The Next Lamonts? Donna Edwards, John Bonifaz, Jennifer Lawless, etc...

k53hv2l9.jpgThe 'I'm the next Ned Lamont' refrain is becoming quite common among progressive primary challengers.  

So far, I've heard it from Donna Edwards, who's running against right-wing reactionary Congressman Al Wynn in MD-04, Jennifer Lawless, who's taking on conservative Jim Langevin in Rhode Island, and John Bonifaz, who's gunning for Secretary of State of Massachusetts.  All three of these candidates are taking on entrenched machine players, and trying to pull the Democratic Party closer to primary voters.

I'm particularly intrigued by Donna Edwards, who has a really powerful claim to legitimacy in her attack on Wynn.  What she says about Wynn is absolutely true.

"Albert Wynn is Maryland's Joe Lieberman."

"Wynn has taken a go-along-to-get-along approach to the Republican legislative agenda. Wynn has voted with Republicans on the Iraq War authorization, the Bush-Cheney Energy Bill, the Bankruptcy Reform Bill, and the Net Neutrality Bill. It's time for Mr. Wynn to answer for his record. Even Joe Lieberman didn't vote to repeal the Estate Tax for the wealthiest Americans."

Now, aside from his incredibly poor legislative record, is Wynn out of touch with his constituents?  That's the question, and it's a weird district so that's tough to figure out.  

If you have insight, please chime in.  And if you hear of any other candidates calling themselves the 'next Ned Lamont', put that in the comment thread as well.

Update: I'm not looking for nominations, I'm looking for non-Presidential candidates who have explicitly compared themselves to Ned Lamont or issued statements on Lamont.



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Re: The Next Lamonts? Donna Edwards, John Bonifaz (none / 0)

Jean Hay Bright is calling herself the next Lamont in her race against Olympia Snowe.


Booman Tribune.
by BooMan on Thu Aug 10, 2006 at 12:04:46 PM EST

Re: The Next Lamonts? Donna Edwards, John Bonifaz (3.00 / 1)

Wow, Snowe has an opponent?  That's a race that sure hasn't cracked the radar screen to date.

I haven't seen any polling of this race, and I'm not sure I want to.


"Another problem we have...is that in election years we behave somewhat as primitive peoples do at the time of the full moon." --Harry Truman
by Steve M on Thu Aug 10, 2006 at 12:34:36 PM EST
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Re: The Next Lamonts? Donna Edwards, John Bonifaz (none / 0)

There was a Rasmussen poll last week (Aug. 2) here

Snowe - 69% (66%)
Bright - 22% (26%)

The previous poll was taken June 22. You're right, you didn't want to know.


by MNPundit on Thu Aug 10, 2006 at 12:52:24 PM EST
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Re: The Next Lamonts? Donna Edwards, John Bonifaz (none / 0)

Sherrod actually got the honor bestowed on him by Ken Mehlman:

http://hotlineblog.nationaljournal.com/a rchives/2006/08/mehlman_sherrod.html


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by ignatzmouse on Thu Aug 10, 2006 at 12:06:47 PM EST

Re: The Next Lamonts: Dina Titus (3.00 / 1)

I've posted about this lots before but if you're looking for a race in which progressives are remaking the Democratic party through grass-roots activism and sharp message to overcome big-money conservatism, check out next week's Democratic gubernatorial primary in Nevada -- state senator and Democratic minority leader Dina Titus who represents the working and middle class neighborhoods of east Las Vegas is running against Henderson Mayor Jim Gibson, a corporate lawyer who has overseen rampant suburban sprawl in the southeastern suburbs.

Titus is supported by a wide array of labor, environmental groups, and progressive activists and has made very effective use of her money == an effective use of the web to shape media coverage and a series of sharp, 15-second ads that have been more effective than Gibson's standard-issue distortion/attack ads. Gibson has raised over $2m in large chunks from development interests primarily (his latest financial disclosure form hasn't been released), but this money hasn't helped him overcome his lack of prior involvement in state democratic politics.

