MyDD :: January 2007 Straw Poll

January 2007 Straw Poll

by Chris Bowers, Tue Jan 09, 2007 at 12:44:37 AM EST

It is a new year, and so I am going to start these up again. Vote in the MyDD straw poll.

I think the changing field of candidates should significantly reduce ballot stuffing, considering our past difficulties with Bayh supporters. Still, there has been recorded stuffing on behalf of Edwards and Clark in the past, but hopefully conducting this late at night will help reduce that problem. Also, here is my standard plea to potential poll stuffers:

It isn't that I think stuffing is wrong. On a moral level, there is nothing wrong with it at all. It is just that I would love to see what regular readers of MyDD actually think about the 2008 Democratic primaries. Please, I urge you, do not taint this poll by sending your blog readers, you email list, your MySpace group, your Facebook group, or your Yahoo group to alter the results. Think about this for a moment--wouldn't it be better to know where your candidate stands among MyDD readers, than it would to overtly skew the results of a poll to make it seem as though MyDD readers are behind your candidate when, in fact, they are not? Don't you want to know where you candidate actually stands among MyDD readers? If I were behind one candidate, I would want to know where my candidate stood. Skewing the results tells you nothing except that you are able to skew the results.

Anyway, you can't skew the results without my knowing. I have access to every vote made in polls like this, including a history of votes in chronological order, and as such I know when stuffing is taking place. Whether that stuffing is for Clark, Edwards, Feingold, Richardson, Bayh, Gore or whoever (I have seen stuffing on behalf of every candidate I named), is it really more useful to you to have me broadcast on the front page of MyDD that you stuffed the poll than it is to know where your candidate stands among the potential contenders? Please tell me it is not.

Rise above Freeperdom. Don't stuff the poll.

Now, with that said, please vote in the January MyDD straw poll. I have included the ten candidates making the most serious moves toward running. If you don't like the choices, or think I should have included someone else, then just select "Not Sure" in the poll.

Tags: President 2008, straw polls, meta (all tags)

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Re: January 2007 Straw Poll (none / 0)

My "Not Sure" = Gore.

Which rhymes, actually.

by Eli on Tue Jan 09, 2007 at 12:49:54 AM EST

Re: January 2007 Straw Poll (none / 0)

Mine too. He is the only one right now that I would be sure enough about to put on the list.

Don't hate the media, become the media. -- Jello Biafra

by Orlando on Tue Jan 09, 2007 at 09:07:50 AM EST
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Re: January 2007 Straw Poll (none / 0)

Aside from Edwards, which I did as #1 comfortably.

Don't hate the media, become the media. -- Jello Biafra

by Orlando on Tue Jan 09, 2007 at 09:08:51 AM EST
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Re: January 2007 Straw Poll (none / 0)

I went

1 - Clark
2 - Edwards

We are going to need a serious negotiator in 2009 and having met Clark at YK06 he is the best candidate in my book. However, Clark is still on the sidelines (most frustrating).

Edwards is in the race, has Senate experience and is saying (and now doing) the right stuff in my book.

I rated 'Not Sure' above Clinton at 11th.

Rush is an orc and... Thank God losing his audience!

by LeftyLimblog on Tue Jan 09, 2007 at 09:49:04 AM EST
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Re: January 2007 Straw Poll (none / 0)

The only thing I don't like about this is that it is full rank choice, instead of just a top 3 rcv like we have for city elections in SF. The problem is that at a certain point, I have I tough time distinguishing my contempt (there are multiple DLC members) but I want to fill the whole thing out anyway because people do reverse investigation. I don't know, I think the problem has more to do with too many crappy candidates then it does with the poll.

by Bob Brigham on Tue Jan 09, 2007 at 12:53:05 AM EST

I only voted for four (none / 0)

Top choice, Edwards, followed by the three other candidates whom I would theoretically consider if for some reason Edwards left the race. I put not sure as 5th and didn't rank the rest, because there is no conceivable way I could end up supporting them in a primary.

