GA-Sen: Paging Max Cleland...

Senate Guru alerts us to a new Strategic Vision poll (800 LVs, Oct. 19-21, MOE 3%) of the Georgia senate race that measures head to head match-ups between GOP incumbent Saxby Chambliss and four potential Democratic rivals. In each case, Chambliss easily dispatches the Democrats with 57% or 58% of the vote, but with an approval at an unexceptional 52%, voters would appear to be willing to consider replacing Chambliss if the right Democrat came along.

Republican polling outfit Insider Advantage (h/t Political Wire) polled a head-to-head match-up (400 RVs, Oct. 24-25) between Chambliss and former senator Max Cleland and indeed found Chambliss's support dropping well below 50% against the Vietnam war hero Chambliss defeated in 2002 by portraying him as anti-American.

Chambliss 36
Cleland 24
Undecided 40

The huge undecided number is the big story here, as pollster Matt Towery explains:

"The key to this survey versus other surveys that have been conducted with other potential U.S. Senate candidates is that when you add Cleland to the mix, the undecided vote soars, leaving Chambliss well below the 50 percent mark," he said. "My guess is that a well-funded Cleland campaign would still be an underdog, but would have more than a legitimate chance of potentially pulling off an upset, given the fact that among independent voters, Chambliss led by only 7 points with some 38 percent stating that they were undecided."

The highest undecided number in the Strategic Vision poll is 18%.

Do I see a draft Max Cleland movement in our future? Now that's a race I want to see.



Display:


Re: GA-Sen: Paging Max Cleland... (none / 0)

How many futile draft movements do you want to start?

It seems to me that money and time should be spent on existing candidates, not thrown away on ones who have already firmly declined to run multiple times.


by Unabridged on Fri Oct 26, 2007 at 04:46:56 PM EST

Re: GA-Sen: Paging Max Cleland... (none / 0)

hmmm... so if we went with YOUR logic the netroots/grassroots would not have pushed some of the candidates (that WON) to run in 2006... right?

Good strategy.  

Also, while we are at it, dump that stupid 50 state strategy, just focus on what we KNOW we can win. Right?

I think I am convinced!

 ;)


Washington Woman

Progressive Blue

by kevin22262 on Fri Oct 26, 2007 at 04:50:00 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Re: GA-Sen: Paging Max Cleland... (none / 0)

I never said to abandon the 50-state strategy, and I never said to not encourage people to get into the race. Jim Webb and Jon Tester never declined to run. Sherrod Brown did and changed his mind, but in doing so he forced out the netroots favorite (at the time), Paul Hackett.

It just seems to me that focusing time (bad) and money (even worse) on candidates that have already firmly stated on multiple occasions that they're not interested isn't the best use of resources. Its easy for people in the blogosphere, from the comfort of their seats, to determine who should run for what. We don't have to deal the consequences of a vigorous campaign, of the pressure it puts on families, on the results if you actually win and have to move to Washington, etc. We just see a resume and electoral strength, and assume those are the only considerations.

Tom Udall has stated three times--first this Spring, then after Domenici retired, then after he was made aware of a "Draft Udall" movement was made--that he wasn't interested in the race, and he thought his time was better spent being on the Approps Committee. Even if you don't want to give money to Marty Chavez, is money better spent towards Udall's certain re-election to the House (which is where money donated to his federal account goes) or to a candidate like Jeff Merkley?

And its not like the Draft Efforts--Tom Udall, Grier Martin, Brad Miller, Ron Sparks, Pete DeFazio--have been all that effective.


by Unabridged on Fri Oct 26, 2007 at 05:10:00 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Re: GA-Sen: Paging Max Cleland... (none / 0)

Run Max RUN!


Washington Woman

Progressive Blue

by kevin22262 on Fri Oct 26, 2007 at 04:47:00 PM EST

Re: GA-Sen: Paging Max Cleland... (none / 0)

We can take this seat along with NM, VA, NH, and CO. That will put us with 5. Chambliss is an arch conservative and unless he has a credible challenger he will definately win. Unless he is challenged, people aren't going to stand up to his conservative credentials. GA is clearly to the right and it has gone that way, but it isn't an arch conservative state and is willing to hear moderate progressive voice like Max Cleland.


by olawakandi on Fri Oct 26, 2007 at 04:54:16 PM EST

Re: GA-Sen: Paging Max Cleland... (none / 0)

Can we expect a Macaca Moment from Chambliss.


by nkpolitics on Fri Oct 26, 2007 at 04:57:31 PM EST

Re: GA-Sen: Paging Max Cleland... (none / 0)

I do not believe there are too many Indians or Asians in Georgia outside of Atlanta to make a difference. Actually Chambliss raising the immigration and Asian mail order bride issue with the voters might actually help with the racist white women in Nathan Deal's and Lynn Westmoreland's districts.

Talking about GOP making an issue of immigration, I said earlier that if the candidates found out that the fire was set by an illegal alien, they would show up and scream. The jury is still out, they are looking for the arsonist, and folks like Tancredo, Hunter and Paul and even Thompson are hoping for an illegal alien..actually as far as they are concerned any Asian or Hispanic, even citizen or legal immigrant might do..


by Boilermaker on Fri Oct 26, 2007 at 05:40:57 PM EST
[ Parent ]

I'd love that! (none / 0)


by bookgrl on Fri Oct 26, 2007 at 05:16:00 PM EST

Re: GA-Sen: Paging Max Cleland... (none / 0)

Using the incumbent rule, this gives Cleland a 51%-49% win.  


by Toddwell on Fri Oct 26, 2007 at 06:37:09 PM EST

Re: GA-Sen: Paging Max Cleland... (none / 0)

I saw a CNN interview with him a while back.  I remember him being asked if he would run for office again, and he said never.  I think he was really burned by the attacks and his subsequent loss and really has no interest in doing it again.


by Kingstongirl on Sat Oct 27, 2007 at 12:06:57 AM EST

Re: GA-Sen: Paging Max Cleland... (none / 0)

Last time I saw him publicly (on Real Time earlier this year?), Cleland stated that he was going through a tough recurrence of Post Traumatic Stress Disorder, and he wouldn't want to ever seek public office again.

However, he did just participate in a debate with Karl Rove, so he may be feeling more up to re-entering the public spotlight:

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21497314/


Leftmost Bit
by Luigi Montanez on Sat Oct 27, 2007 at 10:50:53 AM EST

Re: GA-Sen: Paging Max Cleland... (none / 0)

Saxby spanked Max in 2002 and would do it again.  Max had an extremely liberal voting record while he served in the Senate.  He was simply out of touch wtih Georgia Values.  That is why he lost in '02.  Nothing has changed on that front.

Saxby has done a great job and will easily defeat whoever the Democrats try to convince to be the sacrificial lamb.


by GeorgiaValues on Mon Oct 29, 2007 at 02:26:44 PM EST


You are not logged in.

In order to post a comment, you must be logged in. If you have a member account, please log in to comment.

If not, you can make an account right here. It's quick and free.