As a result, independent polling has consistently shown her ahead by double digits, and she's got an extensive field operation in place for the current early voting period and next Tuesday's election day. Massive phone banking this week is returning very positive results as undecided voters are breaking decisively towards Titus.

Last night was the second of two tevelised debates, the key moment of which came when Gibson, following Lieberman's lead, refused to commit to endorsing the winner of the Democratic primary. (He's supported republican gubernatorial candidates in the past).

The big challenge for Titus, as for any grass-roots progressive, is funding; she's in no position to self-fund (she's a college teacher of American government who got into politics as a learnign experience, in the tradition of Paul Wellstone) and will be up against massive corporate donations from gaming and mining (which are virtually unlimited in Nevada) should she win the primary and face Richard Pombo protege Jim Gibbons in November.


by desmoulins on Thu Aug 10, 2006 at 12:09:31 PM EST

Re: The Next Lamonts? Donna Edwards, John Bonifaz (none / 0)

I don't know about the particular demographics of MD-04, but it's pretty diverse from looking at the map and thinking back.  There's military, there's poor minority overflow from eastern DC, there's new development up the 95 and 270 corridors, but as I recall, there was never much hard support for Wynn among the average folks on the street.  I'd assume he's well connected to the Maryland machine by this time which is daunting, but so was Joe.  My impression was always that Wynn was a lifer by virtue of the momentum of incumbency, but maybe not.


by Lucas O'Connor on Thu Aug 10, 2006 at 12:14:09 PM EST

Re: The Next Lamonts? Donna Edwards, John Bonifaz (none / 0)

NY's 19th District has an entrenched Bush aligned Sue Kelly, who has held the seat for 12 years.  While this district has had to deal with a beauty pagent of candidates for the primary, there is only one true progressive candidate, John Hall.


by Lizzy on Thu Aug 10, 2006 at 12:31:50 PM EST

MD-4 - Wynn can Lose (3.00 / 2)

Wynn's District 4 is majority African-American but Wynn is not, well, beloved there.  Cardin was beloved in much of District 3, especially before the recent redistricting.  Wynn is less loved, but especially in the largely white, VERY liberal areas of Takoma Park, Silver Spring and NE Montgomery County.  I don't know that he is intensely loved anywhere in his district.

Some of those latter areas had had Connie Morella until 2002 or 04, I forget whether before or after redistricting, a quite liberal and very popular RINO Republican who got knocked out by very liberal Chris Van Hollen.  Some of those folks actively dislike Wynn for his coin-changer-on-his-belt appearance of cooperation with various corporate lobbyists against the liberal stream of his party.  So Wynn - a black Democrat - is a right-ward shift for many of those voters who, formerly, had a liberal white Republican.  Edwards' leftward appeal may actually bring her more white voters than black voters, in an inversion of conventional political dynamics.

I suspect, but do NOT have hard numbers, that Edwards' being female may help her.  But her calling herself the next Ned Lamont - and especially her calling Wynn a Lieberman - is probably an excellent idea for her campaign if they do it.  I do think Wynn can Lose, though it's a long-shot.  A Lamont-esque long shot.


by Crablaw on Thu Aug 10, 2006 at 12:32:32 PM EST

Re: The Next Lamonts? (3.00 / 1)

The next Ned Lamont is Ned Lamont until Lieberman is driven out of the general. Until then, we have to defend a seat in play.


by scvmws on Thu Aug 10, 2006 at 12:38:24 PM EST

Donna Edwards Attack Cartoon Linked Below (none / 0)

This is how Edwards is playing hardball right now.


by Crablaw on Thu Aug 10, 2006 at 12:49:07 PM EST

Donna Edwards Attack Cartoon Linked Below (none / 0)

THIS is how Edwards is playing hardball right now.


by Crablaw on Thu Aug 10, 2006 at 12:50:55 PM EST

Hmm... (none / 0)

Not sure about the uniformed military in there but otherwise it is pretty snappy.


by MNPundit on Thu Aug 10, 2006 at 12:56:43 PM EST
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Re: The Next Lamonts? Donna Edwards, John Bonifaz (none / 0)

