Hillary Clinton Continues to Impress Voters

An interesting survey of voters was conducted recently by by Knowledge Networks for the Associated Press and Yahoo! News:

http://news.yahoo.com/page/election-2008 -political-pulse-11202007

The horserace numbers first (Democratic primary):

Clinton 48
Obama 22
Edwards 13
Undecided 12
Others 5

More interesting are the impressions of '08 candidates:

"Which candidate is the most likable? ... None of the Democratic candidates has a clear advantage among Democratic voters, with Clinton, Barack Obama and John Edwards running about even. But in a sheer popularity contest, pitting the most likable Democrat vs. the best-liked Republican, it would be Obama over Giuliani, 54 percent to 46 percent ...

Ask voters which qualities are most important, though, and they put likability well down the list. They attach far more importance to being honest, ethical, decisive and strong."

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"Ask Democrats to size up their party's candidates on personal qualities, and it's easy to see why Clinton is leading national polls of Democrats. She is the candidate most often seen as strong, experienced, decisive, compassionate. Looking for strength, for example, 78 percent of Democrats see the quality in Clinton, 61 percent find it in Obama, 56 percent in Edwards."

It's interesting that this survey was conducted Nov. 2-12 -- in between the Oct. 30 Philadelphia debate and the Nov. 15 Las Vegas debate.  This was "supposed to be" a really bad time for Clinton, as she got attacked from all angles during those two weeks.  In light of that fact, Hillary's numbers here look really strong, as she beats Obama and Edwards on voters impressions of each candidate's strength, experience, decisiveness, ethics and honesty.

The accompanying article adds that the survey included 1,049 Democrats, for whom the margin of sampling error was plus or minus 3 points ...  "Unlike most Internet polls, this one is nationally representative because people are first contacted using traditional telephone polling methods, and are then followed using online interviews..."



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Re: Hillary Clinton Continues to Impress Voters (2.00 / 1)

I commend you for a positive diary on your candidate. While I strongly believe Edwards is the best choice, I will not tarnish your positive diary. Best wishes!!


by RDemocrat on Tue Nov 20, 2007 at 05:07:35 PM EST

Re: Hillary Clinton Continues to Impress Voters (2.00 / 1)

Those are interesting numbers, and a very good sign for Democratic chances in 2008.


"Another problem we have...is that in election years we behave somewhat as primitive peoples do at the time of the full moon." --Harry Truman
by Steve M on Tue Nov 20, 2007 at 05:15:05 PM EST

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Sounds good to me silver spring. I think we're looking awfully good in 2008.


by lonnette33 on Tue Nov 20, 2007 at 05:16:59 PM EST

This is very good news. (2.00 / 1)

I can't wait to make this woman president!


by bookgrl on Tue Nov 20, 2007 at 05:38:35 PM EST

Chrissy Matthews won't cover that poll (2.00 / 1)

That poll will make him mad!

Clinton rolls.


by dpANDREWS on Tue Nov 20, 2007 at 06:43:11 PM EST

Thanks for the diary (2.00 / 1)

Here's a link to a New Republic blog that discusses HRC impressing Iowa voters on the stump:

http://blogs.tnr.com/tnr/blogs/the_stump /archive/2007/11/20/hillary-in-her-eleme nt.aspx

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Say what you will about her limitations as a public speaker, she's very good at these small-town events, which draw a couple hundred people at a time. In the debates and her high-profile speeches, she can come off as kind of an Iron Lady--not an altogether bad thing for a presidential candidate, but not exactly inviting either. Yesterday she struck me as more of a nurturing-mother type.

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There was also this: A little earlier in the evening, we in the press section heard some murmuring from a man who was either drunk or unstable or both. Pretty soon the murmuring turned into outright heckling. And, within a couple minutes, the entire crowd was aware that something uncomfortable was about to happen. Hillary was the calmest person in the room. She looked at the heckler and practically cooed: "Just a minute, sir. You'll get a chance. You'll get a chance." You would have thought she was talking to an over-eager first-grader. Of course, maybe it's easier to be calm when you have a Secret Service detail at the ready (the man was promptly hustled out into the street). But I've never seen a candidate handle something that disruptive with such poise.
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ademption: I don't think that HRC's campaign is down in the dumps as the media particularly MSNBC would like to portray it. However, that's the perception out there now and it's great to see HRC stepping up her campaigning. She knows that this race is a marathon and she keeps plugging away like the work horse she is....


by ademption on Tue Nov 20, 2007 at 06:44:18 PM EST

Re: Thanks for the diary (none / 0)

