Lieberman's Associated Press Stenographer Sue Haigh

Photo credit to Lindsay Beyerstein

Now that the accusations that the Lieberman campaign spokespeople made - Dan Gerstein in particular - turned out to be false and dishonest, it's time to point out how pathetically dishonorable the press was in perpetuating the story.  First of all, it wasn't hard to figure out that this was incompetence and not malice.  I raised enough doubts within two hours to call into question the whole story.  Joe2006.com is after all still down, which is all the proof you need about this primarily being about incompetence.

But that's not really the point.  You see, on the day of the election, the news cycle was buzzing with this false and misleading story put out specifically by the Lieberman campaign as an obvious cover-up of their own incompetence.  The story could have swung the election, even though its basis was false.  Now, if a reporter puts out information that is false without checking it, that reporter should be severely disciplined or fired.  I don't care if he or she is just quoting someone else.  Quoting a verifiable lie is wrong, and it doesn't matter how many qualifiers there are in the story.  It. Is. Wrong.

Now let's take the consequences for Sue Haigh, who reprinted the lie.  I don't believe there has been one story on how the Lieberman campaign outright lied about the Lamont campaign hacking their site.  There hasn't been a retraction or clarification of AP reporter Sue Haigh's disgraceful piece on the issue.  There hasn't been an examination of the Lieberman campaign's use of dishonest tactics to create fake controveries.  There hasn't been a a story about how the website is still down, and how the Lieberman team blamed its own operational problems on its challenger, and used the FBI's time to politicize its own incompetence.

No, Lieberman's election night lie about his web site being hacked is still on the record, unchallenged by the disgraceful pest Sue Haigh.  Dan Gerstein is still the spokesman, and he'll be quoted by journalists as if he has credibility as anything but a professional liar.  

I dislike the modern profession of journalism because it allows this pollution of the public discourse to continue, unchallenged.  It's morally wrong to be a stenographer when your job is political journalism.  Where is the accountability for Lieberman's outright lie and abuse of the FBI's time and money?  Where?  Where is the accountability for Sue Haigh's reprinting of the Lieberman press release on the eve of the most important election in several years, with issues of war and peace on the table?  Where is it?  You call yourselves journalists, you call yourselves above the fray, you say you call it like you see it.  Well where's the accountability, then?  Where is it?

I want stories about this.  Why did they lie?  What happened?  Who made the call to go to the FBI?  Did the Lieberman campaign take the time to understand what happened before coming out with public accusations?  Have they retracted them?  Why or why not?

If stories don't start coming out over the next few days answering these questions (check out TPM Election if you need help), then political journalism is truly pointless and a miserable failure.

Update: Ok, it gets even worse. The AP's Pat Eaton-Robb reiterated the Lieberman lies today. Here we see that the AP isn't up on the latest nonsense from the Lieberman camp.

The site, Joe2006.com, appeared to have suffered from a so-called "denial of service" attack, in which computers overwhelm a site with fake traffic so real visitors can’t get through, said Richard M. Smith, an Internet security consultant in Brookline, Mass.

This is false. DOS attacks do not allow the posting of messages on websites, which the Lieberman camp did. They just take the site offline, and the Lieberman site isn't offline. There's a disclaimer on the site. But even if you refuse to learn about the technology on which you are purporting to report, the Lieberman camp changed their story, and isn't sure that they suffered a denial of service attack.

The AP is a disgrace. Shame on them.



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Lieberman's Associated Press Stenographer (none / 0)

This is a great post.  My experience is that a lot of reporters have always taken the easy way out and not done a lot of fact checking.  This is not a new trait but the 24/7 news cycle makes this tendency worse.


by John Mills on Fri Aug 11, 2006 at 12:07:02 AM EST

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BTW - News reports are Dan Gerstein is on his way to Tom Suozzi's campaign where he will lose for the second time in a month!


by John Mills on Fri Aug 11, 2006 at 12:13:30 AM EST
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Really?  I know he was a Suozzi advisor, but he's headed back there?  Link?


by Matt Stoller on Fri Aug 11, 2006 at 12:31:45 AM EST
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Matt - My mistake.  It was late and I read it that he was going to Suozzi for the next month.  Actually he is leaving Suozzi. Sorry!  


by John Mills on Fri Aug 11, 2006 at 08:39:39 AM EST
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Bad Coverage (none / 0)

The way that the press covered the "website hacked" story, reminded me of how they covered the "Lieberman scales back his GOTV effort" a few days before.  