There's a really cool documentary about someone who was an early prototype of Lamont that's being self-distributed right now:

http://www.mrsmithmovie.com/

It's been playing St. Louis for awhile, but is opening in L.A., Boston and other places...You shold all check it out and help spread the word! A great primer for just the kind of struggles ahead for all these candidates.


by argghh on Thu Aug 10, 2006 at 12:56:42 PM EST

Re: NY-19 (none / 0)

Lizzy - Hall may very well be the most progressive of the 4 remaining Democrats, but he's very unelectable...he has too many skeletons in the closet and will be very easy to paint as "weak on national defense" by the Kelly machine.  Ben Shuldiner is our best bet in that race - he's quite progressive without all the skeletons.


Netroots for Gore
by NYPopulist on Thu Aug 10, 2006 at 12:57:29 PM EST

Re: NY-19 (none / 0)

this is your only comment ever. hmmmm. nice tactic to say skeletons in the closet but not actually say anything substantive.  i dont know much about this race, and im not favoring anyone, just saying.


by yomoma2424 on Thu Aug 10, 2006 at 01:45:33 PM EST
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Re: NY-19 (none / 0)

Everyone has a skeleton...so what is your point NY Pop?

I met Ben and as I told his campaign...he has great potential.  He should be running for State Senate.


by Lizzy on Thu Aug 10, 2006 at 01:52:30 PM EST
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Re: NY-19 (none / 0)

Not to be a smart-alac, but please do your homework if you are going to insinuate things.  I've been a registered member of MyDD for over sixth months - my first diary was about ANWR in February.

If electability isn't substantive, then maybe you should stop following elections.  I stopped short of exactly saying what Hall's "skeletons" were because I didn't want to flame him - this isn't the place nor the time to do that...if you want to hear why he's unelectable, I'd be happy to explain to you via email.


Netroots for Gore
by NYPopulist on Thu Aug 10, 2006 at 06:44:13 PM EST
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The Next Lieberman: James Langevin (none / 0)

I've commented on this many times before, but I really believe that Jennifer Lawless can win her primary and that there are many similarities between her race and Lamont's.

Langevin is out of sync with Rhode Islanders and the Democratic Party on a plethora of issues--he has left himself open to attack on a much broader array of issues than Lieberman did.  Sure, he may not be plagued by the dynamic image of kissing the President, but we could do so much better.  From supporting the PATRIOT Act to voting against a timetable for withdrawing our troops, to voting over 25 times against a woman's right to choose, Langevin is proving he is out of touch with the needs of his constituents.

Additionally, while Lieberman was at least a visible an outspoken leader for his constituents, Langevin is simply not.  Where has he been on the fight to create better jobs and provide quality education and healthcare?  Where was his voice speaking out against Iraq?  Not only is he out of touch on a lot of issues, on the rest, he simply is a vote without a voice.  With the Republicans fully in control of our government, we need more.

http://lawlessforcongress.com


by packgirl on Thu Aug 10, 2006 at 01:01:47 PM EST

also (none / 0)

The Lawless team had some great visibility yesterday in Providence.  Lawless supporters were holding signs that had the name Lieberman crossed out and proclaimed, "Langevin next!"  The event was attended by almost 20 supporters, as well as the media, and was written up in today's Providence Journal.

http://lawlessforcongress.com


by packgirl on Thu Aug 10, 2006 at 01:35:04 PM EST
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Re: The Next Lieberman: James Langevin (3.00 / 2)

why arent you challenging kennedy? after all, langevin has a HIGHER progressive punch score than kennedy. jeez. end the litmus tests. langevin is a damn good rep, and litmus test people like you is what costed us an easy 20 point victory in RI-SEN


by yomoma2424 on Thu Aug 10, 2006 at 01:46:34 PM EST
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Re: The Next Lieberman: James Langevin (none / 0)

I must add Lawless is pretty cute too!  Wonder if she's single?


by FlyersFan26 on Sun Aug 27, 2006 at 02:21:46 PM EST
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Re: The Next Lamonts? Donna Edwards, John Bonifaz (none / 0)

I hope Crablaw (@12:32:32) is right, but Donna Edwards has her work cut out for her.  This 2004 article* seems pretty good to me in suggesting both opportunity and challenge for her campaign.

