African Americans throw support behind Clinton

Sen. Hillary Clinton's lead over Sen. Barack Obama, her chief rival for the Democratic presidential nomination, is growing among African-American voters who are registered Democrats, and particularly among black women, a poll said Wednesday.

Sen. Hillary Clinton is the top choice of African-American Democrats, a new poll suggests.

Among black registered Democrats overall, Clinton had a 57 percent to 33 percent lead over Obama.

That's up from 53 percent for Clinton and 36 percent for Obama in a poll carried out in April.

The question had a sampling error of plus-or-minus 6.5 percentage points.

The former first lady's strongest support among blacks came from black women, 68 percent of whom identified her as their likely choice, versus 25 percent who cited Obama, the senator from Illinois who is African-American.

Black men who are registered Democrats were nearly evenly split, with 42 percent favoring Clinton and 46 percent favoring Obama. The sampling error of that question was plus-or-minus 8 percentage points.

Black registered Democrats also appeared more sure of themselves than did whites, with two-thirds (67 percent) of blacks saying they would definitely support whichever candidate they had said they favored, versus one-third (33 percent) who said they might change their minds.

The 26-point difference between black women and men underscores the fact that the nation's vote is divided not only by race, but also by gender, said CNN political analyst Bill Schneider. "Black women don't just vote their black identity," he said. "They also vote their identity as women."

"The 'sistah' vote is paying off handsomely for Hillary Clinton," said Democratic political strategist Donna Brazile. "It's not only getting her the women's vote. It's also getting her the black vote."

http://www.cnn.com/2007/POLITICS/10/17/p oll.blacks.democrats/

There is a new Fox news poll out as well , the aim of the poll was to test the effect of a third party run from a christian conservative , so lets hope Guiliani is the nominee and they bolt.

In a head-to-head contest, Clinton has a 4 percentage point edge over Giuliani -- 47 percent to 43 percent. Clinton has maintained a slim advantage over Giuliani for the last few months.

In a hypothetical three-way race, an unnamed Christian Conservative third party candidate receives the support of 14 percent of voters, and Clinton tops Giuliani by 10 points (44 percent to 34 percent).

Giuliani's support among Republicans drops from 79 percent in the two-way race to 60 percent when the third party Christian Conservative is included.

By a 56 percent to 35 percent margin, self-identified Born Again Christians back Giuliani over Clinton. When given the option, about a quarter of this group says they would vote for a Christian Conservative candidate -- reducing Giuliani's support by 20 points: Giuliani 36 percent, Clinton 30 percent and the Christian Conservative 26 percent.

Among conservatives, Giuliani's support falls from 57 percent in the head-to-head race against Clinton to 42 percent when a third-party conservative is included.

In other two-way matchups, the poll finds that Clinton tops McCain by 3 points, and bests both Fred Thompson and Mitt Romney by 12 points.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,3027 76,00.html  



Display:


Re: African Americans throw support behind Clinton (none / 0)

We really need to see the class/income breakdowns here among black voters.

That said, I'd much rather have the middle and lower-classes supporting me than the affluent class---even if those black affluent are exemplars that others should be emulating.

No wonder our people suffer.


by NewNoir on Wed Oct 17, 2007 at 05:45:34 PM EST

Re: African Americans throw support behind Clinton (none / 0)

I would be interested in knowing who the AA, who have voted for Republicans in the past, are supporting in this election. I would suspect, Obama. And that's a good thing.


Dare to be free.
by misscee on Thu Oct 18, 2007 at 04:50:54 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Re: African Americans throw support behind Clinton (2.00 / 2)

Deval Patrick is reportedly endorsing Obama.


by Shaun Appleby on Wed Oct 17, 2007 at 05:48:36 PM EST

Re: African Americans throw support behind Clinton (2.00 / 2)

Of course he is...but he's just another uppity Harvard-educated negro that doesn't represent the black masses like Yale-educated Hillary and her Yale & Oxford-educated black husband.

...well, that's what they'll say.


by NewNoir on Wed Oct 17, 2007 at 05:56:51 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Re: African Americans throw support behind Clinton (none / 0)

You beat them to it.


by Shaun Appleby on Wed Oct 17, 2007 at 06:01:11 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Yeah, I'm pretty disappointed. (none / 0)


by bookgrl on Wed Oct 17, 2007 at 06:11:36 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Re: African Americans throw support behind Clinton (none / 0)

Yeah, Obama does real good with those Massatoosetts Iibruls.


by horizonr on Wed Oct 17, 2007 at 06:30:37 PM EST
[ Parent ]

I hear and see a lot (2.00 / 1)

of pro-Clinton diaries on polls and inevitability, but rarely see a reason people should vote for her, other than her gender or marriage partner.    


by TomP on Wed Oct 17, 2007 at 05:50:03 PM EST

Re: I hear and see a lot (2.00 / 0)

Now that's not fair...they should also vote for her because "She's a fighter!!!"


by NewNoir on Wed Oct 17, 2007 at 05:59:20 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Re: I hear and see a lot (1.00 / 1)

A "fighter" for what?


