California Returns Thread

I am closing the first thread. Great night for Tester. Let's pull out another win in CA-50. Follow the results here for CA-50, and here for everything else.
  • See my final thoughts before bed in the post above this one.
  • Not good. With 56.6% reporting, Bilbray leads 49.82%--44.71%.
  • The LA Times is about to call for Angelides.
  • 51.0% reporting. Bilbray leads 49.66%--44.84%.
  • 46.4% reporting. Bilbray leads 49.67%--44.70%.
  • 42.4% reporting. Bilbray leads 33,468--30,190.
  • 35.6% reporting. Bilbray leads 30,683--27,383.
  • 30% reporting. Bilbray leads 28,568--25,605. Busby is slowly gaining ground. The lead is now under 3K.
  • 25% reporting. Bilbray leads 26,637--23,461. Made some gains there, but we are bascially back to where we started with the absentees.
  • 20% reporting. Bilbray leads 24,786--21,269. Moving in the wrong direction.
  • OK, spomething is happening. 9 more precincts in, and Busby closes the gap slightly. She now trails 21,602--18,560. That is an improvement of about 100 votes in 9 precincts. Good enough.
  • Clarification: expect an "update," not necessarily results. I'm really glad I don't have to travel across country in thirty hours, or move next week, or anything.
  • Oh yeah--since these updates aren't timed, I should note that by half an hour, I mean at around 1:25 am eastern.
  • I just heard from a source that we should expect results in around thirty mintues or so.
  • Since I am bored, I noticed that the NRCC, with $25M cash on hand, spent $4.5 million in this race. That is nearly 20% of their entire cash on hand. Also, all Republicans combined spent well over $11M. Even if Bilbray wins, that means Republicans are going to have to come up with $600 million just to defend the House, considering that there are around 55 serious Demcoratic challenges. Goooood luck with that.
  • Nothing is happening, nothing is happening, nothing is happening.
  • One mystery solved. In April there were 445 precincts. Now, there are 500 precincts with 57 reporting. In other words, I have a feeling that 57 precints that do not exist are reporting. The early results are clearly all absentee.
  • Here is the thing about CA-Gov primary: I don't care about the CA-Gov primary. Someone will win. Hopefully that person will beat the atrocity in Sacramento. It probably won't be decided tonight anyway.
  • In CA-36, Jane Harman has 69.5% of the vote among absentees. Doesn't look like that is going to happen.
  • As people have noted int he comments, there is not way 57 precincts could have all counted and reported within seconds of the polls closing. The results so far must be all absentees.
  • Some less good news. From Chrstine Pelosi:
    It is approximately 40,000 of an estimated 55-60,000 absentees total and absentees plus 57 of 500 precincts reporting.
    That measn there are more absentees to come, andBilbray 3,100 vote lead already includes some voting from today. That makes things more difficult.
  • The NRCC claimed they would be leading by 10,000 votes after the absentees, because 10,000 more R's voted absentee than D's. However, they are only leading by 3,000 votes. That indicates a massive surge for Busby among independents. I like our chances.



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Re: California Returns Thread (none / 0)

Chris, are you sure that those are all of the absentees?


by AdyBarkan on Tue Jun 06, 2006 at 11:48:46 PM EST

Pelosi says there were 55,000-60,000 absentees (none / 0)

projected. What we have so far totals about 40,000 absentees. So does that mean only 2/3 of the absentees have been counted? If so, wouldn't that interpolate into a 5,000 Bilbray lead after all absentees are counted? Or are Pelosi's figures wrong on the total number of absentees? She may be using ballots sent out. That does not necessarily mean they were all returned.


by Jersey Devil on Tue Jun 06, 2006 at 11:56:05 PM EST

Not necessarily (none / 0)

The results released already for absentees were for AV ballots cast before today.  They may have a different partisan breakdown than the ones cast today.

Interesting that the GOP was gloating that the initial absentee ballots had 10,000 more R's than D's, which only translated into a 3000 vote lead for Bilbray.