*(BTW, I've only recently discovered this gazette.net site, but it looks fairly decent for local MD news, though it doesn't appear to contain particularly in-depth articles; searching on {"Donna Edwards" + Wynn} will pop up a couple dozen or so articles which provide some small flavor of their past encounters.)

We have a lot more federal employees here than there are in CT (save for the shipyard constituency there), so Wynn might be more effective than Lieberman in implying negative consequences for MD04 voters, if they turn out a rep with significant seniority.  Beyond that, my impression is that he hasn't been as aloof as Lieberman in dealing with his constituents, although that is generally the case in comparing House-vs.-Senate reps; his proximity to his district helps him in this matter.

It's good to see her getting tough, as illustrated by that cartoon.  I've donated to DE, and will donate again.


Steve-MD04
by SteveMD04 on Thu Aug 10, 2006 at 01:29:12 PM EST

IL-08: Bill Scheurer press release (none / 0)

  What does yesterday's defeat of Joe Lieberman in the Connecticut primary mean for the rest of the country?

   The answer may be found in the IL-8th Congressional District, where independent candidate Bill Scheurer is taking on two pro-war, pro-corporate candidates from the Republican and Democratic parties in the general election this fall.

   Scheurer, who beat huge odds to get his Moderate Party on the ballot, notes obvious parallels between his and Lamont's campaigns.

   "Lamont's stand on the war in Iraq, working families, healthcare, and balanced budgets, are identical to our Moderate Party platform here in the IL-8th District," Scheurer said.

   "(Democratic freshman incumbent representative) Melissa Bean and Joe Lieberman are both 'Bush Democrats' blatantly courting Republican votes."

   However, perhaps the bigger and more important similarity is that Lamont will now have to take his battle into the general election this fall, to finally defeat Lieberman's policies of accommodation with the Bush administration, since Lieberman has vowed to stay in the race.

   "Bean is a Lieberman Democrat, what we call a 'donkephant' here in Illinois," Scheurer said. "Donkephants die hard. Ned Lamont is now learning what we have known all along: The only way to get rid of a donkephant is in the general election."

   On the heels of several incumbent upsets in yesterday's primaries, Amy Walter, a House political analyst with the nonpartisan Cook Political Report, was quoted in the Washington Post as saying, "I don't want to read too much into primary results, because by their very nature (primary voters) are different from the broader electorate, but what these races suggest is that, yes, the antiwar, anti-Bush, anti-establishment, anti-Washington message is very effective."

   Scheurer believes the movement away from the status quo reflects growing voter dissatisfaction with candidates who are virtually indistinguishable from each other.

   Bean has pointedly avoided TV debates when independent candidate Scheurer is invited and his presence might highlight the overwhelming similarities between her and Republican candidate Dave McSweeney.

   "It is not about Republicans and Democrats," Scheurer said. "It is about voters, and offering them a real choice. Our campaigns [Lamont's and Scheurer's] in the general election will finally give voters that choice."

Since the new progressive movement is almost certainly strong enough to punish Melissa Bean for abandoning the Democratic Party on crucial votes, the only question in this race is how much dough Rahm Emanuel will waste in vain via incumbent protection for a DLC loser who votes with the GOP far too often.

Since it is clear that Bean is going to lose, the discussion shifts to the quest to find a good Democrat to run in 2008. I've already begun candidate recruitment, I'm looking for a great Democratic, with proven leadership abilities, who has spent many a year living in the district, who is highly regarded by the new progressive movement, who knows what it takes to get the job done. Let me know if you have any ideas who fits this profile.


by Bob Brigham on Thu Aug 10, 2006 at 01:57:24 PM EST

You've got to be kidding me (3.00 / 3)

IL-08 is NOT Connecticut in any sense of the word. Some other thoughts:

-Il-08 gave Bush 55% in 2004; Connecticut gave John Kerry 54%. This district is not ready to elect a liberal Democrat, whereas a moderate like Melissa has and WILL win here.

