"Elitist Democracy": The Attacks on Netroots and Voting Rights, Part I

Bumped - Matt

Since at least the 1960s the American political establishment has wholly accepted as it's operating system the "elitist theory democracy". Consequences include a woefully disconnected pundit class, shrugging acceptance of stolen elections and voter suppression campaigns, demoralized voters, unchallenged corporate political power, and dread of the rising netroots and the return of popular democracy.

"Elitist democracy" enables a frighteningly myopic and selfish insider class of journalists, consultants and other courtiers. The elite attend the same cocktail parties and self-congratulating media orgies like the Sunday talk shows. They thrill at their commitment to public service while maintaining an economic and political Berlin Wall between themselves and The People, the people who are supposed to be in charge in classical, popular democracy.

The netroots and renewed emphasis on popular democracy represent a serious challenge to this worldview that has dominated political life for 40 or 50 years. The anger and vindictiveness of the ruling elite toward the netroots (and the netroots' sense of outrage, revolutionary calling and urgency) is evidence that we are engaged in a conflict of deep belief, more like an era of religious Reformation than political reform. We shouldn't underestimate the source of the ruling elite's anger. We're heretical. We're telling them their forms of worship are wrong, that their god no longer exists.  

The elitist theory of democracy was so-named by Seymour Martin Lipset in 1962. It had already been championed by conservative economist Joseph Schumpeter in the 1940s. A thumbnail history of the theory goes like this.

Social and political "scientists" were struggling to justify the use of the word "science" in their academic fields. They developed the "theory of the rational actor." As rational actors, we the people could be counted on to base our political decisions upon what we rationally believed to be in our individual self-interest. Research could quantify and predict this behavior.

The problem with the rational actor model? It failed to predict outcomes in real world elections. Always. One hundred percent of the time. This was quite alarming to the academics who yearned for the status of the scientist. So, social "scientists" held fast to their rational actor model and wrote that, oh my god, the public is irrational. The problem wasn't their science, it was the people's irrational acts. So irrational, in fact, that it justified rule by a privileged elite of political entrepreneurs and professionals. The people were simply incapable of self-rule.

Of course, what was taken as irrational was nothing more than unpredictability. A complex array of emotions, cares, concerns, habits, dreams and accidental circumstances play important roles in our decision-making. In a sense, the failure of the rational actor model was confirmation of the possibility of human freedom. But it was instead interpreted as irrationalism.

The new elitist approach awarded itself the "realist" moniker. And it dovetailed beautifully with the rise of the far Right's superstructure of think tanks and noisemaking machines, which exploited the theory for their own political ends. But the theory wasn't relegated to Right Wing enclaves. Public opininon pollsters and other political practitioners, in political science programs throughout academia, were all indoctrinated with the theory of elitist democracy. The 1960s seemed to prove how irrational the people are.

The rise of media politics was the perfect top-down weapon in the elite's separation from the people. Corporate America loved it, because political professionals of all stripes became apologists for the status quo and defenders of corporate rule.

The elitist theory was helpful in the rise of celebrity culture and obsession. In a sense, elite political practice was beautifully merged with a bread-and-circuses hyper-market of distraction that was self-reinforcing all the way up, and all the way down.

As late as 2003 federal appeals court judge and prolific conservative writer Richard Posner could argue without shame that political participation by the people would distract them from their most important duty -- economic consumption.

The behaviorist yearning for human predictability was and is deeply imbedded in American culture. Humanist science fiction author Isaac Asimov, for instance, based his "Empire" series (1951, '52, '53) on hero Hari Seldon's mathematized "psychohistory" that allowed science to predict the future based on analysis of large-scale, collective human action. Foreseeing the collapse of civilization, Seldon builds a secret refuge where elites can preserve its fruits. (I've always thought Seldon an anti-hero; Asimov set out to destroy the pretensions of social science.)

Above all, it is very important to understand that the legitimation of elite rule is modeled throughout popular culture, from the worship of entertainment figures and sports heroes to political personality cults. Also, long before the elitist theory was legitimized, freethinkers and dissenters, from Emerson, Thoreau and Margaret Fuller, to William James, John Dewey, W.E.B. Dubois, and Jane Adams, recognized the nation's dominant, anti-democratic cultural habits.

