Progressive Messaging Wins: Tester, Angelides, Winograd, and Bilbray?

Brian Bilbray ran to the left of Francine Busby.  I know it sounds weird, but he did.  That he won on a progressive platform is biggest story of the night.  Busby's loss was a loss no matter how it's spun, but it's also a clear sign that the Democrats must become a progressive party.  Busby ran the ultimate DC campaign, downplaying ideology and party, and making the campaign about competence, corruption, and issues.  I don't expect this to wake up DC insiders, but you never know.

The counter to the Busby loss are the twin victories of Jon Tester and and Phil Angelides, as well as the unexpectedly strong showing of Marcy Winograd.  Tester and Angelides won through progressive grassroots oriented campaigns.  Angelides's campaign was ugly, but he beat Westly's big money and he was clearly the more progressive candidate and ran a more grassroots-oriented campaign.  Winograd took an unexpectedly large 37 percent in a primary against Jane Harman.  Winograd was not a credible opponent and had no local blog support, so this is the level of support the conservative Democratic leadership is turning off.  And Tester CRUSHED his opponent with 60& of the vote, working with the local Montana netroots to push a progressive message that clearly resonated.  I'm more optimistic about Lamont now because progressive messaging worked, and insider Democratic messaging surrounding 'issues' did not.

So let's look closer at the loss in CA-50 for Michael Duka, I mean, Francine Busby.  What is there to say about Busby?  She lost against a corrupt lobbyist running as a progressive in a district whose last Congressman resigned because of bribery and prostitution.  If any district was tailor made for competence and corruption messaging, it was this one.  That it didn't work should wake some people up.  Busby ran explicitly as a 'moderate' to restore ethical government, with a patina of 'issues' (just look at the incomprehensible 'issues' area of her web site).  She hid from progressives and liberals explicitly, running on a technocratic vision of minor benefits for the electorate.  Busby argued that goverment is a service delivery vehicle, and she can make the trains run on time.  The voters rejected that argument because they didn't trust the messenger.  You can say she made up 15 points or something and the Republicans had to spend a lot of resources on this race, and I respect that argument.  You can say she made a last-minute gaffe on immigration, and I respect that argument.  You can argue that the California Governor's race depressed turnout.  All those are valid arguments.  Unfortunately, reality isn't fair.  The map is gerrymandered.  The Republicans have more money, a lot more.  They have the ability to create last minute gaffes for every Democrat in the country.  They have a proven turnout model, and the ability to dominate the agenda with wedge issues and hatred.  And Democratic leaders don't have a history of effective messaging, which means that with some exceptions the top of the ticket ain't going to be particularly inspiring.

Will the Republicans hold Congress in November?  I don't know.  I'm not a good numbers guy (though I did predict last night that Busby would lose by 5).  But I'm intrigued by Bilbray's platform, which differed starkly from Busby's technocratic 'moderation'.  It's really quite stunning.

Bilbray is a native San Diegan and was born at Coronado Naval Air Station where his father served in the Navy. Prior to his tenure in Congress, Brian spent more than two decades in business and in local government. Brian was instrumental in developing San Diego County's progressive initiatives regarding environmental protection, pollution control, and economic development.

Bilbray knew that progressive messaging was the key to holding the seat.  Busby bought the DC insider line that elections are about 'issues' unconnected to any larger narrative.  Americans are mad about high gas prices therefore they will vote for Democrats.  She ran against principles, against values, and against the base.  She ran against the blogs, not in the sense that she bashed the blogs but in the sense that her message and our message did not overlap (unlike Hackett).  Her message was 'look at these bullet points'.  

The lesson from last night should be clear.  Hiding from progressives and the left will lead to Democratic losses in 2006.  Running as a progressive will lead to victory.  Running on 'issues' and 'competence' instead of character will lead to Democratic losses.  Talking about how the 'American people' care about gas prices and not gay marriage is insulting and loser politics.  Running on bullet points is wrong.  Running on character is right.

Busby was no progressive, so she lost.  She got the indy votes, but couldn't turn out progressive voters and couldn't keep in conservative voters.  That's my reading of the race.  We should cut the 'googoo competence and ignore everything else strategy', it doesn't work.  

Iraq.  Gay marriage.  Immigration.  Iran.  Corruption.  Get used to election season, 2006.  Grab your progressive principles and hold on tight.

Update: I'll clarify a bit on Bilbray's messaging. Yes, the hard right immigration line helped Bilbray, but that was because he ran against Bush. The progressive pro-environment progressive language softened the idea that Bilbray was a Bush clone, and immigration sealed the deal.



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Bilbray Ran As A Progressive?! Are You Kidding? (none / 0)

Matt, you're seriously arguing that Bilbray ran as a progressive and that Busby lost b/c she was too conservative?  Bilbray's #1 issue was to push for a hard right, bigoted immigration plan - and it worked (as it probably will for a lot of republicans this year, in the short term.  Long term that's a losing position).  One line taken off of his web site - which is vague and is primarily focused on environmental issues - doesn't change the focus of his campaign, which was to turn out the sizeable conservative base in the district.  

Remember, this is a District where 44% of registered voters are Republicans.  How exactly, in such a District, was Busby supposed to win by turning out progressives at the expense of losing moderate republicans?  I honestly just don't understand your argument here - as applied to Cal. 50 - at all.  


by HSTruman on Wed Jun 07, 2006 at 10:27:41 AM EST

Re: Bilbray Ran As A Progressive?! Are You Kiddin (none / 0)

Look at the messaging.  It was a mix of hard right immigration rhetoric and progressive messaging.


by Matt Stoller on Wed Jun 07, 2006 at 10:34:27 AM EST
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Re: Bilbray Ran As A Progressive?! Are You Kiddin (none / 0)

Other than the environmental quote and a generic statement about progressive economic policies (and I'd love to know what those policies were, since this guy was initially elected in '94)what exactly was bilbray's "progressive messaging?"  All the coverage of this race that I was exposed to focused on immigration and how horrible it would be if the District helped make Pelosi Speaker.  If I'm wrong and Bilbray did in fact use progressive messaging then fair enough - but I haven't seen any evidence that that's the case.  


by HSTruman on Wed Jun 07, 2006 at 12:58:06 PM EST
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Re: Bilbray Ran As A Progressive?! Are You Kiddin (none / 0)

Using the word progressive doesn't mean the message was progressive.  The message was populist and locally oriented, which is why it worked. Not progressive.


by Lucas O'Connor on Wed Jun 07, 2006 at 01:35:58 PM EST
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Re: Bilbray Ran As A Progressive?! Are You Kiddin (none / 0)

Indeed, and this is true both of GoOpers and Dems.

But the larger point: out side of the "Inside Politics" crowd of which we are all a part, it comes down to messaging. If "Coke adds life," certainly Blibray can call himself a progressive. And say it enough times it is becomes true for a sizable segment of the target demo.


by redstar67 on Wed Jun 07, 2006 at 02:31:34 PM EST
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Bilbray Ran As A Progressive? Yup. (none / 0)

Hard right immigration rhetoric is a progressive message.  Sure, Republicans mix it with racist code words but the explicit message is "better wages and more jobs for America's working families."

