The Shifting Nature of the Anti-Netroots Attack

To go along with Blogads, Pew, David Perlmutter, and the BlogPac Netroots poll, Media Metrix has new data that confirms what we have known about the netroots for some time. The netroots are middle-aged, well-to-do, and extremely high consumers of news media. From the article on the study:
While visitors to DailyKos.com do not represent the entire netroots community, the following profile provides insight into this segment of the activist community:
  • Category visitation habits among DailyKos.com visitors reveals that these internet users are perhaps more philosophical (Politics, Religion), financially savvy (Online Trading, Finance -- News/Research) and more engaged in online entertainment (Humor, Entertainment -- News, and Retail -- Music) than the average internet user.

  • DailyKos.com readers also appear to be internet news junkies, exhibiting very high tendencies to visit news sites. When looking at sites that they are more likely to frequent versus the norm, news-related sites account for eight of the top 10 such sites. For example, DailyKos.com visitors index high for visitation to the Independent News & Media (Index = 3,914) and Salon.com (Index = 3,872).

  • The Demographic snapshot of DailyKos.com readers reveals that while all adult age groups are represented, there is a very large skew toward adults 65 and older. In fact, this age group is nearly four times as likely as the norm to visit the site.

  • DailyKos.com visitors also skew toward higher income levels, with those households making at least $75,000 being 56 percent more likely to visit the site. Zuniga has noted that income is likely one area in which netroots might differ from a representative cross-section of the Democratic Party.

  • Regional skews correspond heavily to the coastal "blue state" regions. Visitors are 82 percent more likely than average to come from the Pacific region, 36 percent more likely to come from New England, and 19 percent more likely to hail from the Mid-Atlantic region.
Considering the tremendous evidence that has been compiled, there is no longer any way for the old stereotypes about netroots activists to survive. While netroots activist were once thought of as drooling, anti-social, rabid teenagers in their basements, every major study on the netroots have shown instead that they are middle-aged, extremely politically active, very well educated, intense consumers of news media, and generally from higher income brackets. That simply can no longer be disputed. Those who continue to insist otherwise simply reveal how out of touch they are with the changing media environment.

This is actually why I think the direction of attacks against the netroots have changed since Yearly Kos. As the evidence mounted that the stereotypes long used to dismiss the masses of people who participate in the progressive netroots were completely unsupported by the facts, it has become necessary for those who fear the progressive netroots to begin criticizing its leaders. With it now clear that, in terms of demographics, netroots activists are perhaps the best possible audience for any establishment media publication or political campaign to reach, the pundit class that most fears the netroots have decided that instead of insulting their best customers, they have decided that their best customers do not matter at all. For conservatives of both parties, the netroots are now thus characterized as entirely represented by just two people: Markos and Jerome. The millions of highly engaged, educated, and active progressive Americans who participate in the netroots are merely pawns in Markos and Jerome's grand plan.

As Glenn Smith noted, this is a typical response form an elite that does not understand--or like--the nature of mass, participatory democracy. As Matt noted, it also won't work, since such an absurd idea comes off as both paranoid and hilarious. As Eric Boehlert noted, the entire narrative is based on some of the shoddiest and most biased journalism you will ever witness. What I would like to note, in the fashion of former Springfield Mayor Sideshow Bob, is how irritating it is to work one's way up from lurker to mid-level leader in this movement over the course of four years only to have conspiracy theorists credit all of your contributions to the movement to two other people. I mean, come on--I even made two detailed posts back on Thursday describing how I control the Liberal Blog Advertising Network (see here and here), and the conspiracy nuts at TNR and the New York Times still want to credit that achievement to Markos and Jerome. What do I have to do to get some credit from the tin-foil hat crowd for being one of the main conspirators here?

I mean, if we are going to have an insane conspiracy about how a handful of people somehow control the progressive netroots, I want to be one of the people cited in that handful. It is probably connected to my long-standing desire to play a super-villain in a blockbuster movie, preferably one with several Dr. Evil-type laughs. This might have been my one chance to make that dream come true. Oh well. I thought I was making some progress when I was described as the minister of politics in the court of the blogosphere by Salon, and when the Philadelphia Democratic Party started a PAC apparently with the express purpose of doing battle with me and my friends, but I guess it is two steps forward, and one step back. I think my next move is to start purchasing some nice bling-bling with the MyDD logo on it. Then, I will start making netroots activists, political candidates, and staffers kiss said bling-bling before I grant them an audience with me. If I do that, then maybe Chapelle's Show will start doing Charlie Murphy--Rick James type sketches about me. I'm Chris Bowers, b**ch!



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Ouch (none / 0)

I the typical Kos reader:
philosophical, with MBA, severe news junkie.

A little young (53), but making >$75,000.

