Dick Morris and Pundit Omniscience Disease

On breaking blue, I pointed out that Dick Morris said the following in March:  "[Lamont] need not be taken very seriously. Lieberman is not vulnerable and a primary will only make him that much stronger (assuming Ned even gets on the ballot)."

And then yesterday we have Dick Morris stating that "Sen. Joe Lieberman (D-CT) will lose the primary and will be so crippled by the defeat and Ned Lamont (D) so empowered, that he will lose the general election as an independent."

And there's no acknowledgment of this complete reversal.  One of the stupidest parts of our political system is the pundits' inability to admit error.  This false certitude is behind the invasion of Iraq, in which Friedman and Bush have similarly arrogant attitudes of never being wrong.  It's behind the idea of the circular firing squad, which is just another way of keeping the Democratic incumbent racket going, and it's behind the way Washington DC does business.  

Redstate pointed to a blog post of mine a few days ago on North Korea in which I blamed fat pundits/Republicans for hyping the missile threat (that Defensetech ably deflates).  The blogger Pejman Yousefzadeh pointed out that there were Democrats, such as Walter Mondale and William Perry, that were also hyping it.   I should have noted, and Pejman was right to call me on this, that the problem is bipartisan.  

I've stopped thinking in partisan terms, though I am pretty much a partisan.  To me, politics is all about conflicting political machines.  The pundit/Republican class is not partisan, it's a class.  It's composed of those who do their business with the machine, the lobbyists, the candidates, the media consultants, and the donors who demand fealty to a certain pro-corporate mindset.  The reason I call it the pundit/Republican class is because it's more profitable for Republicans and pundits, but it's a class based on false certitude, fear-mongering, and elitism, and there are those who engage in this on both sides.

Dick Morris's reversal is not surprising.  His lacerating and condescending prediction in March that Lamont would go nowhere was designed to scare donors and insiders away from Lamont, and starve him of the oxygen necessary to become a real candidate.  His reversal yesterday was designed to allow Morris to maintain his personal reputation as an 'expert', and make a prediction on the next Lamont-Lieberman.  That's how these guys operate.  With false certitude.

That's what we're up against.  What Morris, and the pundits, are all about, is a delusional sense of self-confidence that shames Americans into non-participation.  You can't trust these people, but it's very hard to mistrust 'experts' when they are telling you that you can't do something.  Our culture reveres 'experts'.   I'm just not sure that there are any experts in politics.

You've just got to work for what you believe, because the idea of predictability or electability is often wrong, and it's used as a tool to keep you from working for what you believe.



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Call and revoke their pundit license (none / 0)

Some months ago, I heard Bill Kristol on some program. I called in and revoked his pundit's license.  I said that he had said hundreds of things, and every single one was wrong.

He spluttered and mumbled something about standing on his record, but he knew that he had been called.

Funny, he's still punditizing.


by dataguy on Tue Jun 27, 2006 at 10:11:19 AM EST

Re: Dick Morris and Pundit Omniscience Disease (none / 0)

you've just got to work for what you believe, because the idea of predictability or electability is often wrong, and it's used as a tool to keep you from working for what you believe.

Preach it brother.


by Alice Marshall on Tue Jun 27, 2006 at 10:24:52 AM EST

Up to a point, Lord Copper... (none / 0)

What Morris, and the pundits, are all about, is a delusional sense of self-confidence that shames Americans into non-participation.

I'd go along with the first part of that, but what's your evidence of the second?

What proportion of voters actually read op-eds? What credibility do they give them?

Ditto with the talk shows and the cable shoutfests.

For instance, Pew in June 04 (PDF) found that only 25% of Fox viewers (who naturally skew GOP) believe all or most of what they're told by the network. (There is, mark you a shocking credulity gap between GOP and Dem voters: that 25% number includes 24% of Dems to 29% of GOP. For all the other quoted news sources, Dems believed more than GOP.)

My guess - I don't know whether research has been done on this - is that cable news credibility on relatively straight news stories is a good deal higher than pundit chat.

Plus - to complete the argument, you need to assert the counterfactual that, without all these delusional pundits spewing their garbage, voters would be thrusting forth their opinions in droves who now hide their political lights under bushels.

I don't believe it.

