Sen. Obama on the McClurkin debacle

Sen. Obama posted this defense of his inclusion of "ex-gay" gospel singer Donnie McClurkin at a campaign stop on The Bilerico Project. Read the rest here. My thoughts, after the jump.

The question of GLBT equality was placed on center stage by the appearance of Donnie McClurkin at one of my campaign events. McClurkin is a talented performer and a beloved figure among many African Americans and Christians around the country. At the same time, he espouses beliefs about homosexuality that I completely reject.

The events of the last several weeks are not the occasion that I would have chosen to discuss America's divisions on gay rights and my own deep commitment to GLBT equality. Now that the issue is before us, however, I do not intend to run away from it. These events have provided an important opportunity for us to confront a difficult fact: There are good, decent, moral people in this country who do not yet embrace their gay brothers and sisters as full members of our shared community.

Read the rest!

Hm. We've heard this argument from him before, but it skirts around the main issue: he didn't just invite Donnie to sing, he didn't just include him in the big tent, he let him emcee the event, say what he wanted to, and preach about how God can deliver homosexuals from a life of sin. He promised a gay preacher would address the crowd, but he picked a white preacher to address a crowd that was mostly caught up in the mistaken belief that same-sex love is a white thing, and the preacher spoke briefly before people had even shown up. All of this is on top of the fact that he was irritable in interviews on the matter and erased gay religious folk by accusing us of being "hermetically sealed" from "people of faith communities".

It was a disaster of a situation when it came to Obama/LGBT relations. Not a no-starter for me, but I know I was at the mild end of the reaction spectrum when it came to this issue.

Obama keeps on saying that he's the best of all the candidates on LGBT issues, which I wish he'd stop saying. He's not. Dennis Kucinich and Mike Gravel are better in terms of what they said they'd support. And if you don't like your politics with a side of crazy, Bill Richardson worked pretty hard in New Mexico to get legislation passed on our behalf. Even Hillary Clinton, who supports all the same issues Obama does (although he can't avoid taking a dig at her in his McClurkin response), actually led the coalition of Democrats against the Federal Marriage Amendment. You know, showing actual leadership.

He can bring up, constantly, the fact that he mentioned us in his 2004 speech (dude, we're so past that now), but it doesn't really allay fears here. This whole move was a pander to religious fundamentalists, an epic pander, and pandering to fundamentalists is the main problem LGBT people are facing when it comes to getting policy passed. We hear it all the time from GWB, most recently when he was talking about the ENDA - he won't sign it because religious folks don't like it even though around 80% of Americans support it. Our biggest hurdle isn't getting a majority of people to say that they're OK with us, it's getting past the pandering to extremists.

And Obama just fell right into that trap. It'd be great if he had presented some type of pro-gay legislation in the Senate to weigh against this, but the fact is he just hasn't. He really isn't helping.

Cross posted from The Bilerico Project by Alex Blaze. Go there for more queer commentary, fresh daily.



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Re: Sen. Obama on the McClurkin debacle (none / 0)

These events have provided an important opportunity for us to confront a difficult fact: There are good, decent, moral people in this country who do not yet embrace their gay brothers and sisters as full members of our shared community.

How did he confront this difficult fact? It seems to me that the only thing he did was confront the gay constituents of the Democratic Party with the "fact" that they should just suck it up and accept Obama sponsorsing a gay-bashing gospel tour.


by hwc on Sun Nov 11, 2007 at 05:14:04 PM EST

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Yeppers, hwc. I wouldn't have a problem with McClurkin being included if Obama used the occasion to challenge people on LGBT issues.


by The Bilerico Project on Sun Nov 11, 2007 at 05:16:40 PM EST

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Actually, I'd have problem with that in the context of a Democratic Party election, because I don't see the benefit in pitting two strong Democratic constituencies against each other in an election year -- especially since neither consistituency, as far as I know, is out looking for a fight with the other. Obama provoked a fight where there was none, which strikes me as politically brain dead.

If Obama wants to sponsor LBGT seminars in South Carolina's African American evangelical churches, do it in the off-years for cryin' out loud. In a Presidential year, the goal is to strengthen the cohesiveness of the Democratic constituencies, not drive a wedge between them.


by hwc on Sun Nov 11, 2007 at 08:08:05 PM EST
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Re: Sen. Obama on the McClurkin debacle (none / 0)

Non-story, unless you are willing to train your sights on the entire Democratic party. If you aren't, then your feelings are not worth being appreciated nor respected.


"Well Hillary, I looking forward to you advising me as well." - Barack Obama
by General Sherman on Sun Nov 11, 2007 at 05:31:48 PM EST

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Don't worry, I generally do. Except for Gravel. There's not need to kick the dirt in someone's eyes. :)


by The Bilerico Project on Sun Nov 11, 2007 at 05:46:25 PM EST
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a little late for damage control (none / 0)

I don't think this incident is going to play a major role in the campaign, but whatever harm has been done has been done. There's no way Obama will be able to heal the wounds with a statement like this.


