MyDD :: Obama supporters nervous

Obama supporters nervous

by SF Bay, Wed Oct 03, 2007 at 11:44:53 AM EST

This is from the New York Observer:

In recent weeks, Barack Obama's chief campaign strategist David Axelrod has met with major contributors at the campaign's Chicago headquarters and in private homes to allay concerns about his candidate's lack of movement in the national polls. Obama campaign manager David Plouffe has presided over conference calls to calm down jittery bundlers. The candidate himself has even gotten on the phone with groups of big donors to assure them that the campaign is on the right track.

http://www.observer.com/2007/aaaaugh-bam a

I don't think it will surprise anyone that Obama's supporters are getting nervous. Particularly after today WaPo national poll. I would be nervous too.

What I find entertaining is all the hand holding of his big donors and bundlers. Why to hear Obama, his campaign, and his supporters talk he doesn't believe in those BIG contributions - you know, the $2300 kind. Apparently he does.

To me this just shows the huge disconnect between the advertised version of Obama and the reality of Obama. He's no different than any candidate really when it comes to money. Yes, he's got lots of small internet and "I bought a hat" donors. So do the other candidates. He just makes a bigger deal about it.

If you read all the details of todays poll, Democrats of all stripes just aren't buying it.

And, yes I know all about those 350,000 plus donors. If you want to talk momentum, Hillary got 100,000 new donors in the third quarter; more than Obama.

And, I suppose many will call this a hit piece. I see it as pointing out the inconvenient truth of Obama. I do expect lots of nasty comments - but then again that's pretty much what MYDD is these days.

Tags: Barak Obama, bundlers, contributions (all tags)

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Obama can't win the nomination - (2.00 / 1)

it's doubtful Hillary could win the general - but Edwards would.

Hillary/Obama08

by annefrank on Wed Oct 03, 2007 at 11:53:55 AM EST

I assume you are looking at polls (none / 0)

Edwards polls well, so does Hillary. I don't think you can make your case.

by SF Bay on Wed Oct 03, 2007 at 11:57:42 AM EST
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Re: I assume you are looking at polls (none / 0)

Just as you fail to do in your poorly written hit piece.

http://www.imvotingrepublican.com/ McCain Sucks!

by yitbos96bb on Wed Oct 03, 2007 at 01:34:11 PM EST
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Re: Obama can't win the nomination - (none / 0)

Really? Based on what?

No Way. No How. No McCain.

by Denny Crane on Wed Oct 03, 2007 at 12:27:38 PM EST
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Ummm I dunno that fact that (2.00 / 1)

50% of America can't stand her? Those quid pro polls are full of shit.

It's an election, not an auction.

by cosbo on Wed Oct 03, 2007 at 02:32:15 PM EST
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Re: Ummm I dunno that fact that (none / 0)

50%

not lately. Low forties and dropping. normal numbers for a known candidate now.

"Another problem we have...is that in election years we behave somewhat as primitive peoples do at the time of the full moon." --Harry Truman

by Ernst on Wed Oct 03, 2007 at 07:31:03 PM EST
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Re: Obama supporters nervous (none / 0)

Once again, Howard Dean outraised Kerry, had huge leads in the early polls and still lost. There is nothing to be nervous about, Obama is going to win in Iowa and the presidency.

by allmiview on Wed Oct 03, 2007 at 11:59:01 AM EST

Re: Obama supporters nervous (none / 0)

Really !!!

Educated in a small town Taught to fear Jesus in a small town Used to daydream in that small town Another born romantic that's me.

by lori on Wed Oct 03, 2007 at 12:00:35 PM EST
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Re: Obama supporters nervous (none / 0)

The comparisons don't work. Howard Dean was the unknown quantity and in the end, the Iowa voters went with a known quantity.

