The End of Progressive, Single-Issue Advocacy

Contribute to Patrick Murphy

I was looking through the 2005 League of Conservation Voters scorecard today (large PDF) in order to see how they comparatively view Democrats and Republicans. While the LCV compiles useless information on the average score of each congressional delegation by state, they do not compile average scores of Republicans and Democrats. I guess this is because they don't want to appear--gasp--partisan. Instead, we have to only go with their leadership averages. So, in their 2005 scorecard, the League of Conservation Voters rated the leadership of each caucus in the House and Senate as follows:

Senate
Bill Frist: 5%
Mitch McConnel: 0%
Rick Sanotrum: 10%

Harry Reid: 100%
Dick Durbin: 95%
Debbie Stabenow: 85%

House
Tom DeLay: 6%
Roy Blunt: 6%
Deborah Pryce: 6%

Nancy Pelosi: 94%
Steny Hoyer: 83%
Robert Menendez: 100%

Democratic leadership average: 92.8
Republican leadership average: 5.5

According to the LCV, in 2005, the Democratic congressional leadership is 86.3 points better, out of 100 points, than the Republican leadership on relevant issues. They also rated the leaders of important committees:

Senate
Agriculture, Nutrition and Forestry. Chambliss (R-GA) 0; Harkin (D-IA) 95
Appropriations Cochran (R-MS) 0; Byrd (D-WV) 65
Commerce, Science and Transportation Stevens (R-AK) 5; Inouye (D-HI) 65
Energy and Natural Resources Domenici (R-NM) 5; Bingaman (D-NM) 70
Environment and Public Works Inhofe (R-OK) 0; Jeffords (I-VT) 85
SENATE COMMITTEE LEADER AVERAGE CHAIRS 2; RANKING MEMBERS 76

House
Agriculture Goodlatte (VA-06) 0; Peterson, C. (MN-07) 50
Appropriations Lewis, Jerry (CA-41) 6; Obey (WI-7) 100
Energy and Commerce Barton (TX-06) 0; Dingell (MI-15) 89
Resources Pombo (CA-11) 6; Rahall (WV-3) 83
Transportation and Infrastructure Young, D. (AK-AL) 0; Oberstar (MN-8) 83
HOUSE COMMITTEE LEADER AVERAGE CHAIRS 2; RANKING MEMBERS 81

According to the LCV, in the Senate, the Democratic committee leadership was 74 points better than the Republican committee leadership, and in the House the Democrratic committee leadership was 79 points better.

Virtually no bills in Congress are passed without the support of both the relevant committee chair, and the support of the leadership of the majority party. Now, since I imagine that one of the goals of the LCV is to have legislation passed that is favorable to their agenda, they would want to see complete change in the leadership of both Houses of Congress, and of all relevant committee chairs. Otherwise, there seems to be no way that they could have get any substantial amount of legislation passed that is favorable to their agenda.

Considering this, and also considering that every single Republican in Congress will vote to continue the current majority leadership and committee chairs, it would follow that the only acceptable strategic path for the LCV to pursue in order to pass legislation favorable to its agenda would be to create a Democratic majority in Congress. Were they to do so, according to their own scorecards they would have a congressional leadership that agrees with the LCV 92.8% of the time, instead of one that disagrees with them 94.5% of the time. They would also have committee chairs that agree with them 78.5% of the time instead of committee chairs who disagree with them 98% of the time. Clearly, considering the way ongress works, and according to their own scorecards, a Democratic majority is the only path toward significant amounts of legislation favorable to the LCV agenda.

Why am I writing about all of this? First, to point out that because advocacy groups cling to the antiquated, New Deal era notion of non-partisanship, they fail to see that the only way they can accomplish a legislative agenda in Washington that fits with their principles would be to become partisan Democrats. Second, I am writing about this because shortly the League of Consevation voters will announce that they have endorsed Michael Fitzpatrick for Congress instead of Patrick Murphy. This is the same Michael Fitzpatrick who, in the 2005 Energy bill:
  • Voted against punishing energy companies who defraud the public by overcharging for electricity and gas (Dingel Amendment);

  • Voted against granting local authorities control over where new natural gas facilities are located (Castle Amendment);

  • Voted against punishing polluters for dumping on minority and low-income neighborhoods (Hastings Amendment);

  • Voted against greater investment in cleaner energy (Bishop Amendment);

  • Voted against including alternative fuels in our strategic energy reserve (Kaptur Amendment).
Now, given this, why would the LCV support Michael Fitzpatrick instead of Patrick Murphy? The LCV gives Fitzpatrick a score of 61, which for a Republican is extraordinarily high. They even gave him a check mark on the energy bill, even though he voted against all of the amendments to the energy bill that I listed above. However, even with his score, Fitzpatrick had a better rating than only 32 of 202 Democrats. And where were the Democrats who had a worse rating?

