The Public Versus Bipartisanship

Via politicalwire I came upon this CNN poll.  These are policies listed by favor/oppose/no opinion.

Allowing the government to negotiate with drug companies to attempt to lower the price of prescription drugs for some senior citizens:  87/12/1

Raising the minimum wage: 85/14/1

Cutting interest rates on federal loans to college students: 84/15/1

Creating an independent panel to oversee ethics in Congress: 79/19/2

Making significant changes in U.S. policy in Iraq: 77/20/3

Reducing the amount of influence lobbyists have in congressional decisions: 75/21/4

Implementing all of the anti-terrorism recommendations made by the 9/11 Commission: 64/26/10

Maintaining the current Social Security system to prevent the creation of private investment accounts: 63/32/6

Funding embryonic stem cell research: 62/32/6

Reducing some federal tax breaks for oil companies: 49/49/2

Changing the rules to allow Congress to create new spending programs only if taxes are raised or spending on other programs is cut: 41/54/5

The only proposal here that has any real public opposition is PAYGO, and I'd just love to see the Republicans opposing us on that.  I'm surprised that the oil company tax breaks polls so low, and I have to assume that the question was asked incorrectly.  If Chuck Schumer and Rahm Emanuel were demagogue-ing on it, you know it polled well.

Nine out of eleven of these has more than 2:1 public support.  Six out of eleven have 3:1 public support, and four out of eleven has 4:1 public support.  This is a popular agenda.

In other words, the arguments about bipartisanship put out by Bush, business lobbyists, insiders, and the pundits are just an excuse to ignore the public.



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probably right on corporate lobbyists (none / 0)

After all they are the only ones who have gotten any legislation through in the last 6 years.  The only "people powered/public opinion" thing I can think of is a, now not funded, border fence (agree or no, the polls are about 80% for).

That is amazing that the big tax giveaways to big oil and their repeal would not be more popular...

but I'm thrilled that a 100 hour agenda is not only critical things (9/11 commission recommendations) but on where the overall public overwhelmingly agrees.  Very hopeful start.


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by Robert Oak on Wed Jan 03, 2007 at 09:06:04 PM EST

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by gragrapa on Sun Apr 15, 2007 at 03:19:32 AM EST
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Dare I suggest, after the election victories and this poll, that we have a mandate for nine of 11?  


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by hilltopper on Wed Jan 03, 2007 at 09:20:22 PM EST

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Bush is still lecturing us on morality and duty to the nation after he was gotten us into a bloody war just to get himself reelected.  

We ought to remind Bush that the burden of duty is on him.  

The United States is not the Bush/Cheney fiefdom.  The voters have spoken and Bush needs to join the American people.


by Hellmut on Wed Jan 03, 2007 at 09:31:27 PM EST

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Agree with you on the Repubs and PayGo but I don't understand why the public opposes it.  Probably the idea of raising taxes, any taxes.  

There is no free lunch which is why I always supported PayGo.  You want to cut taxes or expand programs, figure out how to finance it.


by John Mills on Wed Jan 03, 2007 at 10:24:20 PM EST

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My guess is that they really don't understand PayGo.  

Personally, I would oppose it as well if we had a system where we divided the budget into investment and consumption (or capital budget).  Expenditures which will ultimately save money shouldn't be viewed the same way as outright consumption.  I'd borrow money to immunize children, for example, since it would save a lot more money in the long term.  

That all being said... back here on planet Earth, I see no realistic possibility there will be this kind of change any time soon.  So in the meantime, PayGo seems decent option.

Once again, of course, we take a good idea, and give it a monumentally non-catchy framing.  "PayGo?"  For goodness sake, why can't we come up with terms like "death tax," but for the good guys?


by jhlinko on Wed Jan 03, 2007 at 11:27:06 PM EST
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Agreed on the term PayGo.  It has been around for close to 20 years going back to Bush I and the Dems are probably just being intellectually lazy by not changing it.


by John Mills on Wed Jan 03, 2007 at 11:41:39 PM EST
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Yeah, I think you're right.   I'm betting they just assumed that since it had been around, a new term wouldn't work.

But what drives me crazy is... I've been working in Dem politics for over a decade, I've got a master's degree in public policy/economics, I'm a former financial analyst, and still... even I hadn't heard the friggin term.   ;)

I'm willing to take a wild guess, and bet no more than 2% of Americans know of it.  