I have family working in the landscaping business.  I know people working in construction.  I see friends who own restaurants decide they need to go along with the Wal-Marts of the world to compete and hire illegals.

Immigration law enforcement used to be our issue.  What is going on with my party so that we oppose enforcing the law and want to grant amnesty to those who break it?  That's what I was hearing from Busby and across the nation.

It's time for us to shape up and get serious about progressive immigration reform which starts with law enforcement and that means cracking down on the root of the problem:  corporations breaking the law to hire illegals and break the back of American labor.


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by ChetEdModerate on Wed Jun 07, 2006 at 02:21:43 PM EST
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Re: Bilbray Ran As A Progressive?! Are You Kiddin (none / 0)

(as it probably will for a lot of republicans this year, in the short term.  Long term that's a losing position).

bubba, somehow you seem to forget that this is Murka, where there is NO 'long term'. EVERYTHING is about 'short-term gain.'
that's why we're in the fix we're in...


by Konopelli on Wed Jun 07, 2006 at 11:49:45 AM EST
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Re: Bilbray Ran As A Progressive?! Are You Kiddin (none / 0)

Pete Wilson won the gubernatorial race in 1994 using similar rhetoric but solidified California as a Blue State long term by completely alienating Hispanic voters.  If that doesn't qualify as a short-term success but long-term failure, I'm not sure what does.


by HSTruman on Wed Jun 07, 2006 at 12:47:00 PM EST
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Re: Busby (none / 0)

Yeah, this is some of your worst stuff here Matt.

Bilbray as a progressive? Come on.

Busby did run a DC Insider campaign. This is true.

But for months you have been pushing Francie Busby like no other. And now, just because she lost, you turn around and blame in on the DC establishment and her just running on "issues." This sounds a helluva lot like Arm-chair politicking to me. A helluva lot like Monday (Wednesday morning) quarterbacking.

I have a world of respect for you Matt, but come on.


by DFLer22 on Wed Jun 07, 2006 at 10:34:34 AM EST

Re: Busby (3.00 / 1)

Bilbray as a progressive? Come on.

I didn't say he was a progressive.  I said his messaging was progressive.

But for months you have been pushing Francie Busby like no other.

That is false.  Find me a series of supportive blog posts on Busby that I authored.  It doesn't exist.  The last single blog post I found was on February 5th, and it called her an 'anticorruption candidate' and nothing else.  I have not pushed her campaign because I did not find her campaign particularly progressive or effective, and I wasn't impressed with her coordination with progressive groups or the netroots.  I didn't knock the campaign either, because I didn't know whether the competence message would work or not.  I feared it would not, but that's not the same thing as being certain.

Just because they are insiders doesn't mean they are wrong.  And just because I am progressive doesn't mean I'm right.

But your assertion that I have pushed Busby like no other is false.


by Matt Stoller on Wed Jun 07, 2006 at 11:28:32 AM EST
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Post Election Analysis & Spin (none / 0)

I completely agree with Matt on this -- and that isn't to say he is 100% correct. What matters here is that Busby failed, and she failed because she followed the advice of the Beltway Democratic Consultants.

If "Culture of Corruption" is a winning theme, Busby should have won with 60% of the vote. And she might have -- if there had been more than 30% turnout.

THAT'S where the Busby campaign failed -- and where Jon Tester succeeded. Have you looked at the Montana numbers? Not only did Tester crush Morrison, he did it with record turn out at the polls.

If Democrats are going to win, we need Progressive Candidates that INSPIRE voters -- not mealy mouthed technocrats who can't campaign their way out of a Swift Boat paper bag.

An election with 30% turnout is a failure, folks. If all of the energy and money that was poured into this race can't get the turnout up to 35% or 40% or god forbid 50%, it means the Team Democrat plan is something they've fished out of the toilet.

Here's the deal -- phone banking doesn't work. You know why? The GOP has figured out that phone jamming is illegal, and gets Unka Karl's operatives thrown in jail. The RNC spent how much -- $2 million? $3 million? defending the White House operative who got caught in New Hampshire. Bad form, and very expensive. What is a Rovian dirty trickster to do? Why, flood Democrats with 10, 20, 50 robo-calls a day, telling them to vote for a Republican!!!

This way, when our lonely MoveOn or Busby phone banker calls, they get hung up on immediately, and the voter is so pissed they won't even vote at all!!!

High tech robo-call voter suppression folks -- and all Team Democrat can say is clap louder and send more money . . .

Point two -- Team Busby said they had 300 GOTV volunteers, which was all they could handle. 300? They should have had 3000 -- the way to get low frequency Democratic voters to the polls is KNOCK and DRAG.

KNOCK on their doors, and DRAG them to the polls.

Grrr -- anger!!!

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Beyond that, we MUST reinforce Matt's analysis -- first because it's true, and second because we have to beat it into the heads of the Beltway Dems.


by ck on Wed Jun 07, 2006 at 12:34:13 PM EST
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Re: Post Election Analysis & Spin (3.00 / 1)

Important distinction between the Busby and Tester race.

Busby faced a real Repub opponent in an decidely wingnut district and came close despite an apathetic Dem turnout.

Tester won a Dem primary against the DC establishment candidate who spent more money.

When Tester beats Burns in Nov we can compare the Tester and Busby races.


by ab initio on Wed Jun 07, 2006 at 12:58:41 PM EST
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Gees, enough blaming "DC insiders" (none / 0)

She was a California candidate who ran a race in California and lost to a Californian.

Oy, when is the rest of the country going to stop whining about "DC" and take responsibility for winning a race?

Rahm didn't lose this, Harry Reid didn't lose it, Pelosi didn't, blah, blah, blah.  

The candidate lost the race.  There were no mysterious DC insider empaths controlling her mind.  She made her choices.  She lost.  It was a tough race, no doubt.  But if you're blaming someone, get real, and assign blame where it begins.

You want to change the Democratic leadership?  Fine, go for it.   But enough harping on "DC" only.  Remember -- regime change begins at home.


by jhlinko on Wed Jun 07, 2006 at 11:32:46 PM EST
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Re: Busby (none / 0)

You know what Busby's issues page looks a lot like?

Amy Klobuchar's.

Someone better get the message to her.


by redstar67 on Wed Jun 07, 2006 at 02:32:51 PM EST
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Re: (none / 0)

I supported Busby with contributions via Emily's List, and I (card-carrying optimist that I am) fully expected her to win.  But my fear was that if she got elected this time, she wouldn't be able to hold on to her seat in November, in this overwhelmingly Republican district.  So while I'm disappointed, I must say I'm kind of relieved - in the fall, my contributions will go elsewhere, to progressive candidates with a real chance of winning and achieving change.


