Chris Dodd and the FISA Filibuster UPDATED

I'm still trying to figure out what exactly is going to go on with the FISA bill debate today. As we know, Chris Dodd has stepped up with his intention to filibuster the bill because of the retroactive telecom immunity provision contained within the bill Harry Reid has brought to the floor. Floor speeches on the matter are currently underway at CSPAN2.

Earlier, Senator Feinstein offered up an amendment to the bill that would narrow the immunity provision of the FISA law to allow the FISA court to determine whether the telecoms complied with the law or not. Apparently, under this amendment, if the telecoms were found to have broken the law, even in the name of assisting the federal government in "national security," immunity would not apply to them. The question remains, if Feinstein is so interested in holding telecoms that broke the law accountable, why is she standing in the way of the pending lawsuits designed to determine just that. And at what point exactly is Feinstein going to realize that reasoned half-measures don't work. They want it all and we need to demand that they get nothing.

Chris Dodd gets this. That's why he was determined to filibuster the bill today. The Dodd campaign explained how it would go down on a conference call earlier today (h/t mcjoan ):

Dodd's staff explained in a conference call that as soon as the bill is brought up, he will introduce the Dodd/Feingold resolution to strip the amnesty provision from the bill. If that resolution passes, which is unlikely, then we all rejoice. If it fails, Dodd will ask for recognition and his filibuster will begin.

As Chris Dodd's deputy campaign manager, Amos Hochstein, put it:

"He will speak as long as he can," Hochstein said. "He will speak until he can no longer."

Right now, what's going on on the floor is an extended post-cloture debate on the FISA bill while the procedural rules are hashed out. There was a cloture vote earlier today but it does not affect the ability for Dodd to filibuster the bill. That will commence later this afternoon.

In the meantime, Dodd can be seen on the floor intermittently, appearing to run the show really, and made an impassioned speech earlier this morning, an excerpt of which is below:

Mr. President, why do I feel so strongly about this matter?

For the last six years, our largest telecommunications companies have been spying on their own American customers.

Secretly and without a warrant, they delivered to the federal government the private, domestic communications records of millions of Americans--records this administration has compiled into a database of enormous scale and scope.

That decision betrayed millions of customers' trust. It was unwarranted--literally.

But was it illegal?

That, Mr. President, I don't know. And if this bill passes in its current form, we will never know. The president's favored corporations will be immune.

Their arguments will never be heard in a court of law. The details of their actions will stay hidden. The truth behind this unprecedented domestic spying will never see light. And the book on our government's actions will be closed, and sealed, and locked, and handed over to the safe-keeping of those few whom George Bush trusts to keep a secret.

Thank you for stepping up today, Senator Dodd.

Here's video of his stunning speech on the floor from earlier today opposing telecom immunity:

"I've never come to the floor with such anger."

[editor's note, by Todd Beeton]Received some clarification, edited accordingly. Assuming his amendment to strip telecom immunity from the bill fails as all expect, Senator Dodd will begin filibustering this bill later today, time TBD.



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Re: Chris Dodd and the FISA Filibuster (none / 0)

According to the email I just got from MoveOn, both Obama and Biden said they would support the filibuster and did so back in October. Barbara Boxer, who I just called, does not have an official position on filibuster but is going to vote no on the bill.  


by Piuma on Mon Dec 17, 2007 at 03:01:48 PM EST

As far as I know (none / 0)

We are still debating the motion to bring the bill forth...
I'll quote Kagro X,
"Earlier today, a cloture motion passed by a vote of 76-10. That means a maximum of 30 hours of debate remained on the motion. They're not debating the bill yet, even though that's the subject they're talking about on the floor."

So he could take up some 28 hours before the bill even is voted to be brought forth or not.

Everyone needs to call their senators and tell them to back Dodd here and refuse to accept any sort of immunity:
http://www.senate.gov/general/contact_in formation/senators_cfm.cfm


by MrMacMan on Mon Dec 17, 2007 at 03:02:47 PM EST

Re: As far as I know (none / 0)

Is Diane Feinstein's phone that busy or have they taken the phone off the hook.  I got right through to Boxer's phone system, took a half hour to get a person on the phone, but I got right through.  Still no luck getting anything but a busy signal from Feinstein.


by Piuma on Mon Dec 17, 2007 at 03:10:59 PM EST
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Re: Chris Dodd and the FISA Filibuster (none / 0)

Thank you for a front page post on this!

With Democrats like Harry Reid and Dianne Feinstein, who needs Republicans?


by RepublicanWatch on Mon Dec 17, 2007 at 03:14:01 PM EST

Re: Chris Dodd and the FISA Filibuster (none / 0)

There is still time to save this. The House version does not have the immunity provision, so they will have to go to conference. If the Senate sees that pressure on this is increasing rather than otherwise, than we may see some progress. And if Dodd even comes in third in Iowa they will take notice.

There was a thread on this on Slashdot today, so it is not just political blogs that are talking about this.


by Alice Marshall on Mon Dec 17, 2007 at 03:15:48 PM EST

Thanks Obama. Thanks Hillary. (2.00 / 1)

Always there to stand up for what is right, leading by example.


by Rooktoven on Mon Dec 17, 2007 at 03:17:57 PM EST

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I hope Dodd's action's will propel him to 4th.
It is put up or shut up for Clinton, Obama and Biden.
There would be nothing stronger for their campaigns for change to Campaign from the Senate floor.
Anyone who watched Dodd this morning KNOW this was not just a campaign thing....

If they do not there are two logical conclusions.
(As Dodd just said as I am writing this).."If you really believe in this..you need to be here."

1. Clinton, Obama, Biden do not understand how important this is.

2. They understand, but their handlers pulling the strings, will convince them that standing and speaking on the Senate floor will be a liability later on...

When Edwards talks about you cannot sit down at the table with telecoms..or take their fucking money...this is exactly what he is talking about..

Song of the day..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GsVkV3AZq qI

Dodd is shaming his fellow candidates whom are Senators...


"If you want to end war and stuff, you gotta sing loud"...Arlo Guthrie
by nogo war on Mon Dec 17, 2007 at 03:46:10 PM EST

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Orrin Hatch speaking...
A COMPROMISE...
Hey if you all want to support compromise with someone Like Orrin...go ahead...

If want to buy excuses from your Senator on why they will not speak on the Senate floor?...
Fine..
But I will assume that you have and will support
the compromises by Harry and Nancy.

I am so pissed...I am tired of being this pissed...

I can tell you...the streets of Denver in 2008..
will not be about compromise...or sitting down at some table...


"If you want to end war and stuff, you gotta sing loud"...Arlo Guthrie
by nogo war on Mon Dec 17, 2007 at 03:56:25 PM EST


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