Shifts on the Student Vote in Iowa

Part of the candidate supporter series

It's hard not to say that the work of youth vote advocates in Iowa has been magnificent.  They've shown themselves willing to flex their muscle, even in a Democratic primary, and they produced results.

Whereas just yesterday, it looked like more and more Democratic campaigns were abandoning student voters, and most media coverage related it as an Obama-Clinton spat instead of weighing in on substance.  Organizations like Young Voter PAC, Iowa PIRG, and Rock the Vote put out tough statements, worked behind the scenes, and stuck to their principles.

Let me make clear: The idea that a student should only be able to vote in the community they come from, rather than in the community they live in, is in itself an attack on the student vote as such.  And it's wrong to spontaneously create new standards of citizenship that apply to no other category of citizen but students.  No other Iowa resident would be challenged for spending the holidays with family and returning home early to Iowa to cast their vote.

Today, the Iowa Democratic Party released a statement making clear all Iowa students are eligible to caucus and making clear their intention to encourage all Iowa students to exercise that right.  Iowa's lefty blogosphere seems unanimous in challenging Yepsen on this.

And the Clinton campaign released a near flawless statement today (despite insisting once again on raising the specter of youth voter fraud):

"Hillary wants every student who lives in Iowa and wants to caucus in Iowa and is eligible to caucus in Iowa to do so. We hope that they will and we hope that they will caucus for Hillary[...] We hope and trust that every campaign is making sure that potential caucus goers have all the information they need, and in no way explicitly or implicitly encourages anyone to break the law by participating in two places. Not only is it okay to engage students in Iowa, but it is critical to ensure that they are active participants in the process, and we are doing everything we can to get them out to caucus."

What I like about the statement is that it not only an endorsement of the right of all Iowa students to participate, but it is a commitment to work in engaging those students.

This is a dramatic reversal from their earlier statement:

There's a big difference here. We are not systematically trying to manipulate the Iowa caucuses with out of state people. We don't have literature recruiting out of state college students.

And an improvement over their last "clarification":

Senator Clinton... hopes that all Iowa students who have made Iowa their permanent home participate in the caucus.

So why am I still not optimistic?  For one, I'm still worried that while comments disparaging student voters received wide coverage, such as Clinton's comments insisting that students don't pay taxes or Dodd's comments that students from out of state aren't legitimate Iowans, retractions have been mostly mailed out to progressive youth voting advocates and haven't received much attention.

Second, let me pause for a minute on the issue of youth voter fraud, a bizarre topic to suddenly be releasing press releases about.

On the stump yesterday at Grinnell College, a college where all but 13% of students are from out of state, Bill Clinton responded to a question about the student vote:

Clinton responds to the question first by arguing that a "caucus" is not in fact an "election" and thus should only be for "Iowans" --- that a caucus is inherently limited, in that service members and workers on a night-shift are disenfranchised by not being allowed to vote absentee.  This is an argument against part of the caucus format, but how is it an argument for disenfranchising student voters?

Second, Clinton argued that the decision to vote was a matter of conscience, arguing that students should caucus only if they consider themselves Iowans.  Iowa Independent's Chase Martyn was at the Grinnell College event and had this to say:

Implied in Clinton's argument is the premise that college students feel too strongly connected to politics in two different states, as if that is the true problem: conniving young people are so eager to vote that they will do so in two different states at the same time.  Does anyone actually think that's the problem?

In truth, college students, like other young people, feel increasingly disconnected from politics, whether we're talking about politics where they grew up or politics where they live now.  There is no epidemic of college students who vote in too many elections.  To the contrary, the problem is that they don't vote enough.  Viewed in this light, Clinton's argument sets up nothing more than a straw man designed to suppress youth turnout.

Lastly, Clinton repeatedly implicitly criticized same-day registration for opening the door to voter fraud, arguing that it allows people to come in, claim to be a resident, vote, and then leave.  Instead of forcing young people to make a true commitment to a place by registering to vote in advance apparently, voters can vote and run.  It is odd, to say the least, that he would challenge the idea that perhaps has the greatest short-term potential of boosting voter turnout.

Maybe I'm cynical because last week saw a string of candidates saying one thing on the stump and then releasing press releasing saying another about the right of students from out of state to participate.

Needless to say, the strategy is beginning to backfire on Iowa campuses.  Clinton campaign volunteers in Des Moines were confused on their own campaign's position on Iowa students from out of state when doing phone banking for the Grinnell area.  And Clinton's rally at the University of Iowa was sparsely attended and the audience, according to Iowa Independent, was there for Bill and had little interest in voting for Hillary.



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Re: Shifts on the Student Vote in Iowa (2.00 / 1)

It's nice to see the narrative turning around on this.  Yepsen was just so, so wrong.