East Coast Blue area in red going purple state.


by NCJim on Mon Jun 26, 2006 at 03:09:44 PM EST

Re: The Shifting Nature of the Anti-Netroots Attac (none / 0)

I tremble.


by Matt Stoller on Mon Jun 26, 2006 at 03:33:13 PM EST

Re: The Shifting Nature of the Anti-Netroots Attac (none / 0)

"...there is no longer any way for the old stereotypes about netroots activists to survive."

Sure there is. They can just keep repeating them. It's pretty easy, actually - certainly it's easier than actually doing any reporting.

Now - is there any credible way for these stereotypes to survive? Of course not. But that's hardly to point, is it? As Digby notes repeatedly - the prevailing narratives about the Democratic Party and its leaders are about 30 years from being anything close to true or accurate, but that sure don't stop them from being the prevailing narratives.


by jkdism on Mon Jun 26, 2006 at 03:37:11 PM EST

Re: The Shifting Nature of the Anti-Netroots Attac (3.00 / 0)

Thanks for this Profile, Chris--it's very useful, and should be sent to any journalist who publishes a lazy falsehood about the netroots, or tries to suggest that you and others like Markos are tyrannical oligarchs or dictators of the net.  

The main problem is that the dominant media framework for understanding "political order" in this country is that of the corporate oligarchy.  Anything beyond that norm of "order" represents either chaos, terrorism, or something else threatening and unnameable.  The only alternative to the status quo "order" they can imagine seems to be that of a few demagogues and their blind minions.  They really seem most afraid, if not completely unable, to imagine a free-thinking and mobilized progressive democratic majority that needs no leaders to tell it what to think....

And that's what the netroots are giving them... they don't seem to be able to quite grasp this reality, because it doesn't fit their narrow frame of reference--and the closer they are to the Washington bubble, the narrower their frame of reference....


Policybusters! Einstein: "The release of atom power has changed everything except our way of thinking..."
by policybusters on Mon Jun 26, 2006 at 05:09:35 PM EST

Let's have some 'old guys'' perspective, then... (3.00 / 0)

With not too many years myself before entering the 65+ demo, I'm pleased to see that group overrepresented by a factor of 4 among Kossacks.

(And, I'm assuming, that roughly reflects their place in the lefty sphere as a whole.)

But I do wonder - aren't they underrepresented in the discussion that takes place?

The besetting problem (OK, one of them) of the lefty sphere is an almost total lack of reference to the obscenely rich (not to say, fruity) history of American politics.

As something of an aficionado of the subject myself, I do wonder at the gee-whizzery of some lefty blog comment (in relation, say, to the level of corruption of the present regime) that implies either a lack of knowledge of times past in the American polity, or (rather worse) a yen for pandering to such an ignorance amongst readers.

After all, a guy who was 70 now would have been able to vote in the striking liberal plunge-forward in the 1958 Congressional elections, and then, two years later, in the 1960 presidential elections.

All sorts of history would have been going on round about him in his early voting years - and, even if he wasn't politically aware at the time, he would have the experience to draw on when he wanted to look back.

In particular, he would have seen the Dems make the momentous decision finally to dump the South, and witnessed the consequences.

I'd wish that the older members of the lefty sphere were more forceful in offering their perspectives. (For instance, the numbers referred to the age distribution of visitors to Kos, but not to that of commenters.)

I wonder whether some may be somewhat reluctant to join the free-for-all against the Bright Young Things - especially given a differential against them in fluency in using the medium.

Hopefully, though, those born into Depression or war won't be letting a little Bowers or Stoller stand in their way...


by skeptic06 on Mon Jun 26, 2006 at 06:11:03 PM EST

Re: long-standing desire to play a super-villain (none / 0)

Perhaps you could play the villain Stilt-Man or Leapfrog in the next Daredevil movie?  Maybe the Rainbow Rider in the upcoming Flash movie?  Or the cranky Junkman if they make a movie out of Astro City?

Here is a link to help you out, How to be a successful super villain.


by msstaley on Mon Jun 26, 2006 at 07:22:39 PM EST

who is the "netroots" (none / 0)

My wife and I have an average age of 53.
Our combined income is at about the 95th percentile nationally.
I read national and international news constantly.
I give money to political candidates.
I am moderately politically active.
I am a member of no political party.

I read Kos a lot, and post there occasionally.  It's not my primary online home.

Kos is drawing heat because he's visible and he has a large, loyal readership.  A little-noted point -- Kos's site is popular not least because he's invested a lot in the technology.  It's an easy to use and enjoyable user experience.  Compare and contrast with the average Blogger site.

The idea that Kos is dictating the terms of discourse for left-leaning blogs is comical, especially coming from conservatives.  Read a random sampling of conservative blogs on any given day and you'll see the same talking points, almost verbatim, everywhere you go.  

I'm not sure what TNR's beef is but they are coming off like jerks and imbeciles.  With regards to Jerome, there may actually be a story there, but all anyone will remember is that TNR and the conservative blogs had some weird personal animus toward Kos.

Thanks -


My president is Lester Young.
by russell on Mon Jun 26, 2006 at 07:25:57 PM EST


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