AL-05, AL-07, AR-01, AR-04, CA-43, GA-02, GA-13, IA-03, LA-02, LA-03, MN-07, MS-04, MO-04, NY-10, ND-AL, OK-02, PA-12, PA-17, SD-AL, TN-04, TN-08, TX-09, TX-15, TX-16, TX-17, TX-27, TX-28, TX-29, UT-02, VA-03, VA-09, WV-01

Basically, Fitzpatrick was marginally better than the most conservative Democrats in the country. Almost all of these districts are more red than PA-08, and in almost every case Fitzpatrick barely scored better than the Democrats I listed (thge Dems I listed typically pulled in scores of 50 and 56). In conservative districts with Democrats, the LCV is getting a score of around 50%. In conservative districts with Republicans, the LCV is getting a score of around 5%. While I am not defending the way those individual Democrats voted, I seriously doubt that there is a single challenger to any of those Democrats who would vote better than the sitting Democrat votes. Not a single one.

The idea that Patrick Murphy would not have received a higher score than Michael Fitzpatrick is laughable. It is almost as laughable as the notion that Michael Fitzpatrick will not continue to support the current Republican leadership if Republicans, with the help of the LCV, retain power this year. Considering his donors, Fitzpatrick certainly has no problem taking their money to run his re-election campaign:
  • Buck McKeon, $10,000. LCV rating: 6 out of 100 (21st Century PAC).
  • Tom DeLay, $9,299, LCV rating: 6 out of 100 (Americans for a Republican Majority PAC)
  • Bob Beauprez, $1,000, LCV rating, 6 out of 100
  • Jo Bonner, $2000, LCV rating, 11 out of 100
  • Charles Boustany, $1000, LCV rating, 6 out of 100
  • Ginny Brown-Waite, $500, LCV rating 6 out of 100
  • Michael Burgess, $1000, LCV rating, 0 out of 100
  • John Campell, $1000, LCV rating, 0 out of 100
  • Chris Cannon, $1000, LCV rating, 0 out of 100
  • Mike Conway, $2000, LCV rating, 0 out of 100
  • Christopher Cox, $1000, LCV rating, 7 out of 100
  • Jonh Culberson, $1000, LCV rating, 0 out of 100
  • Charlie Dent, $2,250, LCV rating, 0 out of 100
  • Mario Diaz Bartlett, $1000, LCV rating, 0 out of 100
  • John Duncan, $1000, LCV rating, 0 out of 100
I could go on for a while, but I don't have all day, so I am going to stop at the D's. Fitzpatrick has also taken money from several energy companies, and several PACs that are dedicated to keeping the 5.5-LCV-score Republicans in charge of Congress.

To summarize:
Even though a Democratic Congress would be far better according to the LCV than a Republican congress, even though all Republican members of Congress vote to support the leadership of that Congress, even though there isn't a congressional district in the country where the Republican nominee would vote better or even as well as the Democratic nominee, even though Patrick Murphy would vote better than Fitzpatrick, even though Fitzpatrick didn't really vote all that well, and even though Fitzpatrick's warchest is filled with the money of Republicans who received a score of uner 10 according to the LCV, the LCV is going to endorse Fitzpatrick. That seems like the smart, strategic move in order to help the environment.

These days, the entire single-issue, non-partisan, progressive advocacy organization infrastructure in Washington, D.C. has become a pathetic farce that has no impact on either elections or the issue areas for which they advocate. None of these organizations have accomplished a single progressive legislative victory at the national level since Republicans have held the trifecta. Their advocacy on behalf of "moderate" Republicans has gotten them nowhere, except that it keep Republicans in power and hard-right conservatives in charge of legislation concerning their relevant advocacy areas.

These are organizations that all grew to power when Democrats were in charge. Now, Democrats are not in charge, and they are powerless. You think this would set off a collective light-bulb hovering over each of their respective issue area ghettos. However, outside of the 2004 Presidential election, they insist on refusing to work together, and on refusing to throw all of their electoral weight behind putting Democrats back in charge. As long as they refuse to do that, they will remain as irrelevant as they have been in recent years, and the issues for which they advocate will continue to be legislated entirely by hard-right conservative ideologues. If I was a member of any of these organization, which I am not, I would cancel my membership the second they continued to endorse one more Republican for federal office. Sending your money to groups like LCV is actually a waste of your money, since it effectively results in keeping Republicans in charge of legislating on the environment. Thus, supporting these organizations actually results in more severe environmental damage then not sending money to them. The progressive members of these organizations need to leave and form new organizations that will work with one another and support both the progressive movement and the Democratic Party wholeheartedly. These days, that is the only way someone can successful advocate for a progressive issue area. The old ways are done for the forseeable future. The groups must change or die off.