And when you go on to say

You can't trust these people, but it's very hard to mistrust 'experts' when they are telling you that you can't do something.  Our culture reveres 'experts'.   I'm just not sure that there are any experts in politics.

I think you may be maligning the native common sense of the average American.

After all, it's part of the tradition of the Democratic Party to distrust elites telling ordinary folks what to do for their own good. On the other hand, that sentiment runs alongside a deep-seated tendency towards conformism, and a history of said ordinary folks being suckered by snake-oil salesmen or fearmongers.

The other thing to bear in mind is that, on occasion, elites may be more responsive to such delusion-inducing talk than their intellectual inferiors. The infatuation with communism during the 1930s in the US and the UK is a case in point.

The audience for the talk shows and the op-eds (especially the NYT op-eds, these days!) is, I'd suggest, disproportionately elites. The coded language, the references are commonplace to elites (or a subset of them), but gobbledegook to Joe Sixpack.

And the shock horror reactions of bloggers to the latest outrage of Matthews or Russert would leave their uninitiated fellow-citizens wondering What happened?


by skeptic06 on Tue Jun 27, 2006 at 10:30:07 AM EST

Re: Up to a point, Lord Copper... (none / 0)

My guess is that you're both partly right. I think with "ordinary folks" its the combination of arrogant partisan, self-promoting pundits; talking-point repeating campaign operatives; nasty, lousy, lying 30-sec. spots; chaotic, superficial and horse-racy, he-said/she-said news reporting that leads to a sense of political alienation and disempowerment.  

I'd sum it up as the self-reinforcing socio-pathology that is the interaction of the consultant/pundit/flack class with a television news industry.  

That interaction combines degraded journalistic values with the worst tendencies of the commercial TV entertainment industry (lowest-common denominator [read unconsciousness-inducing] content and assorted TV "production" techniques to maximize eyeballs without stimulating constructive thought [which might lead someone actually getting up from the TV and doing something else]).

So, by giving voice to a new class of interested and knowledgeable netroots activists (oops, I mean "Kos-following rabid sheep"), and creating an evolving technical and economic alternative to television and the MSM in general, and to "traditional" fundraising and organizing, the neutral Internet is enabling a fairly complete alternative system to emerge, with things like YouTube and PoliticsTV beginning to push into the "TV" space after blogs have secured a solid position in the text space.

Which brings me back (once again) to the issue of Internet policy and the value of a neutral network, and a reminder that Stevens' markup is taking place right now, with audio available (mine keeps dropping out for some reason and I'm about to give up on it) at:
http://commerce.senate.gov/live.ram
or
http://commerce.senate.gov/public/
or
http://www.capitolhearings.org/


by mitchipd on Tue Jun 27, 2006 at 11:40:26 AM EST
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Re: Dick Morris and Pundit Omniscience Disease (none / 0)

When was the last time he advised a successful campaign? When was the last time he predicted election outcomes better than someone's auto mechanic.

The media call on him & others because they know him and he'll give a "good quote". Sheer laziness, rather than promoting sage observation. We need to keep asking them to do better.


by rich on Tue Jun 27, 2006 at 10:41:00 AM EST

Re: Dick Morris and Pundit Omniscience Disease (none / 0)

Matt,
That is a very impressive post.  A clear explication of New Left participatory ideology based on an every day occurrance on TV.  I wish more blogosphere commentary reached this level.
by Jonathan Schwartz on Tue Jun 27, 2006 at 10:43:15 AM EST

This is first class thinking (none / 0)

Well done, Matt.


by Pachacutec on Tue Jun 27, 2006 at 10:55:25 AM EST

Re: Dick Morris and Pundit Skunk-Trollery (none / 0)

I say again, if we had elections with three runoffs and approval voting for the first two runoffs (not "IRV"), we could simply support the candidates we find acceptable, and not worry about having White Hat upstarts weaken the Gray Hats, and cause the election of Black Hats.

I also think we should be careful not to take the corporate metoyou apparatus seriously. Some of them provide the news, but at the end of the day, they are merely hired trolls. They are not to be taken seriously. Of course, sites like "redstate" are not serious. They are nothing but masterbation circles for neocon skunk-trolls, who have never had one serious idea or thing to say in their entire lives.

