My New Favorite Candidate (at least for today): Jack Carter

The only major candidate to speak out about torture is Jack Carter, Democratic Senate candidate for Nevada.  Here's his Op-Ed on the subject.

But being "serious about fighting this war" means more than launching a counter-attack at these immoral villains and destroying them. We must recognize that their real target is not just our people, but the ideas and values upon which we stand.

Military theorists know that winning requires both a solid attack and a sober defense. Without the attack, Osama can regroup, lie in wait, and pick his time. Without the defense, we expose our core to a corrosive rot which may forfeit the war while we win the battle.

There is no doubt that torturing people is un-American. There is no doubt that unfettered eavesdropping on Americans by the executive branch is un-American. There is no doubt that holding prisoners without due process is un-American.

These are the spear marks our attackers left, every bit as much a wound as the gaping hole in New York's skyline. These were inflicted, not by suicide bombers, but by Fear - the opponent of Values and the "other" weapon in the terrorists' arsenal.

We must defend our families and our values as fiercely as we attack our enemies. Our government must fight Terrorists, but our Values must battle Terror. These principles define us. They make us American more than geography ever did.

This administration does not appear to understand that being "serious about fighting this war" requires us to defend our values. Defense of our values is not a sign of weakness, it's the foundation from which we launch our attack.

Many of you don't know that I supported the invasion of Iraq.  It was stupid, and it was wrong, but I did.  At the time I was 24, and I thought that Clinton was a great President, that 9/11 justified pretty much anything, and that tax increases led to dead-weight losses in the economy.  I also believed that voting for the Iraq war was good politics, because the American people wanted war.  

Though I was mostly pro-war I didn't have the sneering anti-anti-war attitude of so many liberal hawks.  I respected the anti-war position, but I just couldn't bring myself to buck the system because I felt that if the New York Times said that Saddam had WMD's, it must be true.  My anger at the current model of politics has to do with the fact that I went through a journey over the next few years to figure out where I went wrong, and so many institutions that lied to me and my generation did not.  They didn't care that they made an error in judgment.  In fact they rejoiced in their steadfast attitude in the face of utter wrongness, and still do.

I was so very wrong, and I think about how wrong I was all the time.  I don't just think about how I made an error in judgment on the face of the issue, I think about how there was basically no real debate, except in the blogs.  In retrospect, the silence was the kicker.  And now, the silence over torture reminds me of that time, prior to the Iraq War, when it seemed like whatever your position it seemed like good politics to shut up and go along with the right-wing approach.  

I don't think so.  Torture is wrong, it doesn't work, and it's immoral.  And we are not naive for opposing it.  There are a lot of sneering Congressional aides out there whispering about how silly we progressives are for not recognizing that this is a loser issue and that we should take it off the table as quickly as possible.  Well you know, my attitude is that if that's your attitude then you are less than human, a moral ghost, a wretch of a creature, a person who has ruined your soul in the pursuit of mediocrity.  It is not smart politics to support torture, because politics must have an ethical basis and in torture there is none.  Torture is the tool of the weak, and as we embrace it, we become weak.  The military is opposed to torture - if you can't turn that into political capital then you aren't practiced in politics.  

Now, in terms of 2006, it's important to take back Congress from the Republicans, who are at this point a grotesque group of theocratically oriented middle managers, a kind of sadistic Office Space crew.  If Democrats can set the agenda, we will have the ability to head off further degradation of our country, and maybe we can punish some of these really bad people.  It is also important to put progressives in the House and Senate, so that if we take a chamber back, we can put some spine into that agenda.  That's why it's important to work for candidates who are inspiring, like Carter, and candidates who aren't.

As for the practical aspects of this race, I'll say upfront that I don't know much about Nevada politics.  John Ensign seems like a stupid nobody, a pretend-libertarian who is actually just a rich baby that likes to play golf and get fabulous haircuts.  He's considered to be in a very strong position, but you know, I've come to doubt the conventional wisdom.  After blogging about Ned Lamont and Donna Edwards and seeing them emerge into powerful and legitimate political figures, I feel like there's something in that conventional wisdom that is deeply in error.  Some huge percentage of the population of Nevada is new to the state since Ensign was elected in 2000, and Bush isn't well liked there.  I suspect Ensign can be beaten, though again, I'm not well-versed in Nevada politics.  And if Ensign is beaten, then at least we'll have one more principled Senator in Congress to prevent this country from sinking even more into moral muck.