Hari Seldon's elite refuge could have been imagined by Schumpeter or Leo Strauss. Ultimately, faith in and nurturing of the elite class are the justifications for tax cuts for the rich, suppressed wages, racial profiling, imprisonment as weapon of mass disenfranchisement, exportation of jobs, environmental apathy, and disinterest in open and fair elections.

Even contemporary progressive author Morris Berman who mourns "the twilight of American culture", recommends a modern version of the elite, "monastic option," modelled after the 5th Century monks who withdrew to refuge from the collapse of the Roman Empire to preserve the great works of civilization.

Recent dust-ups -- attacks on Markos Moulitsas and Jerome Armstrong, the New Republic's (and many other elitist outlets) ongoing belligerence toward bloggers -- as well as more profound and dangerous developments like Florida in 2000 and Ohio in 2004, are all consequences of the deeply held faith in elitist democracy.

Criticism of the rigged procedures of elite democracy are ridiculed as conspiracy theories. It's irresponsible, somehow, to argue that anything that subverts voter preference is undemocratic. But this can only be argued by elitists who think popular elections are little more than annoying obstacles to correct, rational, elite rule. Hence, the mad rush to end the counting of votes in Florida in 2000 and declare Bush winner. Elite democracy, not democracy, absolutely depended upon it.

The alternative, classical or popular democracy, had long been held as problematic, especially by elites. Didn't the founders choose representative democracy over direct democracy? Well, yes, but there is no contradiction between representative democracy in which an informed public regularly delegates and re-delegates decision-making, and pure popular or classical democracy. In both, the participation of an informed, even nurtured public is critical.

We will know that the return to popular democracy is at hand when one political party or another takes up the cause of Voting Rights. Democrats have been shy about that because they lost the South to racism following the passage of the 1965 Voting Rights Act. And because they, too, depend upon corporate dollars. And because the Democratic elite like what they've got. And because elite democracy is their religion. Republicans' contempt for voters is well documented, from the countless voter suppression and intimidation campaigns, felons lists, uncountable black box voting machines, mid-decade redistricting, etc.

All of these things, though, are overlooked or accepted by a current political elite who don't really value voting at all. The theory of elitist democracy expressly holds that 1) the public must be told that voting matters at the same time they are continually distracted and reminded that their individual vote really won't make much difference; 2) the actual outcome can be "ethically" manipulated so that elite decision-making is never challenged. Posner writes that if an election is so close it is hard to determine who won, then it doesn't matter who wins.

In countless ways young people, minorities, the poor and other disenfranchised are reminded that their opinions don't matter, that they are ill-informed, that their bosses know what's best. That is the cruelest suppression technique of them all.

I'll continue in a Part II with an analysis of attitudes toward voting, and a more express call for a revolution in Voting Rights, for the adopting of the right to vote as a core value of the progressive revolution.



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The Markos Mafia (none / 0)

Great stuff. I'd just like to add two things to consider:

(1) An "Elitist Democracy" is inherently contradictory because Democracy is, by definition, a system in which the political will ultimately reflects the will of The People. In Democracy, The People are the sovereign and are thus always the masters of their fate (even unto a complete surrender of their power to an elitist cabal). Even in a representative Democracy, where delegates are selected to represent the will of The People, it is still The People from which that power ultimately derives (cf., The Declaration of Independence). Therefore, an "Elitist Democracy" can never be a Democracy. It is simply "The Diving Right of Kings" with a more modern name.

(2) The elites are in a fight against the "rabble" that is nipping at the heels, most prominently represented by the political blogosphere, for just the reasons pointed out above. But the fact that they have chosen to take the fight directly to the most prominent bloggers, under the mistaken assumption that taking down a Markos or an Armstrong will weaken the blogs, is just another manifestation of their elitist philosophy. Since they believe that only the elites can be effective in achieving political change and they see blogs starting to bring about effective political change, they can only rightly conclude that the blogs must be led by its own form of elite inner circle. They have manufactured in their minds some cyber equivalent of the smoke-filled back room because that is the only model they have for understanding the world. The Markos Mafia must exist because it is the only thing that explains the growing power of the blogs without violating their own conception of the universe.


by Chris Andersen on Sun Jun 25, 2006 at 02:43:43 AM EST

Re: The Markos Mafia (none / 0)

Well said. Thanks, Chris. There belief in their own transcendental authority IS there motivation, which is why they get so emotional. As I'll develop later, we are a Reformation without a Luther. They are The Church. They are trying to invent a Luther so they can burn someone at the stake.

