Juvenile, Panty-Sniffing New York Times Thinks We Are A Nation of Juvenile Panty-Sniffers

Byron Calame, the public editor of the New York Times, defends his paper's recent masturbatory article on the Clinton's private lives as follows:
Senator Clinton's unique relationship with the former president is certain to be on many voters' minds if she pursues the presidency, and the article provided an update on where their complicated partnership stands.(...)

The 2,000-word article clearly focused on addressing the political impact of the marriage on Ms. Clinton's electoral efforts, although critics contended that it wallowed in personal gossip. I think it offered worthwhile political insights for readers like me who aren't rabid fans of politics.
Calame claims that he is not a rabid follower of politics, and that the article "[t]he focus, appropriately, was on the political calculations by the couple and their advisers." I have to admit I have a difficult time understand this. How do these two propositions square up?
  • Calame claims the article was focusing on the political calculations of the couple rather than on details of their personal lives.

  • Calame claims he isn't particularly interested in politics, but he did find this article interesting.
Two conclusions can be drawn here. Either Calame was lying when he said he did not follow politics closely, or he was not being entirely forthcoming on why he found the article interesting. I am going to go with the latter, mainly because of the first sentence I quoted, where Calame states "Senator Clinton's unique relationship with the former president is certain to be on many voters' minds." Could it be that the New York Times thought a story on the personal lives of the Clinton's was justified because they believe many voters who, like Calame, are not particularly close followers of politics would find political news more interesting if it was spiced up with a little sex gossip?

The established news media is fond of labeling the netroots as juvenile teenagers, but it strikes me in the case that they are both acting in a juvenile fashion and assuming that the nation as a whole is juvenile. We could bring you a story about the Clintons that had nothing to do with their private lives, but then neither we nor anyone else in this juvenile nation of ours would find that interesting! Politics needs sex in order to be interesting to people, even at the New York Times. If we don't write about people's personal lives, then the Heathers won't think we are worth their time.

Even this pitiful, juvenile defense doesn't hold water because, as Peter Daou notes:
I'll add one more point I made on MSNBC last Wednesday, a point that Calame conveniently ignores: where on earth are the juicy stories about John McCain and Rudy Giuliani, let alone George and Laura? Oh, sorry, the Times is too busy digging up pro-Bush quotes in Provo, Utah. My bad.
When it comes to mixing sex and politics, apparently the Clinton's are the only masturbation fantasy the established news media keeps in dirty magazines under their mattresses. If they really believed it was justified to write about sex stories in politics because that is what the country wants, then they should go ahead and give those stories to the public full-bore. However, like any hypocritical moralist on the right, they have decided that their pornography of choice is the only one the public should be allowed to consume.



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Re: Juvenile, Panty-Sniffing New York Times Thinks (none / 0)

So true, The Clinton's are the MSM's and the right wing in generals easy to sell sex scandal even 6 yrs on. With all the really sordid GOP sex scandals lately you'd think they'd run after atleast one of them? The Gannon thing was a super ripe sex story but the MSM dropped it like a hot potato.


by Blutodog on Sun Jun 04, 2006 at 05:07:48 PM EST

Re: Juvenile, Panty-Sniffing New York Times Thinks (none / 0)

Reminding me that Hillary is married to Bill makes me like the idea of a Hillary Presidency just a little bit more.

However, I really, really don't like the idea of Hillary Presidency (and Hillary as our nominee is even worse). So it hardly matters.


by delmoi on Sun Jun 04, 2006 at 07:54:11 PM EST

Clinton Relationship an Issue Because of Bill (none / 0)

I am probably the only progressive in the blogosphere that believes this, but I think the relationship with the Clintons is fair game for coverage in 2008.  And regardless of whether I think it is "fair" game, game it is certainly going to be.

Here is why.  I believe there is NO chance, I repeat NO chance that Bill will be sexually loyal to Hillary.  Maybe until (if) she is elected, but certainly not after.