  • The monopoly of Ruppert Murdoch?
  • Baby bonds?
  • InsuranceCompany-HMO run Health Care?
  • AIPAC?
  • The American Enterprise Insititute?
  • The Iraq Occupation continuing throughout 2017?
  • The unconstitutional U.S. Patriot Act?
  • Refusing to ban civilian-killing Cluster-Bombs?
  • The unconstitutional North American Union?
  • Keeping Military attacks against Iran "on the table"?
  • The (Rockefeller-based) Council on Foreign Relations?
  • The Military-Industrial-Complex?
  • Empire?

No Thank You



For a "surge" in Truth:  Say NO to NeoCons!!!
by DerekLarsson on Wed Oct 17, 2007 at 06:36:02 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Re: I hear and see a lot (none / 0)

she's just a fighter period

Who the hill knows what that means. But it spins good.


Dare to be free.
by misscee on Thu Oct 18, 2007 at 04:47:28 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Re: I hear and see a lot (none / 0)


She's a fibber, not a "fighter"!
She has never done one single thing that was ever politically courageous as a U.S. Senator,
and has no integrity/credibility left on any issue anymore. She is also entirely scripted,
fake, staged-managed, and totally inauthentic.


Can anyone say what she will really stand for?
By her awful U.S. Senate track-record and votes, not for you and not for me.

She is a willing captive of the War-Industry, Multinational Corporations, Monopolies, and Bush-Cheney War-Propaganda talking points.

If she happens to win, the Democratic Party will only just get trounced in 2012.  
Time for fresh blood.



For a "surge" in Truth:  Say NO to NeoCons!!!
by DerekLarsson on Thu Oct 18, 2007 at 06:40:05 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Re: I hear and see a lot (none / 0)

They should vote for her because she's "strong and tough."

ex-wrestler Chyna Doll is strong and tough but I'm not voting for her.


"If you vote between the lesser of two evils, you're still stuck with evil." - Aaron MacGruder
by Nedsdag on Thu Oct 18, 2007 at 12:57:43 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Re: I hear and see a lot (none / 0)

That is utter nonsense, unless you read here only once a week (which I am pretty sure is not the case.)  I am frankly amazed you would make such a strange and provably false proclamation.  


by georgep on Wed Oct 17, 2007 at 06:55:02 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Re: I hear and see a lot (none / 0)

Interesting, Tom.  Can you show me those diaries where we're suggesting people support Hillary because of Bill?


No Way. No How. No McCain.
by Denny Crane on Wed Oct 17, 2007 at 09:27:52 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Re: I hear and see a lot (2.00 / 0)

I'm voting for her because she's a total bad ass and I like the way she cackles.


by hwc on Wed Oct 17, 2007 at 09:49:53 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Re: I hear and see a lot (none / 0)

bullshit.  I have never seen a single diary telling people to vote for her because she is a woman or because of who her husband is and there have been plenty about other things than polls.
Your comment was a blatant lie.

ABO... Anybody but Obama. I LIKE the democratic party.

by MollieBradford on Wed Oct 17, 2007 at 10:27:38 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Re: African Americans throw support behind Clinton (2.00 / 2)

This black woman doesn't support Clinton.  


by Sonya on Wed Oct 17, 2007 at 06:00:23 PM EST

Re: African Americans throw support behind Clinton (none / 0)

Yeah, but you don't matter because you don't represent real black folks with that college-education and all that other foolishness.


by NewNoir on Wed Oct 17, 2007 at 06:14:58 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Re: African Americans throw support behind Clinton (1.66 / 3)

LOL.  Yeah, you're right.  She also can't buy me like she can buy the right reverend chicken-wings and the sell-out politicians.


by Sonya on Wed Oct 17, 2007 at 06:49:01 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Re: African Americans throw support behind Clinton (none / 0)

68 percent of black women are sell outs because they don't agree with you?


ABO... Anybody but Obama. I LIKE the democratic party.

by MollieBradford on Wed Oct 17, 2007 at 10:29:25 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Re: African Americans throw support behind Clinton (1.00 / 0)

GTFOMFWTB and learn how to read.  I wrote "sell-out politicians."


by Sonya on Thu Oct 18, 2007 at 12:20:49 AM EST
[ Parent ]

Re: African Americans throw support behind Clinton (none / 0)

the only letter I can't guess at is the T.  I am not impressed or intimidated.


