have apparently moved over to McCain.

Don't know if he is really going to make a play for Iowa.

Anyone heard any updates on Gore either in or out?

Good... Douchebags from that Kansas Anti-gay church who have been protesting at soldiers funerals with anti-gay hate propaganda lost a lawsuit and got hit with a $10 million dollar penalty...

http://www.reuters.com/article/newsOne/i dUSN3134225120071031

Jackasses!

Got to watch Colbert tonight since they booted him from both ballots.  Should be entertaining... I'm disappointed the Dems booted him... If Gravel can be on the ballot, Colbert (who will get more votes) should be.  

Kyl-Lieberman and Iran.  She listened to Penn and Emanuel on that vote and it may indeed have cost her the presidency.

Wow- Obama copying someone and being unoriginal- that is pretty much his M.O. down the line.

I'm very happy that Church lost- what they did was despicable- it may even be a "freedom of speech" issue but I don't care- some things are so heinous, they should not be tolerated and this is one of them.

Finally, Obama is doing something besides talk.

He must have decided it was a bad idea to not have signed the letter, otherwise why rush out with a proposal the night of the letter?  

It's fine, though.  I just hope Dem's will come together and do something to stop Bush.  I understand Biden's point that I guess it goes without saying that Bush doesn't have that authority, but with Bush, I don't think it does go without saying. And the Congress needs to check his authority.  It's their job.  Is he following his "well, he already doesn't have the authority" with a promise to impeach if he abuses it?  If not, why not collectively assert yourself against Bush by passing Webb's amendment?

obama is just showing that he would rather act alone; not as part of a united group......acts more a divider every singloe day.....

I believe the original Webb Amendment is flawed for reasons which will become clear when Obama's legislation is reviewed in detail.  Does anyone have the bill number or a link to Thomas?

Since I'm now perched on my strategic soapbox, I think in addition to the "Pile On" video that was released today, Hillary needs to release one where it's not just the Dems, but also the Repubs attacking her.  I think if she can create the narrative, without expressly saying so, that the men of all political stripes will band together to attack her, it lumps Edwards, Dodd, and Obama's criticisms in with the Repubs and the rt. wingers.  I think she has to do this if she wants to repair the damage inflicted for the general by her fellow Democrats.

If Obama's resolution really stops any form of military action in Iran, those that vote will it will do it on the principal, and not on the legality of it. It will not pass because it will be in direct conflict with the war powers resolution, plus the Bushies could say its unconstitutional and win.

But i havent read the resolution so i cannot comment, i am just pointing something out... if in fact it closes off ANY way for Bush to attack Iran (even if they attack first), it is unconstitutional and it is just political pander by Obama.

The issue for himself.  And for Political Purposes.

Webb is a third party.  He's not running for anything.  There is no reason at all for anyone to think he is Politically motivated on this.  That's a benefit.  It's very important, really!

There is no reason then why all Dems can't get behind Webb on this.  It is beneficial for all Dems to get behind Webb on this.

People will have to forgive me.  I'm a little pissed off at Obama right now.  Disgusted really.

This issue all of us care about so much.  Now fir the next week we're going to have to listen to pudits talk about how this is all Political for Democrats.

Instead of Democrats taking on the Bush Admin.

Just disgusting.  Thanks Barack.  What else can you screw up?

New here, and I have a couple of question,

First, other than political posturing, what the h*** is the point of the letter to Bush?  It accomplishes jack squat.  Bush ignores everything Congress has to say, even if it is actual legislation, and generally treats the entire institution with contempt unless they happen to agree with his position.  

Another thing, unless I'm just ignorant to the way bills are drafted, (which is possible) I would assume it would take a some period of time to create new legislation (as in more than a few hours).  So, my question is, how is Obama's bill a response to negative reaction to him not singing the letter?  I think any idiot could expect that his name not being on the list of signers would bring commentary, which he and his advisers would have known when he elected not to sign the letter.  I could readily agree that the timing of when he introduced his bill was convenient, but I think that goes to his credit.  His colleagues signed a letter that is strictly symbolic, and he took some potentially meaningful action.  It provides a contrast.

One last thing, my understanding of the bill was that it said that Bush couldn't take any OFFENSIVE military action against Iran without Congressional authorization.  If that is the right interpretation, I don't see how that could be viewed as unconstitutional.  As someone pointed out, Obama was a Constitutional Law professor, so I can't see him providing a hole that large in his bill.  

Obama's co-option of this issue for campaign purposes.

When there's a perfectly valid Proposal already on the table by someone who isn't at present running for anything.

If I'm not allowed to say what I think about it, people then will just have to figure it out for themselves.

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2007/11/2/ 02125/0852

UDALL IS STARTING TO ASSEMBLE A SENATE CAMPAIGN TEAM!!!

He's now trying to put the pieces in place for a Senate run.

http://haussamen.blogspot.com/2007/11/ud all-is-trying-to-put-pieces-in-place.htm l

For those who actually may want to read the resolution, not just comment about it without actually knowing what it says, here it is:

http://graphics8.nytimes.com/images/prom os/politics/blog/01obama.pdf