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by desmoinesdem on Tue Jan 09, 2007 at 12:55:54 AM EST
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Re: I only voted for four (none / 0)

I know, I used to do that but then people cared about who was the first eliminated and equating it to the most hated.

by Bob Brigham on Tue Jan 09, 2007 at 01:30:37 AM EST
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Why not draft someone? (none / 0)

If you think there are too many crappy candidates, then draft a good one. :)

by jhlinko on Tue Jan 09, 2007 at 01:16:59 AM EST
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Re: Why not draft someone? (none / 0)

I don't think they are all crappy, but there is some dead weight at the bottom of the barrel.

I'm busy with a different draft where I can be far more effective, but with the CA Gov and Speaker both on the same page with moving the primary to Feb, I'm sure I'll start fighting for somebody as the internet is the only rational way for a candidate who doesn't suck to be able to win in CA.

by Bob Brigham on Tue Jan 09, 2007 at 01:28:04 AM EST
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Re: Why not draft someone? (none / 0)

Yep, fair enough, there's definitely some dead weight in the list.

If you don't mind me asking, what draft are you involved with? (unless it's something still not public).

Just curious...

by jhlinko on Tue Jan 09, 2007 at 01:30:21 AM EST
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Re: Why not draft someone? (none / 0)

CA-10, which I why I can have far more of an effect. I am in no way involved in any presidential effort.

by Bob Brigham on Tue Jan 09, 2007 at 01:32:37 AM EST
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Re: Why not draft someone? (none / 0)

Good luck with that -- and kudos to you for being proactive. Too many people just kvetch on the sidelines.

by jhlinko on Tue Jan 09, 2007 at 01:38:27 AM EST
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Re: Why not draft someone? (3.00 / 1)

Good luck. I can't wait to see Tauscher go down. What will Wittman and From say? They can pound sand for all I care.

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by Calvin Jones and the 13th Apostle on Tue Jan 09, 2007 at 02:05:03 AM EST
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Re: January 2007 Straw Poll (none / 0)

I voted a full ranking, with Not Sure coming in 4th. I think ranking someone worse than a complete unknown means something.

Start Running Better Polls

by bolson on Tue Jan 09, 2007 at 01:47:11 AM EST
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interesting! (none / 0)

luckilly at the time of this posting all 3 of my top 3 are doing well... i'm wondering where the Clark love has gone though?

-C.

by neutron on Tue Jan 09, 2007 at 01:17:38 AM EST

Re: interesting! (none / 0)

perhaps Clark supporters are beginning to think he isn't running after all? That's what I'm starting to think about him anyhow.

"Pray for the dead and fight like hell for the living" - Mother Jones

by Jambon on Tue Jan 09, 2007 at 01:35:58 AM EST
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he doesn't seem to have any organization in IA (none / 0)

I have been surprised about that--I had heard that Clark regretted getting in the race late and skipping Iowa last time around. He did some campaigning for some Iowa Democrats last year, but I haven't heard any gossip about him putting together an organization here.

Maybe he figures Edwards is too far ahead in Iowa at this point for Clark to compete, which is probably right.

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by desmoinesdem on Tue Jan 09, 2007 at 01:40:46 AM EST
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Re: he doesn't seem to have any organization in IA (none / 0)

Looking back, Clark benefited from getting in late last time: his NH & SC numbers were quite strong before people wanted to get the primaries over and rally behind Kerry. Up until the week of Kerry's Iowa win, Clark was running in first or second in NH.

The major mistake Clark made was not going into Iowa, where he could have landed in the top two, if not three. From there, he could've done well in NH and SC, won Oklahoma (which he did), New Mexico, Tennessee, and Virginia, fared strong in Wisconsin, and that would have been enough to go into the March Super-Tuesday.

Basically, Clark can come in late this summer, run hard at Iowa, and less-so in NH (people know him there already), and come out of those two contests very strong.

Just a thought.

by jrb1968 on Tue Jan 09, 2007 at 11:09:07 AM EST
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Re: he doesn't seem to have any organization in IA (none / 0)

I've heard enough gossip to suggest that Clark will make a real effort in Iowa as part of an 08 run. At least I can honestly say that I've heard enough gossip to be hopeful that he will. No one is too far ahead in Iowa to be competed against while the contest is still over a year away. Edwards was nowhere, so to speak, in Iowa a year out, and a month ahead of the Iowa vote Edwards was in low to middle single digits. Gephardt was way out in front in Iowa at one point. A great deal can change in a year.

