MyDD Accountability Adwatch: Darcy Burner

Ok, so we spent a bunch of time going over the California 50th results, and have come up with a set of themes for candidates to use.  Now it's time to apply what we learned.  

We'll start with an ad from netroots candidate Darcy Burner, one of my personal favorites and a wonderful candidate in Washington state (this podcast is a good introduction to the candidate).  This is her first commercial, a bio spot:

The spot is aspirational, and focuses on Burner's own life.  She grew up in military towns with parents who struggled to make ends meet, and then put herself through school, met success at Microsoft, and married a military veteran.  Her priorities are to improve education, make health care affordable, protect Social Security, and keep our promises to troops and veterans.  The spot finishes with a direct appeal from Darcy to the voters, saying that the cost of raising a family is increasing and politicians in Washington are listening only to special interests.  We need to change the direction of this country by putting our priorities first.

So that's the ad.

Notice anything missing?  I-R-A-Q.

Notice anything else missing?  Well if you saw this ad, you wouldn't know whether Darcy is a Democrat or a Republican. (That is a failure to take advantage of the 'Republicans Control Congress' message, which is that when voters know who controls Congress, they vote for the other party.)

Notice anything else missing?  Bush.

In other words, this ad is a complete failure.  Not only does it not mention the major issue in the country, Iraq, it doesn't mention our wildly unpopular President, and it doesn't mention the Republican brand, which is associated with failure in Iraq and a lack of accountability.  I could discuss more ephemeral and subjective problems, like the lack of a narrative arc that shows why voters should trust an upper middle class techie, the lack of an explanation for why she decided to run, the use of horrifically vague and loose DLC-phrases like 'make health care affordable' and 'improving education to create opportunity' (what does that even mean?), but we'll start with basics.

The fact that Darcy grew up near the military and married a veteran is not a substitute for having a position on Iraq.  The fact that Darcy succeeded and is a nice person doesn't qualify her for Congress.  One way to put this into a bio spot would be to put all the nice fluffy 'here's who I am' stuff in the first 10-20 seconds, and then pivot to the reason she's running for Congress, which is that her brother is/was in Iraq, and the least Congress can do is hold Bush accountable so he can't screw it up anymore.  Her Congressman won't do that, so I will...  The script would have to be tightened and shaped for her persona, but you get the content idea.

Her ad is ironic, because accountability is a theme of Darcy's campaign.  Her first item on the issues page is Darcy will hold the Bush Administration accountable on Iraq.  And on the contrast page, we have this great messaging:

Darcy Burner supports holding the Bush administration accountable by demanding a plan to secure Iraq without an indefinite commitment of US troops....

Reichert supports the President on the Iraq War and has said he would back the invasion again, even with the information now showing there were no weapons of mass destruction... He opposes efforts to hold the administration accountable for presenting a plan for success.

I'm really excited about Burner's campaign, and think she'll do exceptionally well.  This blog post is a criticism of her first advertisement, not her campaign, and I'm just one person.  What do you think?  Is this ad good?  Am I being too harsh?  And if you have advertising or marketing experience, please preface your comment with that.



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Re: MyDD Accountability Adwatch: Darcy Burner (none / 0)

Complete failure? You don't think that might be a bit much?


by Lucas O'Connor on Mon Aug 21, 2006 at 01:05:20 PM EST

Re: MyDD Accountability Adwatch: Darcy Burner (3.00 / 0)

Yeah, I'd substitute "complete failure" with "not as effective as it could have been".

Anything to boost her name rec and build positives isn't a waste of money.  I'm sure her ads will sharpen in the weeks ahead.


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by HellofaSandwich on Mon Aug 21, 2006 at 01:09:32 PM EST
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Re: MyDD Accountability Adwatch: Darcy Burner (none / 0)

Not just a bit much, but totally off the mark.

This is Darcy's first ad and it is tended to help people in her district know who Darcy Burner is.  It will play over and again to help gain her name recongition, but it will not be her only ad and there is time and space for future ads that dive into specific issues.

I was happy to be one of the very first people to see this ad a campaign event, and I viewed it with no expectations (unlike Matt it appears), and came away thinking this was a good ad.  It showed Darcy in a positive light, with a positive yet serious message.  That's important for first impressions to capture the attention and interest of swing voters who need to warm to a candidate before they will accept a strong message from the candidate that might be more biting.

In all, this was a good first ad - regardless of what Matt thinks.


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by Daniel K on Tue Aug 22, 2006 at 03:00:15 AM EST
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Re: MyDD Accountability Adwatch: Darcy Burner (3.00 / 1)

If you want to focus on accountability for ads (which I think is a great idea), then you should not just call out the candidate, but the consultant.


by Bob Brigham on Mon Aug 21, 2006 at 01:10:29 PM EST

American Dream (3.00 / 0)

I dn't think you're being too harsh at all.  In fact, I wish you had been more specifically harsh at why this ad is so bad:  because it is trying to use the DLC-Clinton 'American Dream' frame.  That's what this is.

If anything, your critique misses the opportunity to show how stupid that DLC frame is.  Every single point you make in this critique could be made stronger by simply adding this phrase after each: "and that's why the DLC 'American Dream' idea will not get one single Democrate elected to the House this fall."

The logic of the American Dream frame is precisely the opposite of what you have advocated in your memo:  It avoids Iraq (assuming that Americans think the Dems are weak on defense), it avoids criticising Bush (assuming that Americans are weary of partisan politics), it avoids talking about accountability for policies, and instead talks about personal responsibility (assumign that Americans are all self-centered individualists who care only about themselves).

And worst of all, the 'American Dream' frame is being pushed on newcommers with a carrot and stick approach--here's some money for your campaign if you use our lame as lame can be 'American dream' frame.    Oh, and here's a McDonald's application when our 'American Dream' frame leaves you without a job next year.

So I'd say hit harder--much harder.  Rear up on those pale, but strong MyDD hind legs and call the DLC PR approach a lame approach for losers.

And one more thing:  The DLC 'American Dream' frame sucks.


by Jeffrey Feldman on Mon Aug 21, 2006 at 01:12:03 PM EST

Re: American Dream (none / 0)

the American Dream is fine, it just has it's limits: domestic policy.  


by Andmoreagain on Mon Aug 21, 2006 at 01:14:28 PM EST
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no, it's not fine (none / 0)

The 'American Dream' initiative was specifically designed to give the DLC and Clinton a way to avoid talking about everything that is important to Americans--under the guise of talking about what they believe will get 'centrist' Democrats elected. It's a terrible flop. And I'm very surprised that they are pushing it through Congressional election ads.    

It is a formula for turning any candidate into a room temperature bowl of mashed potatoes.  Blah.


by Jeffrey Feldman on Mon Aug 21, 2006 at 01:17:15 PM EST
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Re: no, it's not fine (3.00 / 2)

The "american dream" concept was fine.  In 1992.  Its not 1992 anymore.  The DLC triangulation of moving to the center is a massive failure.  The Dems have been failing for years.  Constantly moving to a center that's constantly moving to the right.  No one knows the difference between Dems and Republicans anymore.  The difference is that most DC Dems are what was once known as a Republican Moderate.  People remember republican moderates, and when a dem sounds like one, they figure, 'whats the difference?'  

You know who the real independents vote for?  Whoever sounds like a leader!  Not the whimpering, triangulating weakling.  

You can run to the left and win!  Just show some damn backbone!  Show your convictions, show you won't be cowed by rightwingers and fight dammit!

That ad may be nice for building name recognition, but that's all.  She needs to get a much stronger follow-up out there straight away.


by JJCPA on Mon Aug 21, 2006 at 01:47:28 PM EST
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Re: no, it's not fine (none / 0)

You are inferring that I support for policies you (and I too) disagree with, those of the DLC.  

I am merely defending a reasonable attempt to plug into aspirational values.  You're projecting.


by Andmoreagain on Mon Aug 21, 2006 at 03:40:56 PM EST
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Re: American Dream (none / 0)

It's not a good theme because the Dems can't deliver on it until a Dem is elected president.  At best the Dems can stop Bush from destroying the government.

Sheesh, now Bush wants to privatize tax collection because his rich cronies have complained about government tax lawyers holding them accountable for paying their taxes. So Bush wants to fire the IRS lawyers and send the debt collectors after middle class and poor people. WE MUST STOP BUSH

Darcy needed to say, at a minimum, that she is a Democrat in her intro ad. The negative stuff can come later, but she failed to say who she is. The DLC approach killed Kerry.  I still cringe when I think about the 2004 Dem. convention. That's the approach taken in this ad. The DLC approach is WEAK. The voters are looking for STRENGTH.    The DLC had Kerry repeat the word strength, but the more he repeated it the weaker he looked.  The way to look strong is to know who your are and be proud of it. If Democrats aren't proud of being Democrats they should either change parties or get out of politics.

"I'm Darcy Burner and I'm proud to be a Democrat" with a few quick visual cuts of FDR JFK and Bill Clinton. Nobody stays interested in someone standing at a podium with a voice over. The imagery is slow.

Matt ain't stupid, nor is Feldman. The ad spot is weak. And the last thing we need is more weakness.


Children, have you any fish?
by FishOutofWater on Mon Aug 21, 2006 at 02:52:30 PM EST
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The Power of Narrative (3.00 / 1)

In politics, the best narrative is the soundbite that captures the zeitgeist of the moment -- the hopes, fears, dreams, and resentments of the moment.

"Compassionate Conservative" is one of the best ever coined, and it (along with the SCOTUS coup d'etat) put Bush in the White House. It was a LIE, but it reflected the public mood. Compassion is liberal, and Conservative is strict -- what's not to like?

Bill Clinton got traction with "Work hard and play by the rules" for domestic policy counterpoint to GOP excess, and "Safe, legal, and rare" to neutralize the sex hating zombies.