When I first read the GOTV story, I tried to figure out what the Lieberman team was thinking.  It did not make sense.  Then I read Maura in CT's comment that it was wrong.. that the Lieberman GOTV effort was in full force.  I have to say that I was suprised by how complicit the media was in reporting Lieberman propoganda.

I had posted a comment that addressed this on the thread a little while ago with a link to a NYT story.. but I dont see it now.  (WTF?!)


John McCain loves war.
by Winston Smith on Fri Aug 11, 2006 at 12:53:22 AM EST

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Which is why we've given up on believing the press.


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by Robert P on Fri Aug 11, 2006 at 06:40:01 AM EST
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Re: Bad Coverage (none / 0)

Which does not explain why my first comment got lost in the tubes.  If I say douchebag.. will this one get pulled too?


John McCain loves war.
by Winston Smith on Fri Aug 11, 2006 at 09:27:25 AM EST
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Re: Lieberman's Associated Press Stenographer Sue (3.00 / 1)

Even NPR got in on the lazy fun.  Peter Overby actually went so far as to interview the guy who designed Leiberman's site and and allowed him to say that it simply couldn't have just crashed, but that there had to be a hack/attack on the site.

Hilarious if it was so pathetic, so I'll just go with hysterical.

http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story .php?storyId=5635128


by curious in minnesota on Fri Aug 11, 2006 at 01:16:49 AM EST

Re: Lieberman's Associated Press Stenographer Sue (3.00 / 1)

May I suggest registering your complaint at npr.org?  I did yesterday after hearing the story on my way home.  Perhaps after hearing enough criticisms of this type of piece, either Peter Overby personally or npr in general will think twice about so eagerly handing the bullhorn to obvious partisans without any significant followup investigation.


by bawise on Fri Aug 11, 2006 at 09:40:29 AM EST
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Re: Lieberman's Associated Press Stenographer Sue (none / 0)

Another place to contact might be the NPR "On the Media" program (see: http://onthemedia.org/). They do some good pieces analyzing and criticizing poor-quality journalism, and why it happens.  


by BB10 on Fri Aug 11, 2006 at 09:56:29 AM EST
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Okay, the suit is called defamation or slander or libel.  The First Amendment does not apply.  Its high time someone put their money where their month is regarding the media.  If the AP is acting in reckless disregard for the truth, then they should be sued.  That's the only way they'll take up seriously.


by Jim Treglio on Fri Aug 11, 2006 at 01:27:03 AM EST

I'm afraid it is not that simple. (3.00 / 1)

It takes more than establishing false reporting to win a defamation/slander/libel case. Although the first amendment does not protect defamation/slander/libel, the Supreme Court ruled in NY Times v. Sullivan that certain things were required for these kinds of cases.

Since the Ned Lamont campaign would clearly be a public figure, they would have to prove the falsity of the news report and establish that the report was made either out of malice or recklessness. The AP's use of the Lieberman campaign as its source will be enough to pass the muster on recklessness.

There is also the issue of group slander doctrine. The article doesn't actually accuse any particular person of hacking the site, rather it implies that a Lamont supporter hacked it. Hence the group slander doctrine. Slander/defamation/libel case cannot be made for derogatory statements against a large group by member of the group. Ann Coulter can say that "all liberals are pedophiles", and can't be sued by a liberal who can prove they are not pedophile.

Of course, just because the press can't be sued for slander/defamation/libel does not mean that their reporting is accurate, honorable, or even moral.

