Dems' Ballot Lead Holds as Bush Approval Inches Up

Taking a look at the overall trend of George W. Bush's approval rating provided by PollKatz, it appears that the numbers have moved up slightly, though noticeably, in recent weeks. Two polls released this week, in fact -- the Hotline / Diageo poll and the LA Times / Bloomberg poll (both .pdf) -- show the President's numbers up to 41 percent.

But even as President Bush has regained some support from the American people (though much of the movement has come within the Republican Party), Bush's Republican allies in Congress continue to fair poorly in opinion polling. From the LAT/Bloomberg survey:

If the election for Congress was being held today, which party would you like to see win in your congressional district: the Democratic Party or the Republican Party?

Republican -- 35 percent
Democrat -- 49 percent

As you may know, this November all seats of the U.S. House of Representatives and a third of the seats in the United States Senate are up for election. After the election in November, would you like to see the Democrats take control of Congress, or would you like to see the Republicans continue to be in control of Congress?

Republicans keep control of congress -- 34 percent
Democrats in control -- 54 percent
Each party control one house of congress (vol.) -- 4 percent

There certainly are qualms within the blogosphere and certain segments of political scientists about the usefulness of generic congressional ballots. In past years, for instance, Republicans have been able to erase Democratic leads to maintain control of Congress.

While there certainly is a case to be made that Republicans are more likely to turn out on election day, negating even moderate Democratic leads in generic congressional ballots, at no previous point in recent memory has any party fared so well on these questions, or for so long.

Since the middle of February, only seven of 29 non-partisan polls (as recorded by Polling Report) have shown the Democrats' lead to be in the single digits, and no poll dating back to last fall (which is when the data on the site begins) shows the Republicans holding a generic congressional ballot lead. In fact, with the exception of one poll from Fabrizio, McLaughlin -- a Republican polling firm -- no poll during this entire time has shown the Democrats' lead to be below 5 percent.

The data found by the LA Times and Bloomberg, which are not dissimmilar from the numbers released by Gallup or even Pew this week, indicate that the Republicans still have their work cut out for them in the coming months -- even with the institutional biases that tend to allow the party in power to stay in power.



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Re: Dems' Ballot Lead Holds as Bush Approval Inche (none / 0)

Bu$h popularity. I'm not surprised his numbers have rebounded somewhat. He has the MSM out here cheerleading for him 24/7 and sooner or later it had to help him. The Fascist mentality of the average Repuke citizen has also come to his aide here. These folks are perfectly comfortable with a Dictator and would help Bu$hCo if he decided to simply make himself El Presidente for Life. The MSM media would frame the decision as a necessary action taken regretfully of course to save the nation from traitors in the opposition. IMO all it's going to take is one more BIG trauma to end the facade of self government in Amerikkka.  The coming chaos of a global Flu pandemic will easily fill the bill in this dept.


by Blutodog on Fri Jun 30, 2006 at 02:19:41 PM EST

You Jumped The Gun On Me (3.00 / 0)

Tomorrow's the day I was going to do my third installment comparing presidential approval, congressional approval, right track/wrong direction and generic ballot approval.

But I will say that, while I enjoy Pollkatz enormously, the best place for laser-like analysis of presidential approval ratings is Political Arithmetik, which indicated an end to Bush's decline in mid-May.  He uses a smoothing model that gets rid of a lot of noise, and also often a more sensitive model by way of comparison.  His latest post is here.

In it, he writes:

The addition of the LATimes brings my estimated approval trend to 38.98%, exactly a 5 point gain from the low of 33.98% on May 12. President Bush's approval rating fell from a 2006 high of 42.34% on January 5, losing 8.36% over 128 days, a rate of one point each 15.3 days. From May 15 to June 28 he has gained one point each 9.0 days, an impressive rate of gain.

This sharp turnaround in approval makes forecasting approval in November even more uncertain that it was before. In May we faced an unprecedented low in approval going into a midterm election. The current approval remains low, but is far from the historically unprecedented lows that seemed possible a month and a half ago. The uncertainty remains, however, as to how long this upward trend will last, and then what? Beats me, but it is going to be fun to watch.

Personally, it's my opinion that the Dems caution and outright cowardice allowed Bush to bounce back on the basis of almost nothing.  With his approval plummeting into the low 30s, the time was ripe to attack his core credibility--a strategy that could have made this sort of bounce back virtually impossible.  Instead, we have Barak Obama attacking folks like me, and pumping up the stock of religious hypocrisy.