Al Gore did okay with "People vs the Powerful" -- but that was a Bob Schrum slogan, and Al Gore's meta-narrative was muddled.

John Kerry had no narrative, and relied on being the Not Bush. It might have been enough, had he done a rapid response to the Swift Boat Liars for Bush, and not stepped in it with the "voted for it before voting against it."

Another devastating soundbite narrative was "Are you better off now than you were four years ago?" It was a two by four smackdown of Jimmy Carter's malaise, and combined with Reagan's Hollywood Cowboy swagger, it set the stage for major realignment.

Americans want to think the best about themselves -- after Vietnam, Watergate, social upheaval, post-Vietnam inflation, and Carter's perceived weakness, Ronald Reagan was the man to restore the illusion.

The Democrats current opportunity is based on Bush's lies, incompetence, mendacity, GOP corruption, and the sour public mood -- which means that we need to use the betrayal of the public trust, and restoration of the common good themes.

Toss the GOP the anvils of their own making;

And reaffirm the Democrats commitment to Hope, Opportunity, and Community.


by ck on Mon Aug 21, 2006 at 02:12:55 PM EST
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Re: MyDD Accountability Adwatch: Darcy Burner (3.00 / 0)

I watched the ad without knowing anything about Darcy Burner, and before reading the critique, and came way thinking well of her. So it must be a good ad.

Those who don't know her in her district will probably have the same reaction.


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by Sitkah on Mon Aug 21, 2006 at 01:12:18 PM EST

Re: MyDD Accountability Adwatch: Darcy Burner (3.00 / 0)

I initially gave the ad a good word because it did present Burner in a good light . But Matt is right that it's a cop-out on the real issues of this time.

Call me fooled by a shiney trinket.


With Democrats Lieberman goes for the jugular. With Republicans he goes for the lips.
by Sitkah on Mon Aug 21, 2006 at 03:30:03 PM EST
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Re: MyDD Accountability Adwatch: Darcy Burner (none / 0)

If it were to be the one and only ad the campaign does that would be a valid critique.

Since it won't be, the critique isn't valid.


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by Daniel K on Tue Aug 22, 2006 at 03:13:51 AM EST
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Re: MyDD Accountability Adwatch: Darcy Burner (none / 0)

We'll have to wait and see what the next round of Burner's ads say. It's a fact that these didn't mention that Burner is a Democrat nor the elephant in the room which is Bush's occupation of Iraq.

The additional fact that McMahon and Squire are currently in charge of her media campaign doesn't bode well for future improvements.


With Democrats Lieberman goes for the jugular. With Republicans he goes for the lips.
by Sitkah on Tue Aug 22, 2006 at 04:01:29 AM EST
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Re: MyDD Accountability Adwatch: Darcy Burner (none / 0)

Yes, we'll have to wait - so why don't you wait before criticising?  I've been in close contact with the campaign since the beginning of the year and when they tell me that the ads will evolve I believe them.


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by Daniel K on Tue Aug 22, 2006 at 11:01:18 AM EST
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Re: MyDD Accountability Adwatch: Darcy Burner (none / 0)

"why don't you wait before criticising?" Maybe because we want her to win.


Children, have you any fish?
by FishOutofWater on Tue Aug 22, 2006 at 02:39:48 PM EST
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Re: MyDD Accountability Adwatch: Darcy Burner (none / 0)

Yes, we'll have to wait - so why don't you wait before criticising?  I've been in close contact with the campaign since the beginning of the year

The rest of us who aren't in close contact with her campaign have to call them as we see them based on the information we have.

If you go backupthread  you'll find I said the ad made an initial good impression on me even though it was devoid of real substance and any mention of the party Burner represents or the Bushbeast which every Republican is trying to avoid being lumped with.


With Democrats Lieberman goes for the jugular. With Republicans he goes for the lips.
by Sitkah on Tue Aug 22, 2006 at 02:54:09 PM EST
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Re: MyDD Accountability Adwatch: Darcy Burner (none / 0)

Actually, you don't have to call it as you see it.  You could first engage with the local blogosphere that is following this race closely.  A list of some of the blogs are on the Netroots page.  You could have asked them what the local take was before creating negative buzz about the ad at a national level.

You cannot ignore the local blogosphere, and the NW blogosphere is one of the most engaged and active ones in the country, so look to us for what we're thinking about this and future ads.

If anyone wants Burner to win it is us!


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by Daniel K on Wed Aug 23, 2006 at 11:40:58 AM EST
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Re: MyDD Accountability Adwatch: Darcy Burner (none / 0)

It's a trait of groupthinkers that they can't abide any opinions but those that have approved by their group. I'll have no part of it.

I'll keep stating my own opinions -- not the consensus ones -- and let the chips fall where they may.


With Democrats Lieberman goes for the jugular. With Republicans he goes for the lips.
by Sitkah on Wed Aug 23, 2006 at 12:21:01 PM EST
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Re: MyDD Accountability Adwatch: Darcy Burner (none / 0)

It's a trait of groupthinkers that they can't abide any opinions but those that have approved by their group. I'll have no part of it.

I'll keep stating my own opinions -- not the consensus ones -- and let the chips fall where they may.


With Democrats Lieberman goes for the jugular. With Republicans he goes for the lips.
by Sitkah on Wed Aug 23, 2006 at 12:21:53 PM EST
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Agree, the ad is (none / 0)

Matt, you've hit upon all the right points of criticism, I think.  

This ad is well produced, and she's got a great bio, which they effectively and repetitively highlight, but it says nothing about her campaign or her beliefs.   It's all positioning.   It's cliched liberal laundry list positioning.

The answer to "Why are you running?" should suffuse all messaging.

Let's see what her next ad, and see if there's more to her/her braintrust's strategic capabilities.

I knew Angelides' campaign was dead when I saw his first ads, and when he later didn't improve them much.

When you see one timid decision made after another, that's a bad omen.


by Andmoreagain on Mon Aug 21, 2006 at 01:12:28 PM EST

Re: Agree, the ad is (none / 0)

I simply disagree.  I get a strong sense that this woman sees this country heading in the wrong direction - and she does, and it is.

I think others will see this and take to the positive message and the positive presentation of the candidate.  This ad is catered to those who have never heard of Darcy, and there are many in the district who have not.


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by Daniel K on Tue Aug 22, 2006 at 03:17:04 AM EST
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Re: MyDD Accountability Adwatch: Darcy Burner (3.00 / 1)

A bit harsh. It's her first ad - she's introducing herselves to the voters. If the second set of ad doesn't start hitting on the accountability themes, then I would get worried.


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by jmelli on Mon Aug 21, 2006 at 01:12:55 PM EST

Re: MyDD Accountability Adwatch: Darcy Burner (none / 0)

My initial reaction is that I agree with you, Matt.  But maybe this ad is a fine first ad.  She does need to introduce herself to the District; her opponent is very well known, having caught the Green River killer.  Maybe it is a better time to drop the hammer after she has raised her name ID at bit and given voters some information about her background.  Or maybe I'm completely off base.  I don't know.  


by taylormattd on Mon Aug 21, 2006 at 01:15:29 PM EST

Re: MyDD Accountability Adwatch: Darcy Burner (3.00 / 2)

Hi Matt, my first comment here. I've been an ad weasel for over 20 years, and I think you're being a litle harsh on this one. It's an introductory ad-a little soft- but does an okay job of going "this is who I am-this is what I believe in."

A little broad and vague, but not terrible. What we'd call an umbrella ad for a campaign, summing up overarching themes, and setting up a context for more specific messages.

What they need to do now is take that "putting our priorities first" and make it specific and meaningful.

How does getting out of Iraq "put our priorities first"? Protecting social security? Holding Bush accountable?

I'm thinking that just about every issue out there could be put in terms of "putting our priorities first".

If she can do that and move from the general to the specific, that's a pretty good framing device, especially for an "outsider".


by Rusty123 on Mon Aug 21, 2006 at 01:17:59 PM EST

Re: MyDD Accountability Adwatch: Darcy Burner (none / 0)

I agree with Rusty. I have been in the advertising business for 30 years, and in political consulting for almost the same. This is a good introductory ad. I assume this will not be her only media piece to the voters, but it gets her the "warm fuzzies". I did not know her,either, and came away with a view of Darcy as coming from a middle class, military background, who became a success, and that she has a heart for people. I also agree she needs to build on "putting our priorities first". And that is the proper framing of our disaster in Iraq - forget foreign policy, that is too abstract for the voter to deal with. The proper framing is how much the war in Iraq is costing us here at home. Social security at risk, a disastrous health care system, a decrepit transportation infrastructure, and on and on how hundreds of billions of dollars could have been spent making America safer at home through strengthening the nation. That is the Iraq message that hits home - how the Bush administration's failures have cost Americans on a daily basis.
by VeniceDave on Mon Aug 21, 2006 at 01:27:46 PM EST
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Re: MyDD Accountability Adwatch: Darcy Burner (3.00 / 0)

I don't know.  There's very little useful information in this ad.  It doesn't even explain that Darcy is a Democrat, for instance, or that she's running as a challenger.


by Matt Stoller on Mon Aug 21, 2006 at 01:47:47 PM EST
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Re: MyDD Accountability Adwatch: Darcy Burner (none / 0)

I tend to agree with Matt that, even as an intro "umbrella" ad, some of the time could have been used to sharpen the identify and the priorities/accountability message.  Admittedly, 60 sec. isn't a lot of time, but a strong 5-10 sec can go a long way. As other commenters have noted, a key will be how this is followed up and I hope this kind of critique will be responded to by the campaign.