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Re: My New Favorite Candidate: Jack Carter (none / 0)

How is he doing from his surgery?  That kind of killed any momentum he had going.

Was or is Jimmy Carter popular in NV?  

If Jack doesn't win, he can take a run at something else.  His name is out there - he ran against a scandal-free incumbent, no shame in losing there especially with the health problems along the way.

BTW:  Love the Office Space comparison.  Made me think of "Corporate Republicans Nina speaking...just a moment!  Corporate Republicans Nina speaking...just a moment!  Corporate Republicans Nina speaking...just a moment!"

Let's hope the republicans get a big case of the Tuesdays in november.


by scientician on Tue Sep 26, 2006 at 12:50:38 PM EST

Re: My New Favorite Candidate: Jack Carter (3.00 / 2)

My Dad is doing much better after his hospitalization.  He's campaigning with my grandpa in Northern Nevada this week (although he's still taking it easy as much as possible).  I wrote a diary about it over at Daily Kos.

Republicans like to point out that Jimmy Carter never won in Nevada.  What they fail to mention is that in 1980, the number of voters in Nevada was 243,692, while in 2004, it was 829,132.  Nevada has changed dramatically in that time period.

And frankly, Jimmy Carter has become very well-respected over the past 20 years.

Sarah


by Sarah R Carter on Tue Sep 26, 2006 at 12:57:06 PM EST
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Re: My New Favorite Candidate: Jack Carter (none / 0)

Hi Sarah,

Not looking to be negative, though rereading it my post sounds more skeptical than I really am about Jack's run.

Well, I hope Jack recovers and can turn this around.  The op-ed he wrote is good, and we definitely need Democratic senators willing to say things like this.


by scientician on Tue Sep 26, 2006 at 01:46:30 PM EST
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Re: My New Favorite Candidate: Jack Carter (none / 0)

How are the latest internal/external polls going? I'd think this State would be very much in play for a Democrat.

Agreed about Jimmy Carter becoming well respected over the last 20 years. My buddy Rand from Cleveland Ohio has been tirelessly singing the praises of Jimmy Carter for at least 15 years. Pro-Peace Presidents are the best Presidents.


by Cleveland John on Tue Sep 26, 2006 at 02:02:06 PM EST
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Re: My New Favorite Candidate: Jack Carter (none / 0)

I don't know if the Carter campaign is spending any money polling but I am sure the Ensign camp is and, to me, it is very telling that they have not released their internal polls.  If the Mason-Dixon and Research 2000 polls are anywhere close to accurate and Ensign's polling agreed with them I would think they would release them because when your enemy is sinking in politics you throw them an anchor.


by msstaley on Tue Sep 26, 2006 at 08:54:46 PM EST
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Re: My New Favorite Candidate (at least for today) (3.00 / 2)

Thanks, Matt.

We can definitely win this thing.  What we need most right now is money.  You can read my fundraising pitch in my diary.

Sarah


by Sarah R Carter on Tue Sep 26, 2006 at 12:52:15 PM EST

Re: My New Favorite Candidate (none / 0)

Well Matt that took some cojones- and I appreciate it as someone who has been right on the issues for a very long time.  I now understand the anger you project on some postings and replies; hopefully that will also temper with time. I once went through a republican period, or I shall say I was raised a pubbie and supported Reagan in College; but like you, I could not believe the lies- and I still don't understand how people I know, not rednecks, support the current regime- the bottom line, I fear, nobody cares; of course until it is too late.


by RAULC on Tue Sep 26, 2006 at 01:07:20 PM EST

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by RAULC on Tue Sep 26, 2006 at 01:07:29 PM EST

I worked a couple in Nevada (none / 0)

There's a strong base of moderate Republicanism with considerable hosility toware the wing of their party that hates gambling, divorce, prostitution, women, and the whole goddamn human race, for that matter.