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Re: The End of Progressive, Single-Issue Advocacy (none / 0)

How do we change this attitude among the groups?  They don't seem to be listening at all!

btw, i don't think surivor is being rascist, controversial, yes, rascist no....


by JAmbro on Thu Aug 24, 2006 at 05:07:35 PM EST

Re: The End of Progressive, Single-Issue Advocacy (3.00 / 2)

Don't give them money and tell people who you know that might give them money not to.  Send them a letter about their shortsidedness.  That got some attention in CT.


by Mimikatz on Thu Aug 24, 2006 at 05:49:48 PM EST
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Re: The End of Progressive, Single-Issue Advocacy (none / 0)

Unlike nearly every other congressional election of the past 50 years, control of the House is clearly on the line.  This is not only stupid, it is lethally stupid.


by David Kowalski on Thu Aug 24, 2006 at 05:12:09 PM EST

Re: The End of Progressive, Single-Issue Advocacy (none / 0)

They are copying the NRA model. The problem is, the LCV can't deliver any votes the way the NRA can. So their endorsements mean diddly and never swing races.

BUT, the NRA always endorses the candidate with the BETTER rating on its issues, ragardless of party or incumbancy. And when two candidates are about equal they stay out of it.

The LCV metholology is ludicrous to say the least.


by Hesiod Theogeny on Thu Aug 24, 2006 at 05:13:01 PM EST

Re: The End of Progressive, Single-Issue Advocacy (none / 0)

i'm the nra and i vote. they always endorse the incumbent if they are equal with challenger. i'm a libertarian democrat. thank you. bbbbbbbb


by bob reid on Thu Aug 24, 2006 at 08:18:47 PM EST
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Re: The End of Progressive, Single-Issue Advocacy (none / 0)

The NRA doesn't endorse Democrats in federal races, only in state.  


Go back to Hussein Texas
by gobacktotexas on Thu Aug 24, 2006 at 09:43:51 PM EST
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Re: The End of Progressive, Single-Issue Advocacy (none / 0)

Not true.

The NRA gave a very lukewarm "endorsement" to Jean Schmitt over Paul Hackett. In fact, their endorsement of Schmitt was so complimentary of Hackett that it actually made no difference.


by Hesiod Theogeny on Fri Aug 25, 2006 at 01:40:51 PM EST
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Re: The End of Progressive, Single-Issue Advocacy (none / 0)

they used to endorse both. i just went to an nra-ila mix & mingle in south bend, indiana. well they point blank said that they didn't support any demos at all. they don't want pelosi to be be speaker of the house. this was the incessant theme. i just sat there and laughed. i was wearing a donnelly button. they weren't happy about it, but you know what can i say?


by bob reid on Sat Sep 02, 2006 at 09:23:25 AM EST
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Don't forget "catch and release" (none / 0)

What would Fitzpatrick's score be in a Congress where the R's held a bit less than a +30 vote edge?

But this is nothing new.  It's the same type of reasoning that led the National Education Association to switch sides in PA-06 and endorse Jim Gerlach, thanks to his "B" grade on the curved NEA report card in 2005 - even though every Democrat in PA's Congressional delegation, including Tim Holden, received an "A" grade.


by looking italian on Thu Aug 24, 2006 at 05:15:59 PM EST

Re: The End of Progressive, Single-Issue Advocacy (none / 0)

It seems like this might partly be due to legal status.  They can't be partisan or it jeapordizes their funding.


by xela on Thu Aug 24, 2006 at 05:18:58 PM EST

Re: The End of Progressive, Single-Issue Advocacy (none / 0)

They could include leadership votes in their tallies.  Since so much depends on the leadership, it would not be unreasonable to include a weighted vote for leadership in their rankings.  That satisfies partisanship with an honest evaluation of a vote.


by Phoenix Rising on Thu Aug 24, 2006 at 05:30:45 PM EST
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They could compare the two candidates in each (none / 0)

...district and endorse the candidate they think would be better on the environment.


by EricJaffa on Fri Aug 25, 2006 at 11:08:33 AM EST
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VA-03? WTF?? (none / 0)

For starters, I'm in total agreement with the post. You said most of those 30 Democrats represent conservative districts, but one of them stood out to me. VA-03. That's Bobby Scott's district, in the heart of urban Richmond Virginia. That guy could kill kittens on live TV and still get elected for the rest of his life. Why is he voting against the environment 40+ percent of the time?

Does environmental legislation do bad things for poor urban constituencies? Do black voters hate the environment? Someone fill me in here, I'm really confused. And if there's no good explaination, I'm gonna have to write Rep. Scott a little letter about his environmental voting record.


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by msnook on Thu Aug 24, 2006 at 05:36:07 PM EST

Ditto NY-10 (none / 0)

That's urban Brooklyn...Edolphus Towns is losing it (didn't he buckle on both the bankruptcy law and cafta?)...few more Democratic districts exist.  Too bad his opponents are, in one case highly controversial, and in the other case convicted.  Although, at this point Barron might not be a bad option, would at least be interesting and would almost certainly have voted against the aforementioned odious bills.  In a past thread's comment, someone called Towns a 'lesser evil'...I'm not so sure I agree with his or her political detective work there, but then I live about 15 miles from the district (and in nyc terms that's the other side of the world).