Matt...this is a good exercise and use of YouTube as a vehicle for generating feedback on ads...another aspect of a video-enabled netroots. Keep it up.


by mitchipd on Mon Aug 21, 2006 at 02:40:41 PM EST
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Re: MyDD Accountability Adwatch: Darcy Burner (none / 0)

some of the most memorable id can be made in 60 secs. you dont need to do a dissertation in order to accomplish your goal. this is where the art of story telling and ad making comes into play.


by bruh21 on Mon Aug 21, 2006 at 03:33:15 PM EST
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The ad didn't tell me why I should vote for her (none / 0)

I think you've got it! I agree with you. I watched the ad and anyone could have run this or similar ad. Even a Republican. General themes, like motherhood and apple pie, don't make me want to vote for someone, even if he/she appears to be a nice person....

Besides, there's not a good way to know if a person is nice--this alone is not a qualifier to being elected--and, for me, where a candidate stands in regards to important issues is a deal maker/breaker.

Good luck in this campaign. Make sure you capture the anti-Bush anger many Americans have.... This INCOMPETENT regime must go, and the ENABLERS should be the first ones to be kicked out!


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by Andros on Mon Aug 21, 2006 at 01:22:06 PM EST

Does Anyone Here... (3.00 / 1)

NOT have a life story?

I mean, I don't think her life story is that much more intriguing than mine, or my wife's or our neighbors.

We buy into Republican crap when we run these ads.  I can wrap up what Matt thinks we need in one word.

BALLS.

Or, NUTS!


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by Robert P on Mon Aug 21, 2006 at 01:28:30 PM EST

Re: MyDD Accountability Adwatch: Darcy Burner (none / 0)

I don't know the demo of her district. Maybe this is their cup of tea, but even as an introduction it lacks the energy that would accompany a mention of the issues you cited. Seeing the way they are highlighted on her web site, it's almost as though she has one message for people who are seeking out info online, and another for the general population. Not good, that.


by DeborahL on Mon Aug 21, 2006 at 01:33:34 PM EST

Re: MyDD Accountability Adwatch: Darcy Burner (3.00 / 5)

[Preface I've worked in advertising in NYC and elsewhere (as and AE and as a planner). I've gotten to work with some of the better creative agencies.  My ad worldview is based on reality that we live in a world of clutter]

I think this ad is a failure because it looks like a paint by the numbers political ad.  The format, the message, the imagery have been done a thousand times (in Washington State and elsewhere).

So, the problem is that -- in this age of clutter -- no one will pay attention to this ad who already doesn't like Darcy. Their brains will read: "boring political ad" and move on to another thought. The only way to make this ad cut through the clutter and communicate these boring ass messages will be by increasing frequency up beyond something like 8X and then people will notice it but also likely be annoyed by this boring ad (and not any more likely to vote for Darcy).

I don't think the focus on the "lower standard of living" meme is necessarily bad.  It's a great, real and resonant point to make (pisses me off) but it is not made well in this ad -- just lots of cliches.  And, in this age of clutter and consumer cynicism, no one is going to buy it.

I think, for that reason, this ad even fails in terms of communicating the "OK we can trust Darcy" message (which I think was their main goal, based on the structure of the spot).  The imagery and language is so cliched that it'll make the tyically very cynical consumer say "this is BS" and cause them to view her as just another Politician.

Iraq could work if it is executed right.  It is a hot button issue so you could have a lousy boring ad and it might work because Darcy says something that breaks through the clutter and resonates.  But, I wouldn't trust whoever made this ad to make it well.  My guess is that they ran groups and gave into the "popularity trap" where the researchers and client mistake the most popular messages as being the most resonant when in reality they are just the most acceptable, not the most motivating.  Political consultants love focus group testing and are more often than not snared by the popularity trap (which is why their spots all look alike).  They also assume that people read and listen to complicated phrases and thoughts (they don't).  And, they also assume that people view political ads as special information (they don't) as opposed to yet another ad (they do).

BTW, I like Bill Hilsman/Northwoods ads for Lamont but don't think he's what we should be looking towards as our standard.  His work is spotty  Check out their corporate work (North Woods) really hit or miss.  The folks we want to get working for us are creatives from Fallon (think Citibank ads), Arnold Worldwide (think Truth campaign, Volkswagen), Crispin Porter (think Truth, Mini, Burger King), Martin Agency or some of the bigger New York Ad networks (like McCann, etc.) guys.


by lojo on Mon Aug 21, 2006 at 01:37:50 PM EST

Re: MyDD Accountability Adwatch: Darcy Burner (none / 0)

So, the problem is that -- in this age of clutter -- no one will pay attention to this ad who already doesn't like Darcy

EXACTLY! I don't know why Democratic political ad folks don't realize this, but that kind of ad just drones on in the background of the mind. It makes about as much impact as the music in an elevator. And, as you point out, it's so cliche it automatically brands her as a Politician. That's the overall theme of that ad: well, there's a Politician doing a Political ad.

I always think these ads are designed to impress people sitting in a dark screening room. They look nice, and if you really sift the information, it's good. But in the clutter of an actual TV viewing ... all you get is one impression from an ad, and from this one, you get "Politician. Blech."


by BriVT on Mon Aug 21, 2006 at 02:21:25 PM EST
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Brilliant! All we have to do is ... (none / 0)

... make every ad such a departure from all other ads that it commands immediate attention, and registers indelibly in memory.

Brilliant!


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by RonK Seattle on Mon Aug 21, 2006 at 02:41:56 PM EST
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Re: Brilliant! All we have to do is ... (none / 0)

Ah, the old RonK sarcasm ... it's been a while ... nice to see.

I didn't say what you said. All I said was that candidates shouldn't do ads that look exactly the same as every other political ad. It's sorta safe, I guess, and it looks nice. But it's useless to the point of being counter-productive. You can't claim to be a fresh face for change if your ads look like every other political ad ever made.

Mainly my point is: keep it simple, make one point strongly, and don't do the same old sh*t. Not that complicated a point. But Democrats rarely seem to do that.

Of course, if you can make every ad look fresh and new and lodge indelibly in the memory of all who see it ... good on ya! ;-)


by BriVT on Mon Aug 21, 2006 at 03:09:17 PM EST
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Re: Brilliant! All we have to do is ... (none / 0)

Well, make it a departure from other political ads.  Take a look at car ads -- you notice how they've gone away from the old GM formula of cars driving against a beautiful backdrop (well that is except for GM ads).  Volkswagen does this really well. They are actually talking to the consumer realizing that they need to be entertained because people are exposed to way more messages then their brain can handle.  David Shenk writes that consumers are exposed to over 3,000 messages a day from the TV, Radio, Outdoor,Online, Direct Mail, etc.  We all have -- as Shenk points out -- a collective case of ADD.  We pick out the messages that make us laugh or speak to us and ignore the rest of the huge flow of crap sent our way.  Consumers are not sitting rapt at the set (as focus group respondents are because they're getting paid their $50) waiting to learn more about Darcy.

So, it doesn't have to be different -- it just has to be effective at talking to a cynical, overwhelmed consumer who now more than ever expects ads to entertain or speak to them and tunes out the ones who don't.


by lojo on Tue Aug 22, 2006 at 02:04:01 PM EST
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Cut Through The Clutter (none / 0)

lojo nails it --

Bill Hillsman's ad campaigns work, because he understands that TV is an entertainment medium. A boring cookie cutter political ad is not necessarily bad, but they are an ineffective waste of resources -- they are an invitation to reach for the remote, which is not the desired response.

The best ads draw the viewers in, entertain them, and sell the candidate as a subtle part of the deal.

Hillsman's Jesse Ventura action figure ad worked, because Jesse was already a cartoon character.

Two of Hillsman's ads -- Suit and Change -- for unknown microbrew magnate, now Denver Mayor John Hickenlooper, worked because they were entertaining, took advantage of Hick's slightly geeky demeanor, and most of all -- they captured the public's desire for change (Webb fatigue) and desire for continuity (Denver works).

Going into the fall, Ned Lamont needs to play hardball, and run more ads like the one that has Lieberman morphing into Bush. My guess is that one had the greatest impact of all -- Ned Lamont is a great candidate who needs to sell himself, but Lieberman fatigue is the reason Ned had the opportunity to win the primary.


by ck on Mon Aug 21, 2006 at 02:28:28 PM EST
[ Parent ]

A valid question (none / 0)

is whether you can make these kinds of ads in races that don't already has as compelling a storyline.

I mean, making creative ads for Jesse Ventura, Kinky Friedman, that's not as tough as doing them for perhaps more competent but less media-friendly politicians.

Hillsman does great stuff, but he does get to pick his races.


by dantheman on Mon Aug 21, 2006 at 05:25:01 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Re: MyDD Accountability Adwatch: Darcy Burner (none / 0)

I'd like to see the info and insights in this thread organized and updated in some way.  There's some very good stuff here.  Is there a central place that  aggregates and organizes the collective netroots wisdom on ads and ad-makers that are good, bad and why...and who is hiring who and running what kind of ads...and to what effect?

This thread speaks to a key piece of the political transition underway, in that budgets and impacts of TV ads remain a major force in campaigns but, at the same time, a video-enabled Internet makes it easier for campaign video strategies to be developed in a more democratic way, with more and quicker feedback from more individuals.  This is a key element of the  power of the netroots. I think this thread is a good and constructive example and small step forward.  We need to build on it.


by mitchipd on Mon Aug 21, 2006 at 03:55:50 PM EST
[ Parent ]

First Ad: OK. First adwatch: flop. (3.00 / 0)

Start by understanding that the AD is not the CAMPAIGN. It's A part of AN ad series that's PART of a political campaign.

This ad is an intro -- a primer coat -- for a candidate who has not previously stood before the voters and is not well known in or out of politics, challenging a well-known incumbent.

Voters want to know who the candidate is ... or at least think they know who the candidate is. Anything else they learn about her, they'll attach to that identification. Job 1: "Who is Darcy Burner?"