Surprise!


by Paul Rosenberg on Fri Jun 30, 2006 at 02:23:26 PM EST

The Value of Pollkatz (3.00 / 1)

Is that you can use his main figure without doing any analysis at all. By showing 15 polls all at once he negates the need to focus on changes within any particular poll. Moreover you can instantly ID those polls that tend to set his approval high vs those who tend low. The whole thing is a validation of polling generally, the numbers vary around the mean in just the way you would suspect.
http://www.pollkatz.homestead.com/files/ graphic-approval_files/pollkatzmainGRAPH ICS_8911_image001.gif

It allows you to largely discount the POE of any particular poll, putting a ruler down the center of each trendline and you get a pretty statistical valid measure of Bush's 'real' approval. In effect you have multiplied the sample and so shrunk the POE for the collective of polls.

In the darkest days of early 2002 I would visit pollkatz and while other Kossaks were weeping and wailing about how 75% approval proved Americans were idiots and we were all doomed, I was shouting against the noise "Dudes he is bleeding support in a straight line!!" Then after the two 'Commander in Chief' spikes (the Fall of the Statue and the Capture of Saddam) I had to continue to shout "Dudes he is still bleeding support in a straight line!! And at the same rate!"

pollkatz showed in clear graphic fashion that while people will rally around the President at key moments, steady exposure to 'Popular War Time President' Bush causes his approval to drop.

This current upward trend may be a delayed reaction to the killing of Zarqawi, if so it is a pretty muted 'spike'.


PollKatz: Bush Approval in 15 polls
by Bruce Webb on Fri Jun 30, 2006 at 04:26:59 PM EST
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Blutodog's comment is typical (none / 0)

Of what people were saying in 2002. Temporary movements in single polls were taken as proof that the American people were blind and that the MSN was complicit when really what they show is that public opinion is sensitive to real time information.

The notion that 41% is some sort of 'Triumph of the Will' movement is just to ignore all the evidence of the polling over all 5 1/2 years of Bush's terms. It is just one poll and shows the signs of being an outlier.


PollKatz: Bush Approval in 15 polls
by Bruce Webb on Fri Jun 30, 2006 at 04:34:04 PM EST
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Not True, Unfortunately (none / 0)

This is why you should check out Political Arithmetik.  You'll get a much better sense of where things are going, and with what degree of confidence you can say so.  41% is not real, but 38.98%, and that really is a substantial gain in a very short time from a very low ebb.

We are faced with a very complicated situation.  The top level denial of reality makes it almost routine to reject anything like this current "bounce" narrative.  But this bounce is clearly real, just as the one late last year was.  Both of them seem to lack underlying substance, but they are real, nonetheless, and we have to come to grips with what they mean.  I repeat my contention that they could not appear--or at least could not be so strong--if the Dems actually took advantage of the significant declines that preceeded them.


by Paul Rosenberg on Fri Jun 30, 2006 at 04:43:07 PM EST
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Re: Not True, Unfortunately (none / 0)

You guys realize that a "bounce" to 41% still reflects a crappy approval rating, right?  I'm tired of seeing President Bush benefit from low expectations.  


by RickD on Sat Jul 01, 2006 at 06:21:34 AM EST
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Re: The Value of Pollkatz (none / 0)

I, too, used Pollkatz primarily, until I discovered Political Arithmetik.  They have different strengths.

For the narrow focus on where are we know and what do we know--to counter-balance the blather that accompanies any new poll--Political Arithmetik is best.  When things get questionable, he will discuss how his standard model and the more sensitive model diverge.  And he responds to comments on his blog.


by Paul Rosenberg on Fri Jun 30, 2006 at 04:36:21 PM EST
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Yeah, it's a Zarqawi spike (none / 0)

Plus, I think since they have moved on from immigration to flag burning and "cutting and running" and shit, the wingnuts are getting less burned out, and therefore giving Bush better numbers.


by Geotpf on Fri Jun 30, 2006 at 06:17:49 PM EST
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A Zarqawi spike--Why Not (none / 0)

First, it started before the killing of Zarqawi.  As Charles Franklin said on June 22 at Political Arithmetik:

There has been considerable interest in both the media and the blog world about a possible Zarqawi/trip to Iraq bounce. I think virtually all analyses have missed the mark.... None of the reporting I've seen has recognized that there is an upward trend in approval, beginning May 15, and that improvement in approval is at least as likely to be due to that trend as to the Zarqawi event.

It was Bush's immigration speech that seems to have stopped his decline, and given him a bit of breathing space--ironically, just the thing that finally really incensed his activist base.  Rightwing blogs actually started talking impeachment for a milli-second there.

Second, well, I'm going to save it for my diary tomorrow.  Let's just say that event bounces are much more dramatic, and are over much more quickly.  You are much more on-target with your comment than with the subject line.  It's a campaign sequence of things.


by Paul Rosenberg on Fri Jun 30, 2006 at 10:33:46 PM EST
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Re: Dems' Ballot Lead Holds (none / 0)

Have any of you considered that Bush really isn't at 41%? This is, after all, the only poll which shows this.