In this cycle, the known quantity - Hillary - is leading pretty much in all ways possible. There is no historical reason to think the Iowa voters won't stick with the known quantity.

by SF Bay on Wed Oct 03, 2007 at 12:10:33 PM EST
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Re: Obama supporters nervous (none / 0)

With the Clintons selling their souls to Murdoch, it's not exactly a level playing field.
And if Hillary could win on her own merits - the corporate media wouldn't be promoting her 24/7.

Hillary/Obama08

by annefrank on Thu Oct 04, 2007 at 01:05:46 AM EST
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Re: Obama supporters nervous (none / 0)

Obama-- No better than third in Iowa.

Waiting for the Glorious Train Wreck.

by Rooktoven on Wed Oct 03, 2007 at 04:09:09 PM EST
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no one knows what Obama's (2.00 / 1)

strategy is if he has one.

Elections are about the future not the past.

I know Obama was against the war from the beginning but he needs a second act.

particularly since he's blurred his own differences with Hillary by identical votes in the senate and the 2013 pledge

McCain - a serial Opportunist, from marriage to policy positions

by TarHeel on Wed Oct 03, 2007 at 12:02:40 PM EST

Re: no one knows what Obama's (none / 0)

Edwards could have differentiated himself, but he made the "2013 pledge" as well. Yet, no peep from his supporters.

by georgep on Wed Oct 03, 2007 at 01:14:55 PM EST
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I agree it was a missed opportunity (none / 0)

but Edwards is running on a bunch of other issues and contrasts himself with the senator from new york.

obama has been a two note campaign...

McCain - a serial Opportunist, from marriage to policy positions

by TarHeel on Wed Oct 03, 2007 at 04:29:33 PM EST
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Re: no one knows what Obama's (none / 0)

Have you read the speech?

by horizonr on Wed Oct 03, 2007 at 01:17:43 PM EST
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people are taking the wrong (none / 0)

lesssons from Dean-Gephardt.

it isn't that you can't contrast your positions

McCain - a serial Opportunist, from marriage to policy positions

by TarHeel on Wed Oct 03, 2007 at 12:04:33 PM EST

Re: Obama supporters nervous (none / 0)

It's kind of fascinating a candidate with this sort of warchest is coming down to one-state strategy - Iowa.

Interesting. I really don't believe Iowa will be deciding factor this time around.

Hillary: We will finally have a president who doesn't mind pulling over and asking for directions. Am I right, ladies?

by areyouready on Wed Oct 03, 2007 at 12:13:34 PM EST

About Iowa (none / 0)

I don't think so either. The compressed schedule will not really allow the Iowa winner much time to crow.

And, I also wonder about a one state strategy for a supposed top tier candidate. The two notions just don't fit together.

by SF Bay on Wed Oct 03, 2007 at 12:19:07 PM EST
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Not much time to crow.... (none / 0)

but will give them excuse not to vote for Clinton. Her support is soft. Iowa is about electability in the general. If she could win with all that lovely money, then it's an indication of loss in the general.

It's an election, not an auction.

by cosbo on Wed Oct 03, 2007 at 02:35:24 PM EST
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if the couldn't win, that is.... (2.00 / 1)

Additionally it will be very hard trying to spin coming out of Iowa a loser with all that MONEY. Since it's so very important.

It's an election, not an auction.

by cosbo on Wed Oct 03, 2007 at 02:37:14 PM EST
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Re: Not much time to crow.... (none / 0)

To the contrary, Clinton's support is very strong, especially when compared to what we know about the softness of support for both Obama and Edwards.

by georgep on Wed Oct 03, 2007 at 04:00:35 PM EST
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You're counting your chickens WAY too early (none / 0)

Watch.

by horizonr on Wed Oct 03, 2007 at 08:49:06 PM EST
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Re: About Iowa (none / 0)

It's the result of front loading. And the Kerry domino of '04.

Currently everybody is banking on Iowa, even Hillary will have it touch if she disappoints here.