While we're on the subject of interest groups, mad props to the AFL-CIO for noticing his betrayals.


by thurst on Thu Aug 24, 2006 at 06:51:38 PM EST
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Re: The End of Progressive, Single-Issue Advocacy (none / 0)

Tim Walz could use some help.  Minnesota could definitely go Dem.  Let's help them out.

http://www.actblue.com/page/netrootscand idates#638


DAGGER
by goplies on Thu Aug 24, 2006 at 05:39:31 PM EST

Re: The End of Progressive, Single-Issue Advocacy (3.00 / 3)

Game-changing post, Chris.  Here is the seed for a new scorecard system.


by Matt Stoller on Thu Aug 24, 2006 at 05:50:06 PM EST

Re: The End of Progressive, Single-Issue Advocacy (none / 0)

Great post.  I have felt for a long time these organizations have outlived their usefulness.  Stuff like this gives Repub candidates cover and helps put the Hasterts and Boehners of the world back into their leadership position where they push one anti-environmental bill after another.  And single issue groups can't understand why they continually lose battles in Congress.  


by John Mills on Thu Aug 24, 2006 at 06:07:03 PM EST

Re: The End of Progressive, Single-Issue Advocacy (2.00 / 2)

Let me start out by acknowledging that the incumbants pose the greatest challenge for groups like LCV.  If Lieberman or Chafee votes with you 85% of the time-it's almost impossible not to give them the vote, even if it means blocking a more progressive candidate who would vote for a more progressive leadership and have a potentially better environmental record.  I would argue that these instances are the small price we pay for having groups like LCV.

That being said, it amazes me the extent to which bloggers devalue the role of issue advocacy organizations.  The consistent attempts to rip groups like LCV suggest three things to me

  1. a naive optimism that Democrats will support issues like the environment without being pressured.  
  2. a willingness to rip down institutions that represent the broader social good in the service of short term Democratic Party victories.
  3. a lack of understanding about the role these institutions do lobbying and advocating for the environment, etc.

1.  A group like LCV needs to set the ground rules-vote pro-env. and we'll endorse you, vote anti-env. and we won't endorse you.  A handful of R's fit those criteria and so LCV keeps up their end of the bargain.  If LCV only endorsed Democrats they would have no credibility with either party and absolutely no moral high ground.  No Republican would feel embarassed about scoring low on the LCV scorecard because it would only be designed to further the interest of the Democratic Party.  No Democrat would feel bound to listen to the positions of LCV because there would be no risk of losing the endorsement.  We need LCV to keep Democrats honest-how many votes have we seen in the last couple years where supposed progressive Dems fled the public interest position: bankruptcy, energy, etc.  Anyone who thinks that the battle to protect the environment/women's rights/consumers/net nutrality/any issue you care about ends once the Democrats take back Congress hasn't been around long enough.

2. America is better off for having respected non-partisan advocates on issues like the environment who draw clear lines on policy that can often be muddied by the competing claims of political parties.  As much as I want to win back the House and the Senate there is a legitimate means and ends issue at play here.  What if LCV only endorsed Democrats this election-would anyone take them seriously in 2008?-of course not.  In the long run our democracy is better served by their independence even if it means seats, even if it means the House or the Senate this time.  

Liberals are engaged in a larger war with the corporate power in this country.  Powerful interests would love nothing more than to eliminate the idea of truth, or fact, or impartiality and leave only spin and propaganda.  That's why they attack the MSM, that's why they'd love to see the non-partisan non-profit sector disappear, it leaves a world where facts are more fungible and they can continue wreaking havoc on our nation.  We need institutions like LCV to act as referees on issues like energy policy or clean air protections-to refute the lies and explain what conservative corporate polluters are doing to screw up our country.  

3) I can't do justice to their role in DC-perhaps someone else can pick up where I left off-or write a book about the environmental defense role that groups like LCV have played in DC over the last couple of years.  But let me just end by saying that we still have the Clean Air Act, the Endangered Species Act, the Arctic National Wildlife Refuge.


by Bill Mason on Thu Aug 24, 2006 at 06:17:09 PM EST

A Couple of Thoughts (3.00 / 1)

1 - You can't have non-partisan advocacy groups when the non-partisan nature of governing has been destroyed as it has been by the Repubs.  This worked in the old days when there was a concensus middle but doesn't work in the polarized world of today's politics.

2 - My experience with single issue advocacy groups is that they want the freedom to support whomever they want in elections but then want to be in the room when party decisions are made.  This may not be representative of LCV but it is with a lot of other ones.  You can't have it both ways.