ABO... Anybody but Obama. I LIKE the democratic party.

by MollieBradford on Thu Oct 18, 2007 at 01:29:50 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Re: African Americans throw support behind Clinton (2.00 / 1)

Preach sista!!


by NewNoir on Wed Oct 17, 2007 at 10:42:41 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Re: African Americans throw support behind Clinton (1.50 / 4)

This black man does.


No Way. No How. No McCain.
by Denny Crane on Wed Oct 17, 2007 at 09:28:33 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Re: African Americans throw support behind Clinton (2.00 / 1)

bluediamond - stop abusing the ratings system


vote blue in 2008
by sepulvedaj3 on Thu Oct 18, 2007 at 10:40:25 AM EST
[ Parent ]

Re: African Americans throw support behind Clinton (none / 0)

MAJOR abuse.  How did Denny Crane's comment deserve a ZERO RATE from Blue Diamond?  Should we now ZERO RATE every like comment from Obama fans?  


by georgep on Thu Oct 18, 2007 at 02:36:08 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Re: African Americans throw support behind Clinton (none / 0)

Neither does this one.

It's utter BS !


"I don't oppose all wars...what I do oppose, is a dumb war" ~ Barack Obama
by BlueDiamond on Wed Oct 17, 2007 at 11:13:37 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Re: African Americans throw support behind Clinton (none / 0)

This black woman doesn't support Clinton either.


"If you vote between the lesser of two evils, you're still stuck with evil." - Aaron MacGruder
by Nedsdag on Thu Oct 18, 2007 at 12:59:05 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Re: African Americans throw (2.00 / 2)

I'm a Black woman who doesn't support Clinton.
Neither do my two sisters or mother.

We're all for Obama.


by rikyrah on Wed Oct 17, 2007 at 06:21:55 PM EST

Re: African Americans throw (none / 0)

So what? Does this diary say Clinton got 100% support from AA women?


Hillary: We will finally have a president who doesn't mind pulling over and asking for directions. Am I right, ladies?
by areyouready on Wed Oct 17, 2007 at 06:24:25 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Re: African Americans throw (none / 0)

Charming.


by horizonr on Wed Oct 17, 2007 at 06:26:43 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Re: African Americans throw (none / 0)

Exactly,

Only a FOOL believes that 307 people represent 100 % of Black women.


"I don't oppose all wars...what I do oppose, is a dumb war" ~ Barack Obama
by BlueDiamond on Wed Oct 17, 2007 at 11:17:00 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Re: African Americans throw support behind Clinton (none / 0)

The battle for the AA vote will be won in Iowa and NH.
I will have to evaluate everything i've learned in life if Obama wins both then loses the AA vote.
by joachim on Wed Oct 17, 2007 at 06:31:31 PM EST

Re: African Americans throw support behind Clinton (none / 0)

The battle for the AA vote will be won in Iowa and NH.
I will have to evaluate everything i've learned in life if Obama wins both then loses the AA vote.

You and me both.

I honestly believe that the ONLY question on Black folks minds is

WILL WHITE PEOPLE ACTUALLY VOTE FOR OBAMA

If they get the answer to the question as YES....

I just don't see how Black folk would stop him like that.


by rikyrah on Wed Oct 17, 2007 at 11:39:48 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Re: African Americans throw support behind Clinton (none / 0)

Just an anecdotal ..the AA folks that I talk to at work who do not support Obama, say that they (politicians) are all crooked. It's like pulling teeth to engage them in the political process. Obama will have to convince many of the people that I work with to come out to the polls.

Most of my friends are undecided or haven't even begun to think about the primaries. However, my students love Obama and are tickled pink that I support him.


Dare to be free.
by misscee on Thu Oct 18, 2007 at 04:40:46 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Re: African Americans throw support behind Clinton (none / 0)

No disrespect to Hillary.  But I have to wonder how much of this is left-over affection for the Big Dog.  My mom (college-educated black woman) is/was a HUGE Bill Clinton fan.  I'm not sure who she's backing this time around.  But I've never heard her say much of anything about Hillary.

And you just can't discount the "white folks would never vote for a black president" sentiment (true or not) that the majority of black folk have ...


by moodmovesmarkets on Wed Oct 17, 2007 at 07:02:24 PM EST

Re: African Americans throw support behind Clinton (none / 0)

True or not.

Majority of Obama's numbers still come from White voters. He wouldn't be in 2nd place today without the support of Liberal white voters.


by labanman on Wed Oct 17, 2007 at 07:46:45 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Re: African Americans throw support behind Clinton (none / 0)

And you just can't discount the "white folks would never vote for a black president" sentiment (true or not) that the majority of black folk have ...