I say boycott TV news. I haven't watched TV news since Lewinsky (remember her? - she's probably a volvo-drivin' soccer mom by now).


by bushsucks on Fri Aug 11, 2006 at 10:35:40 AM EST
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Re: I'm afraid it is not that simple. (none / 0)

Excellent informed analysis. You sound very knowledgable about these things.


by spocko on Fri Aug 11, 2006 at 12:13:51 PM EST
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Again, I'm afraid it is not that simple. (none / 0)

I say boycott TV news. I haven't watched TV news since Lewinsky (remember her?...).

To use your phrase, I'm afraid it's not that simple.

First, this is the AP, a press wire service, not a TV station.

Second, boycotting TV News won't keep TV News broadcasters from spewing lies. As we saw in this campaign, many so-called "low information voters" get their news primarily from the TV, and usually its from local TV at that.
When TV News programs (and the AP) report lies as the truth, they have to be called on it, everytime.

They must be held to account for their misinformation, they must be made to feel as if their reporting lies as truth will have real consequences to them and their bosses bottom line.


by justathought on Fri Aug 11, 2006 at 02:27:03 PM EST
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Re: Again, I'm afraid it is not that simple. (none / 0)

True. One of the main reasons that I single out TV news is that it is much easier to parse the written word compared to the spoken word. When the word is written, you can reread it (I suppose with TIVO there is the rewind button, but it still seems easier to reread something). Politicians and the news pick their words very carefully in order to mislead, while still telling the literal truth.

Also, with the written press, I can choose the articles that I want to read, while with TV news, it's whatever is on.

In no way did I mean to indicate that boycotting TV news was "simple". It takes discipline and an organized campaign. But if large numbers of liberals and progressives do boycott TV news, the impact on the bottom line could not be ignored.


by bushsucks on Sat Aug 12, 2006 at 10:28:15 PM EST
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Re: Lieberman's Associated Press Stenographer Sue (3.00 / 2)

When I worked in the MSM we had a saying: You can't spell "crap" without AP.


by ATL Dem on Fri Aug 11, 2006 at 01:27:16 AM EST

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Lamont's campaign has to make this an issue now. He can't take the highroad and allow this meme to spread any further than it already has-- he needs to demand that Lieberman retract the accusations his campaign made during the primary. Americans associate outrage with integrity, and Lamont needs to show some.
If he makes this demand, at least some stenographers will take it down.
by Joanna on Fri Aug 11, 2006 at 01:36:48 AM EST

Re: Lieberman's Associated Press Stenographer Sue (none / 0)

Combining with Jim's comment, maybe he should sue for libel or slander if Lieberman doesn't retract it.  Although that might backfire.  


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by bosdcla14 on Fri Aug 11, 2006 at 05:08:29 AM EST
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Many good points. Curious, though (3.00 / 1)

do bloggers like yourself send out press releases about this type of info when it's this big a story?

So it comes into news outlets in the format they're used to absorbing it?


by Allison In Seattle on Fri Aug 11, 2006 at 02:27:01 AM EST

Re: Many good points. Curious, though (none / 0)

Excellent comment. I actually have thought about this for a while. I think that bloggers can HELP the mainstream media prevent these kind of mistakes if they get the kind of polite (since they faint when you say the f-word) focused emails that Media Matters suggest we write.


by spocko on Fri Aug 11, 2006 at 12:55:43 PM EST
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Great post. Again we call for the MSM to be accurate. Again we find out what really happened. No wonder the MSM is scared of 'bloggers'. We are doing  a better job than they are.


by druidbros on Fri Aug 11, 2006 at 06:24:07 AM EST

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People who act which such utter incompetence, such as reporting lies and NOT doing some fact checking or at least publish a retraction need to be taken down.

What has happened to the ethical standards in this country?  Where is the conscience of these people who write these articles?  Their editors?  Haven't they learned anything from the Jason Blair affair.. or even the Judy Miller fiasco?

Why is lying such an acceptable practice in America?

Why is the concept of accountability something which no longer exists?

Is winning and getting ahead making everyone forget how to behave?