-Scheurer already ran against Melissa in the 2004 primary...and got 20%. His approach is clearly to play Nader to Melissa's Al Gore, costing us a key House seat in order to nurse a grudge. Just look at the press release.

-btw, Mr. Scheurer is pro-life, according to his website. Melissa is solidly pro-choice, and on several social issues they concur together.  

-Melissa's opponent - her REAL opponent - is a former Enron lobbyist, and a right-wing nutjob. Just look at http://www.mcsweeneytv.com . If you want him in Congress, by all means support Bill Scheurer.

-Melissa is not going to lose this race UNLESS liberals decide to support Mr. Scheurer, it's that simple. She has raised over $2 million, has a solid constituent outreach effort and is spending every weekend in her district, as opposed to the absentee Phil Crane.

-Blogswarm, you won't need to do any recruiting in '08, since Melissa is NOT going to lose. If you're hoping to elect a progressive in IL-08, wait a decade or two, that's my advice.

Not trying to squash you, but supporting Scheurer is a one-way ticket to disaster. Get McSweeney in there, and you'll never get him out.


by MrLiberal on Thu Aug 10, 2006 at 02:19:45 PM EST
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Re: You've got to be kidding me (none / 0)

The point isn't for Schuerer to win, but for Bean to lose -- which is going to happen.

That is why the focus is on who will be running in '08.

With UNITE HERE, SEIU, the Teamsters and the Machinists all focused on making an example out of Bean, she is going to lose. And when that happens unity in the Democratic Party will be all the stronger.


by Bob Brigham on Thu Aug 10, 2006 at 02:25:34 PM EST
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It seems to me (none / 0)

That you're more concerned with "making an example" of a Democrat who is helping us win Congress this fall rather than making the Democratic Party "all the stronger". And yes, that's a great idea, having Melissa lose so you can run a progressive in '08.

GUESS WHAT: No major Democratic organization worth their salt is going to play in IL-08 if Mr. Scheurer succeeds in "making his example".  

By your own admission, he can't win - so what's the point? If McSweeney wins (which he won't, mark my words), then the seat will become a GOP lock for many years to come. Good luck in '08 if (God forbid) it comes to that - I look forward to laughing at you once your "chosen one" falls flat on their face.

If Scheurer wanted to challenge Bean, he ought to have done it in the primary, like he did in 2004. If there's such a groundswell against Melissa (which doesn't exist), he would have done better than his 20% last time. But he'd rather pull a Lieberman and screw Democrats over rather than make a stand.

But of course, my mistake. I'm talking to a purist here. Why am I bothering again?


by MrLiberal on Thu Aug 10, 2006 at 03:53:36 PM EST
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Re: It seems to me (none / 0)

If there's such a groundswell against Melissa (which doesn't exist), he would have done better than his 20% last time.

That was during the time the Bean was making statements that turned out to be lies.

The is a 1 in a million chance that control of congress will be decided by one vote. No matter who controlls congress, Democrats will be far stronger without Melissa Bean.

You can bitch about it all you want, but Bean lost has already lost her re-election.


by Bob Brigham on Thu Aug 10, 2006 at 03:59:20 PM EST
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Ha! Nice try (none / 0)

When you mentioned all the labor unions that are going to "send her a message", you forgot to mention that the local unions all endorsed Melissa. So, unless Scheurer's going to have Chicago unionmembers shuttle down to the suburbs when Blagojevich needs everyone behind him, just so that they combat the local unions (including the Northwest Illinois AFL-CIO, which endorsed Melissa), I don't see her getting even close to losing.

Melissa's neutralized McSweeney on fiscal issues, and she's beating the crap out of him on the social ones. I look forward to her easy victory in November. And that's the end of it.


by MrLiberal on Thu Aug 10, 2006 at 04:18:13 PM EST
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Re: Ha! Nice try (none / 0)

Melissa's neutralized McSweeney on fiscal issues, and she's beating the crap out of him on the social ones.

Then why is she too chicken to debate?