If adwatch ignores context and purpose, it's just dogs watching tennis.

And Feldman has a bug up his ass about the American Dream? Really? What else is new?


¡Si, soy PUMA!
by RonK Seattle on Mon Aug 21, 2006 at 01:40:40 PM EST

Re: First Ad: OK. First adwatch: flop. (none / 0)

Ok, so I'm stupid.  I must be stupid, since I've criticized an ad that introduces a candidate but fails to mention that she is:

- a challenger

  • a Democrat
  • willing to challenge Bush

Your phrase about dogs watching tennis is clever, and not the first time you've used it to delegitimize conversations that you don't like.


by Matt Stoller on Mon Aug 21, 2006 at 01:52:34 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Bad dog! No treats for you! (3.00 / 0)

You think Darcy should bound into the homes of perfect strangers and declare "It's them or us!".

Do you understand that most persuadable voters are nonpartisan, or even antipartisan? Do you know how apolitical WA-08 is? Do you know that Darcy's opponent has never established a strong partisan identification? Do you realize there are 11 weeks to Election Day?

The ad is open to several legitimate criticisms, but I don't see them here.

Context. Purpose. Sit. Stay.


¡Si, soy PUMA!
by RonK Seattle on Mon Aug 21, 2006 at 02:36:40 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Re: Bad dog! No treats for you! (1.00 / 0)

Congratulations, RonK, you're banned.  When you call me a dog, you lose your right to participate in this community.

Everybody wins!


by Matt Stoller on Mon Aug 21, 2006 at 03:09:49 PM EST
[ Parent ]

way out of line (3.00 / 0)

As a member of this community, I petition you to reinstate RonK for what amounts to a tremendous showing of insecurity.  

Ron K's an important voice here, and I don't think he called you a dog - he just rolled with an admittedly bad dog metaphor.

Your writing's been awesome lately.  Please allow dissenting voices to it.  


by vault5151 on Mon Aug 21, 2006 at 05:24:47 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Re: way out of line (3.00 / 0)

Concur- was he really banned for saying sit!-That's ridiculous- I think it was a joke. No?


by RAULC on Mon Aug 21, 2006 at 05:47:19 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Re: way out of line (3.00 / 1)

Ok, I'll reinstate him and I'll consider this a warning.  

Dissent is a very good thing.  I just fear that his insults will intimidate others in this community into non-participation.  I concur that my judgment in this case might be in error, and I'll reverse myself out of deference to the community's wishes.


by Matt Stoller on Mon Aug 21, 2006 at 06:27:51 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Re: way out of line (none / 0)

Thank you Matt!

I agree wholeheartedly about McMahon and his crappy ad for a great candidate.


by vault5151 on Mon Aug 21, 2006 at 08:06:06 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Re: way out of line (none / 0)

I think it will take a little more than that to intimidate the MyDD crew.  I find KOS to be too homogenized and a bit boring. We don't want boring here. Banning right-wing trolls is fine but a good heated discussion among real contributors makes life interesting.


Children, have you any fish?
by FishOutofWater on Mon Aug 21, 2006 at 08:43:43 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Re: way out of line (none / 0)

RonK was completely correct in what he was saying and sadly, I afraid, Matt, you've gotten it completely wrong with your assessment of this ad, in this campaign, in this district (my own).  I am shocked that you even banned RonK for a second, and that you only reinstate him under a warning.


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by Daniel K on Tue Aug 22, 2006 at 03:23:44 AM EST
[ Parent ]

Re: Bad dog! No treats for you! (none / 0)

No district is apolitical. However, there are many people who are tired of politics as usual. The Democrats have an opportunity to run as outsiders and appeal to people who think we are on the wrong track - the vast majority of Americans. They must do that by running as Democrats.  Got that?

The Republicans are in power and people think they are taking the country in ther wrong direction.  Do you win votes by not declaring that you are a Democrat when the vast majority think that we are on the wrong track under Republican leadership?

People are antipartisan because they don't like what a party is doing or because they are sick of mealy mouthed consultant-speak coming out of politicians' mouths. A little plain talk and leadership in the right direction would win this district.


Children, have you any fish?
by FishOutofWater on Mon Aug 21, 2006 at 03:11:57 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Nope (3.00 / 0)

The 8th really is that apolitical and it's been that way for years. It's funny because it's smack dab in between the most liberal and most conservative districts in the state. Organizers and volunteers HATED calling into that area because it was so difficult to engage people even at a basic level, assuming you could even contact them.

East King County is a weird area. Tons of spawl, highly transient, with a lot of high-tech employment nowadays but it still has a huge rural component that's anti-government and wanting to secede from King County.

It's steadily becoming more Democratic but right now, probably more than anywhere else in the state, those who are plugged-in tend to self-identify as independents and vote a split ticket.

It's important to remember that Washington State as a whole isn't as liberal/Democratic as it might appear. The WA GOP steadily ran the party down into the ground after their gains in 1994 by running crazy people for statewide office while the WA Dems got their shit together and started taking back nearly everything they lost. But that doesn't change the fact that they were able to take over almost everything in the state.

The WA GOP finally wised up going into 2004 and found their "winning" formula - slick moderate-sounding conservatives like Reichert, Rossi, McKenna and now McGavick. I expect their local bench to get a lot better and Larsen, Smith, Baird and Inslee to face much stronger competition in their swing districts in the next few years.


by aexia on Mon Aug 21, 2006 at 06:09:31 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Re: Nope (none / 0)

They are anti-government until you try to take away their social security.

I don't know why more anti-government people aren't screaming bloody murder at the way this administration and this congress has government prying into every aspect of our private lives.  They even have bra inspectors at airports. People that want to be left alone by government should be mad as Hell. I know I am.

A few questions for you.

Is Bush and the Republican Congress popular in this district?  The DLC approach used to make sense for southern Dems and rural district Dems because the national party was unpopular. Now, even here in NC, Bush and the Republican Congress is unpopular. Does she want to nationalize her race? If she doesn't nationalize it why won't they vote for the incumbent who has better name recognition?

By the way, I have done a fair amount of business in the beautiful tri-cities. I know a little about the conservative part of the state. Have you heard of the  N-reactor and the trenches that hot water was dumped into? Have you been ontop of Rattlesnake Mt?


Children, have you any fish?
by FishOutofWater on Mon Aug 21, 2006 at 10:07:24 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Re: Nope (none / 0)

Question for you: which part of the district?

The southern part is rural and stretched to Mt Rainier.  This is strongly a red area.

The northern part is suburban purple, with a touch of blue.  It includes Microsoftland, where so many work all night and don't bother to vote.

This is a swing district for a reason: it hasn't yet been reconfigured to favor either party.

Therefore Darcy has to tread carefully as she builds name recognition in a race against a well known incumbent.

If she ran the kind of ad Matt wants as her first ad she'd turn off a lot of potention supporters - that's for sure.


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by Daniel K on Tue Aug 22, 2006 at 03:29:35 AM EST
[ Parent ]

Re: Nope (none / 0)

Well, the ad was targeted at women from conservative areas, like where my wife was born and raised, yet she didn't like it. I'll buy your argument about not going aggressive on the first ad but I don't know how to help you if you won't listen to the many intelligent replies of people in advertising and media that this ad was ineffective at generating a positive feeling for the candidate.

My wife gave a small amount of money to Darcy's campaign.  After seeing the video she said she isn't going to send any more money until the campaign gets its act together. I wish you and Darcy luck.


Children, have you any fish?
by FishOutofWater on Tue Aug 22, 2006 at 02:57:43 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Name ID (3.00 / 0)

Matt, I think you have to put this ad in context.  As good a candidate as Darcy is, and for all the success she has had in transforming this race into a toss-up, she still has relatively little name ID in her district compared to the incumbent Dave Reichert. So while I generally agree with your specific, individual criticisms, I do not agree that this ad, as an introduction to voters, is a total failure.

This is a swing district with a fairly large contingent of independents and soft partisans who will not cast their vote based on the letter next to the candidate's name.  These voters are generally unhappy with the President and the Republican leadership, and they would like to see the Democrats take control so there can be some checks and balances... but for the most part, they don't yet know that Reichert is part of the problem.  What Darcy needs to do first and foremost is set herself up as a reasonable, likable alternative -- before the R's attempt to define her with negative ads.  This is something that John Kerry, for example, miserably failed to do.

This is also the first ad of many, produced with a specific strategy in mind.  I'm told they went with a 60-second ad because they play better with women, and I was assured that future ads would strongly play up party identification.  She also speaks quite eloquently on the Iraq war, and features it in her stump, and I expect that issue to be highlighted in future ads.

So I'm hoping, that when the campaign is over, and this ad is viewed within the context of the entire ad campaign, you might not be so disappointed.


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by Goldy on Mon Aug 21, 2006 at 01:50:15 PM EST

Re: Name ID (none / 0)

What Darcy needs to do first and foremost is set herself up as a reasonable, likable alternative -- before the R's attempt to define her with negative ads.  This is something that John Kerry, for example, miserably failed to do.

John Kerry pursued this exact strategy.  He put up bland and generic positive bio spots with happy theme music, and then got destroyed with a memorable negative campaign.


by Matt Stoller on Mon Aug 21, 2006 at 01:54:01 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Re: Name ID (none / 0)

Well, I was the one who introduced the Kerry analogy, but they're not entirely analogous.  Yes, Kerry went bland and generic, but he was also branded a "flip-flopper" before he got started. Darcy on the other hand is a complete unknown.

I look at this initial ad as the TV equivalent of a yard sign.  The main goal is to raise some name ID early so she's not down 20 points in the first round of public polls.

Like I side, I agree with much of your critique, but I don't expect you will be disappointed once the entire campaign unfolds.


