RNC Giving Up on PA-Sen, MT-Sen and RI-Sen

Over at The Hotline's Saturday brunch there is an interesting item on the Senate strategy of the Republican National Committee: throwing near everything at Ohio, Missouri and Tennessee in a last-ditch attempt to hold on to the Senate.

The Republican National Committee's independent expenditure campaign kicks off with two ads in Ohio targeting Sherrod Brown (D) and an ad in TN targeting Harold Ford. Party strategists expect much of the IE's resources to be sent to the so-called firewall states of OH, TN and MO. (emphasis original)

If I am reading this story correctly, and I believe I am, the RNC is all but giving up on Conrad Burns, Rick Santorum and Lincoln Chafee -- or at least hedging their bets by reserving the bulk of their independent expenditure reservoir for races they deem more winnable. The basis of this strategy is the theory, which is probably true, that it will be near impossible for the Democrats to win back control of the Senate unless they win at least two of the three seats from Ohio, Missouri and Tennessee.

The problem for the GOP, however, is that it is not assured that this gambit will pay off. Indeed, by telegraphing the decision to withhold key resources from Senate campaigns in Rhode Island, Pennsylvania and Montana, the RNC drastically undercuts the GOP Senators seeking reelection in those states (a show of no-confidence doesn't usually inspire volunteers and donors to redouble their efforts), and consequently cedes a fair deal of momentum nationally in the race for control over the Senate. What's more, as we on this side of the aisle saw in 2004, placing too many of one's eggs in a single basket by narrowing down the scope of battle can backfire as states that could have been competitive with a little bit of money are just given to the other side.

Clearly, this is a move of weakness from the GOP. The leaking of this strategy represents a new low point for the Republicans, providing yet more proof of their desperation and their sincere belief that they are on the verge of losing not one, but both chambers of Congress.



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Re: RNC Giving Up on PA-Sen, MT-Sen and RI-Sen (3.00 / 1)

How do you read "much of the IE's resources" to the three states as "near everything"?

You may be "reading this story correctly" but since there is no story there beyond the paragraph you quote, people less in tune, like me, cannot see this as you do.

I do agree that it is a good thing that the RNC is having to play such heavy defense. But your headline  seems misleading.

P.S. I also do not how you get "giving up on  . . . Lincoln Chafee" out of this. If Chafee wins the primary, then he is the favorite, no?


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by demondeac on Sat Sep 09, 2006 at 02:06:16 PM EST

Chafee (none / 0)

Chafee has been slightly behind in the polls for the general, and the betting markets strongly favor the chances of the Democrats winning this seat. Personally, I am not so sure about that. If he loses the primary then  a Democratid win is certain and there would be no point in the GOP investing resources in RI; if he wins it then they would probably change their priorities and spend a lot of money on him. They have been spending a lot to help him win the primary. Then that race would have to be counted as a toss-up.


by herodotus on Sat Sep 09, 2006 at 02:23:42 PM EST
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Re: RNC Giving Up on PA-Sen, MT-Sen and RI-Sen (none / 0)

The polls have Chafee losing by a few points to Whitehouse, but he is still pretty competitive and could pull it off.


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by Fran for Dean on Sat Sep 09, 2006 at 02:24:08 PM EST
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Well (none / 0)

One issue is that Bush is extremely unpopular in Rhode Island. If this were 2002 or 2004 Chaffee would have a shot. I think that Bush is just too unpopular in RI for him to win.


by jiacinto on Sat Sep 09, 2006 at 05:28:01 PM EST
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Re: RNC Giving Up on PA-Sen, MT-Sen and RI-Sen (none / 0)

If Chafee loses, the R's lose the seat.  Of course, they can always reallocate money for GOTV later, but ad buys are cheaper if done now.


by Mimikatz on Sat Sep 09, 2006 at 03:20:38 PM EST
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Re: RNC Giving Up on PA-Sen, MT-Sen and RI-Sen (none / 0)

I don't see it either. Jonathan, please explain how you are thinking


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by Populism2008 on Sat Sep 09, 2006 at 04:06:04 PM EST
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Re: RNC Giving Up on PA-Sen, MT-Sen and RI-Sen (none / 0)

The IE campaign presumably includes House and Governor races as well, so if "much" of it is going to these three Senate races, there cannot be "much" of anything left over for other campaigns.