I think the Clinton campaign would like to lower expectations for Iowa. Now that Obama has been declared the prohibitive favorite in Iowa, he'll start to get a little media scrutiny. After all, the media "knows" Hillary can't win Iowa from this week's poll.


by hwc on Tue Nov 20, 2007 at 08:08:06 PM EST
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Re: Thanks for the diary (none / 0)

Beyond that, if she is consistently second in the next few polls, then the media can't spin that she lost Iowa event though she lead in the polls.  If in fact they start "pimping" Obama's lead, then the onus is on him to deliver Iowa.  The Hillary team has to be careful though, that in lowering the expectations for Iowa, they don't see Obama creep in NH prior to the primaries.  I expect the race to tighten in NH even more, but she can't lose that sense of winning NH outright in the polling.


by Kingstongirl on Tue Nov 20, 2007 at 08:22:37 PM EST
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She's got it going on- let's roll on to the nomination- I'm as tired of this phase as everyone else probably is.


by reasonwarrior on Tue Nov 20, 2007 at 06:56:17 PM EST

LOL!! (none / 0)

Any poll that has Rudi Guilliani rated over 50% in both honesty and ethics, must by definition, be a poll of idiots.

Worthless...



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by DerekLarsson on Tue Nov 20, 2007 at 07:09:47 PM EST

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I don't just get it.  Hillary pretty much leads by wide margins in every state, except Iowa.  Yet the media, Edwards and Obama supporters continue to say that Hillary is slipping b/c she's leading in Iowa.

Iowa is just one state, isn't it?  I understand that it's the first Primary state, but are many of you saying that as Iowa goes, so goes rest of the country?

A new poll in NV came out today showing Hillary leading by 25.  

I think Hillary can afford to lose.  However, the media and her rivals want to make Iowa the be all, end all state.


by FilbertSF on Tue Nov 20, 2007 at 08:03:47 PM EST

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Correction: "because she's NOT leading in Iowa"


by FilbertSF on Tue Nov 20, 2007 at 08:04:17 PM EST
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We don't really know who is leading in Iowa, actually. Some polls say Clinton, some say Obama, Edwards is close behind, but they have one thing in common--the candidates are all within the margin of error.


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by RJEvans on Tue Nov 20, 2007 at 08:11:18 PM EST
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The media wants Obama to get the nomination for one of two reasons (depending on the media member):

a) Because they know the Republicans will clobber him.

b) Because he's trendy on the Georgetown Social Club cocktail circuit.

Because Iowa voters won't vote for women candidates, it gives the media their best shot to pimp Obama's candidacy.


by hwc on Tue Nov 20, 2007 at 08:10:20 PM EST
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Iowa Democrats have nominated women time and time again.

You have every right to try and set up an excuse for Hillary's potential loss if you like, but you should really come up with something less offensive than sexism.

We're supposed to believe that Iowans are a bunch of bigoted, backwards hicks, and that's the reason they may nominate a black man instead of a woman.  Give me a break.


"Another problem we have...is that in election years we behave somewhat as primitive peoples do at the time of the full moon." --Harry Truman
by Steve M on Tue Nov 20, 2007 at 10:18:48 PM EST
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HWC is too blunt, but my Dad is a political scientist and one of the smartest, fairest people I know, and he said, look, Iowa ranks only better than Missouri in electing women, it would be extremely hard for her to win the primary there.  


by bookgrl on Wed Nov 21, 2007 at 01:14:33 AM EST
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I'm sure your dad is super-smart, but isn't the relevant track record whether Iowa Democrats have nominated women, which they have many times, as opposed to whether women have carried the state in a general election?  This is a Democratic primary.

And does your dad really think Hillary would have a demographic disadvantage, in Iowa of all places, against a black man?  Surely if anything is a handicap, being black in Iowa would be a bigger deal than being female.

What annoys me in particular is this very transparent attempt by hwc to label an entire state as sexist just to set up a narrative.


"Another problem we have...is that in election years we behave somewhat as primitive peoples do at the time of the full moon." --Harry Truman
by Steve M on Wed Nov 21, 2007 at 01:34:36 AM EST
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I think they are both at a disadvantage, actually. (none / 0)

And, you don't have to be so condescending.  I just meant he is an unbiased political observer, and he has said her gender is a real hurdle in Iowa.  


by bookgrl on Wed Nov 21, 2007 at 01:41:27 AM EST
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Re: I think they are both at a disadvantage, actua (none / 0)

sorry for the typos - this keyboard is sticking........aaargh!


