Thoughts On The 2008 Democratic Primary Calendar

While I do not know how up to date it is, wikipedia currently lists the 2008 Democratic primary and caucus schedule as follows:
  • January 14, 2008 - Iowa
  • January 19, 2008 - Nevada
  • January 22, 2008 - New Hampshire*
  • January 29, 2008 - South Carolina
  • February 5, 2008 - Alabama, Arizona, Arkansas[1], Delaware, Missouri, New Mexico, North Carolina, Utah
Other states could soon follow the pack and hold their primaries on February 5th, such as Illinois.

One of the things that strikes me about this calendar is just how many "home states" there are in the early going. In addition to a possible Illinois primary for Obama on February 5th, Vilsack is from Iowa, Clark is from Arkansas, Biden is from Delaware, Richardson is from New Mexico, and Edwards is from North Carolina. Virtually every candidate could have the benefit of an early home state. In fact, there are roughly as many non-home states (seven) as there are home states (five or six), and the home states tend to be much larger than the non-home states.

All of these early home states have the potential of keeping a number of candidates afloat after February 5th. After all, it takes only one victory to release federal matching funds (that is, if anyone uses them). Also, the large number of home states could create a fractured process where a number of different candidates score early victories, thus reducing the prospect of an early, blowout frontrunner. Further, having four early states instead of just two could create conflicting "momentum." With Nevada only five days after Iowa, and New Hampshire only three days after Nevada, it seems much more likely that no one candidate will sweep the early states in 2008, ala Kerry in Iowa and New Hampshire in 2004. Combine all of this with the potential for three strong frontrunners in Clinton, Edwards, and Obama, and there is a real prospect for a much more drawn out nominating process in 2008 than there was in 2004. While we are almost certain to know the Republican nominee on February 6th, due to their rather extreme frontloading, it might take a while on the Democratic side to end up with a presumptive nominee.

Perhaps, because I am a political junkie, I am just trying to convince myself that the Democratic nomination process has a very real chance to continue on, in a meaningful way, after February 5th. Maybe the changes to the primary calendar don't matter much, because in the end there are no significant difference of opinion among Democrats in Iowa and Democrats in Nevada. Maybe there are no longer any clear voting blocks among the primary electorate that could allow candidates to stay afloat despite poor showing in early states, ala Gore and Jackson back in 1988. Maybe Democratic primary voters don't really see a big difference among the leading candidates and, craving electability, they are willing to line up behind whoever appears to be a winner following Iowa. Maybe news coverage of primary elections has grown so thin, and civic engagement has reached such a low point, that most primary voters don't even know about the main differences between the leading candidates.

Or maybe, just maybe, the cards will fall into place and 2008 will be the most rollicking, up and down Democratic primary season in decades. I certainly hope so. I don't believe that a drawn out primary season would hurt the eventual Democratic nominee, since s/he would get a lot more free media, and have much more time to set up a battle-hardened, national operation. Thus, right now, since I am not strongly behind any of the horses in the race, the best I can hope for is the racing of the horses to be interesting.



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Re: Thoughts On The 2008 Democratic Primary Calend (none / 0)

Synchronicity.  I just posted a link on the post below about an article that showed up on MSNBC today reporting on Gov. Schwarzenegger undertaking an effort to move the 2008 primary in California to February.


"If you don't care about everybody, you don't care about anybody." --Ethan Mordden
by prodigal on Wed Jan 10, 2007 at 07:55:59 PM EST

Missed one Chris (none / 0)

Edwards grew up in South Carolina and lives in North Carolina.

Add to that the early lead in volunteers and poll advantages in Iowa and Nevada and you have a strong campaign.


BlueNC - Progressive NC Politics
by Robert P on Wed Jan 10, 2007 at 09:12:10 PM EST
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California is going to go early February, which will force candidates to embrace the internet as the winner will probably spend $20 million that doesn't end up in the math based on the above CW.


by Bob Brigham on Wed Jan 10, 2007 at 08:11:54 PM EST

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Hopefully this will be to Clinton's disadvantage. With all of these home states so early it might deprive her campaign of the momentum it would need to lock the nomination up early.


by who threw da cat on Wed Jan 10, 2007 at 08:22:55 PM EST

Arkansas is also a Clinton home state (none / 0)

Don't think that Bill won't be on the back roads of Arkansas meeting with every dem he ever helped out with anything.

Clark is not a lock in Arkansas if the Big Dog gets down and dirty on the campaign trail.


BlueNC - Progressive NC Politics
by Robert P on Wed Jan 10, 2007 at 09:11:07 PM EST
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Also, Illinois is home state for both Clinton and (none / 0)

Obama.  So it could be interesting.  As an Illinois resident, I'm thrilled with the prospect of an early primary.  I'm so tired of not having a say in the Democratic nominee.  In 2004 I voted for Dean as a protest,since by March 16, Kerry had it locked up.


by Embee on Wed Jan 10, 2007 at 10:32:45 PM EST
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Is there a state on the list Hillary *isn't* from? (none / 0)

Seriously.  Illinois, Arkansas, New York... if she had been the nominee in 2004, she would have bought a house in Ohio and gone on a "listening tour" just to suck up to voters there.