"Patriotism is supporting your country all the time and your government when it deserves it." - Mark Twain
by SueBob on Wed Jun 07, 2006 at 10:47:02 AM EST

Re: Progressive Messaging Wins: Tester, Angelides, (none / 0)

Busby definitely reached out to bloggers.  She was on numerous conference calls, her staff returned phone calls and emails immediately, etc.  Her campaign engaged in much of the kind of blog outreach that is actually fruitful, even if they didn't fly in people to drink beer and "live blog" on election night.


by Patton on Wed Jun 07, 2006 at 10:47:03 AM EST

Get Some Perspective, Please (none / 0)

C'mon, folks, get some perspective.  This is one of the most Republican districts in the State of California & the nation.  So Republican, in fact, that the Democrats had to settle for a nominee who is a school board member for a very, very small school district.  Not a single mayor in this district is a Democrat.  Despite all of this Francine Busby had the momentum until her stupid "you don't need papers" statement.  Nothing more, nothing less.  Anyone with an ounce of political savvy knew that was a message killer for Busby in this conservative Republican district, and probably a lethal self inflicted blow.  I'm a progressive myself, but let's not delude ourselves into thinking Bilbray outflanked Busby to the left; instead, Busby lost because of her own rhetorical inexperience.


by darrenfelipe on Wed Jun 07, 2006 at 10:50:31 AM EST

there will always be a last minute gaffe (none / 0)

because we have to face it....even if she had actually said or done nothing the Republicans would have made something up.  And then flogged it for the last 48-72 hours even if it was a lie.

It must always be in our calculations that Republicans are never constrained by the truth.


by debcoop on Wed Jun 07, 2006 at 11:40:42 AM EST
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Re: there will always be a last minute gaffe (3.00 / 1)

I will agree with Matt that 2006 is a base turnout election.  And I think just running on incompetence and corruption is an almost winning i.e. losing strategy.  But part of that is because Democrats have focussed on them in isolation.  

Republican incompetence and corruption and the cronyism that breeds the incompetence and corruption are an INHERENT PART OF REPUBLICAN IDEOLOGY.  THEY FLOW DIRECTLY FROM HOW REPUBLICANS THINK THAT GOVERNMENT IS BOTH THE EENMY AND SOMETHING THAT MUST BE EXPLOITED TO LINE THE COFFERS OF THEIR SUPPORTERS AND DONORS.TO REPUBLICANS GOVERNMENT IS A JUST A DELIVERY SYSTEM FOR APPORTIONING THE SPOILS.

Democrats see government differently.  They have a progressive tradition that government can help provide protection, security and and oppurtunity.

I have to agree with Matt that whenever I read what Busby said about corruption (that message discipline) I heard echoes of Michael Dukakis.  The message is good but insufficient in terms of rounding third and getting to home.


by debcoop on Wed Jun 07, 2006 at 11:52:51 AM EST
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I hate that crap. (none / 0)

Despite all of this Francine Busby had the momentum until her stupid "you don't need papers" statement.  Nothing more, nothing less.  Anyone with an ounce of political savvy knew that was a message killer for Busby in this conservative Republican district, and probably a lethal self inflicted blow.

This is the same thing they did to dean, harp on any tiny mistake and blow it way out of proportion.  You do need papers to vote, you need to be registered at the very least (do you need papers to register? I know in Iowa you do not)

So obviously she misspoke.  My theory is the horrible mud-slinging in the dem primary gov. primary killed her chances.


by delmoi on Wed Jun 07, 2006 at 01:07:27 PM EST
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Busby was a Rahmboid: who knew? (none / 0)

Knowing nothing worth knowing about the CA-50 fight, I've stayed out (except for this heads-up on what seemed to me an odd Post piece).

But the impression I'd got from the lefty sphere generally, and from FP-ers here, was that she was fighting the good fight, keeping it close, on the right track - all that jazz.

She was, in short, a candidate that the lefty sphere liked.

Now, I 'find' she was a DC clone who

hid from progressives and liberals explicitly, running on a technocratic vision of minor benefits for the electorate.

I'm not boo-hoo-ing about having been misled by those nasty hack bloggers, or any such bollocks. If I'd have been interested, I'd have paid attention - and if I hadn't twigged by doing so, then more fool me.

I'm just noting it for future reference.


by skeptic06 on Wed Jun 07, 2006 at 10:51:05 AM EST

One look at that 'on the issues' page... (none / 0)

...that Matt links would have been enough to set off alarm bells.

Even I could have designed a better page - and my HTML is strictly at the three chords level!


by skeptic06 on Wed Jun 07, 2006 at 10:56:11 AM EST
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Re: Busby was a Rahmboid: who knew? (none / 0)

I'm also surprised at this change of narrative. Up till yesterday I was under the impression that Busby was a blogosphere favorite and a progressive star. Now suddenly she is just another DC-insider?

Maybe Matt always had this opinion of her. Maybe he just kept silent because he wasn't sure whether it would work or not and he didn't want to jinx it by criticizing it. But this kind of day-after-I-told-you-soism (when you didn't actually "tell us so") doesn't really help.

I agree with Matt's wider point that the progressive message is a winning message in 2006. I'm just a bit put off by this attempt to paint Busby as the anti-progressive candidate when there was little hint of this before yesterday.


by Chris Andersen on Wed Jun 07, 2006 at 11:52:31 AM EST
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Agreed (none / 0)

Look, I'm not accusing anyone of anything - just trying to sort this out. But I sense a bait and switch from the people I've learned to trust (MyDD and DKos crowd), and I don't like it.

MyDD and DKos may not have explicitly endorsed Busby, but I heard a lot about her, and it certainly wasn't from traditional media.

If folks on MyDD and DKos (my two main blog reads along with FDL) thought she was a DLC toadie, I would hope I would've heard that before the election. I didn't.


by bkharmony on Wed Jun 07, 2006 at 12:02:29 PM EST
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Re: Agreed (none / 0)

MyDD and DKos may not have explicitly endorsed Busby, but I heard a lot about her, and it certainly wasn't from traditional media.

If folks on MyDD and DKos (my two main blog reads along with FDL) thought she was a DLC toadie, I would hope I would've heard that before the election. I didn't.

She's not a DLC toadie.  I am strongly for her ethical stances, and I was hoping she'd win so that she would go to Congress and file ethics complaints.  I gave her money.

My post has to do with strategy and messaging.


by Matt Stoller on Wed Jun 07, 2006 at 12:25:36 PM EST
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Re: Agreed (none / 0)

You guys here at MyDD and Kos brought my attention to this election and this candidate.  Trashing her message and stategy the day after the vote seems somewhat innapropriate.


by aiko on Wed Jun 07, 2006 at 12:56:20 PM EST
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Re: Busby was a Rahmboid: who knew? (none / 0)

Just a thought.

Lefties got on board for Busby not particularly because they thought she'd make an objectively excellent congressperson because fact of the matter is she wouldn't. Lesser of two evils all the way.

Lefties got on board because a Dem victory in that district would have been such an extreme turnabout, of Hackett v Schmitt proportions, and would have forced the M$M to reshade their coloring of the electoral narrative between now and November.

Paul Hackett or a candidate like him would have won that district.


by redstar67 on Wed Jun 07, 2006 at 02:37:52 PM EST
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Re: Progressive Messaging Wins: Tester, Angelides, (3.00 / 1)

"Running on bullet points is wrong.  Running on character is right."

Good post, Matt. I concur that 2006 is primarily a turn out the base aggressively year. Its less about the laundry list of policy and more about character and principle. When a candidate stands up for progressive principles and comes across as authentic the base gets energized and the Indys come too.