Think about it. . .he could not be faithful to Hillary while he was the President of the US even though his prior indiscretions almost ruined his political career.  Does anyone really think that as he is fulfilling his duties as "first man," watching his wife in the spotlight, he will not strike out for some 25 year old big haired women? If he could not be loyal when he was President, when such loyalty was vital to his political survival, there is not way that he will be faithful when/if Hillary is President.  I mean no way at all.

One of the two or three reasons why I really oppose Hillary's election is that the whole 4 or 8 years in office will be nothing but a soap opera surrounding their relationship.  It will be all Bill's Sexcapades, all the time.  As a result, the realignment that is literally within our grasp will be gone for a generation.


Andy Katz
by Andy Katz on Sun Jun 04, 2006 at 09:37:06 PM EST

What are your opinions about... (none / 0)

Brad Pitt and Angelina Jolie?  Do you think their union will last? You seem an expert at predicting tabloid relationships, and I just wanted your opinion about this one, since you seem so certain about Bill and Hill.


Invest in nature
by NCDem on Mon Jun 05, 2006 at 11:34:03 AM EST
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Re: What are your opinions about... (none / 0)

I will when either Brad or Joline looks like they will be nominated for its presidential candidate by the Democratic Party.

I am certainly interested in your ideas on why Bill behave with more circumspection if Hillary gets elected then he did when he was president.  


Andy Katz
by Andy Katz on Mon Jun 05, 2006 at 02:58:48 PM EST
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Roots of The Double Standard (3.00 / 1)

I wrote a diary recently about the roots of the double standard in politics across a wide range of groups, "Dignity, Hierarchy and Demonization: 'Dressing Like Sluts' Edition".  It drew it's inspiration from a comment at Feministe, the key of which was:

women who have sex are bad, while men who have sex are good - and the more sex women have, the more "slutty" and bad they are, while the more sex men have, the more "manly" and good they are.
The core of my argument is this:
My argument, from here, is simple: The cultural duality of gender just illustrated is virtually universal in human societies; and the privilege that men experience from it becomes the template for virtually all other hierarchical relationships, beginning with those of group dominance that privilege one race, ethnicity, religion, or tribal group over another.  In each case, the practice of a double standard judges dominant and subdominant groups differently.  For example, the "noble lie" of the dominant group is praised, and deemed essential for the survival of civilization. OTOH, any lie whatsoever from the subordinate group--even to save a child from rape or sexual slavery--is condemned as a mortal sin.
Now this double standard ends up getting applied back to whose sex life is fair game.  But there's nothing new to this, of course.  It's always applied to women, and to subordinate groups--servants, slaves, etc.  As the trailer park son of a single mother who didn't totally turn traitor to his roots, Clinton was always obviously fair game.  And, of course, Hillary, as a woman, was too.

In short, there is nothing superficial or arbitrary about this obsession.  Which is not to excuse it for the moment.  It is, rather, to say that it is something to take very seriously--regardless of how you feel about the Clintons politically.  (I find their "third way" politics extremely reprehensible.)


by Paul Rosenberg on Mon Jun 05, 2006 at 01:07:17 AM EST

Re: Juvenile, Panty-Sniffing New York Times Thinks (none / 0)

This is a Rove hit-piece to deflect speculation circulating about GW and Laura's marital problems. Reportedly, she's spent some nights at the Mayflower hotel when normally she should be tucked in at the White House. Supposedly, Condoleeza Rice is the other "woman."
Bush has also raised the ire of Leota McConnell a former domanatrix, by backing the gay marriage ban consitutional amendment.  Ms. McConnell says she witnessed GW performing a homosexual act on Victor Ashe, current ambassador to Poland ["don't forget Poland"] and former roomate co-habitator and co-cheerleader with GW at Yale.
by not4bushwa on Mon Jun 05, 2006 at 04:47:14 PM EST


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