake.


Rrrinnggg... Time to change the government.
by Carl Nyberg on Wed Dec 19, 2007 at 05:07:51 PM EST
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Re: if a woman has decided to have the child (2.00 / 1)

The mistake is not the baby, the mistake is a married man having an affair.


"Another problem we have...is that in election years we behave somewhat as primitive peoples do at the time of the full moon." --Harry Truman
by Steve M on Wed Dec 19, 2007 at 05:09:22 PM EST
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Re: if a woman has decided to have the child (none / 0)

I doubt it was a "mistake".

"Oh, shit, I'm so sorry. I thought you were my wife."


Rrrinnggg... Time to change the government.
by Carl Nyberg on Wed Dec 19, 2007 at 05:15:23 PM EST
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Re: if a woman has decided to have the child (2.00 / 1)

Of course it's not.  But the reason we call it a "mistake" is to be nice, not to be rude.


"Another problem we have...is that in election years we behave somewhat as primitive peoples do at the time of the full moon." --Harry Truman
by Steve M on Wed Dec 19, 2007 at 05:25:10 PM EST
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Re: if a woman has decided to have the child (none / 0)

You are being disingenuous.


by DrFrankLives on Wed Dec 19, 2007 at 07:21:59 PM EST
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Re: Is this really happening? (2.00 / 1)

did a legit newpapaer print this

Edwards at best rates third in polls of the Democratic Party presidential candidates, but still clings desperately to the hope that somehow he can pull out a win. However, with these allegations floating around, it's going to be a difficult uphill battle.

what the fuck?


Obama! because 51% isn't enough!
by nevadadem on Wed Dec 19, 2007 at 03:54:40 PM EST

nevadadem, that is beneath you (2.00 / 3)

A lot of Edwards supporters stuck up for Obama when Hillary supporters tried to get the media to talk about Obama's past cocaine use.

I recognize that Obama's talking points now call for telling Edwards supporters to abandon their candidate, but it's ridiculous to suggest that Edwards would have more of an uphill battle than Obama.

Edwards has been through a long campaign before, while Obama has never had a tough race.


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by desmoinesdem on Wed Dec 19, 2007 at 04:23:31 PM EST
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Re: nevadadem, that is beneath you (2.00 / 2)

Many of us Obama supporters find this story repulsive.    


by HSTruman on Wed Dec 19, 2007 at 04:32:31 PM EST
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Re: nevadadem, that is beneath you (2.00 / 1)

including me, I think Roger Altman should as huge Clinton supporter use his power to make sure the print version of this does not get run.


Obama! because 51% isn't enough!
by nevadadem on Wed Dec 19, 2007 at 04:35:51 PM EST
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Re: nevadadem, that is beneath you (2.00 / 2)

I am an Obama supporter and I find this story disgusting --- guilt by innuendo.

Something we have been subject to ourselves.

Please don't smear Obama and his supporters for this. We have had nothing to do with it.


by JackBourassa on Wed Dec 19, 2007 at 04:51:24 PM EST
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Re: nevadadem, that is beneath you (none / 0)

Actually, I believe it.


Democrats Against Hillary
by wahoopaul on Wed Dec 19, 2007 at 06:06:49 PM EST
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Re: nevadadem, that is beneath you (none / 0)

Would you like to buy a bridge?


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by Englishlefty on Wed Dec 19, 2007 at 06:15:47 PM EST
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Re: nevadadem, that is beneath you (none / 0)

oh shit, I was posted it from the link upthread about how the newspaper from Cleveland printed that
http://www.clevelandleader.com/node/4205
I meant it only to show what the paper said. Read my other posts about this topic and you will understand.
Obama! because 51% isn't enough!
by nevadadem on Wed Dec 19, 2007 at 04:34:35 PM EST
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Re: nevadadem, that is beneath you (2.00 / 4)

I would like to think that Obama supporters collectively deplore this story and any repetition of it, I certainly do.  The notion that 'where there is smoke there is fire' is the kind of baseless stupidity which allows these destructive narratives to gain traction.  Let those who seek to derive some petty electoral advantage from this go rot in their own personal hells unremarked.