Tester demonstrated this in spades. He was unafraid to stand up for his progressive values from the Iraq war to trade. He refused to kowtow to the DC Dem establishment and built a genuine grassroots prairie fire with support from all the big blogs. He showed what firing up your base can achieve.

The real surprise was Marcy Winograd. She had no money, none of the major blogs got behind her campaign, she got into the race late and her campaign was amateurish. Yet she stood strong for progressive values and was able to get the grassroots - the core progressive base in her district fired up and turn up to the tune of 37% of the vote in a race where Harman had the name id and the big money to blanket the airwaves for weeks. The lesson from this performance is that progressive candidates that stand strongly for principle, who get into races early and energize the local base have a great opportunity. What can tip these candidates over is strong national netroots financial and buzz support.

The tea leaves from yesterday are that candidates that have courage of conviction and unafraid to stand up for progressive values can fire up the base and win Indys too and despite the money disadvantage can win. For the general in Nov, the Dems opportunity to really gain a majority is closing down fast. The progressive base will not turnout unless they are inspired. When the base is energized by strong candidates unfraid to run on progressive values and character and the netroots are coordinated and orchestrated the Dems will be unstoppable. They then have the opportunity to win both the Senate and House. The Emmanuel/Schumer DC Dem establishment strategy of being invisible and triangulating to victory will only lead to results of the past several elections - another lost opportunity.

I hope progressives learn and start preparing now for the 2008 primaries. The netroots can lead the way in preparing now a framework for a 50 state, every congressional district stand up progressive challenge in the 2008 Dem primaries.


by ab initio on Wed Jun 07, 2006 at 10:52:32 AM EST

Notice Where We Won an Where We Lost (none / 0)

Simply put, this all goes back to Rahm Emmanuel.

He was trying to frame the inability to take back the House in '06 on Pelosi and Dean and gee how much better he would be as minority leader in '06 to pave the way for Hillary in '08.

In the races where the D Triple C didn't or wouldn't get involved...lots of candidates figured out not only how to get the progressive base to turn out...but they also figured out how to stoke majority appeal.

Angelides victory is huge...Tester's equally huge. Baxley's win in Alabama also is big.

Dean's efforts at the state level seem to be working. Our Senate candidates seem also poised to reduce the Republican majority there.

But good ol' Rahm seems ready to throw the House to defeat if it ensures his own personal gain. Yikes.


by risenmessiah on Wed Jun 07, 2006 at 07:09:13 PM EST
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What Really Wins (none / 0)

It depends on how you define "progressive".  Read my diary about the CA gov race.  Angelides is a pretty traditional Democrat, supported by the unions, who is not afraid to talk about the need for taxes.  This election was a triumph of traditional organization over "cybercampaigning" by a multi-millionaire.  Westly tried to position himself as a "new Democrat" but he conducted a traditional negative Garry South campaign.  He never really decided who he was, and he came of as Mr Insincere.  I don't think the netroots were a factor at all, what with Kos' "plague on both of your houses."

What I think you are trying to say is that having definite positions on issues, even if they are not necessarily "popular" wins over blandness and negativity.  What I draw from the CA Gov race and Tester is that people want to be inspired, they want to see a positive message, they don't just want negative dreck.  This isn't necessarily a matter of "progressive" so much as being willing to stand for something.  

Bilbray isn't progressive, but he is a moderate Republican.  He did have an environmental record.  But he has more of the libertarian about him, more of the SD high-tech world, and in this sense he is more like Westly, who ran away from the unions.  

I'd say the message of the CA Gov and Tester races is that quirky sells this year, especially if coupled to some strong positions.

The CA-50 race is a tough one for Dems to win.  Maybe a different candidate could have won it--a "fighting Dem", maybe, or a Lamont-type progressive entrepreneur.  But as I said in my diary, the latter kind of candidacy can't be run by a consultant who specializes in negative campaigning.  That is the real message--people want inspiration and they want to know where the candidate stands.  That is not necessarily "progressive".  It is just being willing to take risks and capitalize on who you are, not run from it.


by Mimikatz on Wed Jun 07, 2006 at 10:54:41 AM EST

Re: What Really Wins (none / 0)

"What I think you are trying to say is that having definite positions on issues, even if they are not necessarily "popular" wins over blandness and negativity."

Right on - conviction wins.


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Albert Yee
Philadelphia, PA
http://dragonballyee.com/blog
by Albert on Wed Jun 07, 2006 at 12:38:32 PM EST
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You've got to be kidding me (none / 0)

Matt-

This has got to be one of the most bizarre analyses of an election I've ever read.  The district had 155,000 registered GOP voters 105,000 registered Dems.  Busby is an uncharismatic, error prone candidate who ran as a soccer mom and really couldn't distinguish herself in any way other than as a generic Democrat.

So because Duke Cunningham won this district for years with 65%+ of the vote, I guess he ran as an unabahsed progressive too.  Hell, he voted for increased fuel efficiency standards and for the Clean Water Act too.  

San Diegans will always vote for clean water and clean air, they live in an area where those issues cut across party lines just as they do in New York and Washington state.  


by eeor on Wed Jun 07, 2006 at 10:55:32 AM EST

Re: Progressive Messaging Wins: Tester, Angelides, (none / 0)

I agree, Busby ran a "safe" campaign based on the assumption that CA-50 voters would react against any Republican to punish Cunningham.  It might have worked against any of the other Republican candidates, but Bilbray was able to hold the center and not lose the right.  

What strikes me is the level to which voters simple rejected both candidates.  In 2004, Busby lost to Cunningham and yet managed to convince over 100,000 people to vote for her.  

In the special election, Busby was able to get nearly 60,000 voters to mark her name.

In the run-off election, for all the marbles, the Busby campaign could only generate 56,000 votes.

That tells me that the safe message could not overcome the disgust of the electorate and that many potential Democratic voters simple stayed home because no one engaged them with meaningful ideas.


by Words Have Power on Wed Jun 07, 2006 at 11:00:47 AM EST

Re: Progressive Messaging Wins: Tester, Angelides, (none / 0)

I knocked doors for Busby in April - and this is an uneducated electorate.  The learning curve here for voters was big - a primary, a run off, and another election in November.  This is a Republican district  - saying Busby is not a progressive and thats why she lost is such a bunch of crap. There were more GOPers than Ds.  They spent more.  They also had state GOP elections coinciding with these special election days. If you want to blame someone why don't you examine the DCCC?  Did they get in early enough?  Did they spend enough?  I bet if Tester had lost you'd find a way to turn on him too.


by jesusquintana on Wed Jun 07, 2006 at 11:05:30 AM EST

Re: Progressive Messaging Wins: Tester, Angelides, (none / 0)

I have yet to come across an informed electorate in my time here in the Philadelphia area canvassing.  I don't think they really exist and our goal must be to educate.


--
Albert Yee
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by Albert on Wed Jun 07, 2006 at 12:40:07 PM EST
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Busby (none / 0)

Busby came up a bit short in a substantial Repub district where the NRCC dropped major dollars shows that she has the opportunity to win in Nov.