By the way, Luther wound up replicating and refining an elitist model that, as Max Weber and many others have pointed out, helped facilitate elite capitalism, from which Schumpeter drew his ideas of elitist democracy. We're not going to make that mistake.


by Glenn Smith on Sun Jun 25, 2006 at 12:03:03 PM EST
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Re: "Elitist Democracy" (none / 0)

I would expand on that right to vote, make it the right to vote for the party of your choice without fear that you will elect your enemies (IRV voting), making the power of the vote supreme, rather than the power of the dollar, and setting the goal of surpassing the country with the best voluntary voting rate in the world within 10 years.  That every vote should count (voter verified paper ballots!) goes without saying.


by One Hand Clapping on Sun Jun 25, 2006 at 03:05:41 AM EST

mmmm.... okay (none / 0)

Do you have any evidence for this or are you just ranting?

There may be one or two journalists who feel this way, but I don't think it's all of them. Richard Cohen is one of the worst though (In my experience)


by delmoi on Sun Jun 25, 2006 at 03:26:03 AM EST

Have You Been Following ANYTHING Having To Do With (none / 0)

The Washington Post the Last 6 Months?

Their irrational--one might even say psychopathological--hostility to the online community has long since passed over into bizarro world soap opera territory.

This is institutional and cultural behavior, not just a matter of isolated individual attitudes here and there.


by Paul Rosenberg on Sun Jun 25, 2006 at 04:22:48 AM EST
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...reading the whole peice. (3.00 / 1)

Bleh, whatever. I don't get this whole Kos worshipping. He shouldn't have asked people not to discuss a story, that's not how the real media works. Should we not talk about Karl Rove and Scooter Libby because the plamegate affair isn't finished? No, that would be absurd. And it's just as absurd to try to keep a story from circulating when it's on the other side.

To compare voter suppression and election thieving to criticizing a single person is the height of self-centered absurdity.


by delmoi on Sun Jun 25, 2006 at 03:33:02 AM EST

Kos Is Barely Mentioned (none / 0)

Are you sure you read the whole piece?


by Paul Rosenberg on Sun Jun 25, 2006 at 04:24:24 AM EST
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Multiple symptom pathology (none / 0)

It's difficult to write that the attacks on Kos and other bloggers is irrelevent -- because by writing about it one tacitly implies the relevance. But the Kos that Brooks and others talk about DOESN'T EXIST. As I say in a comment reply below, we're a Reformation without a Luther. The other side, The Church, wants to invent a Luther so they have someone to burn at the stake.

The point is that the netroots threatens the elite worldview, the same way classical, popular democracy does.

One more point. We are constantly bashed for not defending against attacks (Kerry, Gore, and on and on) and then called hero worshippers when we answer attacks. Therein we see the emptiness of the opposition.


by Glenn Smith on Sun Jun 25, 2006 at 12:10:57 PM EST
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Azimov (none / 0)

Just to point out, the series was called "Foundation", not "Empire", although the 2nd or 3rd book was called "Foundation and Empire"


by ripzaw on Sun Jun 25, 2006 at 03:37:32 AM EST

In arabic (none / 0)

The title was translated as "Al Quada".


by delmoi on Sun Jun 25, 2006 at 03:46:57 AM EST
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Re: Azimov (none / 0)

I think that the whole riff on Hari Seldon is mistaken here.  The point of the trilogy is not anti-elitist--though, I'd like it more if it were.  Bottom-up science fiction--ala Philip K. Dick, or Joss Whedon's Firefly--is much more to my liking. Seldon's mistake is merely his failure to foresee the unexpected, the unpredictable, the Mule.  It's not the general scientific systemisticity that's at fault.