I hope Jack Carter is plenty pro-gun, though.

Ensign was not well-liked among Republicans and Independents, forget Democrats. By now I assume, he's built some bridges, mended some fences, but he's gotta be a long way from invulnerable.

Torture is a great issue for Jack Carter; it leverages President Carter's unimpeachable moral reputation. Also, people forget that Carter was a very conservative president, more conservative than Ford in many respects. Jack should bring in some of those crackers from that long ago administration who can call Ensign (gasp!) a liberal.

Work the body. Left, right. Left, right.

Sarah, don't you an auntie named Amy? God, she must be all grown up by now.

This one will come in late. Wouldn't it be nice to wake up Wednesday morning and find out it was the tie-breaker?

Like fatherr, like son. Why not the best?


by stevehigh on Tue Sep 26, 2006 at 01:16:11 PM EST

Re: I worked a couple in Nevada (none / 0)

My Dad has travelled around quite a bit and he's met a lot of the folks you talk about -- they're conservatives, but not that kind of conservatives.  They're very libertarian.

My Dad is very much pro-gun.  He sees it as part of protecting the Constitution: you gotta take your Second Amendment with the rest of 'em.  He has an "A" rating from the NRA.

And yes, Amy is my aunt.  She's 39 years old and has a 7 year old son (they live in Atlanta).

Sarah


by Sarah R Carter on Tue Sep 26, 2006 at 01:48:14 PM EST
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Re: I worked a couple in Nevada (3.00 / 1)

Glad to see that.  The key to winning the new, emerging blue states out west to to be solidly liberal but also being pro-gun.  

I cannot give that much, but I will drop a few dollars today.  I always feel bad when it's money the only thing keeping a great candidate from winning.


McCain is defining Obama, and Obama is neither defining himself, nor McCain. This is awful.
by jgarcia on Tue Sep 26, 2006 at 01:58:30 PM EST
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Thanks for the history. (none / 0)

I read Mydd as much for you as Chris. I'm older (60) and when I read you two I am always impressed with your insight and analytical abilities, so much so that I tend to forget the generation and a half difference in age. During the 60's I was never comfortable with the disdain that was often heaped upon the older generations. Wisdom and insight can come much faster to some than others. Sometimes direct experience is required but just as often it is not. Many times one can apply insight to experience to leverage wisdom.

The other thing I enjoy is watching you and Chris change. Mostly it's subtle and it leads me to realize that I am changing as well.

Sorry for the fluff comment.


Jeff Wegerson - PrairieStateBlue
by wegerje on Tue Sep 26, 2006 at 01:26:15 PM EST

excellent post man. (none / 0)

And I completely agree, i'm far from an objectivist or anything, but torture is wrong.

plain and simple, there is no equivacation there at all, you can end any internal politically driven dialog you may have.

It. is. wrong.

It does my heart good to see some (much deserved) Carter props over here. He's an excellent candidate who has built an impressive amount of momementum by standing up for his Democratic principles and by honestly engaging the rural voters that the inside the beltway types like to pretend don't even exist.

This race is a sleeper, and Ensignificant is going down.

-C.


by neutron on Tue Sep 26, 2006 at 01:42:01 PM EST

Re: My New Favorite Candidate (at least for today) (3.00 / 1)

I love how active Sarah is in the campaign.  It warms the cockles of this long-time Carterite's heart.

My meager contribution to the Carter campaign was made most willingly and with aspirations of victory.


by stumpy on Tue Sep 26, 2006 at 01:50:02 PM EST

Re: My New Favorite Candidate (at least for today) (none / 0)

You know, I was thinking the same thing. How cool is that! And how cool is it that she isn't getting caught somewhere getting drunk while being underage *cough Bush*. Keep up all the hard work of blogging for Papa, Sarah. And PLEASE don't forget your family's tradition of honesty and integrity!


by Legionnaire on Tue Sep 26, 2006 at 08:11:36 PM EST
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Doing the "patriotically correct" thing (none / 0)

by supporting the Iraq war and torture has been the path of least resistance.  Too many of us got scared, got angry, were willing to follow what seemed like a strong leader who said he was doing what's best for America.  We didn't want to think about it too much.  We wanted the comforting emotions that come from singing God Bless America in a big crowd at the baseball game.