One explanation is certainly the independents; another is that a lot of R's are defecting from Bilbray.


by jonweasel on Wed Jun 07, 2006 at 12:44:38 AM EST
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Pelosi may be wrong about 57 precincts (none / 0)

besides the absentees. Either that or the official results page is pretty sloppy because it says at the very top in bold letters that it is absentee votes only.

Go to the link:

http://www.sdvote.org/election/congress. xml


by Jersey Devil on Wed Jun 07, 2006 at 12:06:15 AM EST

And the numbers came out in a heartbeat (none / 0)

No way they counted 57 precincts that fast.


Saxby Chambliss is a disgrace.
by ATL Dem on Wed Jun 07, 2006 at 12:08:58 AM EST
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Re: California Returns Thread (3.00 / 0)

CA-36 does have a primary.
Beyond the Gov primary and CA-50 race.
Joe Biden for President! Wes Clark for Secretary of Defense!
by Joshua Sperati on Wed Jun 07, 2006 at 12:14:20 AM EST

Re: California Returns Thread (none / 0)

Can we get an accurate precinct count?  The April CA-50 special lists 445 total.  Now we're suddenly up to 500?


by looking italian on Wed Jun 07, 2006 at 12:24:01 AM EST

Re: California Returns Thread (none / 0)

Er, two posts down you said that if Busby is more than 4% behind after the absentees Bilbray will win. We're way past that margin. Was the previous observation wrong or am I somehow not understanding the math.


by js noble on Wed Jun 07, 2006 at 12:27:04 AM EST

Re: California Returns Thread (none / 0)

Teh total number of absentee votes is less than I expected. I was imagining them to be around 60% of the total vote. It looks like they will only be around 35%.
by Chris Bowers on Wed Jun 07, 2006 at 12:30:36 AM EST
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Re: California Returns Thread (none / 0)

Also, it seems like everyone except the folks tallying the Guvy race have decided to go home for the night. The only race getting updated is the Gov primary; everyone else is still stuck on absentees.


by Rafe Noboa on Wed Jun 07, 2006 at 12:28:08 AM EST

Re: California Returns Thread (none / 0)

But Barabara BOXER endorses Angelides.  ANGELIDES is obviously the progressive candidate in this race.  And as blogswarm has sagely noted, Westley is DLC.  ANGELIDES must therefore win the primary.


by illinois062006 on Wed Jun 07, 2006 at 12:31:11 AM EST

Re: California Returns Thread (none / 0)

I am not EXPENDING and emotional ENERGY on an argument THAT thin.
by Chris Bowers on Wed Jun 07, 2006 at 12:35:16 AM EST
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Re: California Returns Thread (none / 0)

I will.  She claims he is responsible for the reinvigoration of the Democratic party in 1992.  Securing the victories of Boxer, Feinstein and Clinton after the state had repeatedly voted for Republican Presidents, Angelides changed California politics.  This is a major feat, and I believe he sould be given a minimal amount of credit for building the party in Ronald Raegan's home state.  Angelides is also the only candidate brave enough to challenge Arnold before he started to dive in the polls.  In addition to Angelides policies, his success at building the party in California is enough to gain my unqualified support.


by illinois062006 on Wed Jun 07, 2006 at 01:25:17 AM EST
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Re: California Returns Thread (none / 0)

I will, for it is not as weak as you state.  According to Boxer, Angelides built the Democratic party during the early 1990s, securing the victories of Boxer, Feinstein and Clinton in a state that voted for a Republican president in seven consecutive elections.  This, I believe, is a major feat, as is Angelides's decision to challenge Arnold before the latter dived in the polls.  Besides having a better policy stances, Angelides built the Democratic party in California, where I lived for five years.  He has my unqualified support, and I wish other Democrats built the party instead of merely running for office without having had performed the hard work of expanding our base.