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by Goldy on Mon Aug 21, 2006 at 02:59:27 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Silly Goldy (3.00 / 0)

Bringing that relevant local perspective to bear.

Wouldn't you much rather jump down Darcy's throat for not throwing enough red meat to satisfy out of state bloggers? I mean, they're the real audience for these ads, not the actual voters of the district.


by aexia on Mon Aug 21, 2006 at 05:42:46 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Red Meat (none / 0)

Red meat - you mean showing her party affiliation? Is she afraid to run as a Democrat? She didn't even need to say anything about her party if she had a visual in the ad that said Democrat.

Are you afraid to say that you're a Democrat?


Children, have you any fish?
by FishOutofWater on Mon Aug 21, 2006 at 10:16:30 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Re: Name ID (none / 0)

You hit the nail on the head Goldy - the district doesn't yet recognize that Reichert is part of the Republican machine - because he has done a pretty good job of making himself out to be an independent.  Were Darcy to go after Bush she'd be missing the mark.  She needs to first get her own name known, then make every effort she can to tie Reichert to Bush.  That should be easy to do once they flash a lot of photos of Bush and Reichert together on Air Force One, but that's for a future ad.  Not ad #1.

People can only handle so much info at one time.


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by Daniel K on Tue Aug 22, 2006 at 03:34:05 AM EST
[ Parent ]

What?? (none / 0)

I have a bug somewhere? This is what Stoller wrote:

the use of horrifically vague and loose DLC-phrases like 'make health care affordable' and 'improving education to create opportunity' (what does that even mean?)

I'm just pushing that point harder.  No bug up nowhere.  The DLC 'American Dream' initiative is bland, bland, bland and bland.


by Jeffrey Feldman on Mon Aug 21, 2006 at 01:51:07 PM EST

A definite disappointment (none / 0)

I've no professional expertise in the area. But this strikes me as pretty dire.

(I'm certainly open to evidence of counterintuitive effects - I dismissed the Swift Boat stuff at the time...)

Firstly, I agree with Matt that not working Iraq into the ad, and appearing to run from the Dem brand, were not good.

But my queries were rather broader:

Everything seemed so damned rushed: since time was obviously the limiting factor, the problem was that they decided to cram in all bar the kitchen sink. And Iraq and the Dem party...

We guys viewing the spot on Youtube are not a fair test: we're informed, motivated, concentrating, partisan (up to a point).

And - speaking personally - despite all that, the ad made my brain hurt.

Firstly, it suffered from a terminal form of Powerpoint Disease: so much copy on the screen fighting the VO (and with Darcy's pieces to camera), like two people speaking (loudly!) at once.

To add to the problem, the text WAS ALL IN ALL CAPS. Mary, mother of Jesus! The reason why bloggers and message boards hate ALL CAPS is because they're so fucking hard to read!

When you've got all-caps copy appearing suddenly on, and swooping around, the screen, competing with the VO, that's a recipe for mass channel flipping.

Furthermore, the VO did nothing to sell the product: I've heard PA announcements in airports given with more passion and commitment!

But, with the best will in the world, with so many words to lever in, I'm not surprised.

(And I agree with Matt, BTW, about the quality of the prose: this seemed like bleeding chunks of New Direction (or is it Six for 06 now?) in their insipidness.)

A big disappointment was with Darcy herself. She does this annoying thing of letting her voice tail off in pitch and volume at the end of sentences - lack of breath control, I think that is. (The American dream line; and the putting our priorities first tagline, for crying out loud!)

Which not only sounds limp, unprofessional, uncommitted - but also stops the audience getting some of her most important points!

She needs training, clearly.

The whole thing was one big muddle. Nothing much of Darcy comes across the screen - nothing much of her policies (if she has any).

I can't imagine a decent ad agency daring to put up something as weak to one of its clients.

Yet I assume the consultants and hangers-on will be handsomely paid for it.


by skeptic06 on Mon Aug 21, 2006 at 01:57:51 PM EST

Re: MyDD Accountability Adwatch: Darcy Burner (none / 0)

It's a poor ad. The bio stuff is boring and irrelevant- it is a waste of time and money. The issues discussion at the end is better but short on specifics- it is better to hammer one issue than repeat the mantra for several- did she say she is for the minimum wage? Production values are average. One thing does come through, she is a very politically attractive candidate: well spoken, comes across as likeable and smart.


by RAULC on Mon Aug 21, 2006 at 01:58:44 PM EST

Re: MyDD Accountability Adwatch: Darcy Burner (3.00 / 0)

The ad struck me as too soft.  She never asked people to vote for her or even talk with her or her campaign.  I'm no advertising pro, but this just did not stand out at all.


by David Kowalski on Mon Aug 21, 2006 at 02:05:02 PM EST

Re: MyDD Accountability Adwatch: Darcy Burner (none / 0)

I am glad- and I am not being snarky- that y'all are focused on the form rather than solely on the substance. I think one of the issues with the left is that it forgets form is as important as substance when it comes to communicating to people. I have nothing to add other than I agree with a lot of what's been said a long this thread about the stylistic failures. The worst thing you can have is not a 'bad ad,' but one that is forgettable. With limited resources, you had better make sure you aren't putting  out forgettable ones.


by bruh21 on Mon Aug 21, 2006 at 02:07:35 PM EST

Re: MyDD Accountability Adwatch: Darcy Burner (none / 0)

That was my take. Nothing clever, nothing memorable. It was a 30 second spot that was padded into a minute.

An introductory spot shouldn't be an attack on Bush or focus on Iraq, but give me something creative and distinct, to have a reason to remember your name and anticipate the next commercial.


by jagakid on Mon Aug 21, 2006 at 02:18:27 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Re: MyDD Accountability Adwatch: Darcy Burner (none / 0)

Matt makes much of hte lack of mention of her party affiliation (or mention of Bush and Reichart's).

What is the party affil. of viewers in the markets where this ad will air?   You don't want your first ad to start driving a wedge, do you?

"Changing the direction" in the last frame seems to hint at where she's heading.

It is bland, though.


by freedc on Mon Aug 21, 2006 at 02:15:39 PM EST

Re: MyDD Accountability Adwatch: Darcy Burner (none / 0)

When you try to taylor your message to fit the demographic you have already lost the moral high ground. You either believe in your message or you don't. The electorate sees through the different story for different voter scam.


by eddieb on Mon Aug 21, 2006 at 02:27:32 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Too simplistic. (none / 0)

You're not going to run the same message in say, Brooklyn, as you are going to in rural Nebraska, for example.

You absolutely must look at the socioeconomic make-up of a district before you decide how to pitch yourself to them.


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by HellofaSandwich on Mon Aug 21, 2006 at 02:34:39 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Re: Too simplistic. (none / 0)

The District currently is very evenly split. It is a former Republican stronghold, and is filled with extremely wealthy neighborhoods, but lately it has been trending a little more blue.  I think both Kerry (and maybe Gore in 2000?) carried the District by a small margin.  

Burner is running against a very well known incumbant, Dave Reichart, who has attempted to cultivate a reputation for being a moderate.  Before he ran for Congress, Reichart was the King County Sherriff, and was fairly popular and well-known, given that he "caught" the Green River Killer.


by taylormattd on Mon Aug 21, 2006 at 03:45:32 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Re: MyDD Accountability Adwatch: Darcy Burner (none / 0)

But we do see that the gimmick that a advertising guy from outside the beltway used in CT is now gonna be a standard coda......


by jayackroyd on Mon Aug 21, 2006 at 02:20:44 PM EST

Re: MyDD Accountability Adwatch: Darcy Burner (none / 0)

To bad she left out the part about being a Democrat  against the Bush Iraq war.


by eddieb on Mon Aug 21, 2006 at 02:31:57 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Re: MyDD Accountability Adwatch: Darcy Burner (none / 0)

Au contraire.  People will warm up to the person, and then when they "discover" she is a Democrat, those adverse to that might not so quickly run for the exits because of their positive first opinion.


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by Daniel K on Tue Aug 22, 2006 at 03:36:40 AM EST
[ Parent ]

Re: MyDD Accountability Adwatch: Darcy Burner (none / 0)

I wonder who is her "CONSULTANT". This ad appears to be put together by a DLC committee. Apparently some one has convinced her to try and offend NO ONE. I felt like I was going back to the 2002 Kerry campaign only he was in drag! Some one has to shake Darcy by the shoulders and scream "NED! NED! LAMONT! - It's the WAR STUPID!" JEESE


by eddieb on Mon Aug 21, 2006 at 02:22:11 PM EST

Re: MyDD Accountability Adwatch: Darcy Burner (none / 0)

As someone who has been considering volunteering for the campaign, I was really disappointed when I first saw this ad. It just seems particularly unmemorable. I don't care whether this ad is the first in a series. There's no point in spending a lot of money on an ad that no one will remember.

There's simply no excuse for not identifying herself as a Democrat, especially in King County, and especially especially during this election cycle.


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by nstrauss on Mon Aug 21, 2006 at 02:35:06 PM EST

Do Volunteer (none / 0)

It's a good campaign, good energy, good people.  And Darcy is great.  And it's very needed - to get out and talk with voters.  This is a relatively non-political, non-partisan district.  Working for a wonderful candidate like Darcy is a good way to get out there talking to people.  


We can do better. Together we will.
by lynnallen on Tue Aug 22, 2006 at 12:00:07 AM EST
[ Parent ]

Darcy's problem is that nobody's ever heard of her (3.00 / 1)

That is, outside of the politico-sphere, anyway.  Talk to Joe Random anywhere in the WA-08, and they've never heard of her.

Job One right now is to change that.  She's doing it now, while ad time is cheap, to paint a positive message of herself before Reichert introduces her to the district with a negative message.

I'm not surprised at all by this ad.  It correlates 100% with her district polling, which says that in an "if the election were held today" question, when all people know about her is that basic biographical sketch information, she beats Reichert hands-down.