Sure he got a bit of a bounce - but in reality, all he has accomplished is getting some renegade Republicans to return. The Republicans alone make up about 38% of the population. Independents still hate the guy. So who cares if he is at 38% or 33%. As long as he doesn't rise above 44% (the number of republican and independent conservatives in America) we'll be fine.

P.S. Every poll also shows Democrats gaining against Republicans in November. We lead from 13% to 20%. Not too bad.


by JackBourassa on Fri Jun 30, 2006 at 10:50:17 PM EST

Re: Dems' Ballot Lead Holds Up (none / 0)

The Immigration explanation also explains why - despite Bush's rising numbers - Congressional Republicans continue to fall.

The reason Bush fell to 33% in the first place was because he began losing Republican support. That seems to have stopped.

But ironically, the same methods the Republican used to get back their "base," seems to be hurting them with independents - hence the continuing fall.

Look at it this way. Here are the break-down of political affiliations according to Pew:

Republicans: [total - 38%]

Enterprisers 11%
Social Conservatives 17%
Liberal Republicans 10%

Independents: [total - 20%]

Conservative Independent 6%
Moderate Independent 6%
Liberal Independent 6%
Fringe (Green/Constitution Party, etc) 2%

Democrats: [total - 42%]

Liberal Democrat 18%
Conservative Democrat 13%
Disadvantaged Democrat 11%

First, at the very least a Republican should have 38% support, anything less than that automatically means that the Republicans are jumping ship. The Immigration issue is the reason why Bush fell to 33% in the first place.

Second, if you look at those numbers a couple of things should stand out (if you have been following polls over the past several years) - if you add the Democratic vote with the Liberal independents, you get 48% (our new floor in terms of support). If you add the conservative independent vote with the Republican vote, you get 44%. 48% to 44% was the average that Kerry led Bush before the Swiftboat smears in August of 2004. The 6% in the middle are the difference makers. That's the group Kerry lost in 2004 (and could have won), thus Bush won the election: 50% to 48%.

Third, before the 1990s, the "liberal" independents voted Republican as well. That was why we always got roughly 42% of the vote (1968 - 42%, 1972 - 41%, 1980 - 41%, 1984 - 42%, 1988 - 44%, 1992 - 43%, 1994 - 44%). That's the base Democratic vote. That changed in 1996 when Clinton won 49%. In 1996 and 1998#, we won 48%. In 2000, Gore won 49%. In 2004, Kerry won 48%. Why the uptick in support? Because we added the "liberal" independent vote with the Democratic base vote.

Finally, that middle 6% (of independents) voted for Bush in 2000* and 2004. They voted for the Republicans for Congress in the 1990s. But they voted for Perot in 1992 and 1996 (thus allowing us to win the Presidency). This goes to show that this group, which is traditionally old-school Republican and not old Democratic voters coming home, began abandoning the Republicans in the 1990s. But we Democrats screwed up and failed to win them over. They went for Bush's "Compassionate Conservatism" in 2000, but began to abandon him during his first term. Again, we failed to capitalize in that election. This group now seems completely fed up with Bush, and for the first time ever are now saying that they will vote Democratic.

Now look at the newest Gallup Poll:

Democrats 54%
Republicans 38%

We're in pretty good shape for this November. My prediction is we win it by at least 10% - 12% (which is most likely), but could win by as much as 22% if we play our cards right.

If this middle 6% flip, then what we are looking at is the beginning of a Democratic political reallignment. No doubt about that.

# The Congressional elections prior to the 1990s don't really fit into this model only because there were a number of Conservative Southern Democrats that were still around as hold over from when we ruled the South. After 1994, Congressional elections began to mimic Presidential elections, which ironically enough may have actually helped us in the long run since it allows us to "nationalize" our message without too much dissent from within the party itself.

* 5 out of 6 per cent of the moderate independents did anyway.


by JackBourassa on Fri Jun 30, 2006 at 11:22:57 PM EST

Re: Dems' Ballot Lead Holds as Bush Inches up (none / 0)

Democrats are sounding like hempsters. The hempsters can show polls that the American people support the medical use of marijuana.

Although the hempsters have a clear message, they can't mobilize their constituency and get them to the polls. It's the hard count that wins elections--not polls.

On the other hand, Democrats have an identified constituency, but their message is giving an uncertain sound. Is Obama and Hillary now pandering to the religious right? Kerry did too and look where it got him.

Democrats need to give their constituency a clear message that they are the party of American values. The Democratic Party is the party of fairness and liberty and justice for all.

Democrats need to let it be known that they are the party that advocates the Jeffersonian principle that the care of human life and happiness and not their destruction is the first and only object of good government.

Democrats need to make it clear that they are the party of good government and human life and happiness.


by Hempy on Sat Jul 01, 2006 at 01:36:28 PM EST


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