"I never give them hell. I just tell the truth and they think it's hell." Democrat Party "Hack" and President Harry S Truman
by holden caulfield on Wed Nov 21, 2007 at 01:43:28 AM EST
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Re: I think they are both at a disadvantage, actua (none / 0)

I totally didn't mean for it to come out that way.  I apologize.


"Another problem we have...is that in election years we behave somewhat as primitive peoples do at the time of the full moon." --Harry Truman
by Steve M on Wed Nov 21, 2007 at 02:06:02 AM EST
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Re: I think they are both at a disadvantage, actua (none / 0)

No, it's ok.  I think HWC does go too far with his rhetoric.


by bookgrl on Wed Nov 21, 2007 at 02:08:13 AM EST
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one of the smartest, fairest people I know, (none / 0)

what a ssswell thig tto say.

does he teach up in "nerdville", as i think you put it?


"I never give them hell. I just tell the truth and they think it's hell." Democrat Party "Hack" and President Harry S Truman
by holden caulfield on Wed Nov 21, 2007 at 01:42:05 AM EST
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Re: one of the smartest, fairest people I know, (none / 0)

No, he's works in DC.  


by bookgrl on Wed Nov 21, 2007 at 02:06:59 AM EST
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please, media wants hillary. how many pundits do you see on tv forever singing hillary's praises? including republican consultants. they're kissing her ass now so they can attack her later.  

who do you think media would have more fun attacking? that's who they want for nominee.

it was cnn who planted favorable responses for hillary. not for obama, not for edwards, but for hillary.  
brian williams even joked on snl that media has already settled on picking hillary.


I really don't understand how that is an attack; lol. ~ by Jerome Armstrong
by jello on Wed Nov 21, 2007 at 08:01:32 AM EST
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Re: Hillary Clinton (2.00 / 2)

Again, an excellent post from SILVER SPRING.  

From all the bashing and doom-and-gloom painting by CNN, MSNBC, ABC, and the remaining anti-Clinton talking heads, one would never know that Senator Clinton's Las Vegas debate performance has left her more commanding than ever in national poll match-ups.

Her huge national poll leads this close to primaries are unprecedented.  

The MSM has long ago bought into the mantra of their darling, Senator Barack Obama, that the only thing that really matters is lily-white and unrepresentative Iowa, where Obama has pumped his megamillions for a full year--and the rest of the states be damned.

Even a 14-point lead in New Hampshire at this stage, with all the daily dose of hammering she receives from the national press, and nearly every one of her Democratic and Republican rivals, is truly amazing.

Of course the media is all about spin.  So if, for example, Senator Obama now has a four point lead in Iowa in one poll, but within the margin of error, that means he is "rising."  

And if Senator Obama rises by two points (again within the margin of error) in a New Hampshire poll, whereas Senator Clinton remains extremely strong there, rather than earlier being astronomically strong there, why then, that must mean she is "falling."

Naturally this negates the significance of the Las Vegas debate in which media honey Senator Obama was simply dreadful, by all accounts, as was former Senator Edwards, boringly shrill.

The MSM must make the general public believe that the Clintons are not "honest and trustworthy," much as the MSM did for almost all of the 1990s.  

The same forces behind President Bill Clinton's Impeachment are at work anew--the MSM simply must prevent the return of another Clinton White House.

At this stage the only way to prevent that is through pushing Obama.  The only hope of the MSM is that they can perpetuate the Obama mythology in time to prevent a Clinton primary landslide.

Personally, the Obama and Edwards folk have been so filthy in their attacks on the Clintons, I could vote for neither one, under any circumstances.

As a lifelong Democrat, who has never once voted the GOP side in a presidential election, my making this statement should indicate the length to which their campaigns have already helped to decimate the Democratic Party.

I view Bill and Hillary Clinton as heroes of my party, much as my parents and grandparents viewed Franklin and Eleanor Roosevelt as heroes.  One doesn't touch the sacred cows of one's own party.  No GOP candidate dares lay a glove on Ronald Reagan, whom the MSM created and still adores.

Truth be told, the MSM is badly frustrated.  Unlike Obama, a mythology of their creation, the Clintons owe the MSM nothing and never will.

Both Bill and Hillary Clinton achieved power being bashed and savaged by the MSM, presided over peace and prosperity being bashed and savaged by the MSM, and achieved brilliant post-presidential leadership positions, also being bashed and savaged by the MSM.