by illinois062006 on Wed Jun 07, 2006 at 01:32:25 AM EST
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Re: California Returns Thread (none / 0)

I realize this is snark, but it just reminds me how angry I am that Boxer endorsed, and even appeared in commercials for, Fiona Ma in CA assembly dist 12. As easily the least effective and arguably least progressive member of the SF board of supervisors, of course she deserved a promotion. Feh.


by taliesin on Wed Jun 07, 2006 at 12:49:39 AM EST
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Re: California Returns Thread (none / 0)

Yeah, but think about it.  Send Fiona Ma to Sacramento.  Please.


by jwb on Wed Jun 07, 2006 at 02:44:05 AM EST
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Who's smokin' doobies in California? (none / 0)

It's been 90 minutes since the polls closes, and still no new update on CA-50.   Usually you see at least a few trickling in by now...  


by jhlinko on Wed Jun 07, 2006 at 12:34:23 AM EST

Re: Who's smokin' doobies in California? (3.00 / 1)

This was about the time frame back in April. I expect new results any minute ow.
by Chris Bowers on Wed Jun 07, 2006 at 12:35:39 AM EST
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Re: Who's smokin' doobies in California? (none / 0)

Thanks, Chris.  I'm getting tired... but won't be able to sleep without SOME sense of how this is going...  ;)


by jhlinko on Wed Jun 07, 2006 at 12:36:35 AM EST
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Live Coverage (none / 0)

Live coverage on the NBC affiliate in San Diego.


by Meade on Wed Jun 07, 2006 at 01:14:55 AM EST
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are you telling me... (none / 0)

i should stay up for 15 more minutes?

damn manm, i'm tired.  been up since 7am.


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by annatopia on Wed Jun 07, 2006 at 12:39:08 AM EST
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Re: are you telling me... (none / 0)

I feel your pain, Anna... been up since waaaay early...  


by jhlinko on Wed Jun 07, 2006 at 12:43:08 AM EST
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Re: are you telling me... (none / 0)

i can't even spell anymore, that's how tired i am.

been trying to adjust to an earlier schedule recently, as i am fixing to start college again.  i went from getting up at 9am to getting up at 7am and it's killing me.

damn, we need some returns soon.  i am fading fast.


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by annatopia on Wed Jun 07, 2006 at 12:44:51 AM EST
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Re: are you telling me... (none / 0)

Good luck with college.  I'm on an entirely different type of sleep deprivation --- 3 month old baby.   Adorable, but... still not sleeping through most nights.   :)


by jhlinko on Wed Jun 07, 2006 at 12:46:24 AM EST
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babies... (none / 0)

yea i hear that doesn't end until about six months. good luck catching up on your sleep, and thanks for the kind words.  i'm actually pretty excited about it.  i never finished college when i started ages ago (something about spending my twenties burning brain cells, heh).  just trying to finish up ASAP and get out of the damn tech field.  i'm burnt on that.

speaking of burnt, i'm going to bed.  i can't stay up any longer.  

yall have a good night, and i hope to read some good news in the A.M.


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by annatopia on Wed Jun 07, 2006 at 12:53:05 AM EST
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Re: Who's smokin' doobies in California? (none / 0)

Even though turnout was low, there are problems due to to decertification of the Diebold machines. IN Alameda County we voted by bubbling in a paper ballot.  Count will be slow.  marin County is half way through, and Joe Nation is being crushed by Lynn Woolsey.  He was a pro-business Dem who was termed out of the Legislature and thought this would be an easy ride.  Not so.


by Mimikatz on Wed Jun 07, 2006 at 01:17:14 AM EST
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Re: Who's smokin' doobies in California? (none / 0)

That was in CA-6th CD.  Pombo in CA-11 is winning, but at one point was at 55%.


by Mimikatz on Wed Jun 07, 2006 at 01:19:18 AM EST
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Some good news from CA (none / 0)