3 - One of the most important votes any member of Congress casts is for Speaker of the House or Majority Leader of the Senate.  The majority controls committee chairs and what gets to be voted upon and under what rules.  It is fine if a Repub has a good environmental record but if he or she votes to put bad environmental people in charge it doesn't do much good.  The converse is that a Dem with a bad environmental is likely to put good environmental people in charge.  

It is about seeing the bigger picture which does not always come through looking at individual voting records.


by John Mills on Thu Aug 24, 2006 at 06:35:51 PM EST
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Re: A Couple of Thoughts (none / 0)

1 - while I agree with you, it is the IRS' opinion that counts, here...

2 - any examples? my experience is that they want to be in the room when their ISSUES are being discussed...

3 - Not for issue groups, who really rely on small, frequently unnoticed issues in appropriations bills, etc... those decisions can have a far larger impact on our (i work for planned parenthood) issues and funding for our millions of clients who need medicaid funding for health care...


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by steveolson on Thu Aug 24, 2006 at 06:49:04 PM EST
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Re: A Couple of Thoughts (3.00 / 1)

Since you work for Planned Parenthood, maybe you can tell us if your organization had more success while Democrats were in control or today?


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by Fran for Dean on Thu Aug 24, 2006 at 09:04:41 PM EST
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Re: A Couple of Thoughts (none / 0)

"success" is a tricky word... we have a lot of successes and setbacks every session and I am not particularly qualified to talk about legislation. I do know that we have been pretty successful at maintaining medicaid funding over the last 5 and a half years and some other stuff that don't really make headlines - and none of that would have been possible by burning bridges with supportive republicans.

I can also tell you that a lot of the fights are moving to the states since the antis haven't been able to get what they want in washington. I would consider that a success for us and our allies.

If you take a look at a lot of states, the appeal of becoming partisan is even less appealing... would you recommend we stop working with republicans in Louisiana, Georgia and elsewhere? Should we push anti-choice Dems in the midwest, hoping that the "party" will keep them in line?

I would imagine that you will see the "death" of non-partisan choice groups when you see the "death" of the anti-choice democrats nationally (or the pro-choice republicans defect).


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by steveolson on Thu Aug 24, 2006 at 09:33:22 PM EST
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Re: A Couple of Thoughts (none / 0)

You've managed to maintain medicaid funding for the last five and a half years, a time when medical costs have been skyrocketing and the number of people of poverty has significantly jumped? Just to have it maintained, isn't that setting the bar pretty low?


Go back to Hussein Texas
by gobacktotexas on Thu Aug 24, 2006 at 09:52:13 PM EST
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Re: A Couple of Thoughts (none / 0)

she asked in comparison to when the democrats were in charge (which was 1992-1994?1) so i was looking at it comparatively.

I would point out that we are still able to offer low-cost or free health care to millions of clients each year in an economic environment that you describe above IS a success. If we had thrown supportive republicans overboad our clients would have been left high and dry due to cutbacks. Take a look at the rest of the crumbling medicare/medicaid system and tell me we aren't doing better.

you also forgot about pushing the antis into the states seems like a pretty big success to me...


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by steveolson on Thu Aug 24, 2006 at 10:14:17 PM EST
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Re: A Couple of Thoughts (none / 0)

1: That is an argument against voting for moderate Republicans-it is not an argument against single issue groups.  Also-making a statement like "that worked in the old days" suggests you have no vision for a future in which a broad progressive consensus dominates the corporate/conservative power structure.

2. I don't know what to say here.

3. I acknowledged that the incumbant poses a significant challenge.  Again this is a great argument for voting against a Republican in 2006, not an argument against LCV-groups like LCV operate differently from voters.

Your response doesn't actually address the point so here is the issue as simply as I can state it:

LCV has power because it is non-partisan: if they only endorsed Dems neither Dems nor Republicans would care about them.

You clearly want to utilize their power to win elections (if LCV was irrelevant we wouldn't be spending our type talking about them)-yet you fail to acknowledge that their independence to endorse the occasional Republican gives them their credibility.

I don't want to be redundant but can someone please address the issue that if LCV did what you want them to do-they would cease to have power or serve any actual political role?


by Bill Mason on Thu Aug 24, 2006 at 06:49:12 PM EST
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Re: A Couple of Thoughts (3.00 / 1)

You are not going to like this but I don't think single issue groups like LCV have very much power in the current political world. Please tell me the last major political victory environmental groups have had?  I can't think of one in the last 6 years which coincides with the Repub stranglehold on DC.  

Progressive values and beliefs generally line up better with the environmental movement than conservative ones do.  It is really that simple which is why a Democratic Congress will be better for the environmental movement.