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by Jonathan Singer on Sat Sep 09, 2006 at 05:53:42 PM EST
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Re: RNC Giving Up on PA-Sen, MT-Sen and RI-Sen (none / 0)

Well, I can see your point. But I still find your conclusions a bit premature.


The history of the left is a history of purists betraying the progressive movement so that they can feel good about their righteous selves.
by Populism2008 on Sat Sep 09, 2006 at 06:19:54 PM EST
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UPDATE: NYT reports... (none / 0)

that RNC is conceding RI if Laffey wins.


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by Robert P on Sat Sep 09, 2006 at 07:10:17 PM EST
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PA-Sen, MT-Sen (none / 0)

Arguably, the Republicans in those races, having not faced primaries, have enough money to win their races without RNC advertising.


by Adam B on Sat Sep 09, 2006 at 02:35:56 PM EST

Re: PA-Sen, MT-Sen (none / 0)

Technically, Tester did have a primary challenge from state Senate Minority leader Bob Keenan.


by Ryan Anderson on Sat Sep 09, 2006 at 03:19:05 PM EST
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Re: PA-Sen, MT-Sen (none / 0)

He's saying the Republicans haven't had a primary challenge, so they don't need the extra money.  Not sure if its on-point or not - just wanted to clarify.


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by Robert P on Sat Sep 09, 2006 at 05:55:03 PM EST
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Re: RNC Giving Up on PA-Sen, MT-Sen and RI-Sen (none / 0)

Sounds like something the Democrats would do.


by Jim Treglio on Sat Sep 09, 2006 at 02:42:26 PM EST

Re: rubber stamp Rick has enough money (none / 0)

Santorum had around 20M to begin, about twice as much as Casey, although now after spending a good chunk of that on ads starting the end of June, he only has a small COH advantage.

The RNC/RSCC really doesn't need to help Santorum although that may change given how much money Rendell both has for himself and can raise for Casey. Rendell's relection is looking increasingly easy meaning he'll have a good bit of money to spread around to the other state Dem candidates.


by phillydem on Sat Sep 09, 2006 at 02:49:43 PM EST

Re: rubber stamp Rick has enough money (none / 0)

I would expect Rendell to give money to Santorum based on his effusive praise for him.


With Democrats Lieberman goes for the jugular. With Republicans he goes for the lips.
by Sitkah on Sat Sep 09, 2006 at 03:59:15 PM EST
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Re: you'd expect wrong (3.00 / 0)

Like many of your comments, this is also far, far off base.


by phillydem on Sat Sep 09, 2006 at 04:17:10 PM EST
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Re: you'd expect wrong (none / 0)

How can you live in philly and not know of Rendell praising Santorum -- more than once?

"I will eventually campaign with Casey," Rendell went on. "But, no, you won't see me attack Santorum." He added, "I work well with him and [U.S. Sen. Arlen] Specter. When it comes to Pennsylvania, Santorum delivers."

Pennsylvania Gov. Ed Rendell (D) has confounded his party with some recent comments about Sen. Rick Santorum (R-PA). He recently told the Weekly Standard that Santorum "has proven that he gets the job done. Time and time again he has come through." Rendell later praised Santorum again to the Philadelphia Inquirer: "How could I be tearing a new rear end for someone who worked effectively to get flood relief for Pennsylvania?"

Is Ed a fool -- or does he want Casey to lose so he'll remain the unquestioned BigDog in the PA Democratic Party?

Ed's no fool.


With Democrats Lieberman goes for the jugular. With Republicans he goes for the lips.
by Sitkah on Sat Sep 09, 2006 at 08:18:24 PM EST
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Please (none / 0)

Ed walked back that dog the next day:

Rendell reiterated how much he preferred the state treasurer for the U.S. Senate job. And everybody involved brushed aside those pesky compliments for Santorum, who the governor had said "delivers" and has "proven that he gets the job done."