    Of course it is ridiculously early, but based on mostly absentees, the race for Secretary of State aka "the battle of the Debbies" Bowen is leading Ortiz with 65% of the vote. Nothing against St Sen Deborah Ortiz, but Debra Bowen is the best Dem candidate for any of the statewide offices and she looks to be in good shape. Bowen is the one that will make fair elections with accurate vote counting a reality in CA. We have to work hard to be sure that she can beat the supposedly "moderate" appointed GOP incumbent McPherson in the general election.
    In other early results it looks like Jerry Brown will be our nominee for Attorney General. This might or might not be a good thing for political expediency, but Rocky Delgadillo is a putz (how's that for LA multiculturalism) so I ain't complaining...
by Zack from the SFV on Wed Jun 07, 2006 at 12:36:34 AM EST

WHAT ARE THE ACTUALLY NUMBERS RIGHT NOW? (none / 0)

WHAT ARE THE NUMBERS AS OF NOW? I'M TRYING TO FIND THE HARD NUMBERS BUT CAN'T.


by LA Democrat on Wed Jun 07, 2006 at 12:42:35 AM EST

Nothing (none / 0)

We have absolutely NOTHING but absentee ballots. Check back in an hour, if it still hasn't changed, give up and go to bed because we'll have to wait until tomorrow.


by MNPundit on Wed Jun 07, 2006 at 12:44:47 AM EST
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Re: Nothing (none / 0)

This is what I have right now. Is this credible?

BRIAN BILBRAY - REP       20866        50.63%
FRANCINE BUSBY - DEM     17693     42.93%
W. GRIFFITH - IND     1859     4.51%
PAUL KING - LIB     797     1.93%


by LA Democrat on Wed Jun 07, 2006 at 12:46:06 AM EST
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Those are the absentees (none / 0)

As Chris said on the front page, that is why the number of precints jumped to 500 from 445. The "57" are really the absentee ballots. Apparently independants are breaking heavily for Busby.


by MNPundit on Wed Jun 07, 2006 at 12:47:39 AM EST
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Re: California Returns Thread (none / 0)

Here is a question Chris, to which I have no answer: Did they collapse precincts during the special to save some cash?  If you turn on KCRA right now you can see me blogging in the background :)


by juls on Wed Jun 07, 2006 at 12:45:05 AM EST

Re: California Returns Thread (none / 0)

Beats the crap out of me.
by Chris Bowers on Wed Jun 07, 2006 at 12:54:51 AM EST
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Re: California Returns Thread (none / 0)

Yeah me too.  That would be one reason for the difference between the precinct numbers.


by juls on Wed Jun 07, 2006 at 01:01:41 AM EST
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Soft Support for Bilbray (none / 0)

Looks like more than half of the Republicans voted for someone else in the primary race.

BUSBY, BUSBY!


by LA Democrat on Wed Jun 07, 2006 at 12:59:43 AM EST

Re: California Returns Thread (none / 0)

This is hilarious. Wizbang is already trying to declare Bilbray the winner in the race:

http://politics.wizbangblog.com/2006/06/ 07/california-district-50.php

In case they try and change it I got the screen shots here:

http://www.intoxination.net/2006/06/07/t he-right-trying-to-declare-victory-alrea dy-in-ca-50/

Jamie
http://www.intoxination.net


by hovercrafter on Wed Jun 07, 2006 at 01:01:07 AM EST

Re: California Returns Thread (none / 0)

Another interesting Republican Primary is CA-04, in which incumbent John "15%" Doolittle is pulling about 65% against his challenger, Mike Holmes, Mayor of Auburn (note that the Auburn mayor is not even directly elected -- Holmes is just a city council member).

15% Doolittle has spent $862K on this race.  Holmes has spent only $65K.

Holmes, incidentally, has not said he'll endorse Doolittle if he runs.  


by jsw on Wed Jun 07, 2006 at 01:07:14 AM EST

Re: California Returns Thread (none / 0)

According to SoS office in California, new numbers for the 50th will be in around 10:15PM Pacific time.


by LA Democrat on Wed Jun 07, 2006 at 01:09:17 AM EST

If they spent 4.5 mil.... (none / 0)

...where was the $10 million number coming from? Was that the total number of republican money from Bilbray and outside orgs?