But its going to require a lot better Dem & Indy turnout. If registered Dems are this apathetic it will be tough to win in wingnut strongholds.

Busby has to start right now to get the Dems to vote early. She knows the difference she needs to make up. The grassroots and netroots should redouble their efforts for Nov as this race is winnable.


by ab initio on Wed Jun 07, 2006 at 11:06:15 AM EST

Re: Progressive Messaging Wins: Tester... (none / 0)

This is disappointing.  She forced the GOP to lose more than $4 million in what should've been a safe district and came within 5% of winning and you seem to treat this as a campaign failure?  The fact that we brought such a conservative district to be so close means that we can expect, using similar tactics, to be able to get blowouts in the truly competitive districts.  This was a good sign, not a bad sign.  Winning would've been icing on the cake, but let's be realistic - this election was a trial run.  And 50-45?  That's a pretty good trial.


by auronrenouille on Wed Jun 07, 2006 at 11:14:27 AM EST

Re: Progressive Messaging Wins: Tester... (none / 0)

auronrenouille - werd


by jesusquintana on Wed Jun 07, 2006 at 11:16:47 AM EST
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Re: Progressive Messaging Wins: Tester... (none / 0)

I have no idea what "werd" is supposed to mean.  But if you are saying that auronrenouille's comment doesn't make any sense, you are right.

If the Republicans are forced to spend huge amounts of money to defend their seats, they will simply raise huge amounts of money to defend their seats.

There is simply too much at stake for those business interests that benefit from today's corrupt government.  Republicans have proven that they will break the law to get the desired results.

So, no, last night does not represent some sort of victory for the Democrats.  As of this morning, the Republicans have an incumbent in CA-50 and voters have shown a reluctance to vote out incumbents.  We now have the wrong candidate for this district in November -- Busby stands no chance at all, she'll be lucky to get 40%.  And Republicans are one seat closer to maintaining their majority.  Last night was a disaster.


by PageUp on Wed Jun 07, 2006 at 11:28:22 AM EST
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Re: Progressive Messaging Wins (none / 0)

Man, better not post this on DailyKos or you will be banned for life. Markos hates this kind of talk.

I just love those who always fall back on "this is a red district" like eeor.  To them, Democrats will never win where they are minority.

Well, sorry to break it to ya, but Democrats are a minority in a lot of districts -- this is why districts are gerrymandered to look the way they do.  So, what are we to do, not put up candidates?

You win in "red" districts by putting up good candidates and telling the electorate why you should vote for a certain person.  I live in a "red" district -- yet have a Democratic representative.  My candidate ran a good campaign and put the focus on the issues that were foremost on the mind of the electorate.

ab initio is right, the issue is turnout and apathy.  The blogs give a distorted view of reality: in reality, the electorate is apathetic, they blame both Republicans AND Democrats (despite the wail of those on liberal blogs who refuse to believe this).  They hate Bush, with his 29% approval rating.  But why ignore the fact that Democrats have an approval rating even lower?

Only 34% of registered voters showed up yesterday in California.  Until those who say they care prove it by showing up, the results we saw in CA-50 will be repeated nationally.  I'd like to be excited by Tester's victory last night, but all last night proved to me was that the only way a Democrat can be guaranteed to win is if the opponent is another Democrat.


by PageUp on Wed Jun 07, 2006 at 11:19:18 AM EST

Re: Progressive Messaging Wins (none / 0)

The blogs give a distorted view of reality

Where did you see the predictions of a Busby victory?  Not on this blog, or most blogs.

Bloggers recognize apathy as a strategic obstacle.  Insiders do not.


by Matt Stoller on Wed Jun 07, 2006 at 11:30:59 AM EST
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Re: Progressive Messaging Wins (none / 0)

I can say you're certainly not guilty of this.

But even on this blog, I've seen the standard "we've never seen the Dem base more motivated than today" spiel Schumer and Emanuel are currently running with. (I think it was a Bowers post subsequent to a conference call he was on with those two, part of their "outreach to the blogosphere" initiative no doubt.)

I think we can start saying this DC-Dem narrative of pumped up base is not an accurate picture of the state of the lefty nation. But many of us "powerless ones" suspected this all along.


by redstar67 on Wed Jun 07, 2006 at 02:50:03 PM EST
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Re: Progressive Messaging Wins (none / 0)

I WRITE: The blogs give a distorted view of reality

YOU WRITE: Where did you see the predictions of a Busby victory?  

I WRITE: Where did you see that I said Busby was predicted to win?

Blogs give a distorted view of reality because that view comes from a community of like minded people, something that I would think would be obvious.  It's not like MyDD is a cross-section of America, right?  If it is, then the Republican Party has ceased to exist.


by PageUp on Wed Jun 07, 2006 at 03:37:32 PM EST
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Re: Progressive Messaging Wins (none / 0)

I've just read Markos's post on this election which quotes Matt's excellent post.

What an unbelievable hypocrite!  For two years Kos has been preaching that the party should run away from a progressive agenda by concentrating on the issues competence and corruption.  Now, after yet another loss, he changes his tune and  says this is a formula for disaster.  Well, who the hell wrote this formula anyway?  It was people like Markos who has pleaded for an agenda-less party.

Well, I suppose it is better late than never for Markos.  But I still haven't seen him call for an agenda that can energize the party. Unless the November election is nationalized by introducting a platform Democrats can unite behind, each election will be like CA-50, a battle between those with an agenda and the money to promote it, and candidates who are simply there to provide an alternative.


by PageUp on Wed Jun 07, 2006 at 11:35:56 AM EST
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Re: Progressive Messaging Wins (none / 0)

Where did Kos ever expouse what you just said- and for that matter- where is Matt saying what you are saying? Maybe I misunderstanding here- but I don't think this diary is about any one issue or agenda- it's about character. I read this diary as saying you have to inspire people- not through a list of issues- but through running a none boring, non bland candidate. At least from what I am reading- the point is that last night was (or should have been) a referendum on running bland, stay out of trouble-  and let's hope they will self destruct campaigning. Kos last night made that same point when people were talking about this race. So- again- where have you seen your view of Kos and matt play out- please give us some links.


by bruh21 on Wed Jun 07, 2006 at 11:48:47 AM EST
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Busby and San Diego (none / 0)

Everyone in coastal San Diego County runs as an environmentalist, except maybe Duke, who could play the hero card.  It's simply not a left/right issue down here.  Republicans have to talk about it to establish their credibility.  Democrats typically don't.

But as anyone down here knows, the 50th CD race was, in the end, entirely about immigration.  Bilbray ran hard on the issue, while Busby seemed at a loss as to how to handle it.  At the 11th hour she chose her words poorly, talked about "not needing papers to vote", and was annihilated in the local media.  

To my mind, the fact that she came so close tells us three things: 1) she ran a pretty good campaign for this district; 2) people are still really angry about Duke; and 3) Bilbray is an unappealing, oily lobbyist who doesn't really live in North County (as the locals refer to it).

A truly progressive campaign in the 50th CD would have been a sure loser, in my view.  This is a district of retired military, upscale yuppies (if they're still called that), and Latinos who (unfortunately) still don't vote in very high numbers. Y'know, the 50th did elect Duke over and over again.