How do you explain this???


by DefJef on Fri Aug 11, 2006 at 07:09:43 AM EST

More Golden Agism from Stoller! (none / 0)

When was it different?

US journalism has either been partisan (like Van Buren's Albany Argus), proprietor-driven (like McCormick's Tribune) or stenographic (post WW2).

The AP has always been an unreliable source: read Upton Sinclair's The Brass Check or Edwin Bayley's book on Joe McCarthy and the press.

Or Somerby passim - if you can cope with the Goremania...


by skeptic06 on Fri Aug 11, 2006 at 07:10:35 AM EST

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Time to start writing letters to the editor, including time and other news journals!!
by Chavez100 on Fri Aug 11, 2006 at 07:16:56 AM EST

pitching the story (3.00 / 2)

On a whim, after a read this post I pitched the Lieberman server story to Mossberg at the WSJ.  Mossberg is not a political journalist, but I figured--computers, servers, technology: what the heck.  Maybe he'll jump on a good pitch.

He wrote back this morning:  ain't interested.  But his response was telling.  He told me there were more 'important things' happening in the world.  Apparently, The toothpaste terrorism story has eclipsed the CT primary story--big time in the newsroom.

Not that I agree with Mossberg's attitude, but his response suggests it may be too late for the Lieberman web site story in the newspapers.  But what about magazines--like Time or Newsweek?  Or even Wired?   Does anyone have a contacts at any of those places?

If there's one thing I know, the Right gets their views into the media because they pitch stories relentlessly--relentlessly!  


by Jeffrey Feldman on Fri Aug 11, 2006 at 08:56:04 AM EST

Re: pitching the story (none / 0)

not sure if we can get some new org to pick it up...however the progressives in this country can make it a part of the public record.  I agree, i doubt the story will gain traction now but in 6 months? In 1 year? GOPPERS will bring this story back out at their earliest convenience.


by Chavez100 on Fri Aug 11, 2006 at 10:07:50 AM EST
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Re: pitching the story (3.00 / 1)

Thanks for doing that pitch! And I totally agree with you. Part of this is their relentlessness also, most of them are PAID to do this. It is their full time job for some campaign or think tank or lobbying/PR firm.

Remember when Reid was going to put together a war room to quickly respond to this crap? Did that happen? I think it is up to bloggers like you who know what a pitch IS and how to reach the right people. Of course it isn't usually our job and we are doing it in our spare time, but it might make the difference.

Someone over at FDL helped stop a MAJOR Metropolitan Daily from running with the "Lieberman's site was HACKED!" Story at the last minute. She was able to get them to stop because she had read blogs that revealed the truth and did some fact checking.


by spocko on Fri Aug 11, 2006 at 01:02:12 PM EST
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I guess Nedra Pickler was busy.


by Hesiod Theogeny on Fri Aug 11, 2006 at 08:57:32 AM EST

Editors are at the nexus of it (none / 0)

The editors are at the nexus of it. They are heavily influenced by advertisers to create fake news stories.

When there is no money involved, they get lazy. Look at this article: there was an error in it, and the writer is giving the editor a place to put in an advertisement (signed, parco) - the editor overlooked it. This is a typographical error but these abound in science articles and are rare in political articles.

http://www.cnn.com/2006/LAW/08/11/cancer .fight/index.html

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In a trial expected to last two days, Tyler will hear from the oncologist, social services workers, a woman who claims the Hoxsey Method cured her ovarian cancer, and of course, Abraham.

In a previous hearing, the teenager recalled the debilitating effects of chemotherapy and his decision to pursue the herbal treatment. The judge can consider his opinion, but also disregard it because he is a minor. Story continues Story continues Advertisment Parco

According to Arthur Caplan, director of the Center for Bioethics at the University of Pennsylvania, judges asked to compel medical treatment of a minor normally are guided by the standards accepted by the medical establishment.