People in this district are really unhappy with Reichert and with the Republicans in general.  I don't know if that ad is the same one I would have made if I were in her shoes, but I can see why she did it.  She has good reasons for it, and I'm sure the issue ads will come later.


by jasonbl on Mon Aug 21, 2006 at 02:39:29 PM EST

Re: Darcy's problem is that nobody's ever heard of (none / 0)

Based on some of your posts here and at DKos... is it correct to assume you worked on some campaigns or work in advertising?


by Newsie8200 on Mon Aug 21, 2006 at 04:10:59 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Re: Darcy's problem is that nobody's ever heard of (none / 0)

No, actually.  I've been involved with Darcy's campaign for almost a year now, ever since I received an amazingly good fund-raising letter from her, when her campaign was just getting going.

To this day I have no idea why I actually opened that letter, rather than throwing it in the trash like I usually would with something like that.  But I'm glad I didn't.  What I found inside was an honest, heartfelt, very open letter about Darcy, what she's all about, and why she's running.

I sent her a check along with a letter asking if she could give me a call to talk about some issues.  She called, we had lunch, and she got me on board.  I don't work for her campaign, but I'm an ardent supporter of hers.  I haven't been this excited about a candidate ever.  Literally.  Since I started voting in 1988, there has been no one whose priorities align so well with my own, and whose warmth and personal integrity comes across so strongly, as Darcy Burner.

She is exactly the sort of person I want representing me in Congress.  After two years of non-representation by Dave Reichert, I'm incredibly motivated to help her get elected.  I've donated as much to her as the FEC will allow.  I held a fund-raiser at my house last September that edged her over her quarterly reporting deadline goal.  I'm going to hold another fund-raiser in the next month or two, as soon as schedules can be worked out.

So no.  I don't work on her campaign, nor have I ever worked on anyone else's campaign staff.  And I don't work in advertising (software, actually).  But I do know Darcy, and I have been priveledged to speak with her on several occasions and at some length about her campaign, so I write with a bit more insight, perhaps, than one might have from over inside the beltway.


by jasonbl on Tue Aug 22, 2006 at 04:05:24 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Re: MyDD Accountability Adwatch: Darcy Burner (none / 0)

I agree with most above: this ad is vague and so slickly made it defeats itself. Political ads should be as simply made as possible, with only one definite point to make.

Here's an ad made by the campaign I'm working with (Bob Johnson in NY-23):

YouTube

It's not the slickest ad; it cost next-to-nothing to produce. But it's only message is to create one feeling (unease) and ask one question (what is John McHugh doing?). And then to introduce our candidate in a highly contrasting setting. It's only real purpose is to associate McHugh with a feeling of unease and inaction, and Bob with a feeling of relief and action. That's it. And the audio is quiet because quiet can often be the only thing that gets people to pay attention.

Where was John McHugh? It's accountability at its simplest. Simple messages about a small number of themes ... it's the only way to cut through, imo. And, for my money, doing simpler ads that look different from the usual political ad is an end in and of itself.


by BriVT on Mon Aug 21, 2006 at 02:53:52 PM EST

Re: MyDD Accountability Adwatch: Darcy Burner (none / 0)

Since when is your PERSONAL reaction the final analysis? Do you know her district as intimately as her? Do you know what HER constituents react to as directly as did the people in ONE District with an entirely different social structure and economic reality reacted to?

Damn I'm tired of YOU trying to be the only one with any knowledge on MyDD. Jesus, your posts are overwhelmingly judgmental..

The reader would think, if they hadn't substantial political experience that makes yours look like a teacup in a hurricane, that politics truly is black and white instead of being a game of compromise and grays.

The name of the game is getting elected!

And each district is different and many times completely different.

Do I think this is as effective a commercial as it could have been? Hell no. But is it a failure by her standards...obviously not.

I lean more to the Bill Hillsman school of commercials.

But if she does not, she doesn't need a front-pager on MyDD telling her district and campaign what failures they are because he didn't like or because it didn't follow ONE poll in ONE district in an unlike kind area.


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by BigDog on Mon Aug 21, 2006 at 02:58:48 PM EST

Re: MyDD Accountability Adwatch: Darcy Burner (3.00 / 0)

This commercial didn't say that Burner is:

A Democrat
A challenger
Against Bush on Iraq


by Matt Stoller on Mon Aug 21, 2006 at 03:06:17 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Re: MyDD Accountability Adwatch: Darcy Burner (none / 0)

In this case none of those things are bad.

- No negative pre-judgements because of her political affiliation.

  • Equal billing in a congressional race because a challenger also means she's not the incumbent, also means she has less experience than the incumbent, also means the incumbent could just as well be the challenger.
  • Not mentioning Bush in Ad #1 is fine, people can be turned off by partisan politics as the first words a newcomer voices in her first TV ad.  That will come later as the campaign will paint Reichert and Bush as basically one and the same.


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by Daniel K on Tue Aug 22, 2006 at 03:42:24 AM EST
[ Parent ]

'people can be turned off by partisan politics' (none / 0)

Oh, really? It amazes me that this argument about voter fear of 'partisan politics' circulates virtually unchallenged.  

Here's one way to respond:  Imagine you are a customer in a restaurant and you order hot soup.  When the soup arrives to your table, you taste it and--it's cold.  So you say, "Waiter, my soup is cold." The waiter looks at the soup, looks at you, then responds: "Ah, yes.  We served you cold soup because we didn't want to startle you with hot soup.  We know most customers are not used to hot food, so we want to make sure we don't scare them off by bringing them a first course that's hot.  We're concerned that if we serve our soup hot, customers will just get up and leave the restaurant--or worse: never eat again.  The cold soup is not really for you to eat.  It's just an introduction to the idea that we serve food.  It gives you a sense of what the soup looks like, what it feels like to have soup on your table.  Also, since the soup is a new item and many of our customers like salad instead of soup, we want to make sure the soup and salad are the same temperature.  If we serve hot soup, many customers might taste it and say, 'Oh no...this isn't salad.'  And besides, we have three more courses to serve you.   Now that we have your trust, we'll serve your next course a little warmer."  

Psychology and marketing theories are not excuses for cold soup.


by Jeffrey Feldman on Tue Aug 22, 2006 at 09:16:56 AM EST
[ Parent ]

Re: 'people can be turned off by partisan politics (3.00 / 1)

Wow - you people are so out of touch with the dynamics of this particular race - thank goodness this race is not being run and directed by D.C. or national Democrats!


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by Daniel K on Tue Aug 22, 2006 at 11:05:05 AM EST
[ Parent ]

Re: 'people can be turned off by partisan politics (none / 0)

LOL    OK...I'm 'out of touch.'

But all that ad does is make it perfectly clear that Burner's consultatns are afraid that she doesn't look substantial enough to challenge an incumbent.  So they've packaged her in a slick, over-produced spot that fails to make any real impression.  Shit happens.  A dull ad isn't the end of the world and defending it based on psychology, marketing theories and local knowledge is a waste of time.  That was my point.

I don't believe for a second that a candidate wants us to pull our punches. Quite the contrary.  Someone like Darcy Burner enjoys being a netroots candidate because she values this exact type of discussion.  


by Jeffrey Feldman on Tue Aug 22, 2006 at 11:47:16 AM EST
[ Parent ]

Re: MyDD Accountability Adwatch: Darcy Burner (none / 0)

Well, doesn't the ad make one wonder what she's up to, assuming she doesn't have oodles of money to do this and then to do ads that will nationalize her campaign?  (See below).


by David in NY on Mon Aug 21, 2006 at 03:08:42 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Re: MyDD Accountability Adwatch: Darcy Burner (none / 0)

Bad media advice or amateur. Agreed a bad ad.


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by BigDog on Mon Aug 21, 2006 at 05:52:39 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Re: MyDD Accountability Adwatch: Darcy Burner (none / 0)

The best way I can describe the ad is it is a one minute sleeping pill. This kind of ad spurs watchers to get up and look in the fridge and make a Two minute egg. It is just plain bland even Lawrence Welk would find it dull. I think I have made my point.


by eddieb on Mon Aug 21, 2006 at 05:19:00 PM EST
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Re: MyDD Accountability Adwatch: Darcy Burner (none / 0)

Typical Political ad in that regard.


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by BigDog on Mon Aug 21, 2006 at 05:53:13 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Re: MyDD Accountability Adwatch: Darcy Burner (3.00 / 1)

Is this an open seat or an attempt to overcome the incumbent?  

If the latter, then I think the crucial point is to get in on the national campaign -- Iraq, Bush, accountability in Washington for the last 6 years.  That's what's going to ovecome an incumbent's advantage.  And if she's not long on money (which Democratic challegers are not, by definition), she probably shouldn't be wasting it with ads that don't nationalize her race.


by David in NY on Mon Aug 21, 2006 at 03:05:46 PM EST

Re: MyDD Accountability Adwatch: Darcy Burner (none / 0)

I've had direct inside experience with political advertising in five political campaigns, and my first reaction is:
Don't shoot your own soldiers!

My second reaction is that nothing's simple and there's almost never a single ad that wins it for anyone: you know, different strokes for different folks, that kind of thing.  

Third, I take it that a decision was made to build her positives some more before presenting the incumbent's negatives.  The old story is that voters won't listen to the negative ads unless they have some level of trust in the one making them, hence the rule that positive ads come first.  This old story may not be universally applicable, but there is some logic to it. (As an aside, this predicts that, since Bush has become explicitly not trusted, the usual round of swiftboating negative ads from the Republicans may be less effective this time around.)