She is going to lose and when she does it will be a great victory for the Democratic Party.


by Bob Brigham on Thu Aug 10, 2006 at 04:26:03 PM EST
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Re: It seems to me (3.00 / 1)

The problem with your argument is that if you challenge EVERY conservative Democrat, based upon the idea that 1 VOTE won't determine control of Congress, you'll eventually end up losing at least a dozen votes for Nancy Pelosi as Speaker.  Also, you do know that this is a quite conservative District, right?  Bean's views aren't mine, but truth be told I think she is actually a GOOD FIT for that district - which just like her is fiscally conservative and socially liberal.    


by HSTruman on Thu Aug 10, 2006 at 04:56:50 PM EST
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Re: It seems to me (none / 0)

Challenging everyone isn't making an example, it is foolish. Taking out one makes an example and puts the those who won't stand with the caucus on notice.

I never said everyone should be challenged, all I said is that it will be a good day for the Democratic Party when Bean loses.


by Bob Brigham on Thu Aug 10, 2006 at 05:00:04 PM EST
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Re: It seems to me (none / 0)

OK, I guess we'll have to agree to disagree regarding whether making Bean an "example" would be worth it.  Do you dispute, however, that she actually is a pretty good fit for that District?  


by HSTruman on Thu Aug 10, 2006 at 05:15:33 PM EST
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Re: It seems to me (none / 0)

Yes. See my above comments on who I am searching for, Bean doesn't meet a single criteria.

If Steny Hoyer were a whip instead of a DLC shill, this wouldn't be an issue.

But Bean is going to lose and when she does Democrats should celebrate.

When 2008 comes, I hope we are presently surprised with the kick-assness of the candidate.


by Bob Brigham on Thu Aug 10, 2006 at 05:35:44 PM EST
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Re: It seems to me (none / 0)

Blogswarm - I understand she doesn't meet any of YOUR criteria for a good candidate.  However, are you saying affirmatively that you think her views are out of line with the majority of her constituents?  If so, I would respectfully disagree.  This is a conservative district, not connecticut, and I think Bean represents the left margin of what the District will accept politically.  Accordingly, I don't really see a reason to challenge her.  


by HSTruman on Thu Aug 10, 2006 at 05:47:34 PM EST
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Re: It seems to me (none / 0)

Solidarity is the reason to boot her ass to the curb.

She is going to lose, the only question is how much money Emanuel is going to waste on his political soul mate.

If the right candidate has the courage to run in '08, this will be our seat with somebody holding it that plays for our team.


by Bob Brigham on Thu Aug 10, 2006 at 06:01:10 PM EST
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Re: It seems to me (none / 0)

OK, again I guess we'll have to just disagree on this one.  I still haven't heard any explanation from you as to why you believe someone more liberal would be able to win in this district, or how Bean is failing to represent her constituents views, but for what it's worth I'd LOVE to see someone representing this district who IS more liberal.  I just don't think it's possible at this point.  Also, I HIGHLY DOUBT that Bean will lose this year, given that the only polling data I've seen shows her winning.  I will freely eat crowe if I'm wrong coming November, however.


by HSTruman on Thu Aug 10, 2006 at 06:06:06 PM EST
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Re: It seems to me (none / 0)

Look at who I am hoping will run, they would win. If you're right, Dems have another seat, if I'm right, Dems have unity and the potential for a great legislator. We'll see.


by Bob Brigham on Thu Aug 10, 2006 at 06:17:47 PM EST
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Re: The Next Lamonts? Donna Edwards, John Bonifaz (none / 0)

Langevin is exactly the same as Lieberman and even more conservative!  I'm from Rhode Island and believe me, Jim Langevin is not what Rhode Islanders need or want!  I hope that Ms. Lawless can put up some good tv and get the netroots involved.  If these two things align with a strong field effort, she will win.  Lets go netroots...lets take another one!!


by LeoDem on Thu Aug 10, 2006 at 02:05:25 PM EST

Re: The Next Lamonts? Donna Edwards, John Bonifaz (none / 0)

again, langevin is just as progressive as kennedy. look at the PP score.


by yomoma2424 on Thu Aug 10, 2006 at 03:04:56 PM EST
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Re: The Next Lamonts? Donna Edwards, John Bonifaz (none / 0)