</divquote>


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by heyAnita on Fri Aug 11, 2006 at 09:27:03 AM EST

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Well there is one good thing from the article.  The world can now know that "Richard M. Smith, an Internet security consultant in Brookline, Mass." is not even qualified to sell computers at Best Buy.  Let's hope that Richard M. Smith's prospective future clients realize that AP quote whores who are this wrong will usually provide very   poor computer security services.


by notanumber on Fri Aug 11, 2006 at 10:08:21 AM EST

Re: Lieberman's Associated Press Stenographer Sue (none / 0)

I believe you are a little bit too drastic with your statement. Don't you think you should verify it first? Opinions are shared here, I prefer to give the man a chance.

Whirlpool parts


by gordman on Wed Sep 12, 2007 at 11:34:09 AM EST
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Re: Lieberman's Associated Press Stenographer Sue (none / 0)

that's what he did, expressed his opinion, although this is indeed a bit too harsh.

i'd like to ask you, is that appliance parts site you're linking to with the "whirlpool parts" link yours? Do you buy parts from whirlpool appliances as well? I have several broken whirlpool dishwashers that are actually quite new. Would your site buy the parts?


by Thomas Bennett on Thu Sep 20, 2007 at 07:58:04 AM EST
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Controlling the conversation (3.00 / 1)

Jeffrey: The terrorist story is well-timed to bounce the Lamont-Lieberman narrative (which is injurious to Republican political fortunes) off the front page--all the analysis, the second-day stories, forecasting, follow-up polls--gone, or exiled to page A-26 in a box.
I read somewhere that the terrorist plot was exposed when the US intercepted some intelligence in Pakistan and passed it on to the UK. One hates to think that the timing of law enforcement action against a bunch of dangerous people was manipulated for political gain, but who would put it past these guys?
The narrative is now right back where the neocons think they have their strongest issues, and the knocks against the Democrats are coming fast and furious.
by johnalive on Fri Aug 11, 2006 at 11:29:15 AM EST

true, but... (none / 0)

that doesn't mean it's working.

I just posted on this at Kos.

The frame hasn't been shifted.  Just the message.  

They Repubs are despate to dislodge the idea of [change]=[security], but they can't.  It's already set and holding thanks to Lamont.


by Jeffrey Feldman on Fri Aug 11, 2006 at 11:44:08 AM EST
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Re: Lieberman's Associated Press Stenographer Sue (none / 0)

I wonder whether the media will continue to shill for these people after they have no power, or if they'll start mindlessly regurgitating progressivism at some point.


by Lucas O'Connor on Fri Aug 11, 2006 at 11:31:15 AM EST

It's not illegal (none / 0)

"Quoting a verifiable lie is wrong, and it doesn't matter how many qualifiers there are in the story.  It. Is. Wrong."

Ummm, no. It's not. It's legal. It's their prerogative. Get used to it. As Greg Sargent points out today, only a complete democratic take over of the government might change it. I doubt even that will help, actually.

In February 2003, a Florida Court of Appeals unanimously agreed with an assertion by FOX News that there is no rule against distorting or falsifying the news in the United States.

Back in December of 1996, Jane Akre and her husband, Steve Wilson, were hired by FOX as a part of the Fox "Investigators" team at WTVT in Tampa Bay, Florida. In 1997 the team began work on a story about bovine growth hormone (BGH), a controversial substance manufactured by Monsanto Corporation. The couple produced a four-part series revealing that there were many health risks related to BGH and that Florida supermarket chains did little to avoid selling milk from cows treated with the hormone, despite assuring customers otherwise...

What is more appalling are the five major media outlets that filed briefs of Amici Curiae- or friend of FOX - to support FOX's position: Belo Corporation, Cox Television, Inc., Gannett Co., Inc., Media General Operations, Inc., and Post-Newsweek Stations, Inc. These are major media players! Their statement, "The station argued that it simply wanted to ensure that a news story about a scientific controversy regarding a commercial product was present with fairness and balance, and to ensure that it had a sound defense to any potential defamation claim."

"Fairness and balance?" Monsanto hardly demonstrated "fairness and balance" when it threatened a lawsuit and demanded the elimination of important, verifiable information..!