Jack Carter's column is exactly the right response right now.  Stop.  Think.  Look where fear and anger have gotten us.  Think about not just who is competent to lead us, but also who will lead us in a way that will sustain our values.

I'm happy to see any voters change their mind about the decisions they made in favor of the Iraq war, and I will be happy to see any voters really confront and reject torture.


by DFLer on Tue Sep 26, 2006 at 01:54:03 PM EST

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Were those the same "sneering political aids" who said the Democrats should go aong with Bush's Iraq war resoluton too? So we could "get it off the table," and "run on the economy, healthcare and education" in 2002?

Wow. That turned out well, didn't it?

Here is a blog piece I wrote last June about torture, which made the exact same points Jack Carter did: That our respect for human rights, due process and freedom is our STRONGEST ASSET.

Whereas, people like George W. Bush and his followersm, like Adolph Hitler before them, believe those things are our principle weakness.

Well, Hitler was wrong. BIG TIME. And so is George W. Bush now.


by Hesiod Theogeny on Tue Sep 26, 2006 at 01:59:37 PM EST

Re: My New Favorite Candidate (none / 0)

Glad you finally woke up, Matt.  Prior to the Iraq War, I happened to be in Europe.  The view from Europe in early 2003 was that the US was headed for unmitigated disaster.

I recall a dinner with several retired US business execs, (one of whom had once worked for Ike) who were absolutely livid about how "... those f*cking a**holes Bush and Cheney...were f*cking up 50 YEARS of goodwill, of diplomacy, of negotiations in a mere six goddamn WEEKS!"  And that's the sanitized version of their remarks.  

The (British, French, German) press carried  plenty of news suggesting that Iraq was going to be an unmitigated disaster.  Yet the Herald Tribute (published by the NYT) continued to publish  'unnamed sources'  claiming that Iraq had WMD. Coming back to the US was like entering a Disneyfied NewzWurld.  It seemed to me that most news outlets were utterly intimidated by the WH and the RNC.

Hat's off to Jack Carter for a demonstration of sanity and courage -- best of luck.

------
Theogeny -- great name!


by readerOfTeaLeaves on Wed Sep 27, 2006 at 01:21:59 AM EST
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Thanks Matt (3.00 / 1)

Thanks for your courage and thanks for this passionate post.

I contributed to the Jack Carter campaign immediately after reading that OpEd. A man with those very American principles and values deserves to be a Senator.

The Dems over the past few years have sacrificed principle on the altar of electability by buying into the wingnut frames. That resulted only in electoral losses. Its time for men with principle like Jack Carter to be elected. We cannot sacrifice what America stood for from its very founding as it will be the death of our country and our way of life.

Torture, indefinite detention with no habeas corpus and warantless spying on Americans is un-American. Any candidate that cannot stand up against these issues deserves to be defeated and that goes for both parties.

Kudos to Jack Carter for standing up for America!


by ab initio on Tue Sep 26, 2006 at 02:12:12 PM EST

Southern Strategy for the 21st century (3.00 / 1)

There are a lot of sneering Congressional aides out there whispering about how silly we progressives are for not recognizing that this is a loser issue and that we should take it off the table as quickly as possible

It's worth noting that the basis for these sneers, and for the conviction that it is a loser issue, is because it's a racist strategy. Everytime Bush says that these are dangerous people, everytime some republican says that you have get tough with these people, everytime they invoke bin Laden the subtext is that these are brown people. These sub-humans who have no rights to violate.  


by jayackroyd on Tue Sep 26, 2006 at 02:29:45 PM EST

Funny... (none / 0)