And this "morris" neocon sleazebag? Just a high-payed skunk-troll.


by blues on Tue Jun 27, 2006 at 11:03:30 AM EST

Re: Dick Morris and Pundit Omniscience Disease (none / 0)

How about him actually learning? I dislike Morris too...but don't you think it's possible he actually learned something in the months in between?

Just a thought...not a defense.


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by BigDog on Tue Jun 27, 2006 at 11:18:44 AM EST

Re: Dick Morris and Pundit Omniscience Disease (none / 0)

Let's make a deal. I start sending free tutoring to Mr, Morris, you go over to "redstate" and offer to "learn." (For God's sake don't give them an email address you don't want spammed, or personal information in your registration!)


by blues on Tue Jun 27, 2006 at 04:38:07 PM EST
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Re: Dick Morris and Pundit Omniscience Disease (none / 0)

Are you qualified to tutor Mr. Morris?

How many races have you been on paid staff? How many races have you been a central element in? Are you experienced enough to run a campaign?

Don't confuse a consultant that you emotionally don't like with one with can't learn. The way any consultant...congressional, state, city commissioner, mayoral, etc....is by making mistakes.

And the Blogs have virtually nothing to do with it. If Morris read the signs right he changed his judgement.

The value in Consultants is that they have already made many mistakes so their current candidate won't. I had an interview with Progressive Tony Trupiano on this exact subject to publish for you until I had an equipment failure. Hopefully I'll have it next week.

Consultants are not limited to the jerkish Mr, Morris. There are hundreds of dedicated and effective people that candidates need as the Candidate doesn't know as much on a specific subject as the consultant.

If you think any candidate knows as much about field operations or direct mail or polling as a good consultant on those same topics you are wrong.

And as my 'learning' at a red blog. Why would I go there? I learn by listening and reading their leadership...not their sheep.


just a red meat eatin' Democratic Dawg frontpaging at The Democratic Daily...
by BigDog on Wed Jun 28, 2006 at 04:29:42 PM EST
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Re: Dick Morris and Pundit Omniscience Disease (none / 0)

fabulous essay.

John Dewey was quoted saying, "Every great advance in science has issued from a new audacity of the imagination." it seems that the quote is equally valid when the word science is replaced with politics. unfortunately, because great advances and successes require change, and change decreases the hold of the professional politicos, it is something they must try and suppress until it is apparent they cannot succeed.

i disagree with Skeptic06 about 'ordinary people' and experts. working in the scientific and medical fields, i can attest firsthand to the remarkably unwise things that people do, against their own judgment, because they were so instructed by a less-than-qualified expert. i suspect most tradesmen have observed similar things.

i think the problem is that Skeptic is equating expert and elite, two things that do not necessarily go together. people established as experts often receive less, not more, critical evaluation, i think because we have been raised not to question our elders/betters/experts. this phenomenon has actually led one specialist (Sackett DL) to propose tongue in cheek that specialists be required to change specialties ~every 10 years to improve creativity in the medical fields and keep people questioning one another.

in medicine, we have our students to question us, to push us to improve and to see things from another angle. in politics, we have grassroots campaigns and independents. unfortunately, as Matt points out, Dems as well as the GOP have fallen so deeply under the spell of their own rhetoric and pollsters that they can apparently no longer hear the questions, saddling us instead with ridiculous monstrosities like Lieberman.

ah well, that is why we have Matt, no?


by jax on Tue Jun 27, 2006 at 11:54:39 AM EST

Re: Dick Morris and Pundit Omniscience Disease (none / 0)

Good point jax about the distinction between elites and experts.


by mitchipd on Tue Jun 27, 2006 at 12:57:10 PM EST
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We've Always Been at War With Eurasia (none / 0)

I don't think this is due to learning.  I think it's an extremely conscious decision to always appear 100% confident once your certainty reaches 51%.

Suppose there's an issue, and you think you know what the right answer is, but you just can't be sure. And let's face it, Morris had no idea in March, and he knew he didn't.

As a political (and television) matter, it plays better to simply change your mind more often, speaking every time with complete confidence as if you've always said the same thing.  To most onlookers, this (probably for psychological reasons I'm incompetent to probe) appears better than to carefully consider things, admit that various solutions each have pluses and minuses, and that sometimes you can't know the answer but you have to try what you think is best.