The position implies that First Amendment rights belong to the employers - in this case the five power media groups. And when convenient, the First Amendment becomes a broad shield to hide behind. Let's not forget, however; the airwaves belong to the people. Is there no public interest left--while these media giants make their private fortunes using the public airwaves? Can corporations have the power to influence the media reporting, even at the expense of the truth? Apparently so.

In addition, the five "friends" referred to FCC policies. The five admit they are "vitally interested in the outcome of this appeal, which will determine the extent to which state whistleblower laws may incorporate federal policies that touch on sensitive questions of editorial judgment."


by Cold Porter on Fri Aug 11, 2006 at 11:42:31 AM EST

Re: It's not illegal (none / 0)

nobody said it was it illegal, he said it was wrong

are you incapable of seeing the difference or just interested in arguing with yourself


by The Exalted on Fri Aug 11, 2006 at 12:06:22 PM EST
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Re: true, but... (3.00 / 1)

Excellent. I hope you are right about the national security frame shift (much as I regret seeing Lamont/Lieberman fall off the top of the fold).
I'd like to see some Democratic leaders advancing your points loudly and vocally to hit right back at the administration--Howard Dean, Jack Murtha, John Kerry, Nancy Pelosi, and the candidates themselves.
by johnalive on Fri Aug 11, 2006 at 12:20:38 PM EST

Payback time for Ned? (none / 0)

Ned needs to come out and DEMAND a statement from Lieberman clearing the accusations they made. Something clear and precise, just like Lieberman demanded of Lamont on election day. Of course Joe wont do it but Ned needs to make the same kind of moral outrage statement that Joe did.


by Les Ismore on Fri Aug 11, 2006 at 12:56:04 PM EST

Let's use this as a warm up for Oct. surprises (none / 0)

I would like to suggest (challenge?) all of us smart bloggers use this story as a case study of what the Oct elections will look like.

Rovian tricks will be used against Democrats.
The media will be told X and will not fact check. The candidate will be busy or the spokesperson will be caught off guard. The right-wing will smear/lie/trick the media.

We can help.

If you spot a whisper campaign in your region tell us. RIGHT AWAY. If you are aware of a plot in advance a smear in the making, help expose it.

I'll give you one right now.

Remember Melanie Morgan who went on Hardball and said that what Bill Keller did was treasonous?
She said on the air that all the news media that did the story on the financial tracking program should be hung.

I heard Melanie Morgan gloating about information in her upcoming book that will "Shock the country and blow the lid off of mother Sheehan's image." She says it will be "Headline news all across the country" and that even the front page of the New York times will be "forced to run this blockbuster information."
http://s88172659.onlinehome.us/Morganpre smearofSheehan08072006H05M06.wma

I have no idea what the smear will be, and if you can't stop a smear campaign, how do you derail it?
I sent the above audio clip to the Cindy Sheehan people, but as I posted on Digby the other day, bloggers need to help the media stop the smears because the journalists have mostly retreated to a "X says this" and "Y says this". This "blockbuster information" will go from World Net Daily to Drudge to Rush to the Washington Times to Fox to CNN to well you know the drill. If the NY Times does have to do a story it will  be because of all the Buzz around this story. Even if the content is overblown.

Like Karl Rove, sometimes these nuts are so proud of themselves they will tell you just what they are going to do in advance.
I really don't want to stand by and wait until the smear is out of the bag. I pre-empetively wrote the TV stations in the Atlanta area about Morgan's "Censure Carter" campaign and her stupid ad didn't get any more pick up. I'm not sure that I had any real impact, but I like to think I helped remind the journalists what was going on with Morgan and her crew, before they ran a news story about the "controversial ad"


by spocko on Fri Aug 11, 2006 at 01:19:36 PM EST

Re: Lieberman's Associated Press Stenographer Sue (none / 0)

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by volodja on Sun Aug 12, 2007 at 08:19:14 AM EST

Re: Lieberman's Associated Press Stenographer Sue (none / 0)

This story smells as bad  as the Whirlpool Parts story. Once again political figures prove that they know how to handle any situation in a legal or illegal manner.


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