One other thing, I'd love to see a concensus middle emerge again around progressive values but until that occurs I am not going to pretend one exists.


by John Mills on Thu Aug 24, 2006 at 07:45:07 PM EST
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Re: A Couple of Thoughts (3.00 / 1)

I think we can agree that the LCV would have much more success with a Democratic controlled House/Senate.  Therefore, they should do whatever they can to attain that, and once that happens work on improving individual Democrats (ie, using the primary process, pressuring Democrats, etc), and at that point threatening to support Republican opponents who would be significantly better than the Democrat.

Your argument is that if they only endorsed Dems, then neither Ds nor Rs would care.  That's not at all true though.  Democrats would still have to vote in the LCV's interests and earn their support, or the LCV simply wouldn't endorse them.


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by Fran for Dean on Thu Aug 24, 2006 at 09:11:42 PM EST
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Re: A Couple of Thoughts (none / 0)

LCV's power comes not from choosing which Democrats to endorse but from its independence to endorse oppositional candidates.  

I'll say it again-you care about LCV's endorsement because they have credibility and power-yet your recommendation that they only endorse Democrats will destroy that power in the long term.  


by Bill Mason on Thu Aug 24, 2006 at 09:50:25 PM EST
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Re: A Couple of Thoughts (3.00 / 1)

What power does LCV have if they endorse people who will put in power a group that doesn't give a whit about their interests?

"I'm not going to endorse you as a Democrat because the incumbent hasn't been bad to us, even though we lose all of our votes" doesn't cut it.  That's not advocating your cause, that's giving up your cause.

Why should I give money to LCV - whose cause I support - if they're going to go around endorsing candidates who help ensure that none of the issues they want to address get addressed?  What good is an issue-advocacy group in that circumstance?

I agree with Chris on this one: LCV's strategy worked in the past, because Democrats were in charge or because Moderate Republicans held sway.  When the party that is nominally more in favor of your issue is in charge, you endorse individual candidates that best support the cause.  But when a party almost totally antithetical to your issue is in charge, the only useful course of action is to advocate for a return to the first state, where you can be a true advocate for individuals.

I'm actually shocked that issue-advocacy groups can't see that.  Are they locked in the bunker with Cheney?


by Phoenix Rising on Fri Aug 25, 2006 at 11:16:22 AM EST
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Re: The End of Progressive, Single-Issue Advocacy (none / 0)

Party A has a net rating that SUCKS regarding issues you care about. This party completely controls the legislative agenda. Party B has a net rating that looks pretty good from your point of view, but they have NO legislative or oversight power. Where is your moral high ground when you go back to your membership next year and explain to them how you have accomplished nothing because of the "unfavorable legislative environment"? Respectfully, grow up.


by 1arryb on Thu Aug 24, 2006 at 06:45:50 PM EST
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It is not naive (3.00 / 1)

... to think democrats would support the environment without these groups around.

Did you see all the democrats with ratings of 80% or more, and all the republicans with ratings below 10%? Democrats could surely afford to slip to 60, 50, 40 percent, and still get these endorsements, if all they cared about was the approval of the group.

Everything you said in your comment is obliterated by Chris's post. Your 20-year-old outlook is not a response to the post, the post is a response to your 20-year-old outlook.

The LCV could be replaced by the League of Democratic Environmentalists, who would pick the Democrats who fight for the environment or challenge enviro-hostile Republicans. Their members would send them money, knowing that this money would go to supporting the environment -- by electing environmentalists AND putting the environmentalist party on power.


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by msnook on Thu Aug 24, 2006 at 06:49:23 PM EST
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Re: It is not naive (none / 0)

The League of Democratic Environmentalists would have no power-Democrats would listen to them when they wanted to, but might just as easily ignore them in the face of larger campaign contributions from Exxon Mobil.  Republicans wouldn't listen to them because they work for teh opposition.  Independents and the media wouldn't trust them because they look at party affiliation above the facts.  

For example: your League of Democratic Environmentalists wouldn't stand up against the Democrats if they decided the solution to America's energy crisis is nuclear power and off shore oil drilling....because their primary job is to elect Democrats, not safeguard our environment.

I'm not saying Democrats aren't vastly superior on the issue of environmental protection.  But then LCV endorses far more Dems than Republicans-I'm just arguing that they have a role in our political debate that can't be filled by creating another arm of the party.


by Bill Mason on Thu Aug 24, 2006 at 06:59:58 PM EST
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Re: It is not naive (none / 0)

Not naive, merely a case of (dare I say it) not seeing the forest for the trees :). In general it is appropriate for LCV to hold politicians individually accountable for their environmental records. In the current political environement LCV would do much better for their chosen issue to work for a Democratic party majority. Worry about fine-tuning the attitudes of pols after the legislative agenda is being set by a more friendly regime.


by 1arryb on Thu Aug 24, 2006 at 07:36:33 PM EST
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Re: The End of Progressive, Single-Issue Advocacy (none / 0)

Values vs. issues. Where does the Bible mention repeal of the estate tax? But the Christian Right jumps on board with the issue because they know which party represents their "values" better. They have a vision for where the country should be headed, and they support the party which gives them the best chance of achieving that vision.