And I can't say that Seldon's quest is a bad thing.  The example of preserving culture through dark ages is an inspiring one.  But the purpose of doing so is for a flowering, a time such as our own, in which enlightenment becomes as it should be, the common heritage and birthright of all.  It's this matter of purpose that makes my take on Seldon's enterprise so fundamentally at odds with the likes of Leo Strauss.


by Paul Rosenberg on Sun Jun 25, 2006 at 04:33:30 AM EST
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Re: Azimov (none / 0)

Azimov is used only to note that there are deep cultural reflections of this elite model. Plato's cave, you know. It's been with us a while, and it's repudiation requires us to consider that many LIKE it, and have it reinforced for them in many ways.

And, yea, you are probably right about old Hari. When I read the books, I couldn't help but feel that he felt he'd made a terrible, terrible mistake.


by Glenn Smith on Sun Jun 25, 2006 at 11:22:52 AM EST
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What happens (none / 0)

When the people want an elite? I mean of course, you can try to convince them and persuade them otherwise but in the meantime do they get an elite?

I ask because as you alluded to above, American culture seems to actively DESIRE an elite.


by MNPundit on Sun Jun 25, 2006 at 01:12:24 PM EST
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Looking for a savior (none / 0)

The tendency to look for someone better to come along and save them is another aspect of this that we have to struggle with. The elitists wouldn't be able to hold power were it not for a significant number of people who are willing to surrender power to them. These people subscribe to much the same philosophy as the elitists, they just have assigned themselves the role of followers instead of leaders.

But it is my firm belief that The Power is not something that anyone can give away. They can be fooled into thinking they are giving it away. They can be fooled into thinking that giving it away is a good thing. But ultimately The Power ALWAYS resides with The People, even if The People don't want it.


by Chris Andersen on Sun Jun 25, 2006 at 01:20:27 PM EST
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Desire for subservience (none / 0)

The short answer is that obedience to elite authority is not human nature, it's a constructed desire that those who want power construct. Arguably, it's much easier to construct in large, complex societies. But there's been plenty of egalitarian societies where leadership is temporarily delegated and there's no ongoing fealty.

So, the trick becomes to make sure people understand that their freedom is up to them, that their connection to the world is their's, it needn't be mediated by a High Priest or President.

One fellow who fought throughout the 19th Century for this is the Russian Alexander Herzen, who failed and wound up in exile in England. Tom Stoppard recently wrote a trilogy about him. Isaiah Berlin considered him a champion of freedom. And he's very articulate on just the point you make: what happens when the people don't want freedom.


by Glenn Smith on Sun Jun 25, 2006 at 01:24:04 PM EST
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I must disagree (none / 0)

I think that there is a natural tendency in most humans to surrender to (at least the appearance of) authority. Call it the Alpha Male phenomena. As I said in my previous comment, the elites wouldn't get anywhere if there weren't a significant portion of the populous who agrees with the underlying idea that some people should naturally be in charge and other should naturall be the ones who take orders.

We aren't just struggling with elites who have an inflated sense of their own sense of self-importance. We are also struggling with followers who believe that those elites SHOULD be their masters because "they know more than we do".

Life is a struggle, it will always be a struggle. What we have to learn is how to succeed despite the struggle and not distract ourselves with dreams of finding a way to make the struggle disappear.


by Chris Andersen on Sun Jun 25, 2006 at 01:29:30 PM EST
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Yes, and no (none / 0)

Yes to the ongoing struggle. There is no utopia. In fact, as everyone from Heraclitus to Jan Patocka to Hannah Arendt to, especially, Chantal Mouffe write,  the agonistic struggle is politics. So yes to that. A big, important yes.

But to assume a natural inclination to mundane authority is too much. Is it human nature to yearn for participation and connection in a larger transcedental universe? Probably. Is it a correlate that because of that we're wired to accept intermediate authority to provide that connection? No. 'Course, history is kinda on your side. But as the farmer noted, because the horse hasn't died doesn't mean it's not going to die.

This is one reason why the Leo Strausses of the world, like the Church before them, were at such pains to attack the idea of individual human responsibility and connection. They'd lose their jobs as authoritarian mediators otherwise. Their authoritarian theories and their actions are signs that there are possibilities in the human that have yet to emerge.

Most of the last 150 years of philosophy and now cognitive science have shown this "human nature" we speak of is, to a large degree, socially constructed -- with important neurobiological and emotional constraints.


by Glenn Smith on Sun Jun 25, 2006 at 02:25:06 PM EST
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I'd like to study the biological (none / 0)

...factor in humans regarding an elite. How does it work with chimps and the like?