I just don't buy this at all.  Have you been to the Vietnam War Veterans Memorial in Washington, DC?  There's an amazing statue of three soldiers from that era and one of them is black.  It's very moving.  It can happen.  


by Will Graham on Wed Oct 17, 2007 at 09:59:03 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Re: African Americans throw support behind Clinton (none / 0)

My mother voted for Clinton twice and stood up for him during Monicagate but SHE'S NOT VOTING FOR HILLARY!

She cannot stand her!


"If you vote between the lesser of two evils, you're still stuck with evil." - Aaron MacGruder
by Nedsdag on Thu Oct 18, 2007 at 01:01:08 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Re: African Americans throw support behind Clinton (none / 0)

Black people are indeed thinking for themselves (yes that to you O'Reily) when picking who they want for the Democratic nomination. They're not going to support Obama just because he's black, just like women aren't supporting Hillary just because she's a woman. They are evaluating the substance and coming to the conclusion that Hillary would make a better President. You can disagree, but that's what a majority of the black population is saying.


by Christopher Lib on Wed Oct 17, 2007 at 07:28:16 PM EST

My political sense says trey is on to something (none / 0)

No Matter What We Say Now Every Black Person in America Will Vote for Obama

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/trey-ellis /no-matter-what-we-say-now_b_60369.html


by aiko on Wed Oct 17, 2007 at 07:52:47 PM EST

Re: My political sense says trey is on to somethin (none / 0)

I agree, bring it on.


by Shaun Appleby on Wed Oct 17, 2007 at 08:23:28 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Re: My political sense says trey is on to somethin (none / 0)

Thats by far the most ignorant comment ever.


vote blue in 2008
by sepulvedaj3 on Wed Oct 17, 2007 at 09:41:41 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Re: My political sense says trey is on to somethin (none / 0)

Great article. When given a difficult choice, people will follow their hearts.


Dare to be free.
by misscee on Thu Oct 18, 2007 at 04:27:48 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Re: African Americans throw support behind Clinton (none / 0)

Another CNN poll conducted by a Clinton friend. <sigh>


Hillary/Obama08
by annefrank on Wed Oct 17, 2007 at 09:21:11 PM EST

Re: African Americans throw support behind Clinton (none / 0)

Oh anne get over it.

Where was Edwards with black support? below 10%???? yea, thats what i thought too


vote blue in 2008
by sepulvedaj3 on Wed Oct 17, 2007 at 09:42:24 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Re: African Americans throw support behind Clinton (none / 0)

One of the amazing things is the vast difference in voting rates among African American men and women.

In November 2004, 5,736,000 African American men reported voting (51.8% turnout), while 8,820,000 African American women reported voting (59.8%).

(That's the general election. Who knows what the turnout rates were for primaries.)

With so many more women voting than men, it will be interesting to see how African Americans vote.


by LakersFan on Wed Oct 17, 2007 at 09:53:12 PM EST

Re: African Americans throw support behind Clinton (2.00 / 1)

Affluent and educated blacks are behind Obama.


by NewNoir on Wed Oct 17, 2007 at 10:44:47 PM EST

Re: African Americans throw support behind Clinton (none / 0)

Thats a generalization .


Educated in a small town Taught to fear Jesus in a small town Used to daydream in that small town Another born romantic that's me.
by lori on Wed Oct 17, 2007 at 10:48:35 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Re: African Americans throw support behind Clinton (none / 0)

you act as if that's a good thing for Obama....it sucks for him.


by NewNoir on Thu Oct 18, 2007 at 01:02:55 AM EST
[ Parent ]

Re: African Americans throw support behind Clinton (none / 0)

That's the truth!


"If you vote between the lesser of two evils, you're still stuck with evil." - Aaron MacGruder
by Nedsdag on Thu Oct 18, 2007 at 01:02:25 PM EST
[ Parent ]

You know, I don't think polls like this (none / 0)

are very helpful.  Look at the emotions they evoke.


by bookgrl on Wed Oct 17, 2007 at 10:51:21 PM EST

NO WE DON'T ! (none / 0)

Noone polled me.


"I don't oppose all wars...what I do oppose, is a dumb war" ~ Barack Obama
by BlueDiamond on Wed Oct 17, 2007 at 11:11:57 PM EST

Re: NO WE DON'T ! (none / 0)

Fine upstanding Americans never get polled.


by NewNoir on Thu Oct 18, 2007 at 01:08:49 AM EST
[ Parent ]

Is Alice Walker black? (2.00 / 0)

Last time I checked she was.  Her endorsement of Obama is one of the most reasoned, articulate, and emotional endorsements I've ever seen.  

http://www.barackobama.com/tv/?bclid=900 480414&bctid=1201929195


by Piuma on Wed Oct 17, 2007 at 11:57:19 PM EST


You are not logged in.

In order to post a comment, you must be logged in. If you have a member account, please log in to comment.

If not, you can make an account right here. It's quick and free.