Still though, the RNC will probably be about $100 million short when you take the US Senate into account. You get severely diminishing returns with money after a certain point.


by MNPundit on Wed Jun 07, 2006 at 01:10:32 AM EST

Re: If they spent 4.5 mil.... (none / 0)

$10 mill was supposed to be the total for the whole race, with at least $7 mill on the GOP side.  $5 mil from the RNCC and Bilbray raised $2 mil, I think.


by Mimikatz on Wed Jun 07, 2006 at 01:22:38 AM EST
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Cash spent (none / 0)

Chris,

When you talk about how much money Republicans spent defending this seat, it is really impressive how much they had to throw at this race.  However, it's equally important to see how much Busby/DCCC spent on this race, because although it'll be impossible for the Republicans to come up with $600 million to defend those 55 House seats, it'll be even more difficult for the Dems to raise that kind of money (of course, assuming equal amounts were spent, which I'm sure is not the case).  Also, it would be good to see how much was spent just for Brian Bilbray (his primary + general spending + NRCC spending).


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by Fran for Dean on Wed Jun 07, 2006 at 01:14:15 AM EST

Re: Cash spent (none / 0)

I want to say it was something like $2-2.5 million, I know the DCCC spent $1.8 of that... Take it with some grains of salt.


by MNPundit on Wed Jun 07, 2006 at 01:22:04 AM EST
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Re: Cash spent (none / 0)

I thought Busby had raised $2 million on her own (separate from DCCC).


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by Fran for Dean on Wed Jun 07, 2006 at 01:32:25 AM EST
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new numbers posted but not much (none / 0)

with 13.2% now reporting Bilbray leads by 3,042, a gain of 31 votes for Busby for almost 2% of the vote. Of course, it all depends on where it came from.


by Jersey Devil on Wed Jun 07, 2006 at 01:25:45 AM EST

20 percent in (none / 0)

Busby down by 3,500.


by tuffie on Wed Jun 07, 2006 at 01:36:27 AM EST

Re: 20 percent in (none / 0)

Now by 3,176, and Bilbray is poised to fall below 50%.  Right now he is at 50.02%.


by illinois062006 on Wed Jun 07, 2006 at 01:51:30 AM EST
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Re: 20 percent in (none / 0)

Now 2,963, and bilbray is under 50%.


by illinois062006 on Wed Jun 07, 2006 at 02:06:26 AM EST
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Re: 20 percent in (none / 0)

Now 3,300.


by illinois062006 on Wed Jun 07, 2006 at 02:22:52 AM EST
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Update/Precise Numbers (none / 0)

Now 3,278 separate Busby from Bilbray.


by illinois062006 on Wed Jun 07, 2006 at 02:41:13 AM EST
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Re: Update/Precise Numbers (none / 0)

Now 3,550.


by illinois062006 on Wed Jun 07, 2006 at 02:52:02 AM EST
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Re: Update/Precise Numbers (none / 0)

Now 3,648 votes separate Busby from bilbray.


by illinois062006 on Wed Jun 07, 2006 at 03:11:21 AM EST
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Re: Update/Precise Numbers (none / 0)

Now 4,118 votes separate Busby from Bilbray.


by illinois062006 on Wed Jun 07, 2006 at 03:23:59 AM EST
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Re: California Returns Thread (none / 0)

As for the newly arrived precincts: the Registrar consolidates precincts prior to every election (based on predictions of turnout).  As the special election was presumed to have a lower turnout, then it makes sense that there would be more consolidations in that election.  Ergo, more precincts counted in this election.  