Now, this much is also clear: positive ads alone can't win elections against an incumbent.  NOT GONNA DO IT!  So I have to hope the negative ads are on the way, once they are confident that her positives are strong enough.  


by Wilderwood on Mon Aug 21, 2006 at 03:13:53 PM EST

Re: MyDD Accountability Adwatch: Darcy Burner (none / 0)

yeah but as I say below- accepting what you say as true- is the ad memorable enough to start to do the job of increasing her name recognition and give her positives. Answered this question while considering that we live in a media saturated world so things have to be done with the goal of standing out from as someone above calls chatter. Is this ad with limited resources available accomplishing even the goal you state they want to accomplish?


by bruh21 on Mon Aug 21, 2006 at 03:41:04 PM EST
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Re: MyDD Accountability Adwatch: Darcy Burner (none / 0)

Having read further comments- i think of you confuse style with substance. Matt, kind of does that, by mixing one with the other. Even if some of you think that the ad should have been light as it is- light should not, and can not equal staid and boring if the goal as you say is to attracted name recognition. can you honestly say that you would remember this person if you werent already into politics? that's the real honest broker here: Memorability.


by bruh21 on Mon Aug 21, 2006 at 03:38:42 PM EST

Re: MyDD Accountability Adwatch: Darcy Burner (none / 0)

Agree.  Eliot Spitzer has done a great job of that in NY with ads that are light on substance but with great themes and very memorable.


by John Mills on Mon Aug 21, 2006 at 04:33:34 PM EST
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Re: MyDD Accountability Adwatch: Darcy Burner (none / 0)

We don't know what other ads they have planned.  You can't comment on everything or the viewer can't focus on your message.  Take Nike for example.  Nike ads focus on 1 of 3 things; the brand, the product or the messenger.  See enough commercials and all 3 are tied together permantly in the consumer's mind.

Since this was her first ad, I viewed this as an introduction to Darcy and first impressions need to be comfortable and personal and I think she succeeded quite well in introducing herself through this ad.  The real test will be in the follow up ads.  If she does another ad very similar to this leaving out the 3 items Matt noted then yes, I would say the ads are a failure.  But if her next ad is about national security and Iraq and the one after that is about republican corruption and failed republican policy then she's doing great with these.


by tomanjeri on Mon Aug 21, 2006 at 03:38:54 PM EST

Re: MyDD Accountability Adwatch: Darcy Burner (3.00 / 1)

Okay, I just read the info about Steve McMahon, which is damned troubling . . . but I'm gonna give you my rxn to the ad as if I didn't know who made it.

First, I live in WA08, and I'm in what I bet is the target demographic:  female, parent, employed, in the shaky middle class.  

And my takeaway was:  "Hey, a woman.  Microsoft = smart.  Military family = good.  Not born to wealth = she gets it."  I turn away willing to hear more--not blown away, not cheering, but ready to give her a chance.  I'm a Democrat, of course, but I think that the purpose of this spot was to set that up: woman, smart, good, gets it.  Done.

All caps, fuzzy language, voice-overs . . . dunno. That's just insider stuff to the average viewer, though you're correct in saying that the rest of the ads will have to be a lot spicier.

The key to winning this race, imo, is to get Darcy in a debate with Dave.  She will kick his ass--in the 2004 campaign he actually left the stage when things got difficult.  

Also, he gave an interview in which he said that when the "leadership" (Delay) tells him what to do, he generally does it.  You can anticipate a sparkling ad with that bit prominently featured, I am sure.

I would just remind everybody that normal people are finishing their vacations and thinking about school clothes--the election is just barely on the radar.  


by dagny on Mon Aug 21, 2006 at 04:08:57 PM EST

It's ONE ad. (none / 0)

This is one ad in a series that will create an overall narrative for the race.

It's an intro ad. Contrast and attack ads have to be a part of the campaign, but you don't need to do everything in the first ad.

If anything good ad campaigns lay out key points, then, in the final ads, make them all tie together in a strong cohesive message.


by Newsie8200 on Mon Aug 21, 2006 at 04:09:07 PM EST

Re: MyDD Accountability Adwatch: Darcy Burner (none / 0)

It is not a horrible ad for an introductory one but it could have been stronger.  I agree the two big mistakes were not mentioning that she is a Democrat (in a Democratic year, wtf) or mentioning holding Bush accountable on Iraq or anything else.  She could have tied her husband being a military veteran very neatly into accountability in Iraq.

Having watched how the Repubs morphed Dems all over the country into Clinton in 1994, if the Dems don't do something similar with Bush considering he is much more unpopular than Clinton in 1994, they are nuts.  Bush is an albatros around the Repubs neck and we should use him to sink them.


by John Mills on Mon Aug 21, 2006 at 04:15:35 PM EST

Burner's Ad Sucks (none / 0)

I have experience in marketing and advertising. Granted it is more product-based or even issue-based than political-candidate-based.

Those caveats aside, I echo Matt's concerns that this ad is counter-productive. The one thing I know for sure about placing TV ads is that it is very expensive. For a primary candidate, no dollar should be wasted. It is cheaper to change the ad before it runs on TV than to run it and have to change when it makes no dent for her in the polls. By then, her opponent will have had a chance to run his ads and she may already be playing catch up.

This ads lacks basics as Matt and others have pointed out. Frankly, I come away from this ad thinking that my own mother would be as qualified to run for Congress if someone nice and mom-like is what's required.

We are facing unprecendented threats as a nation. What does she plan to do about that? Her ad is like being softly caressed with baby powdery cottony bullsh*t. We are getting enough platitudes from the Republicans in Congress, thanks.

I think part of the challenge here is that no one has put up an example of an effective ad of the type that hits the important points that people care about.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CJ_S0dBHw 9c

There are more of Rales' ads here:

http://www.youtube.com/profile?user=Rale sForSenate


by Anouke on Mon Aug 21, 2006 at 04:25:35 PM EST

Re: Burner's Ad Sucks (none / 0)

Her ad is like being softly caressed with baby powdery cottony bullsh*t.

I'm pretty sure that will be the Line Of The Day...
by skeptic06 on Mon Aug 21, 2006 at 05:53:04 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Organizing all this stuff (none / 0)

Is there an efficient way within MyDD (or some other site) to create easy to navigate web pages with links to the ads of key campaigns, accompanied by some history of the campaign (candidate, spending, consultants, issues, opponents, districts, polling, web sites, blog threads, etc.)?  This could be used to promote candidates, but the purpose I have in mind is to efficiently synthesize the lessons of campaigns around the country so they can benefit other campaigns...and create a highly efficient virtuous cycle of developing winning strategies.

This is off topic, but threads like this remind me of the limits of blogs and the need for more web-based tools and formats for harnessing the energy, info and insights of the netroots, which are all evident in this thread, which encompasses a wide range of views and backgrounds.  

One simple and labor intensive idea is to have someone review threads like this and distill the key points of information, agreement, disagreement, etc.  That could become part of the content on this particular campaign's "ad page."  And it would be tagged in a way that someone looking for generic ad-strategy insights could easily find it and quickly digest the key points raised in this "ad evaluation" thread.

I'd volunteer to do this, but don't have time right now.  But as someone who synthesizes information and insights from multiple sources into strategic intelligence and market projections for a living, I can't help but feel that a meaty blog like MyDD is a source that cries out for more tools for distilling, synthesizing and generalizing the collective netroots experience and wisdom.  And I'm pretty sure the same would apply to the broader blogosphere.


by mitchipd on Mon Aug 21, 2006 at 04:36:41 PM EST

Re: Organizing all this stuff (none / 0)

I think tagging would be a nice kludgy way to do it in the absense of real technical investment.


by Matt Stoller on Mon Aug 21, 2006 at 05:25:50 PM EST
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Re: Organizing all this stuff (none / 0)

How about having some MyDDers collaborate in some way on developing a shared structure of tags that could allow for a reasonably efficient "drill-down" on key topics (like this one).  The tags you used are a start, and I can see that they evolved from this post to the follow-up.  It might be nice to be able to tag individual comments.  I'm guessing that's not an available feature, but maybe its one that could be added without too much work.  Is this site Scoop-based?

From my perspective, one nice thing about tagging based on a shared (but flexible enough) tagging structure is that it would allow folks with little time (like me) to add just a few seconds to the time we spend reading a thread to add one or more tags that could help put that thread (and possibly even some of its more valuable individual comments)into a more organized and searchable structure.

Tags are great, but I think they work best for some purposes (like focused research) with some consistent structure.  That shouldn't preclude individual/idiosyncratic tags, and there seems to be room for both.

Once this was done for MyDD, this same tagging structure could be shared with other sites (e.g., the state blogs listed on MyDD.  This, in turn, could provide the tag-based "hooks" for software that might be able to search and aggregate tag-based groupings of content.  This might be built around a combination of RSS and tagging, where people could subscribe to posts, threads, comments, podcasts and videos based on specific sets of tags they're most interested in.  

Add in a ranking-based filtering and/or sorting, and I think you've got a pretty good way to take the content of many blog-based free-form discussions and turn that same content into a more effective tool for political education, communication, collaboration and mobilization, all of which can help accelerate the systemic change we're trying to achieve.

A feature might even be included that allows people to contact other people that subscribe to the same tags they do (and maybe also to be able to remain "private" if you don't want to be contacted by others interested in your subscribed tags).  That could encourage ongoing discussions and even action-oriented collaboration in pretty specific areas.

Anyway...maybe something to think about.  


by mitchipd on Mon Aug 21, 2006 at 06:54:06 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Darcy Burner (none / 0)

The ad is a failure. I've seen Darcy Burner speak twice and her story is powerful and her delivery is compelling, and serious. A much better ad would just point the camera.

One of the most charismatic photos is Darcy holding her child, tucked into her neck. Every mom knows that hold. I would like an ad that shows the photo with Darcy telling her story of getting into politics because of her son. Another ad could tell her story of friends and relatives in the servic and why it is personal with her. Show photos of Ft. Lewis and McChord AFB, the Va Hospital here.