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by Tom Rinaldo on Tue Jan 09, 2007 at 02:07:26 PM EST
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My ballot (none / 0)

1st    Edwards
2nd    Obama
3rd    Clark
4th    Richardson
5th    Not Sure
6th    Dodd
7th    Vilsack
8th    Biden
9th    Clinton
10th    Kucinich
11th    Gravel

Regardless of how my beliefs line up with Kucinich, the man is not a serious candidate. That's why I ranked him even below Hillary.

by PsiFighter37 on Tue Jan 09, 2007 at 01:24:56 AM EST

The only polls (none / 0)

I have ever suggested anyone stuff are the unscientific and mostly meaningless ones at various mainstream media websites.

We should all respect the straw polls like the ones here and over at DailyKos.

"Pray for the dead and fight like hell for the living" - Mother Jones

by Jambon on Tue Jan 09, 2007 at 01:30:48 AM EST

Man, this is way too addictive... (none / 0)

Chris, with this late night post, you just guaranteed I'm gonna oversleep tomorrow. ;)

by jhlinko on Tue Jan 09, 2007 at 01:40:12 AM EST

Re: January 2007 Straw Poll (none / 0)

I hedged between Edwards and Obama, but ultimately chose Edwards... I really don't know why, I don't support either as strongly as I supported Feingold in the past, but these 2 are generally good progressives and electable, so really it won't matter much to me if either of them are picked.

Biden got 11th, as usual.

by KainIIIC on Tue Jan 09, 2007 at 01:45:44 AM EST

Re: January 2007 Straw Poll (none / 0)

Is Obama really a good progressive? How do you figure? Nothing in his Senate voting record shows it, and he frequently goes out of his way to abuse the generic Democratic party on meta issues and pander to the mythical 'center' in speeches. He could just as easily be using his platform to build up the party. I'm increasingly viewing him as a very selfish person.

Gore would be my first choice. I voted Edwards, because I do like the man (and his wife), and he is unquestionably a progressive populist. And he doesn't talk meta in speeches to the general public.

I think Clark supporters are running out of steam because Clark hasn't been as clear about his desire for the job as have Obama and Edwards. But Clark is my second choice.

by lightyearsfromhome on Tue Jan 09, 2007 at 09:45:41 AM EST
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Re: January 2007 Straw Poll (none / 0)

Obama may not be the flag carrier Feingold is, but he appears genuinely concerned with good policy. Especially on issues that fly under the radar.

Hilzoy had a good rundown on this.

http://obsidianwings.blogs.com/obsidian_ wings/2006/10/barack_obama.html

by pipe on Tue Jan 09, 2007 at 10:38:58 AM EST
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Re: January 2007 Straw Poll (none / 0)

Bullshit. Obama has one of the most progressive voting records in the Senate, more so than Edwards ever had. Why do you lie about his record? What is your agenda?

The history of the left is a history of purists betraying the progressive movement so that they can feel good about their righteous selves.

by Populism2008 on Tue Jan 09, 2007 at 06:45:07 PM EST
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BetterPolls.com (none / 0)

Please release the full vote data, or run the next poll on BetterPolls.com so that we can see more than just the IRV results, which are a poor representation of the data. We're only getting a tiny window on how people voted this way.

I made BetterPolls.com, so if there are any features you think are missing which are a reason not to use it, I'd love to know so that I can fix it.

Start Running Better Polls

by bolson on Tue Jan 09, 2007 at 01:50:47 AM EST

Please run separate poll with Gore in it (none / 0)

I suspect the results of that one would be enlightening. As for the current poll, I see no one worth voting for yet.

"We are building a political movement - not one that wields the power of lobbyists and corporate interests, but the power of millions... who seek change." -Dean

by Jim in Chicago on Tue Jan 09, 2007 at 02:05:16 AM EST

Re: Please run separate poll with Gore in it (none / 0)

Not taking a shot at Gore here, but don't you think the separate polls with the addition of just one candidate are biased? It's intersting to see, but it's sensationalism. Imagine a poll that was prefaced with, "And here's your dream presidential strawpoll featuring John Kerry."