Now Bilbray will concentrate on using the powers of his incumbency to his advantage, buy a home in the district, vote the right way, and lock down the 50th for the next decade or so.

Democrats definitely need to build a coherent progressive message and give their voters a reason to go to the polls.  The DLC strategy is both spent and failed.  But the 50th CD is safe GOP turf and Busby's only hope was to fly under the radar and hope that revulsion toward Duke and Bilbray would give her a fluke victory.  It's impressive that she came so close.


by DJ Dave on Wed Jun 07, 2006 at 11:45:16 AM EST

Re: Busby and San Diego (none / 0)

The point is I believe that we haven't experimented to find out. The most salient statement that you make "a true progressive would never win" is exactly the assumption that people have been making for a long time. The question is- is this assumption correct? I believe the point being made is - we don't know. Because no one is trying to run an inspiring campaign except someone like Tester


by bruh21 on Wed Jun 07, 2006 at 11:59:23 AM EST
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Re: Busby and San Diego (none / 0)

Actually, a number of progressive Democrats have run over the years in the 50th and its predecessors.  Of course, they've mostly been unknown and poorly funded, so in that sense I suppose we really haven't had the experiment.  But this is not Montana, which has a history of electing Democrats to statewide office.  The next Democrat to get elected to Congress from North San Diego County will be the first in my lifetime, perhaps ever.


by DJ Dave on Wed Jun 07, 2006 at 12:12:29 PM EST
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Re: Busby and San Diego (none / 0)

the same was true for a lot of Republicans who won during their revolution. That doesn't mean they didn't eventually bring in a revolutionary idea that changed their party's status as the minority. I am a big proponent of innovation- and I believe one of the biggest deficits the Democrats face is what failing businesses face- the inability to innovate. To test strategies to find those which might over the long term lead to the victory that you seek in your district. Too often, I believe the problem right now is that we (on the left) are too busy too desperate for acceptance- so we are willing to come across as fake,e tc to do it. So we lose no only on the issues battle, but also the character debate. Reagan and other Republicans in that sense had it right. Not that they had a better character in fact- but they looked like they did. ANd that gained them life long loyalists to their party. So much of what they trade on now for example is what people believe to be true about the Republican leadership versus what is actually true. it's taken 6 years to even begin to dent these perceptions. What I like about some of what I see i the blogs is that its stuff I am hearing from people - the idea that even if I disagree with you- I want to respect you. And thats whats been missing from the debate. We fit into the stereotype when we try to  run center (whatever the center is this week)


by bruh21 on Wed Jun 07, 2006 at 12:32:00 PM EST
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I heard on Dkos that the turnout was (none / 0)

49% Republican 38% Democrat and 14% Indpendent. The Republican base in the district is just to bi g to win in.


Running the Davis, Nelson Klein team in Florida.
by Liberal on Wed Jun 07, 2006 at 11:46:51 AM EST

Re: Progressive Messaging Wins: Tester, Angelides, (none / 0)

The lesson here is to not analyze after you've been up all night. You may be right about progressives and populists ability to win, but last night didn't prove it. The only populist/progressives you tout that won, won only primaries in their own parties. In general elections other elements are in play- strength of candidate and political make-up of the electorate to name two.


by NPM on Wed Jun 07, 2006 at 11:50:03 AM EST

What an awful and silly thing to say (none / 0)

about a candidate this website, Kos and countless others supported enthusiastically. We win some and we lose some, but I definitely expected us to win this one and I'm very disappointed that we lost. But to turn around and say the reason Bilbray won was cos he appealed to CA-50 voters as a progressive while the Democrat wasn't is insane and probably the worst form of revisionism this side of common sense. I mean let's face it..maybe she wasn't a great candidate but she tried and we tried to support her, but we did not win. We could have won this seat (55% Bush mark in 2004) and we need to win seats like this if we plan taking back Congress. But its also quite possible that voters in this district just did not buy the argument to "send a message" to the GOP by picking a Dem/Progressive. Bilbray is, was and will never be a progressive...he's an anti-immigrant (read anti-brown skin) card carrying GOP who only chalked up moderate votes in Congress cos his old district was more liberal..once he gets back to DC, he's going to side with the RSC and their ilk like white on rice. Its bad enough we have yet to win one netroots inspired Congressional election this cycle, but for God's sake..don't insult our intelligence by kicking our candidate for losing by saying he/she lost cos the other guy used our message. That's absolute baloney. Believe it or not, progressive/liberal politics don't work everywhere no matter how hard you try and I think Busby tried the best she could.


by dantata on Wed Jun 07, 2006 at 11:50:20 AM EST

Re: What an awful and silly thing to say (none / 0)

I think the question is whether y our view that progressive views wouldn't work really true or whether the real question is the character of the people running?


by bruh21 on Wed Jun 07, 2006 at 12:09:07 PM EST
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Re: What an awful and silly thing to say (none / 0)

What I was getting at and I think its what Matt was implying was that Busby lost because the "progressive message" that she allegedly did not project was projected by Bilbray, such that immigration aside, Bilbray's other positions did not convince enough indy's or persuadable Reps to vote for Busby. That would only be true if (1) the majority voters yesterday where indys and persuadable reps and (2) Busby would gain more votes for additonal progressive messaging than she'd lose to and (3) conservative Bilbray voters were less affected by Bilbray's alleged progressive messaging to not vote for him. That line of thinking fails the smell test since the district is solidly GOP and Busby was not a GOP candidate and the turnout in the district was predominantly GOP. I mean..how is a progressive message going to get GOP conservative votes (the antithesis of progressive) if as Matt suggested, Busby being moderate did not. Also, this could only work if progressive voters stayed home or voted for Bilbray..which would be crazy in a GOP district..the logic does not work.


by dantata on Wed Jun 07, 2006 at 12:55:13 PM EST
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Re: What an awful and silly thing to say (none / 0)

Re-reading his post- I think the problem is that he is placing several concepts together which may not be placed together. I think that I took his character statement- versus the whole progressive argument - to be the most salient. In other words, that being able to differentiate yourself from the other guy- and stick out in the crowd- is the salient element- and that here the proxy for that is progressive values. I hate to use this buzz word- but I think what we are really talking about here is authenticy- or at least the appearance of it that the American public an discern. Like I really heard on tv- the American people may disagree with you- but if they think you are authentic they will give you the benefit of the doubt. I am not saying it will matter in district like this- but in the toss up districts- the benefit of the doubt as it relates to character matters a lot, ie, look how McCain trades on his "mackeverick" status despite having done nothing recently to reinforce this popular meme. The issue of character is important because it probably would allow greater issues flexibility than what we are seeing now. its been my experience - at least on a pscyho-social level- that when someone gives you the benefit of the doubt b/c they like your character- they tend to be more forgiving of disagreeing with your positions. I think this is what is being read from the Tester primary win and the govenors win a few years before. Frankly, its what i hoped to see more tests of this year in places like Ohio with Hackett - to see with the proper funding and proper candidate- does it matter where they stand on issues such as gay marriage for example or are the pundits right? Frankly I cant remember any election in recently where this has been tested? People can point to bill clinton- but the problem there is that we can't tell whether it was his charisma or the circumstances or triangulation which shaped 92. This is the question we have here- what really works, what doesn't? I have no idea really if Matt or Sirota are right- what I like is that they are bringing a new idea to the table rather than continuing with stale assumptions- ie we must move to the center- is that true? when was the last time anyone really asked that question and tried to test to see if its true?