On another note, it looks like Bilbray has got a hard 3,000 vote lead.  20% reporting, Bilbray 24786, Busby 21269.


by Jim Treglio on Wed Jun 07, 2006 at 01:36:55 AM EST

this is a runoff--right? (none / 0)

and Ifeel like this is a dumb question but I thought a runoff in a multiparty field would only have been the top 2 vote getters--Bilbray and Busby.  Why are there 2 othr candidates from 2 other parties in there as they should have been in the non partisan special.  why are they on the ballot---without them Busby could be closer.  A lot of disgusted repubs couldn't vote for a Repug but may feel better voting for a Liberal or Independent.  

So again why are they in the race at this juncture?


by debcoop on Wed Jun 07, 2006 at 01:49:41 AM EST

Re: this is a runoff--right? (none / 0)

Actually, the Independent candidate is projected to take votes away from Republicans, and with a Republican candidate in a mostly Republican district is probably good for the Democratic Candidate. Looks like things are heading back in the right direction for Busby now!


by LA Democrat on Wed Jun 07, 2006 at 01:52:06 AM EST
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Re: California Returns Thread (none / 0)

BRIAN BILBRAY - REP       28568        49.67%
FRANCINE BUSBY - DEM     25605     44.52%
W. GRIFFITH - IND     2340     4.07%
PAUL KING - LIB     998     1.74%

BUSBY CONTINUES TO CLOSE THE GAP!!!
30.2%


by LA Democrat on Wed Jun 07, 2006 at 02:05:27 AM EST

Re: California Returns Thread (none / 0)

You mean 3.2%n not 30.2% I hope!

That said she has closed the gap about 4 percentage points since absentees. I'm surprised at the ammount that Griffith is getting.


by MNPundit on Wed Jun 07, 2006 at 02:09:07 AM EST
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30.2% of returns are in n/t (none / 0)


Saxby Chambliss
by bosdcla14 on Wed Jun 07, 2006 at 02:12:34 AM EST
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Re: California Returns Thread (none / 0)

What was the margin/pattern in the 2004 race?
What are the differences?
What are different?

Inquiring minds want to know.

Could some one point me to the right place to look.


by Rational on Wed Jun 07, 2006 at 02:06:23 AM EST

Re: California Returns Thread (none / 0)

There's a link on the top of the page.


by LA Democrat on Wed Jun 07, 2006 at 02:07:13 AM EST

If only 60K have been counted.... (none / 0)

.....then we're only 10K into the actual voting, which ought to be more favorable for Busby. she should gain steam starting very soon. I like these chances.... 50/50.


by AaronE on Wed Jun 07, 2006 at 02:14:50 AM EST

Re: California Returns Thread (none / 0)

Busby has picked up 554 votes over the past 10% of total precincts (the precincts between 20% and 30% reported). If she continues to pick up 550 every 10% of precincts, she'll make up another 3,878 votes. She now trails by 2,963. So that would mean a victory for her.

Of course, we have no idea where these results are coming from, so this is all hogwash anyway. But just to keep y'all entertained...


by AdyBarkan on Wed Jun 07, 2006 at 02:16:54 AM EST

Bilbray re-expands his lead (none / 0)

to 3300 votes with 35.6% counted.  


Saxby Chambliss
by bosdcla14 on Wed Jun 07, 2006 at 02:18:16 AM EST

Re: California Returns Thread (none / 0)

YIKES! Gap widens a little.

BRIAN BILBRAY - REP       30683        49.80%
FRANCINE BUSBY - DEM     27383     44.44%
W. GRIFFITH - IND     2489     4.04%
PAUL KING - LIB     1063     1.73%

35.6% Reporting...


by LA Democrat on Wed Jun 07, 2006 at 02:19:09 AM EST

All night baby! (none / 0)

It's going to be going all night.  

And for more on California races, check out Calitics.

The Lt. Gov race will be going all night too.  With the problem in Alameda Cty, we likely won't know until late morning.

Prop 82 looks to be going down, but don't be surprised if Prop 81 makes a strong comeback.  The later voters tend to push propositions toward the liberal position.