Anyhow, even if we ARE predisposed to an elite in our genes, what makes us human is that we can struggle against and overcome biological imperatives under certain circumstance and conditions.


by MNPundit on Sun Jun 25, 2006 at 10:48:07 PM EST
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Re: Yes, and no (none / 0)

Human beings have natural inclinations that are often contradictory. In its own way, this natural contradictory attitude is our minds own form of checks-n-balances. We might be inclined to cede authority to an elite because they know more than we do. But we are also inclined to be resentful of people who assume a position of elitism over us. These two inclinations clash with each other and, in the wake of their conflict, some kind of compromise is met on who we should view ourselves in our culture. Sometimes one side wins out over the other and we become either complete sheep or radical revolutionaries. But many end up adopting a healthy skepticism AND appreciation for advocates of both ways of thinking (follow the elites vs. follow yourself).

Elitists don't operate in a vacuum. But then again, neither do revolutionaries.


by Chris Andersen on Mon Jun 26, 2006 at 05:54:09 AM EST
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"adopting a health skepticism (none / 0)

I'm with you on that. So are traditions of political thought and cultural criticism. Here's to Pyrro and Stanley Cavell.


by Glenn Smith on Tue Jun 27, 2006 at 03:45:22 PM EST
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Firefly (none / 0)

Thanks for mentioning Firefly. I think the themes of that show fit perfectly into this discussion. The Federation operates on the premise that The People can be made to behave. The crew of the Firefly isn't interested in becoming revolutionaries. But neither are they interested in behaving, thus the attempts by The Federation to force them to behave turns them into reluctant revolutionaries.

That description fits me perfectly. I have gotten involved in politics because I feel I have to, not because I want to. If I had my druthers I'd get away from all this crap and do something else. Which is why I have to laugh especially hard when I am accused by some of wanting to become one of the big boys.


by Chris Andersen on Sun Jun 25, 2006 at 01:16:48 PM EST
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I Hate To Get All 'Elitist' On You, But... (none / 0)

While I find this a delightful sort of mix of ideas, I've read too damn much stuff over the years to subscribe to the neat little outlines you propose--though you do note dissenters dating back to the Transcendelists, which is certainly most appropriate, and hints that you, too, have a much larger vision of your own than presented here.

To take just a few milestones (pointing different directions) I'd point out the following--which you may well be familiar with:

(1) In the 1920s, the Dewey-Lippmann debate involved a conflict of models about the role and function of the press.  Dewey championed a pragmatistm, problem-solving approach, driven by democratic debate, from the bottom up.  Lippmann championed a positivist approach, taking expert knowledge as given, describing the world as it really is, and thus setting the parameters of rational debate.  Lippmann's model prevailed, but Dewey's model seems far more sound in the long run, and foreshadowed both the underground press of the 1960s and the emergence of the blogosphere.

Both men had studied under William James, father of American Pragmatism (counting Charles Sanders Pierce as godfather).  But while Dewey continued the development of pragmatism, while Lippmann did not. (James's father was a minor figure in Transcendentalist circles, and his own work can be seen, in part, as an attempt to bring Transcendalism down to earth a bit, maintaining some of its all-encompassing spirit, but shedding its elitist otherworldly inclinations, which his father took to excess, and which rather embarrased both William James, and his brother, Henry, the novelist.)

It's worth noting that positivism has the effect of deligitimizing critical discourse generally.  It holds that science is the rational enterprise par excellance, and that everything else is either impure or downright nonsensical.

OTOH, pragmatism looks at science as a systemized perfection--in certain respects--of much more general human problem-solving.  But in the long run, it retains a view of science in context, meaning that science is not an ultimate in and of itself.  The problem-solving of science is seen to give us certain kinds of answers, but not others, and thus it teaches us about problem solving, but does not solve all our problem for us.  A need for critical discourse supercedes science.

(2) Anti-radical corporate liberals in the early Cold War developed an elitist "pluralist" interest group model of democracy.  I put pluralist in quotes because pluralism is a Jamesian pragmatist notion, which is inherently fractal in nature, though the fractal concept post-dates James.  Nonetheless, James was highly aware that pluralism pervades the universe at different levels of scale, while these "pluralists" insisted on the dominance of national actors representing and negotiating on behalf of competing interests conceived of as more or less solid blocks.  In their view, rational political action consisted of negotiations among the elite representatives of plural power blocks, while radicals were part of the irrational side of politics.