Is there an alternative candidate for the primary against Kennedy?  Is the district more conservative than Langevin's?  Why is Kennedy voting more conservative?  Is that what he believes or are there influences pushing him that way?  


by prince myshkin on Thu Aug 10, 2006 at 04:35:21 PM EST
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Re: The Next Lamonts? Donna Edwards, John Bonifaz (none / 0)

he isnt more conservative. they are about the same which is mainstream democrats. im using this to say that langevin ISNT conservative, not that kennedy IS.


by yomoma2424 on Fri Aug 11, 2006 at 10:40:29 PM EST
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Re: The Next Lamonts? Ned Lamont, Dina Titus (none / 0)

I concur with the suggestion that we need to continue to watch Ned Lamont's back until Lieberman's out of the race.

I also concur with the conclusion that of the other names suggested in this thread so far, while there's something to be said for many of them, Dina Titus offers the most bang for the buck. Support for her does not put a blue-held seat at risk, and, frankly, both the conservative Democrat she's running against in the primary and the Republican she'll face in November are way worse than Wynn or Langevin and way more important than the nuances of difference among the Democrats running in NY-19.  

Further support for Scheurer in IL-08 is just static on the line, at this point in the cycle.


by Christopher Walker on Thu Aug 10, 2006 at 02:35:14 PM EST

Re: The Next Lamonts? Ned Lamont, Dina Titus (none / 0)

titus though is running about 10 pts behind gibbons while gibson was only 3 points back. although hard to tell with gibson because of the name possible confusion


by yomoma2424 on Thu Aug 10, 2006 at 03:05:29 PM EST
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Re: The Next Lamonts? Ned Lamont, Dina Titus (none / 0)

She'll get a spike in the polls (and more name recognition) when she wins the primary, don't you expect?

Plus she stands to inherit more yeast-filled dough from Emily's list, which is down two pet candidates in recent primaries. The money they would have funneled to Nikki Tinker and Peggy Lamm has to go somewhere. At this point they're down to just six front-burner candidates in contested primaries. They can't spend everything they raise on Mazie Hirono.


by Christopher Walker on Thu Aug 10, 2006 at 03:57:12 PM EST
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Re: The Next Lamonts? Ned Lamont, Dina Titus (none / 0)

yes but gibbons would then get a bump -- hes got a contested primary too -- according to this logic


by yomoma2424 on Fri Aug 11, 2006 at 11:54:26 AM EST
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Re: The Next Lamonts? Lawless (none / 0)

If the Lawless challenge is able to pick up steam in the media in the coming weeks (which is more likely now that everyone is looking for the next Lamont), the Terri Schiavo vote could be the noose around Langevin's neck...


by polisciprof on Thu Aug 10, 2006 at 03:36:07 PM EST

Re: The Next Lamonts? Lawless (none / 0)

Eh.  I'm not crazy about hanging people in wheelchairs.  Langevin is useful to the party as being pro-stem cell, even though he's pro-life.


by Adam B on Thu Aug 10, 2006 at 03:40:48 PM EST
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Re: The Next Lamonts? Lawless (none / 0)

Right, but Lawless is pro-stem cell, as well.  (And Langevin didn't even start out that way.)  The 2nd District in Rhode Island needs more from their Representative than a voice on stem-cell research.


by packgirl on Thu Aug 10, 2006 at 03:49:52 PM EST
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Re: The Next Lamonts? Lawless (none / 0)

I personally think Langevin is the perfect example of a candidate that is complacent.  The Lawless people are hungry for change; they have a young, energetic team that really believes in progressive issues such as choice, net neutrality, Iraq and others... Langevin simply does not represent his district ideologically.  If this is the real year for the Democratic tide, then progressives like Lawless should defeat conservative Dems in liberal areas like Langevin in RI...