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by utbrian on Wed Jun 07, 2006 at 02:22:28 AM EST

Re: California Returns Thread (none / 0)

BRIAN BILBRAY - REP       33468        49.59%
FRANCINE BUSBY - DEM     30190     44.74%
W. GRIFFITH - IND     2688     3.98%
PAUL KING - LIB     1139     1.69%

42.4% Reported.

I am wondering why things are going so slow!!!


by LA Democrat on Wed Jun 07, 2006 at 02:36:17 AM EST

Re: California Returns Thread (none / 0)

Slow? I think it's moving at a good solid clip now. Considering that 90 minutes ago we had nothing but absentee. It's EXTREMELY discouraging that Busby cannot close that 3000 vote gap. But it's nice that she's not getting burried and the percentages are shrinking because right now you have 63,000 votes and it's STILL the same 3,000 vote gap when it was 40,000.


by MNPundit on Wed Jun 07, 2006 at 02:40:18 AM EST
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Re: California Returns Thread (none / 0)

But we need big movement to erase that 3000+ vote gap. Though the whole district is suburban, we have to hope that the more heavily populated areas of the district will come in last and come in strong for Busby.


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by Max Fletcher on Wed Jun 07, 2006 at 02:52:02 AM EST
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Re: California Returns Thread (none / 0)

At this rate...if the numbers hold as they are, Busby will lose 48% to 46%. Unless there are a lot of Democratic counties that have not reported.

Does anyone know whether there are any such Democratic counties that need to report?


by JackBourassa on Wed Jun 07, 2006 at 02:50:49 AM EST

Re: California Returns Thread (none / 0)

   It is all in San Diego county. As far as which community is which, well I'm up in LA so I can't help you there.  
    But how 'bout that Debra Bowen in SoS race...
by Zack from the SFV on Wed Jun 07, 2006 at 03:05:34 AM EST
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Bilbray gets it up to a 3550 vote lead (none / 0)

I'm going to bed.  Good win by Tester, though.  


Saxby Chambliss
by bosdcla14 on Wed Jun 07, 2006 at 02:51:52 AM EST

Re: California Returns Thread (none / 0)

Would someone tell me what the recent polls were for Busby/Bilbray?
by piniella on Wed Jun 07, 2006 at 02:52:54 AM EST

Re: California Returns Thread (none / 0)

I don't think it's going to happen.

Bilbray will get under 50%, but Busby will lose. That's what I'm saying and now I'm heading to bed.

Hopefully I can be wrong and Busby wins.


by MNPundit on Wed Jun 07, 2006 at 02:56:52 AM EST

Wingnut land (none / 0)

The wingnuts have been solid. It seems that what this shows is that wingnut districts cannot be won but can get close. So the Nov strategy ought to be to push for wins in those districts where Dems and Indys are the majority and for tough fights in wingnut districts to drain the Repub coffers.


by ab initio on Wed Jun 07, 2006 at 03:02:23 AM EST

Oh well, at least they spent 3x the money (none / 0)

We'd need to get 55% of the vote in the remaining districts to pull off a victory.


by delmoi on Wed Jun 07, 2006 at 03:06:25 AM EST

Re: California Returns Thread (none / 0)

I stand by my earlier prediction. Which was, we lose:

Bilbray (R): 48%
Busby (D): 46%

Which is not bad considering everything. A district where we are underdogs by 20% - to lose by only 2%. A moral victory to be sure. Busby will be in a good position for November, where she'll get another shot. If these numbers hold for November (where we wont be outspent 2 to 1) I think we will retake the House and probably the Senate.

[But I hope I'm wrong and we win this thing tonight. But I seriously doubt it]


by JackBourassa on Wed Jun 07, 2006 at 03:16:48 AM EST

Re: California Returns Thread (none / 0)

But at least it will be a strong second.


by illinois062006 on Wed Jun 07, 2006 at 03:22:43 AM EST
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