"Make no mistake, my endorsement of Bob Casey is not just because I think Rick Santorum has failed in many areas, but it is because I think Bob Casey is an exceptional young man and he will do exactly what he says," Rendell said.


by Adam B on Sat Sep 09, 2006 at 11:22:31 PM EST
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Re: Please (none / 0)

Ed walked back that dog the next day

A better anology than the dog one is that Rendell closed the barn door after having already given the horse to Santorum.

Which set of comments by Rendell do you think Santorum is promoting?


With Democrats Lieberman goes for the jugular. With Republicans he goes for the lips.
by Sitkah on Sun Sep 10, 2006 at 03:55:51 AM EST
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Re: Please (none / 0)

Well, yes, Ed's an idiot sometimes, but that doesn't make your claim that you "would expect Rendell to give money to Santorum based on his effusive praise for him" accurate.


by Adam B on Sun Sep 10, 2006 at 10:52:33 AM EST
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Re: Please (none / 0)

Well, yes, Ed's an idiot sometimes, but that doesn't make your claim that you "would expect Rendell to give money to Santorum based on his effusive praise for him" accurate.

It's called sarcasm.


With Democrats Lieberman goes for the jugular. With Republicans he goes for the lips.
by Sitkah on Sun Sep 10, 2006 at 03:16:00 PM EST
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Re: wrong again (none / 0)

Perhaps thanking someone when they do their job or help you - even people you might not like very much - is a foreign concept in your world, but it's not in mine or in most other Pennsylvanian's. That's all Rendell did here, thank Santorum for his help in getting federal money for the state's victims of the flooding in early summer.

Maybe if YOU lived in Phila, you'd know that Rendell is simply not a "hater", he'll work with whoever he needs to to advance his agenda, and despite what you think, it's a progressive one.


by phillydem on Sun Sep 10, 2006 at 05:11:18 AM EST
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Re: wrong again (none / 0)

That some make excuses and apologize for Rendell's praise of Santorum (in an election year no less) is a mystery of human nature.


With Democrats Lieberman goes for the jugular. With Republicans he goes for the lips.
by Sitkah on Sun Sep 10, 2006 at 03:12:18 PM EST
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Re: RNC Giving Up on PA-Sen, MT-Sen and RI-Sen (none / 0)

I'm also questioning the Cantwell race. Rove is supposed to be out this weekend for a fundraiser for Reichart but no mention of a get together with McGavick (unless of course, Rove is just taking McGavick out for a drink later). McGavick's powers to uproot Cantwell certainly haven't showed themselves thus far. Rove makes me nervous when he's quiet.


by mainsailset on Sat Sep 09, 2006 at 03:57:43 PM EST

Re: RNC Giving Up on PA-Sen, MT-Sen and RI-Sen (none / 0)

Johnathan,

(From a comment posted at Digby's)

The president has just casually declared in a WSJ intreview that republicans will retain both houses of Congress after the mid-terms and that they will then phase out Social Security.

http://www.tpmcafe.com/blog/coffeehouse/ 2006/sep/09/social_security_to_be_phased _out_in_2007

This is much akin to his early declarations in 2000 and 2004 that he had each election sown up. Later we found out there was serious voter fraud in Florida and Ohio.

It is time to take this statement as a serious threat. The blogsphere must make this interview an issue. How does the president in any rational way think he is going to win, given the overwhelming negative polls against himself and his party, unless of course he knows that he can put his thumb on the scale.

More importantly with all this PR nonsense about the detainees and the show theater military trubinal vote going on, his real number 1 item is to PHASE OUT SOCIAL SECURITY. Is anyone on the republican side runing on this, openly? Is anyone campaigning even talking about this?

We need to make sure that the political ads all point out that the president clearly uses the "war on terror" as a fear-inducing mask for his real agenda, which is so unpopular no one in his party can't even attempt to run on it!!!