Protecting the environment does not come down to a set of legislative check-marks. It's a reorganization of our society around more sustainable means. It's bound up in questions of justice, and militarism, and taxation, and corporate globalism in ways that can't be teased out with a simple scorecard of how Members of Congress vote.

It's the exact same way with unions. If a Republican votes against CAFTA after it already has the votes to pass, that means nothing. The Republican Party is out to destroy the Labor movement, and it's representative of the worst of our nation's impulses when it comes to the environment.

The GOP is working against all of the values that would make environmentalism possible. You simply can't ignore that. The GOP has managed to mold itself into a highly disciplined machine that works toward a specific view of society, a view that is diametrically opposed to one in which environmentalism can be a vibrant force. It is rolling over the issue groups because those groups don't understand this basic reality.

Chris's scorecard is a fantastic idea. Because political power is in the hands of the committee chairs and leadership. It is there that a disciplined party like the GOP really operates. If you see what's happening there, you see what's happening for your agenda. And for environmentalism, it's nothing good.


by BriVT on Thu Aug 24, 2006 at 09:27:41 PM EST
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Re: The End of Progressive, Single-Issue Advocacy (none / 0)

A lot of these groups work to protect their jobs and funding. That simple. I worked for a justice group that had stopped recruiting and outreach except to collect membership dues. The board members worked on the awards banquet, fundraiser auction, newsletter and spending the annual income basically on themselves and socializing around the "cause."


by mrobinsong on Thu Aug 24, 2006 at 06:35:30 PM EST

Re: The End of Progressive, Single-Issue Advocacy (none / 0)

Thanks Chris. This was a lot of work and research.


by mrobinsong on Thu Aug 24, 2006 at 06:37:31 PM EST

Re: Environmental scores per Progressive Punch (none / 0)

Progressive Punch does publish the environmental rating of every member of Congress.  On their scorecard, Mike Fitzpatrick also rates as the top Republican but his score is 51.72 and 190 of the 202 Democrats score higher.  The median score for a Democrat (counting Bernie Sanders) is 81.10; the median score for a Republican is 6.15 (that group happens to include Richard Pombo).  Every PA Democrat scores higher than Fitzpatrick.  Indeed, the only northern Democrat (actually non-southern) to score below Fitzpatrick is Collin Peterson of Minnesota (and his voting scores are atrocious across the board).

Since Denny Hastert has made it clear that no legislation will hit the House floor without the support of a majority of Republicans, a vote for Fitzpatrick is exactly the same as a vote for Pombo even though their voting scores are radically different.

A policy of non-endorsement might still provide some carrot-and-stick in some of the few races where Republicans have a respectable score.


by David Kowalski on Thu Aug 24, 2006 at 06:56:42 PM EST

Re: The End of Progressive, Single-Issue Advocacy (none / 0)

I'm with Bill on some of his overall points--#1 that the Dems also very much need to be pressured on these issues to do the right thing; #2 on the whole these groups contribute to the social good vs. detract from it; and #3 they do important advocacy/lobbying work that should not be dismissed so quickly.  All of these points bear repeating.  

I also agree that that nobody--Ds or Rs--would ever take lobbying by these issue advocacy groups seriously if they knew there was no chance they'd get an endorsement or no chance their next opponent might get endorsed.  While the present situation is no good--making endorsements that de facto may keep your worst opposition in power--compromising your long-term credibility for short-term gain wouldn't be any good either.  

Basically, I agree with the substance of Bowers' point--these groups HAVE to change how they make endorsements since they're shooting themselves in the foot--but I have yet to see a concrete proposal for how these groups can change their endorsement criteria without compromising their credibility as advocates/lobbyists.

There must be some way to solve this conundrum.  I don't claim to have the answer, but I would love to see other what other folks think.

One idea people have already mentioned is scoring a member's votes in the leadership elections.  I think that's a good start, but I have a few questions--how much weight do you give that vote, and how do you do it in such a way that maintains your overall credibility for advocacy work?

One idea I had is to raise the bar for who you endorse--make a 90%+ score be the threshold for endorsement.  De facto that means you're not endorsing any of the Rs in Congress right now, but it does leave the door open for future Rs to get endorsed and it also lets people like Fitzpatrick know that at least you probably won't be coming after them by endorsing your opponent unless he's truly extraordinary.

Another idea would be to drop endorsements altogether in races where there isn't a candidate who's significantly better than the other; only take on races where there is a greater than 50 percentage point gap between the two candidates' voting records.

Thoughts?


by dal27 on Thu Aug 24, 2006 at 07:38:18 PM EST

Out With The Old Single Issue Group, In With The N (none / 0)

I think this not so much "The End of Progressive, Single-Issue Advocacy" so much as the end of the old method of operation. The old way, by being non-partisan, has marginalized itself into irrelevancy. In a world of increasing partisanship, if you're not with us, you're at best irrelevant.