As a policy matter (i.e. in matters of dealing with reality as it truthfully is), your commitment to a policy should generally track your ability to be certain it is correct.

I think both pundits and Republicans have mastered the political tactic.  You can be sure that if the Iraqi government asks Bush to withdraw, he'll act as if he had always been for withdrawal.  And he'll get less flack for "being weak" than if he had said all along he was staying but might change his mind based on conditions.


by Professor Foland on Tue Jun 27, 2006 at 11:56:36 AM EST

Re: Dick Morris and Pundit Omniscience Disease (none / 0)

I admire your refocus on class differences as a basis of political faction, but it is a bit twisty and difficult to understand. If you only threw out that bit to reinforce your beef with Morris and his tribe I apologize.


by bstr on Tue Jun 27, 2006 at 01:13:23 PM EST

Bring Back Chimpy! (Brill's Content) (none / 0)

The now defunct media watchdog magazine "Brill's Content" had a regular feature in which they'd examine every prediction made by all the big Beltway pundits and then compare those predictions against reality. They'd only award points (plus or minus) for clear results -- vague, hand waving "predictions" didn't count. There was no weighting, so trivial predictions counted just as much as earth changing ones. There were some general findings:

1. "Chimpy" (the magazine's in-house pundit, a chimpanzee) not so surprisingly was about 50% correct. That made him a pretty good pundit -- somewhere in the top quartile.

2. Conservative pundits fared worse -- often much worse -- than their "liberal" counterparts. Margaret Carlson and Eleanor Clift did pretty well, for example. George Will and Fred Barnes, not so good. (In fact, I think "The Beltway Boys" with Barnes and Mort Kondracke was one of the poorest performing programs at the time.)

3. Some pundits made far more predictions than others -- there was quite a bit of variability in their prognosticating tendencies. How much punditing they did didn't seem to be correlated to, say, salaries and appearance fees.

I say, bring back Chimpy!


by BBCWatcher on Tue Jun 27, 2006 at 01:16:55 PM EST

The concept of class (none / 0)

Matt is right about the punditocracy's priority:  reinforcing its status as an elite class with condescension and pretention. Don't underestimate the "we're sitting up here with a view you don't have" expert pose.

To them, being right or wrong, contradicting themselves, etc. doesn't matter, anymore than it matters to a palm reader or carnival psychic. It's the illusion they must maintain, at all costs.


by Glenn Smith on Tue Jun 27, 2006 at 03:55:29 PM EST

Re: Dick Morris and Pundit Omniscience Disease (none / 0)

Nice post.  The punditry / party operatives / campaign consultants are so inside the beltway and into getting their slice of someone else's pocketbook, they forget that others are watching them now.

Of course, why anyone would give any credence at all to anything that Dick Morris would say is totally beyond me.


by dwahzon on Tue Jun 27, 2006 at 04:22:09 PM EST

The Dick Morris Disease (none / 0)

It's not so much that they never admit a mistake as that they are clueless as to any science of social / human / political behavior. They treat this like a chemical reaction involving nearly inert materials rather than the tumultuous activity of dynamic human beings.

A lot of people out here have sensed Joementum was vulnerable for some time and that attacking him presented a great opportunity. The issues are there, spectacularly the war, but many, many others that have been coming out as the campaign progresses. One subterranean matter not widely appreciated is how teachers across this nation have been seething about school vouchers for decades, we read about it virtually monthly in our union publications. It has been just immensely galling to watch that poseur Lieberman become the great voucher champion. That fact alone helps account for both CT teachers' unions endorsing Lamont and I bet they've been ready for this for a long time.

I remember people wringing their hands about taking on Joe not so long ago -- oh my God, we will be risking the credibility of the blogosphere. My attitude: fuck the blogosphere if it can't or won't execute a campaign like this, it's not worth anyone's time. Watching the blogs getting behind Lamont has been deeply gratifying, participating in the discussion and seeing the consensus develop to go for it.

Really a perfect storm is developing: a vulnerable and marvelously inept target candidate of high national status, a self-financing opponent, an emerging movement for power throwing in with the challenger. That's how you win battles and accumulate power -- by engaging in social struggle, prudently and intelligently, but also boldly. That is something Dick Morris will never understand.
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