Seriously that the president feels his #1 priority is Social Security phase out is something that should be apparent to all Americans. It's not enough that he took your sons and daughter from you he wants your retirement too, and he feels that he has a tight enough lock on his own party to force it through.


by smacfarl on Sat Sep 09, 2006 at 04:20:30 PM EST

Re: RNC Giving Up on PA-Sen, MT-Sen and RI-Sen (none / 0)

I am glad the RNC is giving PA a pass. Casey is a lousy candidate and has so far run a bad campaign. His debate on MTP was atrocious The fact that "man on dog" is so close speaks volumes to yet another DC Dem establishment misjudgement.

Believe me the PA senate race will be a lot closer than we all think. I would not be surprised if Santorum pulls ahead on Nov 7th. The trends are not in Casey's favor.


by ab initio on Sat Sep 09, 2006 at 04:32:16 PM EST

Re: RNC Giving Up on PA-Sen, MT-Sen and RI-Sen (none / 0)

I hate to say this, but you seem to be a bitter Pennachio supporter. It's like you almost want Casey to lose.


by jiacinto on Sat Sep 09, 2006 at 05:23:42 PM EST
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Re: RNC Giving Up on PA-Sen, MT-Sen and RI-Sen (none / 0)

I don't think you do "hate to say" that, because you've been saying it to everyone who's been at all critical of Casey for the past year.  You're seriously starting to sound like the Republicans who claim that anyone who criticizes the President hates America / is aiding the terrorists.

The fact is, the polls are not moving in Casey's favor, and the race is definitely tightening.  I want Casey to win as much as anyone else, that doesn't mean I can't realize the fact that this race is actually becoming competitive now.


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by Fran for Dean on Sat Sep 09, 2006 at 05:34:07 PM EST
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Re: RNC Giving Up on PA-Sen, MT-Sen and RI-Sen (none / 0)

Weren't you a Pennachio supporter from Day One? I'm sorry, but here and other forums there were people predicting "gloom and doom" if Casey were the nominee and that only Pennachio could "save the day"?

No one ever said the race wouldn't tighten. It will tighten, but all the polls have continually shown Santorum in the high 30's/low 40's. I think he will gain support inevitably in the final weeks when the GOP base comes home.

I still think Casey is going win, albeit it will be around 4 points or so. I could see Santorum getting 47-48% of the vote.

I never said it would be a blowout.


by jiacinto on Sat Sep 09, 2006 at 05:42:29 PM EST
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Re: RNC Giving Up on PA-Sen, MT-Sen and RI-Sen (none / 0)

I supported Pennacchio in the primary because I thought he'd make a better Senator, and also pledged to support (and currently do) the primary winner.  I never predicted a "gloom and doom" scenario if Casey were the nominee, and I don't know of anyone who really did.  What some of us were saying is that Casey doesn't really stand for much and isn't campaigning too hard, which is why we see the polls tightening of late (and if Santorum's internal poll is to be believed, it's now down to 3 points from the 20ish it used to be).


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by Fran for Dean on Sat Sep 09, 2006 at 06:48:43 PM EST
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Re: RNC Giving Up on PA-Sen, MT-Sen and RI-Sen (none / 0)

woops, not Santorum's internal, I meant the rumors of Casey's internals.

Still, my point remains that just because someone criticizes the way a campaign is run doesn't mean they want that candidate to lose.  In fact I would say just the opposite is true.  We criticize in hopes that they'll correct what they're doing wrong so they can win.


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by Fran for Dean on Sat Sep 09, 2006 at 06:51:23 PM EST
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Well (none / 0)

The race was always going to tighten. What is probably happening, Fran, is that the GOP base is coming home. In the end, though, I think Santorum is still likely headed toward defeat. He still hasn't gotten out of the high 30's/low 40's. If more polls come out in line with that supposed internal poll, then I'll worry. But for now it seems like an outlier. For a week ago the USA Today poll had him ahead by a 56-38% margin. I think both polls may be outliers.


by jiacinto on Sat Sep 09, 2006 at 07:47:15 PM EST
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Jumping to conclusions without facts. Not smart! (none / 0)

Jacinto

You have no idea who I support. Don't make assumptions when you have no basis to do that.