"Another problem we have...is that in election years we behave somewhat as primitive peoples do at the time of the full moon." --Harry Truman

by Ernst on Wed Oct 03, 2007 at 07:34:22 PM EST
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Try taking a look at the numbers (none / 0)

He's no different than any candidate really when it comes to money. Yes, he's got lots of small internet and "I bought a hat" donors. So do the other candidates. He just makes a bigger deal about it.

This is misleading and totally baseless. Try comparing Clinton and Obama when it comes to small donors.

Percentage of Total Fundraising from Donors of $200 or less:
Obama 28%
Edwards 23%
Clinton 9%
Giuliani, Romney, and McCain all have higher percentages from small donors.

Clinton also received 70% of her total from donors giving $2,300 or more. Obama's percentage from major donors is 44%.

One Million Strong --- Join up

by psericks on Wed Oct 03, 2007 at 12:42:54 PM EST

Re: Try taking a look at the numbers (none / 0)

Percentage from Small Donors:
Romney 11%
Giuliani 12%
McCain 19%

One Million Strong --- Join up

by psericks on Wed Oct 03, 2007 at 12:44:14 PM EST
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Re: Try taking a look at the numbers (none / 0)

Your stats are way outdated. Let's see what's on the book on Oct 15th.

Hillary: We will finally have a president who doesn't mind pulling over and asking for directions. Am I right, ladies?

by areyouready on Wed Oct 03, 2007 at 12:54:37 PM EST
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Stop the Divisiveness! (none / 0)

Keep your eyes on the prize folks! The enemy here is not the Democratic competitor of your candidate. The enemy is the Repug regime that has been running our country and our world into a ruinous abyss. All the supporters of Obama, Edwards, Clinton, Richardson, and all the others will be needed to defeat this darkness that has engulfed our land. Let's stop all this nasty and divisive talk, support our candidate but stop tearing at one another.

by cmpnwtr on Wed Oct 03, 2007 at 01:01:56 PM EST

Re: Stop the Divisiveness! (2.00 / 1)

Repug regime...and Republicans posing as Centrist Democrats.

"I don't oppose all wars...what I do oppose, is a dumb war" ~ Barack Obama

by BlueDiamond on Wed Oct 03, 2007 at 02:37:44 PM EST
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The problem is that Clinton (2.00 / 1)

instinctively feel like a wolf in sheep clothing. Her vote with Lieberman-Kyl kinda proved that. REPUBLICANS Hagel & Lugar voted against it for chrissakes. Not to mention Webb. Jeezus.

It's an election, not an auction.

by cosbo on Wed Oct 03, 2007 at 02:40:10 PM EST
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Re: Obama supporters nervous (none / 0)

I am a little suprised he has many supporters left. I watched him and listened to him for months, and was really impressed with his 2004 speech at the convention. I was really excited about him.
Since then, I have evolved in my thinking of him: I think he is an empty suit.
And...I don't care for (what I view as) his arrogance.
He is sniveling about Iowa being his only chance. What's up with that? He surely needs a few years on him before he is anywhere near being ready to sit in the oval office.
Immaturity does not a President make.

by hudpucky on Wed Oct 03, 2007 at 01:14:16 PM EST

Re: Obama supporters nervous (none / 0)

Have you read the speech?

by horizonr on Wed Oct 03, 2007 at 01:18:09 PM EST
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yes (none / 0)

I assume you are talking about yesterdays speech. Can you tell me why, if he wrote that speech himself, that he didn't know during the last debate he was going to call of all troops out of Iraq in 16 months? Is he making it up along the way? Or did he just read a speech someone else had written? Hasn't his campaign made a big deal about Ted Sorenson, John Kennedy's speech writer coming on board?

So what part of all this is the truth?

by SF Bay on Wed Oct 03, 2007 at 01:37:45 PM EST
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Re: Obama supporters nervous (none / 0)

Every time you say that I immediately think back at his keynote speech.

That is the speech

I'm hoping that these primary fights won't hurt my appreciation of what was one of the better speeches I ever heard. Yesterday's is nothing like it.