The sooner our candidates get right on this issue, the less damage the Democratic brand will suffer among the young voters we need in order to win elections.


"Another problem we have...is that in election years we behave somewhat as primitive peoples do at the time of the full moon." --Harry Truman
by Steve M on Wed Dec 12, 2007 at 11:50:25 PM EST

Re: Shifts on the Student Vote in Iowa (2.00 / 1)

I don't see how they were expecting to win on this issue... As soon as they engage him directly, he can say, "I'm being attacked from the right on this issue.  I wouldn't expect such a blatant display of youth voter disenfranchisement from other Democrats.  In 2006 Iowa upheld its election laws, no thanks to the Republicans, who tried to prevent college students the ability to vote."

Just, something like that.  Also, it seems like the war drums here have been left to Biden and Dodd.  Edwards never really cared, Richardson never got into this debate, and Clinton took a couple steps back not to alienate her own out-of-state college students.    


"Life can only be understood backwards, but it must be lived forward." - Soren Kierkegaard
by SixthElement on Thu Dec 13, 2007 at 12:01:39 AM EST
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Right on... (none / 0)

I can't believe that so many Democratic candidates for president would stoop to voter intimidation. Let alone the Dean of the Iowa press corps.

Bet Yepsen had a a lot to talk about with Hillary last Friday...

"She went from East High School to downtown Des Moines for a private dinner Friday evening with David Yepsen."

Source:
http://www.nytimes.com/2007/12/12/us/pol itics/12clinton.html?ref=politics


What's the Point?
by Vermonter on Thu Dec 13, 2007 at 12:04:42 AM EST

Re: Shifts on the Student Vote in Iowa (2.00 / 1)

dodd, who helped to launch and pass help america vote act, was once asked why do we have electronic voting machines that aren't required to leave a paper trail? dodd feigned ignorance. here is a man who passed legislation that pushed states to go electronic and he was unaware of their pitfalls in doing so? unforgivable.


I really don't understand how that is an attack; lol. ~ by Jerome Armstrong
by jello on Thu Dec 13, 2007 at 12:11:01 AM EST

Re: Shifts on the Student Vote in Iowa (none / 0)

from your "sparsely attended" link:

bill clinton : "If you're a student here, you honestly spend more time here, and your primary political identity is here, then, according to the Supreme Court vote over 30 years ago, you are qualified to vote."

boy, they left no stone unturned seeking an out to disenfranchise students.


I really don't understand how that is an attack; lol. ~ by Jerome Armstrong
by jello on Thu Dec 13, 2007 at 12:47:06 AM EST

does HRC understand the tax code? (none / 0)

What taxes do students pay?

Income tax? Maybe some, but not much.

Property tax? No.

Sales taxes? Yes.

Do students who come to Iowa from other states get any discounts on their taxes? I'm pretty sure the answer is, "No."

So, WTF was Clinton talking about in the first place? Clinton insulted not just students originally from outside Iowa, but all students. Clinton pretty much said, "Yeah, the gov't takes your taxes, but you aren't rich enough to be 'real' taxpayers, y'know, important people."

For someone who trumpets her own experience, why does it seem like her campaign has sunken to some sort of bad amateur hour campaign?


Rrrinnggg... Time to change the government.
by Carl Nyberg on Thu Dec 13, 2007 at 01:32:11 AM EST

Re: does HRC understand the tax code? (none / 0)

One could also argue that they pay property taxes indirectly by paying rent to their landlords.


by DPW on Thu Dec 13, 2007 at 02:01:14 AM EST
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Re: does HRC understand the tax code? (none / 0)

Sorta.

This doesn't apply to students in dorms.

Also, rent is often paid by parents.


Rrrinnggg... Time to change the government.
by Carl Nyberg on Thu Dec 13, 2007 at 12:11:04 PM EST
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Re: Shifts on the Student Vote in Iowa (none / 0)

Did my Con Law final....

Voting is one of the super-extreme fundamental rights, and so it requires strict scrutiny analysis, but students aren't a protected class so you're going to need to look at it under substantive due process.

Basically the state needs very compelling reason why permitting people not to vote where they live is in the interests of the state. Generally you can't even wait more than 60 days to obtain benefits or it's a restriction of the right of interstate travel (another of the super fundamental rights).

So in theory, a court challenge might end up resulting in a student win.


by MNPundit on Thu Dec 13, 2007 at 02:40:11 AM EST

Re: Shifts on the Student Vote in Iowa (none / 0)

You should look up the case of Wilkins v. Ann Arbor City Clerk, a Michigan decision I've been meaning to diary.  


"Another problem we have...is that in election years we behave somewhat as primitive peoples do at the time of the full moon." --Harry Truman
by Steve M on Thu Dec 13, 2007 at 09:10:48 AM EST
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