Yes, Gore's not Kerry, etc. etc. -- that's not the point: this is an example of the premise. If he's in the poll, he should be in the regular one. If people want to vote for him, than they will. And he probably won't perform as strong because he's not declared and leaning more away from running than towards it. So, the less-than-usual performance can be brushed off with a "Well, he's not even in the race." or it can be trumped up with "He's still registering and he's not even in the race." But a seperate poll inflates his actual support.

by jrb1968 on Tue Jan 09, 2007 at 11:24:21 AM EST
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Of course I would rather (none / 0)

for Gore to be in the main poll! But that isn't going to happen until Gore says more than "I haven't completely ruled out a run."

As for your Kerry example, you could announce Kerry's inclusion any way you like, it wouldn't add to his total.

"We are building a political movement - not one that wields the power of lobbyists and corporate interests, but the power of millions... who seek change." -Dean

by Jim in Chicago on Wed Jan 17, 2007 at 12:29:21 AM EST
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Re: January 2007 Straw Poll (none / 0)

I continue to be mystified by the support Kucinich gets....

by MNPundit on Tue Jan 09, 2007 at 02:07:43 AM EST

Re: January 2007 Straw Poll (none / 0)

I continue to be saddened by the support Kucinich doesn't get. I know too many people who say he has the best ideals, but they won't vote for him. Rankings polls such as this one with IRV on the back end are supposed to get around that. I wish I could see all the data, I wonder how many ballots had Kucinich ranked 2nd to 4th or so that we don't get to see.

Start Running Better Polls

by bolson on Tue Jan 09, 2007 at 03:50:28 PM EST
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Re: January 2007 Straw Poll (none / 0)

I voted Edwards as first choice and Kucinich second.
I wonder why Kucinich does not do better at mydd.
He's very progressive, I think we agree with much of his policies, so what is it?

They feed they Lion and he comes.

by bmelz on Tue Jan 09, 2007 at 03:55:32 PM EST
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Re: January 2007 Straw Poll (none / 0)

He is the definition of unelectable. Not much point in choosing a candidate that could not compete in the general election.

And yes, "electability" is a real factor and describes actual empirical properties.

The history of the left is a history of purists betraying the progressive movement so that they can feel good about their righteous selves.

by Populism2008 on Tue Jan 09, 2007 at 06:46:27 PM EST
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Re: January 2007 Straw Poll (none / 0)

"Electability", is a word that is not exactly definable but we all know it; I too sense it in Kucinich. I guess I feel guilty; his policies are very much the ones I want for the next president, though it will not be him.
He still might play an important role in the Iowa debates; he could force the others to deal with issues that they rather not, especially Iraq but also health care or other items on the progressive agenda that stall in congress this year.
He is one us and he will be on the stage in '08.

They feed they Lion and he comes.

by bmelz on Tue Jan 09, 2007 at 10:12:40 PM EST
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Not guilty at all (none / 0)

After studying his tenure as an executive, he needs to stay as far away from that as possible until he demonstrates that he will not screw it up.

by MNPundit on Fri Jan 12, 2007 at 07:23:36 PM EST
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Re: January 2007 Straw Poll (3.00 / 1)

too bad clinton never sees these on line polls.

by vwcat on Tue Jan 09, 2007 at 02:34:43 AM EST

Re: January 2007 Straw Poll (3.00 / 1)

Why? We don't reflect her base. Her base is older, more female, and more ethnically diverse than netroots readership is.

by Adam B on Tue Jan 09, 2007 at 09:44:25 AM EST
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Re: January 2007 Straw Poll (none / 0)

I agree. But I think she could do with making her case amongst the netroots, finding some common ground because if she wins the nomination she'll need all the help she can get. And at the moment the general sense across the main sites seems to be that very few people would campaign for her, though most would vote democratic regardless of the names on the ticket.

In terms of their voting records there is very little between Edwards, Obama and HRC. If people are only willing to support someone who was against the war from the very start then fair enough but that might well mean having to abstain in the presidential election.

HRC is not a progressive but she has some progressive tendencies and she could do a lot more to bond with the netroots in areas where there is agreement.

by kundalini on Tue Jan 09, 2007 at 10:43:23 AM EST
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Re: January 2007 Straw Poll (none / 0)

She's hired good internet staff, and I'm sure the outreach will happen. She has a significant base out there, and if we can't hear them or find ways to speak to them, January 2008 may surprise a lot of people.

by Adam B on Tue Jan 09, 2007 at 10:46:26 AM EST
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Re: January 2007 Straw Poll (none / 0)

"Sure" and "Gore" possibly rhyme if you're from Alabama (and you make "sure" into two syllables), but otherwise... no they don't.