But they have something Obama will never have--the bona fide Democrat, not the borderline Independent and Republican that Obama glorifies--that crowd that bought into the MSM of anti-Clinton hatred so very long ago.  Those are the Obama followers, in both Iowa and New Hampshire.

Even Oprah Winfrey helped to soften the image of the incompetent GWB by having him appear on her program and make him more palatable to the masses.  She too, bought into the diatribe on then candidate Al Gore, that he was much "too stiff and wooden."

Today, GWB, a longtime media honey, is widely considered the worst of all United States presidents, having left the nation in shambles.

Today, Al Gore is a Nobel Peace Prize Winner.  Senator Hillary Clinton is a twice-elected and extremely popular Senator from New York.  And former President Bill Clinton is the most popular political figure in the world.

Yes, the MSM really knows how to pick them--from senile movie star Reagan to lisping hasn't got a clue GHWB (the elder) to wholly incompetent GWB II.

What a motley crew indeed.  All the Clintons and Gores ever did was preside over peace and prosperity, solicit peace pacts in Northern Ireland and the Middle East, and make our environment truly hallowed.

Today, another wholly incompetent with a dubious, Senatorial record including many key missed votes, would have us believe, as championed by the MSM that gave us Reagan, and Bush I and II, that he has all the answers.  He's a "straight-shooter," even if he doesn't himself vote on those key issues, concerning which he rails about in his chief rival, Hillary Clinton.

Senator Barack Obama is this year's George Walker Bush: stuck-on-himself, petulant, incompetent and ill-prepared, who savages his opposition when they would dare confront his own vaulted view of himself.

That is why both Obama and Edwards were roundly booed by that very Democratic audience in Las Vegas--it was a warning cry from hard-core Democrats like myself: Democrats, above all, must leave our Clinton heroes alone!

Naturally the MSM wouldn't understand it--nor those borderline voters in Iowa and New Hampshire who only know Clinton hate, and define the Clintons through that hate.

Of course, the most gifted politician of our time, Bill Clinton, proved that you neither state to prevail and win the presidency.

Whatever happens in unrepresentative Iowa is irrelevant in this coming year of front-loaded big state primaries.  

As the national poll numbers show, where Hillary's leads remain astronomical, she will indeed virtually sweep her way to the nomination.

Unfortunately for the MSM and Obama, hard-core Democrats just don't buy into the anti-Clinton line.  

These are the Democrats who stuck by Bill Clinton in the worst of Impeachment days, and they will remain at the side of the Clintons, whatever the MSM and their sympathizers in the blogosphere, hurl at them, by spin or by subterfuge.

Hillary Clinton will make a truly extraordinary first woman President of the United States.

The MSM and their long-Clinton  hating talking heads from Russert to Williams to Matthews are praying that unrepresentative Iowa has significance.

The reality is, of course, that it will either have the prescience to also nominate Senator Clinton, or be quickly relegated to permanent irrelevance.

An Iowa win for this year's unqualified media honey, Barack Obama, won't deter Senator Clinton.  It will simply become a permanent embarrassment for Iowa.


by lambros on Tue Nov 20, 2007 at 08:36:45 PM EST

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wow...you've really drunk the kool aid.

Unlike Obama, a mythology of their creation, the Clintons owe the MSM nothing and never will

it was bill who signed off on the telecom bill that allowed for more media consolidation, thus magnifying corporate control which cutting out more and more independant voices in the media. bill didn't fight to bring the fairness doctrine back.

it's fox news' murdock who held a fundraiser for hillary clinton. that didn't raise any red flags for you? what is hillary doing shmoozing with the enemy?

speaking of FDR, read joseph stiglitz, the roaring ninties sometime. he was clinton's economic policy advisor. he talks about how bill undercut FDR's legacy by getting rid of banking rules FDR put in place to prevent another depression. and all the other ways bill rejected progressive ideals with his policies.


I really don't understand how that is an attack; lol. ~ by Jerome Armstrong
by jello on Thu Nov 22, 2007 at 02:46:31 PM EST
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Re: Hillary Clinton Continues to Impress Voters (none / 0)

Regarding the polls above:

I think they POLLED  IDIOTS !


by win on Tue Nov 20, 2007 at 11:38:18 PM EST

Re: Hillary Clinton Continues to Impress Voters (2.00 / 1)

You know, Win (sic), another person who has trouble dealing in reality as it is instead of reality as he wishes it to be is George Bush.  A thought.


by InigoMontoya on Wed Nov 21, 2007 at 01:46:24 AM EST
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