We should be supporting Edwards and Edwards supporters in condemning any attempt to get mileage out of this.  I mean, the National Enquirer for pity's sake.  I am reluctant to even comment on it.


by Shaun Appleby on Wed Dec 19, 2007 at 05:07:35 PM EST
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Re: nevadadem, that is beneath you (none / 0)

None of those Clinton cheating stories were ever true!


Democrats Against Hillary
by wahoopaul on Wed Dec 19, 2007 at 06:07:22 PM EST
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Re: nevadadem, that is beneath you (2.00 / 1)

What has that got to do with any of this?  Where there's smoke there is sometimes mirrors.


by Shaun Appleby on Wed Dec 19, 2007 at 06:30:35 PM EST
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Re: Is this really happening? (1.00 / 2)

it's not a "couple" expecting a child. Young is married and has children of his own. Hunter's unborn child was rumored to have been fathered by Edwards. Young is a good friend of Edwards', had been with him in various capacities since 1998. He was the campaign's Director of Operations. Yes, the National Enquirer is engaging in baseless rumor-mongering. But the actual facts apparently compelled Young to issue this statement, possibly hoping that it would put the Edwards as daddy rumor  to rest.


by along on Wed Dec 19, 2007 at 04:16:55 PM EST

Re: Is this really happening? (2.00 / 1)

who gives a damn, if no one is making an allegation why is it news?


Obama! because 51% isn't enough!
by nevadadem on Wed Dec 19, 2007 at 04:25:43 PM EST
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Re: Is this really happening? (none / 0)

the statement isn't news, but the allegations, in the form of baseless rumors from anonymous sources, were published today online by the National Enquirer. I'm saying that's why the statement was released to the media.


by along on Wed Dec 19, 2007 at 05:17:13 PM EST
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Re: Is this really happening? (none / 0)

Why does the media fear populism?


by truthteller2007 on Wed Dec 19, 2007 at 04:24:02 PM EST

Nice to see Chris Lehane is still getting work (2.00 / 2)

n/t


by desmoulins on Wed Dec 19, 2007 at 04:29:06 PM EST

Mickey Kaus and the Right Wing Blogs (none / 0)

FWIW, Kaus and the right wing blogs have carried false innuendoes with respect to Hillary Clinton as well.

One can only hope that responsible journalists will NOT publish these lies, for doing so definitely shows a reckless disregard for the truth.

Let's flush this stuff down the toilet...pull the lever folks...and return to the serious business of electing a president.


by Demo37 on Wed Dec 19, 2007 at 04:53:46 PM EST

Re: Is this really happening? (none / 0)

Well:

The DEMs in this primary are acting like the rethugs have done in GEs!!!!


by pate on Wed Dec 19, 2007 at 05:07:55 PM EST

Re: Is this really happening? (none / 0)

This story showed up on my Google News Reader today as published in tabloids and some other rags that I had never heard of, I would think that was enough to give it legs on the net and cause the denial to be issued.


by greenvtster on Wed Dec 19, 2007 at 10:16:56 PM EST

Rielle videos back up on Webcastr.com. (none / 0)

Whatever the outcome, the videos are back up on the web.  Here is a link to the four webisodes that Rielle Hunter produced for Edwards that seemingly got the whole ball rolling.  Not sure what it proves but you certainly can take a look for yourself.

http://www.webcastr.com/videos/news-poli tics/edwards-webisode-1-plane-truths.htm l


by TheMan001 on Thu Dec 20, 2007 at 04:12:15 AM EST

Am I the only one who sees conspiracy? (2.00 / 1)

Last week, The Enquirer's headline was:

STEADMAN HAS HAD ENOUGH W/OPRAH?
(and OBAMA was to blame)

This week it's JOHN EDWARDS.

DO you REALLY think it's a coincidence?

Do you REALLY think it's a coincidence considering that a huge Clinton booster just BOUGHT THE ENQUIRER?

Come on, people.

IF the Edwards campaign takes it up, then it becomes a 'legitimate' story, because right now, the ' legitimate' press could only say,
' According to the National Enquirer'.

AS soon as the Edwards camp issues a DENIAL, then they could lead with ' The Edwards camp issued a denial about the story of John Edwards having a love child.'

I'm sorry, but I'm a tinfoil hat conspiracy theorist like that.


by rikyrah on Thu Dec 20, 2007 at 07:50:51 AM EST


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