Always the voice should be Darcy's. Talking about The Danger. The Accountability. Her voice is unique.


by mrobinsong on Mon Aug 21, 2006 at 07:22:48 PM EST

Re: Darcy Burner (none / 0)

If you mean this one, I'm not too keen on it as a photo, but the idea of cute mother holding cute child, Mommy for Congress - that's all great.

And using a montage of really great Darcy/kid pics with a Darcy VO explaining how she went into politics for her child's sake - knockout!

And, as you say, there's lots of other stuff in her life to make use of.

The personal is political and all that...


by skeptic06 on Mon Aug 21, 2006 at 08:13:00 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Re: MyDD Accountability Adwatch: Darcy Burner (none / 0)

Yes, you're being too harsh.

Why?  Three reasons:

1) Because applying the message lessons learned in a special election in a Republican-leaning seat in California to a general election in the Seattle suburbs is comparing apples to oranges.  

In the absence of knowing what messages work in Burner's specific district, calling this ad a failure because of what polled well on the other end of the West Coast makes no sense.

Every district is different.  What might play well in California might not play the same in Seattle.  

The CA-50 stuff was great.  Everyone who was involved deserves a pat on the back.  

But you can't assume that what was or would have been effective in CA-50 will automatically be effective somewhere else.  

Making that assumption is dangerous, and encouraging candidates to follow the lessons of CA-50 and then bashing their ads as failures if they don't is irresponsible and naive.  

2) This is one of what will likely be many communications from the campaign on TV, in the mail, via phonebanks, via e-mail, via her web site, etc.  You can't cram every single message into one ad.  

This ad introduces the candidate as a person.  It's now August.  There will be lots of opportunities for her to talk about issues as the campaign progresses.

3) Given that this is one of a series of commercials, what this ad does is not only introduce herself and her priorities, but set up direct contrasts with her opponent that can be discussed in later communications.  

In essence, it's moving one piece on a chess board in order to set the stage for future moves.

Is it a great spot?  No.  But it does what it needs to do:  introduce her, and lay the groundwork for future communications and contrasts with her opponent.


by Politicalhack06 on Mon Aug 21, 2006 at 08:17:56 PM EST

Re: MyDD Accountability Adwatch: Darcy Burner (none / 0)

Ad guy here.  Five years newspaper, several political campaigns etc.

It doesn't matter what medium you use, but what I learned is one-third to one-half of the space is the dominant theme.  Why should you use something you are not using right now?  Advertising is about new customers.  If you are going to swipe somebody elses customers, you better give them a damn good reason for doing so.

Try this:  Spring and summer sale.  Come see us.

Vote for me because I'm rilly sweet.  

Both are fragile budget breakers.


http://kittenstomper.blogspot.com/
by Oilfieldguy on Mon Aug 21, 2006 at 08:21:59 PM EST

Re: MyDD Accountability Adwatch: Darcy Burner (none / 0)

I have done some marketing work in the past. (I'm not in marketing now, just to be clear hehe)

There's a lot of good stuff in that ad. But there are some problems.

1. It's Dull! Total yawner.

2. As Matt pointed out, it ignores the big Dem issues of this cycle, ie Iraq, BushCo, extra-constitutional govt actions, etc.

3. Definitely needs more energetic music.

Think about your tv watching. You're sitting down to watch programming. Commercials come on and most people leave the room, change the channel, or sit staring at the screen zoned out. You need content and presentation that will seize someone's attention and get them to actually watch the spot, instead of doing something else.

Which commercials are more memorable to you? Those Geico commercials, or something else? She doesn't need talking geckos, or a heavy metal soundtrack, or lots of seizure-inducing strobe lights, but just about anything would liven that up.


by Kurt on Mon Aug 21, 2006 at 08:38:31 PM EST

Re: MyDD Accountability Adwatch: Darcy Burner (none / 0)

Politicians are all the same. Don't believe it? Tell me what's different about her from watching this ad.

That's the problem with the ad. The candidate's name and message are introduced through a cloud of white noise, and we're expecting the public to later "sharpen its focus" on who she is?

She's driving her father's Oldsmobile to the barricades with this snoozer.


by elnuestros on Mon Aug 21, 2006 at 09:54:15 PM EST

Re: MyDD Accountability Adwatch: Darcy Burner (none / 0)

I've read all the comments and many say "this is to introduce her," or "this is to tell people who she is."  Well, I don't know her and the ad told me very little--and I only watched it because the thread interested me.  If it had been on my tv, it would have made no impression at all.

It looks like an ad for someone running for school board or county commissioner.  In fact, I volunteered for the campaign of a woman running for county commissioner in '04 and her ads were better (and she won).

And the comments about this district being "different," etc. don't convince me.  Everybody, even if they don't seem to be paying much attention, wants real leadership.  Real strength.  Real convictions.  Hope the next ad does a whole lot better.


by Ravenwind on Mon Aug 21, 2006 at 11:09:55 PM EST

Re: MyDD Accountability Adwatch: Darcy Burner (none / 0)

Go see Darcy Burner's 9 minute speech to the DNC summer meeting on YouTube. Link is on DNC blog, the review of the meeting. Dean's speech (great!) is there, too.


by mrobinsong on Mon Aug 21, 2006 at 11:10:11 PM EST

Re: MyDD Accountability Adwatch: Darcy Burner (none / 0)

You don't have to be in the ad biz for more than three decades, like I've been, to see that this ad is crap. The theme's weak, the message is muddled. This very forgetable commercial doesn't excite, inspire or project a real difference--what ad people call a KBB (key brand benefit). Anyone who believes the country is headed in the wrong direction would come away either disappointed or, best case, unimpressed. Key problem? There's no edge to this gauzy, soft-focus "bio." No reason to believe the candidate would be anything more than a same-old same-old.

Burner is dishing up pablum. Voters demand steak.


dbnkr
by dbknr on Tue Aug 22, 2006 at 12:54:22 AM EST

Re: MyDD Accountability Adwatch: Darcy Burner (none / 0)

My email to the campaign:
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Hi Darcy et alia;

I have been a contributor to the campaign.

I was concerned about the company used for your campaign ad. It generated a lot of negative buzz in the netroots.

I am no media critic but the word of the `heavy hitters' in the blogosphere carry some weight with me. And they were critical of the message and the media company.

I listened to the podcast on Doublespeak and it seemed a lot sharper than the ad.

It is my hope that your ads will be somewhat less mushy and maybe consider a different media agency in the future.
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The response:
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As I told Matt Stoller, I would ask everyone to have patience.  This ad is just one piece of a much broader communications strategy.  We have been very aggressive in our communications strategy -- and you can find many examples of Darcy going right at Reichert and the Bush Administration on his failed leadership.  We intend to have a heavy emphasis on accountability in our subsequent advertising.

I encourage you to continue watching closely.

Zach Silk
Campaign Manager
=
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by 2liberal on Tue Aug 22, 2006 at 02:38:42 AM EST

Re: MyDD Accountability Adwatch: Darcy Burner (none / 0)

whoops, the entire response was:
============

I've read the posts and I talked with Matt Stoller directly earlier today.

As many of the comments on MYDD say, this ad is the perfect setup ad to a long campaign.  We need to introduce Darcy to the diverse voters of the 8th Congressional District.  This ad is intended to do just that.  Fair minded people can disagree on the quality of the ad.  The vast majority of the feedback we have gotten from voters and activists within the district are very positive.

As I told Matt Stoller, I would ask everyone to have patience.  This ad is just one piece of a much broader communications strategy.  We have been very aggressive in our communications strategy -- and you can find many examples of Darcy going right at Reichert and the Bush Administration on his failed leadership.  We intend to have a heavy emphasis on accountability in our subsequent advertising.

I encourage you to continue watching closely.

Zach Silk
Campaign Manager


by 2liberal on Tue Aug 22, 2006 at 02:40:32 AM EST
[ Parent ]

Re: MyDD Accountability Adwatch: Darcy Burner (none / 0)

I am just a mom in TN but I really like Darcy's ad!  I think it tells people where she came from and who she is.  It appeals to people who think Congress isn't listening to their constituents and do not have the average person in mind when they make decisions. Most of us believe that is because of special interest groups.  I do not think new candidates will win on single issues like the war in Iraq.  Nor do I think people care that much about the party affiliation at the local level.  It's the person they vote for that matters.  I would vote for Darcy if I lived there.
God bless our upcoming election for those who put America first over some other cause.  The person who bests loves America will win.
by Momintn on Tue Aug 22, 2006 at 09:59:00 AM EST

Re: MyDD Accountability Adwatch: Darcy Burner (none / 0)

I would think that Matt Stroller who has a good amount of political knowledge and understanding, would realize that name recgonition must be first and foremost for a new canididate.  Thats exactly what this TV add did- it gave her name recgonition connected to a good personality/character. If it was just about the Iraq war and generally topic heavy rather than personality focused, Darcy would have been lost in the issues.  People have to identify with a candidate not just issues if they are going to vote for them.


by JasonBetz on Tue Aug 22, 2006 at 07:06:20 PM EST

Re: MyDD Accountability Adwatch: Darcy Burner (none / 0)

The ad is actually spot-on.  Burner is aspirational - that's a huge part of her appeal.  Check out Twenty-First Century Democrats at www.21stdems.org - they've endorsed Burner exactly for that reason!

It's time for big ideas - it's time to get out of the Dem vs. Rep rut we're in.  We need leaders just like Burner to move us forward in huge leaps, and we need to get back to our progressive roots.

It's about big-time leadership, not bashing the other guy.  Darcy's got the bold ideas and the experience to spark a movement.

This is a great first ad that will help with name awareness!


by pephusky on Thu Aug 24, 2006 at 11:13:35 PM EST


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