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by NCDem on Tue Jan 09, 2007 at 02:38:45 PM EST
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Re: January 2007 Straw Poll (3.00 / 1)

My top choice is Gore. I think you should include him even though he's not declared. After all, you include Obama, and he hasn't really declared yet, either.
Gore is the big kahuna, and if he were to enter, the bottom tier would all drop out for lack of oxygen. And the bottom tier is about 8 of the candidates on your list.

I'd vote for Kucinich higher, but alas, he will never be considered a serious candidate.

Bob in HI

by Bob Schacht on Tue Jan 09, 2007 at 03:35:32 AM EST

Re: January 2007 Straw Poll (none / 0)

I may be misremembering things, but even if Obama hasn't officially declared, he's been dropping the thickest, heaviest hints ever. That's the difference; also, Gore has said that he doesn't plan on running (though that statement is maybe a year old, and things change.)

by falsified on Tue Jan 09, 2007 at 01:27:34 PM EST
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Dodd? (none / 0)

I know v. little about Dodd--but everything I -do- know is good.

Anyone have an informed opinion about him?

by BingoL on Tue Jan 09, 2007 at 08:33:53 AM EST

Re: Dodd? (none / 0)

Somewhere I read a a recent speech of his calling for repeal of the Patriot Act and making other strong civil liberties statements. That's why I put him at the top of my list, together with Obama and Edwards. I haven't bought into any of them yet, but these three have aspects I like.

by joyful alternative on Tue Jan 09, 2007 at 11:35:33 AM EST
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Re: January 2007 Straw Poll (none / 0)

Edwards is doing well - reward for taking the race seriously. Contrast with say Clark who seems to have left it too late once again. If it is not clear your candidate is running, you start to consider other options and may not return should your original choice re-enter the race. I think Gore may find the same thing happening to a fraction of his support.

by kundalini on Tue Jan 09, 2007 at 09:02:47 AM EST

"Left it too late again"? (none / 0)

For God's sake, it's only January 07!

There's plenty of time for Clark to jump in. There are plenty of campaign people still uncommitted to campaigns. There's a full year until the first caucus.

Last time, only Gephardt really had much of anything on the ground in Iowa this early, but it was a strong organization made up of people he had worked with and trusted for many years. And while I didn't any of them personally, I would guess they were dedicated and competent. How much good did it do him in the end?

Obviously it takes a good, solid staff to be competitive in any state's primary or caucus. But what will ultimately matter most is the quality of the candidate.

I think Wes Clark will be very competitive this time around.

by hf jai on Tue Jan 09, 2007 at 10:54:24 AM EST
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I think the decisions by some big names... (3.00 / 1)

...to get out before they even got in argues that the race did indeed start a lot earlier than a lot of people expected.

John Edwards 2008

by MeanBoneII on Tue Jan 09, 2007 at 01:21:55 PM EST
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Re: I think the decisions by some big names... (none / 0)

Oh I agree the race is on. Edwards has been campaigning since Nov 3, 2004. So has Clinton, altho she could cover it with a Senate race.

But that is very different indeed from saying it's too late to get in.

Besides, I think Clark has started. He's lining up money and contacts before he goes formal is all. He already has grassroots support. Nothing like he'll need, but more than enough to grow.

by hf jai on Tue Jan 09, 2007 at 05:45:30 PM EST
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Re: January 2007 Straw Poll (none / 0)

I'm in the minority here, but I ranked Edwards 11th. Hell will freeze over before I vote for a personal injury lawyer.

NJ Hussein Independent

by NJIndependent on Tue Jan 09, 2007 at 09:12:45 AM EST

Re: January 2007 Straw Poll (3.00 / 2)

Why's that? You don't like lawyers who represent those wronged by large corporations? Corporations that would otherwise continue their unsafe practices because all they care about is profits?

The best example would be the case he took on with the young girl and the pool filter. The grate to the filter had come off and the girl had become stuck on it. The extreme suction pulled out her intestines. She has to spend the rest of her life with a bag attached to her body.