No leadership and way to the right of his constituents.  Can't think of a better set of reasons to get rid of him.

lawlessforcongress.com


by sotobarreto1 on Thu Aug 10, 2006 at 03:48:46 PM EST

Re: The Next Lamonts? Lawless (3.00 / 1)

Out of curiosity, have you ever heard Langevin bash other Democrats on Fox News?  Or argue that anyone who disagrees with his more conservative views is a traitor and unpatriotic?  B/c I never have and don't suspect I ever will hear such things come out of his mouth.  That alone makes him VERY VERY different than Lieberman.

Also, has Lawless ever held ANY elected position before?  If not, and I don't think she has, then why doesn't she take all of her energy and ideas and run for State Senate or another position?  Attacking an incumbent Dem who doesn't undermine the party and is well-liked in his district - his conservative social views notwithstanding - strikes me as a real waste.  


by HSTruman on Thu Aug 10, 2006 at 05:01:59 PM EST
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Re: The Next Lamonts? Lawless (none / 0)

There is a difference between Lieberman and Langevin: Lieberman is way more progressive.  If anyone should be challenged it is candidates that are aggressively pro war and pro bush on eroding our civil liberties.


by riliberal on Thu Aug 10, 2006 at 05:45:55 PM EST

Re: The Next Lamonts? Lawless (none / 0)

The progressive punch doesn't tell the whole story. Sure, on paper Langevin looks ok. And no doubt he is a nice guy. But that isn't enough. He is on the wrong side of so many issues (that key 15%): he wants universal insurance, not universal healthcare. That means that people will be required to get coverage, but they will be responsible for paying. The poorest will be covered, but there will be a group of people who are working hard who will be strapped to get the insurance. Jen wants Universal healthcare. Everyone gets basic coverage.

He voted multiple times for tax breaks for the rich, and voted to keep the bush tax cuts that benefit the top few percent, rather than roll back the taxes and use the money for education and healthcare. His PP rating on family planning is 26%. He voted to shied fast food companies from lawsuits.  And voted against medical marijuana multiple times. He voted for the schaivo bill, and against gay marriage, and for a flag burning amendment. I could go on.  

These are important issues to me. I have spoken to his office a number of times about health issues, and have gotten replies such as "there isn't a bill about that issue right now, so he's not going to spend much time looking at it." He is "unsure" about emergency contraception (and therefore most forms of contraception, which work by the same method) and that should be enough to scare anyone who wants to have sex for pleasure, not just procreation.

I have long been hoping that someone would challenge him, and I think that Lawless is an excellent choice. She is very smart, interested in learning about new ideas, and willing to fight for what is important to RI. She is articulate and in it for the right reasons. She knows that we can do better. Washington needs outsiders to clean things up - campaign finance reform, ethics violations, big business taking precedence over the people, plus an exit strategy for Iraq, universal healthcare, reality based sex ed, and good environmental and alternative fuel options.

I am not sure why people are so scared of a challenge. Let the 2 debate, and then let RI'ers decide on the issues. Lawless deserves to be taken seriously, and given enough press and exposure so that people can make an informed decision. I think that she has earned that right by fighting a good campaign and getting this kind of grassroots support. Unlike Lamont, Jen Lawless is not independently wealthy, and she has had to work very hard to build this kind of momentum, in a time of so much apathy. She actually gets people excited, and hopeful for the future. Wouldn't you love to feel a little hopeful again?


by RIDoc on Thu Aug 10, 2006 at 10:38:01 PM EST

Re: The Next Lamonts? Jennifer Lawless (none / 0)

YES, absolutely! When a Democrat is "in bed" with W, is so far-gone and blinded by radical Republican's views on the most fundamental issues, then yes Langevin deserves much the same democratic ousting that dear, droopy Joe experienced Tuesday. True reform, true democracy, true change comes in a primary -- only then will "new" Democrats lead the charge for change in Washington, only then can a Democratic House, a Democratic Senate, and a Democrat in the White House become a reality.

Do it right Rhode Islanders...Lieberman Langevin!


by Archbishop on Thu Aug 10, 2006 at 11:01:55 PM EST

Re: The Next Lamonts? Jennifer Lawless (none / 0)

you are out of your mind.


by yomoma2424 on Fri Aug 11, 2006 at 11:55:39 AM EST
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