First, I did not have a dog in the Dem primary fight. My comments are based on my first view of Casey on MTP. He was terrible IMO. Second, while Santorum was running ads Casey just sat around. Third, his polling trend is going in the opposite direction. Of all incumbents Santorum has one of the worst approval ratings, yet, he is closing the gap with Casey. That just goes to show that Casey is a lousy candidate and running a bad campaign.

I hope Casey makes it but will not surprised at all if he loses.


by ab initio on Sun Sep 10, 2006 at 12:05:51 AM EST
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Re: RNC Giving Up on PA-Sen, MT-Sen and RI-Sen (none / 0)

IF your taking about that phoney insider poll quote it's said that the santorum campaign leaked that as a way to make Casey look bad. The quote is a "FAKE".


by orin76 on Sat Sep 09, 2006 at 11:10:43 PM EST
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Re: RNC Giving Up on PA-Sen, MT-Sen and RI-Sen (none / 0)

opps talking(stupid keyboard)


by orin76 on Sat Sep 09, 2006 at 11:11:14 PM EST
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Well (none / 0)

Frankly this is how I see it:

1. PA: Santorum has been mired in the high 30's/low 40's through the campaign. He hasn't caught up any ground. There is that link that shows that there is a rumor that Casey's internals show that Santorum is within three points. I honestly would wait for more confirmation, though. That poll may be an outlier.

At this point, though, if I were the head of the NRSC, I'd probably cut my losses. Santorum has not made any ground. The dynamics in this race haven't shifted. Maybe in later October, if the numbers tighetened, I would send more money; but, as it stands, I'd pull out.

2. RI: If the poll that showed Laffey ahead by double-digits is correct, with only a few days before the primary, I'd wait and see if Chaffe pulls it out. If he does I'd donate money. If Laffey wins then this seat is gone.

So if I were Dole I would probably then focus my resources on these seats: MO, MT, OH, TN, VA. Those are the Republican seats that I would send money to. Pending the results of the primary, I would then focus on trying to win MN, WA, NJ, and MD (but this depends on whether MFume wins the primary. If Cardin wins the primary then MD loses its ability).

The NRSC, though, is clearly playing defense at this point.


by jiacinto on Sat Sep 09, 2006 at 05:26:32 PM EST

Re: poll (none / 0)

I went to the website that cited the Casey internal poll. It's pretty much a rw site and doesn't give any details on how it learned of the poll or when the poll was done. You can bet this would be being trumpeted by all the rw PA bloggers and anonymous trolls who frequent the liberal websites, but it isn't. One would think Santorum's internal polls would also show a tight race and they would be publicized to give the impression rubber stamp Rick has the big Mo, but you don't see any of that either. I'll remain skeptical for now.

As for final percents, I can see Santorum with between 45-47%, but I think that's his ceiling and so apparently does his campaign or they'd not be working so hard to get and keep Romanelli on the ballot.


by phillydem on Sat Sep 09, 2006 at 06:30:31 PM EST
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Re: poll (none / 0)

Well I said the same thing about Romanelli. You are right: if they thought they could win a two-man race, they wouldn't have aggressively sought to place him on the ballot. Probably their internal polling numbers indicated that they couldn't win a two-man race.

Even the Quinnipac poll, which was the most favorable toward Santorum, the numbers were not good. The most important number was the fact that Santorum polled only 39% in the suburbs of Philadelphia. With numbers that low in those crucial counties surrounding Philadelphia, he cannot find enough votes to win.