The company knew about the fault in their product as they had gotten many previous reports of the fault and the risk involved, but they didn't care.

They paid a lot more attention after the bad publicity from that case and the large settlement John Edwards got for the girl and her family for her ongoing medical care, suffering and the companies gross negligence and indifference.

That's standing up for the wronged little guy against the big guy's abuses. That's what the Democratic party believes in.

by Quinton on Tue Jan 09, 2007 at 05:08:28 PM EST
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Re: January 2007 Straw Poll (none / 0)

Edwards
Obama
Clinton
Biden
Kucinich
Clark

No one else gets a vote at this time. Some I do not care for some(Richardson) and others I do not have enough info.

by Gordie on Tue Jan 09, 2007 at 10:02:58 AM EST

My first choice is Al Gore (none / 0)

Instead, Edwards got it.

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by stormbear on Tue Jan 09, 2007 at 10:18:57 AM EST

Re: January 2007 Straw Poll (none / 0)

I'd vote for Howard Dean except he's not running.

I'd vote for Al Gore except he's not listed in the poll.

After that I haven't made up my mind amongst the many listed here and a few not listed.

I voted for "Not Sure" as my top choice.

At this time in 2003 I had an opening favorite but had decided to spend the first half of the year investigating all the candidates to see who stood out, who caught fire, who really seemed to understand what leadership is all about.

Near the end of the summer I spent a weekend making my analysis and jumped into Howard Dean's campaign with both feet.

This year will probably progress along a similar path.

Over the coming months we shall see what we shall see.

The 10,000 Things

by Andrew C White on Tue Jan 09, 2007 at 11:12:39 AM EST

Re: January 2007 Straw Poll (none / 0)

Edwards
Obama

Torn between the two!!

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by nanasooz on Tue Jan 09, 2007 at 11:46:39 AM EST

Re: January 2007 Straw Poll (none / 0)

Edwards has overtaken Clark for my vote, primarily for the reason cited upstream that he's not in the race and Edwards is out there making his case and a good impression.

by johnalive on Tue Jan 09, 2007 at 12:15:25 PM EST

Re: January 2007 Straw Poll (none / 0)

for the poll to be relivent you would probally have to skew the poll based on several factors. name reconition,money,network, and support outside the netroots. Which would probally give Clinton a +25% skew, Edwards a -12%, Clark a + 3%,Richardson a +12%, Gravel would probally become nil, Kunnich +2%,Obama -3%,Biden,Dodd and Vilsack would probally also become nil.

Putting it
Edwards at 26%
Clinton at 24%
Clark at 16%
Obama at 14%
Richardson at 13%
Kunnich at 5%
and Biden,Dodd,Vilsack and Gravel at nothing or so small it's not mesurable.(well there is 4% margin i'm attibuting to al of them together with not sure because people general are)

by orin76 on Tue Jan 09, 2007 at 12:50:48 PM EST

OK ... (none / 0)

... that must be the new math.

John Edwards 2008

by MeanBoneII on Tue Jan 09, 2007 at 01:20:06 PM EST
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Re: January 2007 Straw Poll (none / 0)

The main problem John Edwards has is he is tagged with two things being part of the Kerry/Edwards ticket which is still hanging around his neck and the fact and as stupid as this founds a lot of americans think that John Edwards is the guy who speaks to the dead, even among Democrats who vote in primaries.

by orin76 on Tue Jan 09, 2007 at 02:52:30 PM EST

Re: January 2007 Straw Poll (none / 0)

opps that should have been sounds

by orin76 on Tue Jan 09, 2007 at 02:53:07 PM EST

The Story is Clinton (none / 0)

I think the story of this & virtually all of the netroots polls is how poorly Sen. Clinton does. Sure everyone knows her and fair minded people respect her but the lack of enthusiasm is overwhelming.

by howardpark on Tue Jan 09, 2007 at 08:44:09 PM EST

Re: January 2007 Straw Poll (3.00 / 1)

Who's Gravel? I've never heard the name before, unless it's actually a vote for a bunch of little rocks.

by Craig in VA on Wed Jan 10, 2007 at 08:26:30 AM EST

Re: January 2007 Straw Poll (3.00 / 0)

I see the Clarkies got the email about the poll

by sndeak on Wed Jan 10, 2007 at 09:37:38 AM EST

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