John McCain: 100 years in Iraq "would be fine with me."
by desmoinesdem on Sun Nov 11, 2007 at 05:32:53 PM EST

Re: Sen. Obama on the McClurkin debacle (none / 0)

At most, not tossing out McClurkin after discovery of his views was problematic. But Obama's people just wanted to sign up some big gospel stars.


"Well Hillary, I looking forward to you advising me as well." - Barack Obama
by General Sherman on Sun Nov 11, 2007 at 05:33:06 PM EST

He should really just stop talking (none / 0)

about it.  He's making an ass of himself, but I suspect this is some kind of sister souljah for him.  That's why he persists.


by bookgrl on Sun Nov 11, 2007 at 05:51:17 PM EST

Re: He should really just stop talking (none / 0)

Huh? Obama doesn't talk about it except when he has to, and for good reason. The whole debacle was very unfortunate, and there's no political upside for him at all. Total misuse of the term Sister Souljah.

Unless you think Obama could get away with posting an article about his positions on LGBT issues without mentioning McClurkin? It's damage control.


by Korha on Sun Nov 11, 2007 at 06:46:59 PM EST
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Too little, too late. Obama was my second choice until this travesty.  Now he is much further down.


No Way. No How. No McCain.
by Denny Crane on Sun Nov 11, 2007 at 07:10:32 PM EST

he moved from second to third for me (none / 0)

a while back when I learned more about his voting record regarding coal.


John McCain: 100 years in Iraq "would be fine with me."
by desmoinesdem on Sun Nov 11, 2007 at 07:57:26 PM EST
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Sucks, but he has to represent a state in that US Senate.  He was looking out for jobs of his constituents.  


by JeremiahTheMessiah on Sun Nov 11, 2007 at 09:59:29 PM EST
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Re: he moved from second to third for me (none / 0)

Are you suggesting that Obama told the people of Illinois what they wanted to hear instead of what they needed to hear?

Are you suggesting that Saint Obama would practice old-fashioned politics of expediency and special interests?


by hwc on Mon Nov 12, 2007 at 02:23:37 AM EST
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Re: he moved from second to third for me (none / 0)

What I find more disturbing is when you vote wrong and against your state, like Hillary did in 2003.  So if you want to talk about bad, I'm ready to talk about worse.  


by JeremiahTheMessiah on Mon Nov 12, 2007 at 04:16:58 PM EST
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Ok, (none / 0)

Religion and Politics is my life, what I write on for a career... And, I, like most Americans have been quite upset to see Christianity, as well as Islam, be completely deconstructed by the Republican party.  I also know that there are large amounts of young evangelical voters who will vote for Obama over a Gules or Romney.  

Obama is right, here, we as a party have to welcome all kinds into our midst - and if they are wrong we can tell them they are wrong.  But we shouldn't fall into the Republican game of having two issues that are bench-marks for having anything to do with us.  

McClurkin, is flat wrong here, but he is also one of the biggest voices in Gospel Music.  It will get our party, and this country, much further if we let him be active in our party politics - Obama has said McClurkin is wrong on this issue, but it is a huge step for our outreach to Christians to have McClurkin pushing one of our candidates.


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by CardBoard on Sun Nov 11, 2007 at 09:26:52 PM EST

Here's a link for you (none / 0)

http://www.bossip.com/8085/barack-obama- on-the-gays-there%e2%80%99s-a-problem-of -homophobia-among-blacks/

You want real homophobia, here it is. Barack Obama is NOT your enemy, so stop trying to lie and say that he is.

I've said it before, and I'll say it again, what Democrat is going to WIN without these Church Goers?

Oh yes, NONE.

Riddle me this: Does Hillary or any other candidate consistently go before Black audiences challenging their homophobia?

Yeah, when you have it, print a link.


by rikyrah on Sun Nov 11, 2007 at 10:34:09 PM EST

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"I've said it before, and I'll say it again, what Democrat is going to WIN without these Church Goers?"

Not a God damn one outside of San Francisco!  Democrats have been relying on the Black church vote for years, and the Party and the GLBT Community kept their mouths shut--until now.  They know damn well Barack Obama is not their enemy, but clearly they want to make this an ongoing issue for reasons not related to Donnie McClurkin.  If they were interested in fairness, they would judge him by the totality of his record, which is as "progressive" as one can reasonably expect of a presidential candidate.  The most revealing thing about this matter is how truly out of touch White Democrats are with a major and one of the most reliable constiuencies of the Democratic Party.  If this diarist and other critics of Senator Obama are true to their calls to pull up the Party welcome mat from the feet of those who share McClurkin's views, then they should be willing to stand on principle and lose the next election, because there is not a chance in hell of winning this election WITHOUT Black evangelicals in OH or FL who share the SAME views as McClurkin.


by Dee on Mon Nov 12, 2007 at 03:25:25 PM EST
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