"Another problem we have...is that in election years we behave somewhat as primitive peoples do at the time of the full moon." --Harry Truman

by Ernst on Wed Oct 03, 2007 at 07:39:13 PM EST
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Speech (none / 0)

Actually, yesterday's speech was a damned great speech -- but if you are arguing that Obama's every single speech
has to rise to the dramatic level of 2004, you are going to be waiting for a very long time. One of the reasons speeches
like that are great is that they don't happen every day. (Not to mention: When has any other candidate delivered a speech
that remotely approaches Obama in 2004?)

by horizonr on Wed Oct 03, 2007 at 08:23:11 PM EST
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Re: Speech (none / 0)

I'm not arguing that every speech should be similar to that of his keynote speech. far from it...

Just the ones that get labeled as the speech without any other qualifier :P

as for other candidates that delivered a speech that remotely approaches Obama?

Hillary's "Women's Rights are Human Rights" was pretty awesome as well, although bit older. I'm not familiar with the other candidates.

Perhpas you'll like this: top 100 speeches of all time Most are complete with audio. There are some real gems in there.

"Another problem we have...is that in election years we behave somewhat as primitive peoples do at the time of the full moon." --Harry Truman

by Ernst on Wed Oct 03, 2007 at 08:58:16 PM EST
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Re: Obama supporters nervous (none / 0)

Just because he appears to be lagging behind doesn't make Hillary the RIGHT candidate to go up against the GOP slime bucket.

What it means is, Americans currently supporting Hillary are more concerned about PAY BACK then they are about actually getting the best PERSON for the job in this time of our history.

Coonsey's World http://coonsey.wordpress.com/

by coonbug on Wed Oct 03, 2007 at 02:30:16 PM EST

Re: Obama supporters nervous (1.00 / 2)

Obama is not qualified for the job. He is a media creation.

Hillary: We will finally have a president who doesn't mind pulling over and asking for directions. Am I right, ladies?

by areyouready on Wed Oct 03, 2007 at 02:55:38 PM EST
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Re: Obama supporters nervous (none / 0)

What makes Hillary qualified? Being a political wife? Failing to pass universal health care? Voting for the War in Iraq?

by Namtrix on Wed Oct 03, 2007 at 06:03:03 PM EST
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Re: Obama supporters nervous (none / 0)

Hillary is also not qualified -if- you go by Experience. She has ONLY her Senatorial service and meeting dignitaries at the White House. She was NOT the DECIDER back in the 90's.

Hillary is also a MEDIA creation, to some extent, they ALL are if they've gotten this far.

The question is - who best can fix our problems AND heal America with the least amount of HISTORY/vote attacks being put on him/her?

Coonsey's World http://coonsey.wordpress.com/

by coonbug on Wed Oct 03, 2007 at 03:07:30 PM EST

Re: Obama supporters nervous (none / 0)

Not the decider?

Why did Bill Clinton's staff (at the highest levels) refer to Hillary as "the Supreme Court?" on policy issues?

Why did Clinton's staff know that "let me think it over" meant that Bill wanted to talk to Hillary?

Bill Clinton was "the decider", but Hillary Clinton was his top political advisor. When White House insiders were trying to champion an issue, they knew they had to sell Hillary.

by hwc on Wed Oct 03, 2007 at 03:26:46 PM EST
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Re: Obama supporters nervous (none / 0)

Hit piece? You wish little wannabe.

You would be an embarrassment at most sites. However, you have a home here. We can always use another hit piece.

Dare to be free.

by misscee on Wed Oct 03, 2007 at 06:42:54 PM EST

I am after all (none / 0)

just an amateur and have no plans to get better at it ;)

by SF Bay on Wed Oct 03, 2007 at 09:39:04 PM EST
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Re: Obama supporters nervous (none / 0)

Of course he has bundlers. He's a presidential candidate.

Mheh.