by bruh21 on Wed Jun 07, 2006 at 01:25:54 PM EST
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Re: Progressive Messaging Wins: Tester, Angelides, (none / 0)

This is what is unrealistsic: CA-50 is a GOP majority disctrict and while it is certainly disappointing that Busby didn't win, it was also not a shock.  Here is what else is disappointing: progressives (esp. bloggers) beating up on everyone who doesn't meet their moving target of a standard for a candidate or a campaign.  Matt, I would like to see you get on the ground and recruit some "progessive" candidates, run them in a district like CA-50 and see how it goes...  How can you expect ANYONE to want to participate when progressives sit back, watch and try to be the smartest guy in the room, poking holes in campaigns?  While criticism is often deserved, so is some respect - if you aren't running yourself, if you're not on the ground, have some appreciation for those that are.


by jesusquintana on Wed Jun 07, 2006 at 11:54:19 AM EST

Re: Progressive Messaging Wins: (3.00 / 1)

LOL winograd better than expected? ha.  Her supporters were saying she was 'running even'. she got crushed because Harman isnt that conservative and the district isnt ultra-liberal like Winograd is, with a neville chamberlein esque stance on foreign policy


by yomoma2424 on Wed Jun 07, 2006 at 12:15:09 PM EST

Expectation straw man (3.00 / 0)

"Expectations" aren't usually measured by the candidate's supporters' views, unless the measurer is looking for a straw man to pummel.  Rather, the more objective expectation that Harman would win handily is from conventional wisdom pundits, based on Harman's seniority, money, far superior initial name recognition and hence, inertia.  She was forced to campaign for the first time in 6 years, and rhetorically and in her springtime Congressional actions moved to the left on the central campaign issues (at least for now), all in an attempt to blunt the insurgent message. If Harman had not responded to the Winograd campaign by adopting Winograd's positions, the race would have been tighter.  


Buddy Gottlieb
by budlawman on Wed Jun 07, 2006 at 09:15:12 PM EST
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what;s that you are saying? (none / 0)

So its Busby's fault......


by aiko on Wed Jun 07, 2006 at 12:15:10 PM EST

Re: what;s that you are saying? (none / 0)

Or are you saying that 24/7 anti-brown skin messaging is progressive???

that's what Bilbray did--that's who he is....

hello?


by aiko on Wed Jun 07, 2006 at 12:29:28 PM EST
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One More Thing... (none / 0)

...then I'll sit back and listen here and on the corresponding DKos thread.

Maybe this District liked "Duke," minus the corruption.

They did elect and re-elect him. Maybe they just wanted him without the bribery. That sounds about like what they're gtting with Bilbray.

Forest? What forest?


by bkharmony on Wed Jun 07, 2006 at 12:15:38 PM EST

Duke does come off REALLY well... (none / 0)

...in History Channel docs having to do with fighter jets/pilots, grandfatherly and extremely personable, pretty charismatic. And that's even AFTER I knew he was rotten to the core.


by MNPundit on Wed Jun 07, 2006 at 03:33:59 PM EST
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Re: Progressive Messaging Wins: Tester, Angelides, (none / 0)

Do people commenting here understand what this district is?  It's North County San Diego.  Quite wealthy (especially along the coast) and extremely suburban.  These are people who choose commute an hour to work each day into the city and back to live their suburban lifestyle away from San Diego (which is a very nice city).  They choose to sit in traffic on 78 (if you've lived there you know exactly what I mean).  By any stretch of the imagination this is not prime Democratic territory.  It just isn't.  

What was Busby supposed to do?  Get more progressives?  From where?  Where is the Democratic stronghold in CA-50?  I don't see any.  She needed to grab independents and moderate Republicans (who are all over the district).  She didn't get enough.

People seem to be under the impression that we can take any seat if we just campaign correctly.  Even in a perfect world with unlimited resources, we can't.  We can, however, force Republicans to spend resources and, in this situation, learn from our mistakes and try again in November.


by Double B on Wed Jun 07, 2006 at 12:35:43 PM EST

Re: Progressive Messaging Wins: Tester, Angelides, (none / 0)

or maybe the assumption is to test new approaches to see what works and what doesn't?


by bruh21 on Wed Jun 07, 2006 at 01:28:02 PM EST
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Re: Progressive Messaging Wins: Tester, Angelides, (none / 0)

or to put another way- to allow for a little "creative destruction" that will cause innovation in the strategies that the party has been using.


by bruh21 on Wed Jun 07, 2006 at 01:30:37 PM EST
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Part Right (none / 0)

I agree with you on the bad advice and the detachment, but I'm not sure that it was progressivism that was lacking so much as tangible proposals.


by Lucas O'Connor on Wed Jun 07, 2006 at 12:51:49 PM EST

Lame (none / 0)

Busby was the hero of the netroots untill last night. Bashing her as an 'insider' today is silly.  This was Duke Cunningham's district, and so they might even like insiders.

Plus, being the 'anti-corruption' pol makes a lot of sense in her position (replacing the dukestir, and what is a dem to do in a heavy rep district)

If anything, it was probably the two idiots running for the governor primary.

I'm glad angelides won. I don't know anything about him but he sounds Mexican so that will help get more Mexicans to the polls on election day. Busby might have a chance then.


by delmoi on Wed Jun 07, 2006 at 01:01:48 PM EST

Re: Lame (none / 0)

Maybe this isn't about Busby but about a larger point about what strategies work and what doesnt?


by bruh21 on Wed Jun 07, 2006 at 01:27:12 PM EST
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Re: Lame (none / 0)

Of course it is but Matt and Kos linked her to the debate


by aiko on Wed Jun 07, 2006 at 03:29:59 PM EST
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Re: Progressive Messaging Wins: Bilbray? (none / 0)

Actually, what Bilbray served was the San Diego Republican Special.  Go right and left of your opponent simultaneously and end up looking more moderate.  This is what Dick Murphy did to Ron Roberts the first race for mayor.  And let me tell you, it was a thing of beauty to behold.

Bilbray used progressive ideals on the environment to soften his hard-line stance on immigration.  What drives me nuts is that Bilbray has always done this, and the DCCC has run 3 campaigns against this guy (1998, 2000, and 2006) and completely forgot about this.

Busby was also not a strong candidate.  She lacked experience and ability to convey her message.  So when the going got rough, she listened to the DC guys and not her heart (or at least the San Diego guys).  Its not that she wasn't progressive, its that she had no idea how to articulate her message.  She didn't impress people.