There will always be single issue groups. It's human nature. People care about different things. I care about election reform, someone else cares about the war in Iraq, someone else cares about the environment, etc. A wise man said that you have to "Follow your bliss."

In the new model for single issue groups they will have to recognize their place in the movement. They have their issue, they care about it, they want to remind people that it's important and we have solutions, and they know which coalition will get it done. When the vast majority of one of The Two Parties is on their side of their issue, clearly they should be with that party - er - populist movement, if you want to continue to perform non-profit educational and lobbying activities. For the few defectors don't go to a useless member of the other voting bloc, the solution is to push the defector, work with them, convince them. This is a simple strategic point. Getting them on board is easier than getting the entire other voting bloc on board.


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by bolson on Thu Aug 24, 2006 at 08:55:55 PM EST

Re: The End of Progressive, Single-Issue Advocacy (none / 0)

Is there any legal problem, affecting their financing that fits in here?  Are they 503(c) entities with tax deductibility forbidden to endorse political candidates?  Or not?  If so, they may well feel they have to remain non-partisan in order to collect contributions.


by David in NY on Thu Aug 24, 2006 at 09:03:48 PM EST

Re: The End of Progressive, Single-Issue Advocacy (none / 0)

Googling discloses the threat they may feel.
See http://tinyurl.com/gh59s.

I think you need to look into the ramifications of their tax-exempt status before being too censorious about their position. Perhaps they needn't worry, but I'm not sure.

At least consider the problem.  Remember, the Scaifes and the entities they fund don't worry about this, because they're not dependent on tax-deductible contributions.

D  


by David in NY on Thu Aug 24, 2006 at 09:16:59 PM EST
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Re: The End of Progressive, Single-Issue Advocacy (none / 0)

There are regulatory/legal
/tax issues that affect what kinds of dollars (i.e. c3 vs c4 vs pac $) groups can spend on their electoral work, but none that regulate who they can or cannot endorse.  Basically, the question of whether  LCV endorses just Ds, just Rs, both Ds and Rs, or green party  candidates is  purely a political/strategic question.
by dal27 on Thu Aug 24, 2006 at 09:39:43 PM EST
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Re: The End of Progressive, Single-Issue Advocacy (none / 0)

I think there are three separate issues here that might be getting conflated:

  1. LCV, as far as I can tell, is a 501(c)4.  That limits the type of advocacy they can perform.  (Of course, this doesn't seem to stop the 'Christian' right, but they are probably breaking the law).
  2. Given the way progressive groups are typically funded--dependent on tax deductible contributions, many progressive groups, single issue or not, are going to be limited in the endorsements they can make.  In the current funding environment (and the lack of corporate backers for obvious reasons), many groups will be stuck with the 501(c)4 model.
  3. Progressives need to determine if there is a better mechanism for funding their organization, regardless of focus, so that they can engage in more explicit political activity.

I think the LCV strategy has less to do with political naivety and much more to do with funding.


by mfeld356 on Thu Aug 24, 2006 at 10:26:39 PM EST

Re: The End of Progressive, Single-Issue Advocacy (none / 0)

You are incorrect.. Like most national advocacy groups, lcv has a c4 entity, a c3 entity, and a pac.  Go to the "about us" section of lcv.org for evidence.  There is a limit to what lcv can do w/ the c3 $, a different and less restrictive set of limits for what they can do w/ the c4 $, and then a whole bunch of campaign finance laws that regulate their pac.  But the bottom line is that who they do or do not endorse is purely a strategic question.  The primary legal questions raised by their endorsements is what source(s) of $ they can spend on their electoral work and what the limits are for what you can/cannot say when spending from a particular category of $ (i.e. c4 vs pac).  


by dal27 on Thu Aug 24, 2006 at 10:45:47 PM EST
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Re: The End of Progressive, Single-Issue Advocacy (none / 0)

As someone who is close to someone who is on the board of a 501c3 that is being investigated by the IRS with respect to opposition to the Iraq War in 2003 and other matters, let me say this:  even if a group has stayed within the law, the investigation is no fun.  And it is probably some defense to ever being investigated if you are actually non-partisan in the sense that your c4 does endorse some members of both parties.  So people shouldn't overlook that much of what groups like LCV do is financed by tax dollars, and they may be rightly worried about being investigated.  


by David in NY on Fri Aug 25, 2006 at 10:33:00 AM EST
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Re: The End of Progressive, Single-Issue Advocacy (none / 0)

just remember that while there are separate entities - congresscritters don't view them as distinct.

consequently, the actions of the pac will impact the ability of the c3 to lobby those reps once the session has begun, so even though the pac could go straight ticket, that would effectively slam the door in the face of the c3 lobbyists when they visit the other side of the aisle.


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by steveolson on Thu Aug 24, 2006 at 11:34:54 PM EST
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