"It's not enough to say you'll be ready from Day One - you have to be right from Day One."
by schroeder on Thu Jan 11, 2007 at 11:02:20 AM EST
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I think this does have the potential to be a more drawn-out process, but ... it could all change. The Democratic electorate was desperate to find someone that could beat Bush. There's not quite the same dynamic now.

And I really don't see the field narrowing too much. I think there will be four viable candidates for quite a while (Clinton, Obama, Edwards, and Richardson), with each having an area of strength too strong to be knocked out easily. And there's no easy path to insurgency, like Dean had.

But then, maybe the money/institutional support for Hillary will start to tell when she gets her campaign going, and the oxygen will be cut off from all but one other challenger, with a third struggling to make the cut. I don't know ... that's usually the way it works, I guess.

But the Internet allows more support diffused to more places than before. So, who knows? Without one dominant Internet front-runner like Dean, who knows how it will play out on the Internet? Edwards is doing well, but he pretty much has the field to himself now ... we'll see how it goes when he's challenged.

Fascinating stuff ... and more equivocation in this one post of mine than you can shake a stick at.


by BriVT on Wed Jan 10, 2007 at 08:37:47 PM EST

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Frankly, after Iowa, voters cease to really control the process, because voters in subsequent states are deluged by a waves of free media in support of the Iowa winner.


by blueflorida on Wed Jan 10, 2007 at 08:42:38 PM EST

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A protracted primary process could also backfire if it ends up being the sort of vicious, made-to-order-for-moderate-Repubs primary that California just put on display.  I think that the netroots have an opportunity to have the most impact on that specific point- keeping things on the issues, and being aggressively loud when things aren't.


by Lucas O'Connor on Wed Jan 10, 2007 at 09:07:53 PM EST

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Wouldn't Arkansas be Hillary's?


by b1oody8romance7 on Wed Jan 10, 2007 at 09:10:24 PM EST

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Even if it is, keep chalking up more and more early states to the home field advantage.
by Chris Bowers on Wed Jan 10, 2007 at 10:07:35 PM EST
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When should Gore get in?


by mrobinsong on Wed Jan 10, 2007 at 10:35:18 PM EST

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I hope the primary season goes on a long time.  As long as they stick to padded truncheons and leave the knives sheathed, a long primary season is just what we need - lots of focus on competing Democratic ideas.  Even if they do get nasty with each other, it still toughens up the eventual nominee.


by libdevil on Wed Jan 10, 2007 at 10:48:07 PM EST

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Hopefully McCain (or whoever knocks him off) will sew it up early, so the Dem race becomes a contest to see who can denounce him the most full-throatedly.


by Gpack3 on Wed Jan 10, 2007 at 11:15:28 PM EST
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I would giggle like a little child if Obama won Iowa, Clinton won NH, Edwards won SC, and Richardson won NV. That probably won't happen, but it would be fun as hell.


by Gpack3 on Wed Jan 10, 2007 at 11:13:52 PM EST

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Oh I'm with you there, and Chris as well.  But I'm afraid we're just dreaming... In 2004, Dean managed to climb back up about 10 points in NH after the IA fall-out; but with only a few days between primaries, will anyone have time to reconsider the previous choice?

If all 4 states happened at once, your scenario would be plausible.  Sadly, I'm afraid that IA will once again send a ball rolling down a steep hill.

Then, of course, we have never seen the way Dem primary voters in NV behave, and the West is a very different cultural place -- which might actually have the vaunted "independence" that NH, which rubber-stamped Kerry, was supposed to have.

As I see it, that's what it comes down to.  If NV apes IA, it's all over.  But if 5 days proves enough for them to decide they'll make their own mind up, and they reach a different conclusion, all bets are off and we may get the long run of free media and excitement about the Democratic nominee -- while the Republican becomes stale, old news -- that we are hoping for.


Tim Wolfe
by bruorton on Thu Jan 11, 2007 at 09:55:37 PM EST
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Senator Clinton has a lot of support in Arkansas, as does Bill of course.  There's been a grassroots base for the Clintons in Arkansas for some time, just waiting for Hillary to announce her intentions to run.  Also, Emily's List just pledged it's endorsement of Hillary for President and that is a powerful organization that will be hellbent on getting out the women's vote, nationwide.  Just saying.


by marycontrary on Thu Jan 11, 2007 at 07:57:42 AM EST

North Carolina is wrong (none / 0)

The North Carolina primary is scheduled for May not February 5.  There was a bill in the legislature to move the primary, but it hasn't gone anywhere.


by KickinIt on Thu Jan 11, 2007 at 09:57:53 AM EST


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