Did Hillary Filibuster Any War Funding? No?

Hillary has to do a little MORE than cast some token vote that gets "covered" by some other Senators on the blood-for-oil team. I need to see her FILIBUSTER some really huge war appropriation, regardless of whatever window dressing comes attached to it. NOTHING LESS! And It has to be a three digit -- $100+ BILLION appropriation. I am getting more, not less, pissed. I HAVE HAD IT WITH THIS BULLSHIT! NO MORE BLOOD-FOR-OIL-MONEY -- PERIOD.

The Brits have cut their losses. And MI6 must know something. I have lost all patience with this procedural merry-go round!


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Should Some Dem Filibuster The Warbucks Now?
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Re: Did Hillary Filibuster Any War Funding? No? (none / 0)

What did Obama do?


by American1989 on Fri Oct 26, 2007 at 05:09:21 PM EST

What Did Any Of Them Do? NADA! (none / 0)

I just pinned on my teabag!


by blues on Fri Oct 26, 2007 at 05:18:11 PM EST
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Did Edwards? Obama? Biden? (none / 0)

How about Richardson?


by dpANDREWS on Fri Oct 26, 2007 at 06:13:33 PM EST

You sound like Glenn Whorowitz (none / 0)

... Wo probably cried his eyes out everytime he is reminded Edwards is straight.

Listen, why is Clinton held to a higher standard?

Dodd, Biden, Obama ... all are Senators.  Heck Bush is President, why does he get a pass?  He could end the war tomorrow.   Trent Lott and his b-boy Mitch McConnell could end it.


by dpANDREWS on Fri Oct 26, 2007 at 06:15:50 PM EST

Stop Riding The Fuck Around! I WANT YOU! End This (none / 0)

Any takers?


by blues on Fri Oct 26, 2007 at 06:49:01 PM EST

Re: Stop Riding The Fuck Around! I WANT YOU! End (none / 0)

Well, I'm not sure blocking the funding is a good idea at all.  I understand the reasoning, which takes the soundest moral ground, and it puts me in a dilemma as I can be pretty self-righteous sometimes but this is one case where I believe politics trumps policy.  Not because the policy is wrong, to be sure, but because on past performance it won't work.  It was a memorable event, however:


    "And if we do not end this damnable war those young men will some day curse us for our pitiful willingness to let the Executive carry the burden that the Constitution places on us."

   "So before we vote, let us ponder the admonition of Edmund Burke, the great parliamentarian of an earlier day: "A contentious man would be cautious how he dealt in blood."

According to historian Robert Mann, McGovern's brief, passionate speech shocked his Senate colleagues. As McGovern took his seat, most senators sat in stunned silence. "You could have heard a pin drop," recalled John Holum, McGovern's principal staff advisor on Vietnam. As the Senate prepared to begin voting on the amendment, one senator approached McGovern and indignantly told him that he had been personally offended by the speech. McGovern replied, "That's what I meant to do.

Wikipedia - McGovern-Hatfield Amendment

Great moment.  What it basically called for, in one of several versions, for was no funds authorized by this or any other act may be obligated or expended to maintain a troop level of more than 280,000 armed forces of the United States in Vietnam after April 30, 1971.  Unfortunately if you trace back the meme that Democrats are weak on national security it will likely lead you to the same spot.  I say this as an enthusiastic supporter of McGovern at the time.  Remember the bumper-stickers of US flags with just one star and the slogan 'Don't blame me, I'm from Massachusetts?'


by Shaun Appleby on Fri Oct 26, 2007 at 08:29:56 PM EST
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Re: Did Hillary Filibuster Any War Funding? No? (none / 0)

Hillary filibuster something? Hahahaha !!!

She CAN NOT EVEN READ a bill before voting. How can she filibuster anything?

Remember:

  • George Bush lied to her before going to Iraq.
  • Kyl/Liberman's bill was only to give Bush more diplomatic options, not to attack Iran ("If I knew then what I know now...")
The list goes on...

Did we say we caught a liar ??? (seem familiar with a Clinton?)


by win on Fri Oct 26, 2007 at 08:32:36 PM EST

Re: Did Hillary (none / 0)

Well, then work toward getting those elected who will do that.  Running around like a "crazy" sure isn't going to achieve anything.


by reasonwarrior on Fri Oct 26, 2007 at 11:12:19 PM EST

Here is an idea (none / 0)

Lets stop peeing and moaning and win 20 more House seats, 5 more Senate seats, and the White House in '08.

The we can end the war, get national health care, and sign all the other shit that Bush or another Republican would veto.

How is that for a simple idea?


by dpANDREWS on Fri Oct 26, 2007 at 11:28:26 PM EST


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