Of course, I suppose I should stop bitching, get off my ass, and try to think of a better term, eh?    :)

Side note:  I hate "global warming," which actually sounds quite pleasant.  I much prefer "global meltdown."   But.... that's another subject altogether.  


by jhlinko on Thu Jan 04, 2007 at 09:31:40 AM EST
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I worked on the Hill through the mid-1990s and PAYGO was really big in the early 1990s when the deficit was through the roof sort of like now.  The rules remained in effect during the Clinton Admin but after surpluses appeared no one discussed it since there was plenty of money to finance things.  After Bush took over, the Rs scuttled PAYGO and then Kerry tried to resurrect it.

I agree that we could name it something much better but it goes to the general problem of the Dems - we think like policy wonks while Repubs think like marketers.


by John Mills on Thu Jan 04, 2007 at 09:58:03 AM EST
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The Public! (3.00 / 1)

Word! It's about time.


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by Josh Koenig on Wed Jan 03, 2007 at 10:25:01 PM EST

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I agree that the problem on tax breaks for oil companies may be its phrasing.  "Reducing some federal tax breaks for oil companies."  The word "some" is potentially devisive.  Some people may say they oppose it because they want to reduce all (not some) tax breaks on oil companies.  I wonder how the question would poll if the word "some" was removed.


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by gunnar on Wed Jan 03, 2007 at 11:42:40 PM EST

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The main thing to notice is that WE represent a SUPERMAJORITY of Americans on the issues.  Think about that.  

Conservatism is a fringe ideology ranging from the 7-33% on their ACTUAL positions.


by bigdavefromqueens on Thu Jan 04, 2007 at 12:25:08 AM EST

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The oil question is flawed.

Some people may want to reduce ALL tax breaks for oil companies and see the inclusion of the word some as still supporting oil tax breaks.

A better question might be:

Should we eliminate government handouts to Big OIl companies like Exxon/Mobil?

I suspect we get a yes from over 70%.


by bigdavefromqueens on Thu Jan 04, 2007 at 12:28:18 AM EST

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The public is for it, but after the snow job, they will be against it.  I hope that along with the legislation there is also a PR effort to remind the public that they are in favor of these things before they are spun by the GOP.


by bruh21 on Thu Jan 04, 2007 at 12:29:04 AM EST

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The only thing I'm concerned about is the independent ethics review panel. It may have unexpected consequences and no one expects the Spanish Inquisition! I think transparancy and publicity should serve us better. If everyone knew where "Dollar Bill's" cold cash came from and how it got there he might be unemployed now.


by shirt on Thu Jan 04, 2007 at 12:31:28 AM EST

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Despite calls for greater bipartisanship, centrism, and civility, I think progressives must thoroughly reject and aggressively counter those appeals that actually promote the right's narrow and destructive agenda. In particular, we should be alert to ongoing conservative efforts to exploit Americans' core concerns about issues of vulnerability, injustice, distrust, superiority, and helplessness. Below I've put together a list of ten appeals to watch for, and I provide details and specific examples of their use in an online video entitled "Dangerous Ideas: How Conservatives Exploit Our Five Core Concerns" available at http://www.eidelsonconsulting.com/blog/2 006/09/how_conservatives_exploit_our.htm l

In the weeks and months immediately ahead, many right-wing leaders in Washington (and elsewhere) will continue to claim that:

  1. Their current or future actions are necessary in order to protect the public from dire threats. (Vulnerability)
  2. The policies promoted by others will create new dangers and thereby make the public less safe. (Vulnerability)
  3. Their actions are necessary as a response to others' wrongdoing and in order to prevent even greater injustices from occurring. (Injustice)
  4. Criticism of their policies is unjust and their critics are therefore the ones guilty of wrongdoing. (Injustice)
  5. Their actions are required by the opposition's dishonesty and reflect their own integrity. (Distrust)
  6. Those opposed to their policies are disloyal, misguided, or lacking in good judgment. (Distrust)
  7. The people they represent are special, and their policies are based on high moral principles. (Superiority)
  8. Those disadvantaged by their actions are contemptible and undeserving of consideration. (Superiority)
  9. They persevere and succeed when faced with obstacles and their actions empower the people. (Helplessness)
  10. Their setbacks and failures could not have been avoided, and they are therefore blameless. (Helplessness)


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by Roy Eidelson on Thu Jan 04, 2007 at 06:51:34 AM EST

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Boy, if it weren't for prejudice and fear, we'd be a one party country.


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