So, I think the real message of the night is that having a good candidate matters.  Dems, even with netroots support, don't have the resources to elect a stuffed shirt (and particularly not in a +14 Rep seat).  Still, the difference was only 4 points, so all in all, I figure the Dems have a +10 advantage.


by Jim Treglio on Wed Jun 07, 2006 at 01:17:49 PM EST

Feel your anger but disagree with your assessment (none / 0)

It's like comparing apples and oranges to compare the Busby campaign's situation with Angelides and Tester.  Angelides and Tester ran in party primaries.  Busby race yesterday was in a special general election and her race in April was an OPEN special primary election.  Believe me, in that district she was considered a flaming liberal.  In many parts of that Republicant district, "running the trains on time" is a socialist concept.  Notice that the Libertarian candidate pulled about 4% of the vote, and that is an underperformance compared to past elections.  There are many libertarian-minded social conservatives in this district... unless the libertarian issue concerns civil liberties and rights.  They believe in less or no government (but they'd better get their social security check on time!).  Everyone knew who the progressive was: Busby.  The posturing that you wanted her to do (in hindsight only) would only have waved the red flag at hardcore rightwingers to come out and vote against her.  And that is what happened with her "you don't need papers" stumble.  The Minutemen and other rightwingers did email blitzes of that video to the media, conservatives, and targeted voters over the weekend to try to turn them out to vote against her.  What she did in this race for local Democrats and progressives is tremendous.  Please cut her some slack.


by Phonatic on Wed Jun 07, 2006 at 01:27:03 PM EST

Re: Progressive Messaging Wins: Tester, Angelides, (3.00 / 1)

Matt I have to disagree on points.  But fisrt I offer this disclaimer.  I am a spirited progressive and am unapoligetic about it.  That being said I think you're arguments are off-base and oppurtunistic.  I do not seek to attack progressives, nor progressive policies.  It is simply my goal to rebuff poor logic before it becomes conventional wisdom and challenge progressives to rethink their tactics and arguments.

First, I think your comparisons are poor.  Tester and Phil A. were running as progressives in Democratic primaries.  Of course their progressivism was popular.  Busby on the other hand was running in  a general election in a district that is 44% Republican.  The difference between a primary and a general is like night and day.

Second, you're argument ignores (or forgets) important information.  Phil has amazing name recognition in CA, he might have run anywhere on the Democratic spectrum and won.  And Testers primary opponent was up in the polls until certain "character issues" were make public.

Third, there's more it than 'message'  Message is ONE element of a sucessful campaign.  The blogosphere seems particularly, and overly, obsessed with it.  Whenever I hear complaints about I message, I suspect I'm hearing from someone who want to "talk the talk, but won't walk the walk."  

Bilbray received less than 50% of the vote.
And at least part of the decline in support can be attributed to corruption and competence, simply because it didn't 'get the job done' isn't reason enough it reject it.  It brought Bilbray below 50% in a district that performs, on averge, close to 60% for Republicans.  Imagine how powerful this national message will be in district that aren;t Republican strongholds!

I'm glad Francine ran a tough race and I think she deserves our condolences, not oppurtunistic second guessing.


by tpine on Wed Jun 07, 2006 at 02:18:11 PM EST

Re: Progressive Messaging Wins: Tester, Angelides, (none / 0)

One quibble about Tester, could the Morrison scandal have really made a difference of 25 points? That's unbelievable! I won't buy that one thing would completely blow him out of the water that badly. Maybe if Tester had won 55-45, or even 60-40, but 60-35! Even without the scandal, I think Tester would have won though not by as much.


by MNPundit on Wed Jun 07, 2006 at 03:39:49 PM EST
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Re: Progressive Messaging Wins: (none / 0)

Great Post! I So agree with you on this race.

I was astounded by the poor quality of the Busby media presentation. The creative execution and production was godawful and the strategy was all wrong. With the time, energy and money that was spent on this race (not to mention the high stakes), there was no excuse for this.

A few humble observations:

1. This is totally a DCCC effort. All of the consultants on the Busby campaign were probably the "best of the best" DCCC approved consultants. I think they are full of shit. These guys should be sued for malpractice for this stuff. Pathetic and inexcusable. TV, website, graphics, photography-- all horrendous.

2. The television ads were downright amateurish. You should NEVER script a non-actor.  

3. I hate to even get into the message thing--the aesthetics were bad enough. But it was all research-driven milquetoast. Especially offensive was the anti-corruption ad about NO Exceptions, blah, blah, blah-- totally the party line on lobbying reform-- no gifts and all that phony shit!  It totally ignores the real corruption issue, which is public financing of  campaigns.

3. The graphics sucked. Confused and not clean at all. Who designs this stuff??

4. The website was totally uninspiring. Horrible digital photographs, links that didn't work and a layout from the last decade.

5. The photography is strictly OLAN MILLS --  they obviously never heard of a stylist or an art director.  

OK, OK! That's enough, but suffice it to say, if she had won, she would have won NOT because of her DCCC "approved consultants" but despite them. She'll have another shot at the guy in November, but she'll need a much better creative effort.  

We progressives have most of the great creative film people and producers on our side. We don't have to settle for hack producers, photographers, filmmakers, web designers, etc.  We can do so much better. Let's hope the powers that be in DEE CEE hear see the handwriting on the wall. Straight ahead!


by Bocotton Stormfield on Wed Jun 07, 2006 at 03:09:26 PM EST

Re: Progressive Messaging Wins: (none / 0)

Especially offensive was the anti-corruption ad about NO Exceptions, blah, blah, blah-- totally the party line on lobbying reform-- no gifts and all that phony shit!  It totally ignores the real corruption issue, which is public financing of  campaigns.

I'm sorry, but that's crazy talk.  Had Busby advocated publicly financed elections, she would have handed the Republicans their winning one-liner: "Francine Busby is a Communist."

I mean, come on.  This is John Birch country.  This is the county that still won't flouridate their water because they think it is a commie plot.  These are the people who voluntarily dismantled the best schools in the country in the 80s rather than pay a few cents in property taxes.  Publicly financed elections are a winner here?  Don't make me sneer.


by Jay on Thu Jun 08, 2006 at 12:38:38 AM EST
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Campaign Finance Reform (none / 0)

I am NOT saying that she should have come out for public financing of elections. I agree that this is probably an issue best left alone in this district. I am saying that it is totally phony and disingenuous to try to sell the party line on lobbying reform unless they were willing to talk about real campaign reform, which means public financing of elections. I was offended that they would try to use such transparent ruse (no gifts, no trips, etc.) to look like she was all serious about reform. Democrats can't win on phony issues.

There were many issues she could have talked about that would have resonated in this district--the "lobbyists'" environmental program, the Iraq miasma, the mismanaged economy, our disastrous energy policy, etc. The point is that the DCCC missed the whole point on this. They assumed that the Duke Cunningham scandal defined the issue. Wrong as usual.


by Bocotton Stormfield on Thu Jun 08, 2006 at 01:45:11 PM EST
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Re: Progressive Messaging Wins: Tester, Angelides, (3.00 / 0)

I think the real story that you're missing is the fact that the 50th is a district where immigration really is a potent issue.

It is a wealthy, conservative suburban (historically) white district.  Less than a hour from the border.  This is the demographic imgigration plays too...and it couldn't put Bilbray above 50%.

I think that's reason for hope, not criticism.


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Re: Progressive Messaging Wins: Tester, Angelides, (none / 0)

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