Funny, as this commentary comes on the heels of a snark from Chris looking forward to not having to go after "values" voters.  This is a Christian meme, and we ought to be shouting it from the rooftops.  It's not only the completely right and moral message, it is a politically powerful message.  Not surprising that the moneychangers up on the Hill don't get that.


by aravir on Tue Sep 26, 2006 at 02:40:03 PM EST

Americans don't torture. (none / 0)

America has always been a champion of human rights, especially under Jimmy Carter. I know we tend to mess up a lot , but Winston Churchill said "You can always depend on America to do the right thing, after it tries everything else."  
  I wish health and victory to the Carter Family.
Everybody eats, nobody hits and there is no third rule.
by upperleftedge on Tue Sep 26, 2006 at 02:40:38 PM EST

Re: My New Favorite Candidate (at least for today) (none / 0)

....Torture is wrong, it doesn't work, and it's immoral.  And we are not naive for opposing it.  There are a lot of sneering Congressional aides out there whispering about how silly we progressives are for not recognizing that this is a loser issue and that we should take it off the table as quickly as possible.  Well you know, my attitude is that if that's your attitude then you are less than human, a moral ghost, a wretch of a creature, a person who has ruined your soul in the pursuit of mediocrity.  It is not smart politics to support torture, because politics must have an ethical basis and in torture there is none.  Torture is the tool of the weak, and as we embrace it, we become weak.  The military is opposed to torture - if you can't turn that into political capital then you aren't practiced in politics....

Freedom from torture is a non-derogable human right under the peremptory norms of international law. That is, no law, no treaty, nor any executive order can make torture legal. This administration and their enablers in Congress are seriously delusional if they think they can avoid the Hague by parsing language in a piece of legislation. Anyone who follows the administration's "orders" in  committing torture will find that any such order or legislation won't be worth the paper it's printed on when it comes to protecting them from answering for their actions.

Rule of Law: an absolute prohibition of torture


543,895 votes
by Michael Bersin on Tue Sep 26, 2006 at 02:59:32 PM EST

Re: My New Favorite Candidate !!!! (3.00 / 1)

It is easy to see why rural Nevada residents love Jack Carter.  They know all about the city slickers. They've seen it all ...literally! They ain't easily impressed.  
These are the right kind of folks, honest, hard working and independent, as hell!

If Jack can earn their trust, he can earn every one of ours!  Ensign hasn't got a chance in November. Their loyalty is now to Carter...and they mean it!  For him to be trusted to represent them is a genuine honor ...and I mean that!


by bubbleboy on Tue Sep 26, 2006 at 03:11:46 PM EST

...some nice fresh fall air... (none / 0)

why, just yesterday i was hoping for some news about senator carter...thanks, sarah!


by greenbird on Tue Sep 26, 2006 at 07:27:54 PM EST

Democrats and the Senate (none / 0)

Given the large financial advantage that the DSCC has over the NRSC and the lack of endangered incumbent Democratic Senators there is no excuse for our Senate Democratic challengers to not have the resources to compete with the Republican incumbents, even in states like Utah let alone Nevada.  It is especially important to see all of our Democratic Senate challengers strongly supported because strong campaigns by them will positively impact all Democratic races in their states.  

There is a chance that Democrats can take the Senate this year and not just position themselves for victory in 2008.  Should the Democrats gain control of the Senate this election it almost assures control through 2012 since so many more Republicans will be running in 2008 than Democrats and many of those states are traditionally blue states.  By expanding the number of competitive races to 10, Democrats have a far better chance at winning the six seats they need to take the Senate, not considering the positive impact it will have on the outcome of House races and in state legislative races.

Jack Carter is an excellent candidate in a state on the verge of turning blue and deserves our support.


by msstaley on Tue Sep 26, 2006 at 09:15:03 PM EST

Homoerotic torture (none / 0)

The torture Bush and the Republicans are promoting is primarily homoerotic torture. Whether there'd be any political advantage in pointing this out or not, I don't know.

The torture techniques are gruesome. The scenes from Abu Grabu gives a clue. Nudity is a prerequisite.


by Hempy on Tue Sep 26, 2006 at 11:04:55 PM EST


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