So I agree with you.


by jiacinto on Sat Sep 09, 2006 at 07:51:28 PM EST
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Re: poll (none / 0)

BTW, what's the latest on Romanelli's ballot status? Last I heard was that he wasn't even close to making the ballot.


by elessar on Sat Sep 09, 2006 at 09:53:52 PM EST
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Re: poll (none / 0)

No final determination; but, from what I've seen, enough of his signatures are fradulent that he won't make the ballot.


by jiacinto on Sun Sep 10, 2006 at 12:39:56 AM EST
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Re: ballot challenge (3.00 / 1)

The judge is making two-person teams, 1 Dem and 1 GP rep, go over EVERY signature, 90k+, and AGREE on which signatures are valid or not. I spent about half a day at Casey's Phila campaign office along with a partner reviewing signatures for the initial court challenge. It's a very time-consuming task, first deciphering the names (even the printing is often bad, forget figuring out a lot of the written sigs)is hard and then looking them up may entail several tries at spelling, full or partial name, or searching for the address and then deciding if the signer is a registered voter in that county the petition is for. In my four hours, my partner and I got 5-6 pages done and the pages we worked on were in the 3500 numbers, but only 10-20% of the signatures I saw were valid.

The teams will be lucky to be finished the task by the first of October. IMHO, the judge should have taken random sample pages, reviewed those and then made a decision to either proceed with 100% verification or thrown Romanelli off the ballot.

The last report I saw was something like 60% of the signatures were invalid. That wouldn't be enough to make the 67k threshold.

There were also two court challenges on the ballot access rules. The one in federal court was denied and that's over. The one in state court was also denied, but it's been appealed to the state supreme court. This challenge is to the DoS admin rule that judicial retention elections are not considered "statewide" elections for the purpose of determining the "2% of highest vote getter" signature requirement threshold for 3rd party or indy candidates. Personally I don't see the state supreme court overturning the DoS ruling which has been used for years because candidates CAN and DO
meet the signature threshold which just happens to be unusually high this year.


by phillydem on Sun Sep 10, 2006 at 05:30:35 AM EST
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interesting story over at nytimes.com (none / 0)

http://www.nytimes.com/2006/09/10/washin gton/10senate.html?hp&ex=1157860800& amp;en=e27866087cd07eea&ei=5094& partner=homepage

Says that the RNC is saying they will concede RI to the Dems if the conservative challenger to Chafee wins the primary.


by Reece on Sat Sep 09, 2006 at 05:48:13 PM EST

Re: interesting story over at nytimes.com (none / 0)

I think you beat me to it, I posted up above, plus I linked to my story on my own blog, because I'm self-serving and all that good stuff : )


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by Robert P on Sat Sep 09, 2006 at 07:11:22 PM EST
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Re: RNC Giving Up on PA-Sen, MT-Sen and RI-Sen (none / 0)

I agree that the fact that santorum is cripping up on casey, make me nervous.

Hopefully, casey will win.


by Maria19Rodriguez on Sat Sep 09, 2006 at 06:03:37 PM EST

Re: RNC Giving Up on PA-Sen, MT-Sen and RI-Sen (none / 0)

Santorum committed poltical suicide in the Debate last week that's way the national polls that came out showed him further down after the debate you don't use the dead against their children in pa politics and win.


by orin76 on Sat Sep 09, 2006 at 11:16:30 PM EST
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Re: RNC Giving Up on PA-Sen, MT-Sen and RI-Sen (none / 0)

Santorum is not "creeping up" on Casey. Poll after poll shows him stuck at around 40%. It's true Romanelli has taken a couple points away from Casey
that might make it look like Santorum is gaining, but he's not.

You know, you don't have to believe everything that
Dems/lefties who have never liked Casey or Santorum supporters say.


by phillydem on Sun Sep 10, 2006 at 05:35:13 AM EST
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I think they gave up on Burns (none / 0)

Kos linked to a Burns ad accusing Tester of being soft on terrorism. It's just the kind of atrocious ad you'd expect from the Republicans, only normally, the RNC would run this kind of ad and the GOP candidate would run warm, fuzzy ads.

Here you have a despicable negative ad, and at the end you see Burns saying, "I'm Conrad Burns, and I approved this message."

If the RNC were planning to spend any money at all on Montana, I don't think Burns would have chosen to pay for an ad like that. It would better suit his purposes to have that kind of ad end with, "Paid for by the Republican National Committee."


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