The most famous expression of this view of politics was Richard Hofstadter's essay, "The Paranoid Style In American Politics."  While occassioned in part by a very real phenomena--the paranoia-tinged McCarthyite movement, Hofstadter saw earlier movements--such as the late 1800s populists--as paranoid whom we might well regard as much saner than those they opposed.  Hostadter's (and others) equation of paranoia and irrationality with the political "fringe" was challenged by the rise of more radical critics, such as Michael Rogin, who argued that those who criticized McCarthy under the "paranoid" rubric had some of the same dynamics going on inside themselves.

(3) In 1962, SDS's "Port Huron Statement" articulated a vision of "participatory democracy" which was just as much at odds with the top-down structure of the Old Left as it was with the corporate liberal traditions of Lippmann and Hofstadter, or the conservative traditions that didn't even admit of a pluralist public sphere.  While tremendously influential in its own right, it was actually symptomatic of a widespread consciousness that had numerous independent expressions, not the least of which was the influence of Ella Baker in fostering a bottom-up, grassroots vision within the civil rights movement, one that clashed significantly with "Great Man" model of Martin Luther King.  Baker's influence was powerfully expressed in the creation of SNCC (the Student Non-violent Coordinating Committee), which in turn had a profound influence on the early radical feminist movement, which is still reflected today in ridiculously mainstream institutions such as volunteer-based breast cancer support groups.  (See, for example, Ruth Rosen's The World Split Open: How the Modern Women's Movement Changed America  for insight into this history.)

The above are just a few prominent examples that serve to show what we're living through is part of a much longer clash, which has all sorts of fascinating history behind it.

I look forward to your next installment.


by Paul Rosenberg on Sun Jun 25, 2006 at 04:16:17 AM EST

Re: your thoughtful comments (none / 0)

Smart, thoughtful, accurate observations, Paul. The Dewey/Lippmann debate is very much on point. I skip around and shorthand much in this little essay, but I left one impression that both men would jump me for:  the impression that this is all about the formal structure or procedures of democracy.

Dewey argued that the content, the things that need addressing, the policy possibilities, the crises, the matters that we're talking about, are what pull people into participation.

We have to be careful not to be simple proceduralists. I might add that Bruno Latour's recent work is also all about climbing out of Plato's cave, overcoming the elitist mediators, in science and politics, by joining the things we're talking about to the talkers. See his books, The Politics of Nature, and, Making Things Public: Atmospheres of Democracy, and his web site.

There are, as you say, so many subtleties and shadings of this history to explore -- you're distiction between Baker and King is also important -- but I am most interested right now in getting where I want to go:  which is a broadened and deepened understanding that a very few people are running away with the country, aggressively suppressing political participation of all kinds, and that they have in many instances relied upon a particular theoretical model to rationalize their behavior, a model many on our own side consciously or unconsiously embrace.


by Glenn Smith on Sun Jun 25, 2006 at 11:52:00 AM EST
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Re: your thoughtful comments (none / 0)

glenn (and paul and chris) - must thank you all for this conversation.... not just the ideas, but especially for the references.  i'm off to the book store now.


by selise on Sun Jun 25, 2006 at 02:20:11 PM EST
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Rational Political Actors (3.00 / 2)

My own knowledge of political science suggests that the public are generally very uninformed, yet quite rational actors.  People fail to understand that ignorance and irrationality are quite different.  The masses tend to vote according to time-saving heuristics whose use is quite rational.  Most people are not inclined to be policy wonks and to engage in political debate anywhere near as much as the blogosphere.  The failure on the left has been to engage these heuristics users properly, seeking instead to fit people into the roles of citizen-philosophers and complaining whenever people won't take on those roles ("Why are poor people voting against their self interest?" some on the left ask in post-election recriminations).  

This isn't to say that the left needs to be deceptive or misleading in spin, but it is reasonable to say that in recent history the Democrats have never felt like it has captured the populist heart.  I don't think that netroots does that quite as much as other people do, but it's a step in the correct direction.  

The danger that the netroots face is in making the mistake of identifying ignorance with irrationality and claiming that a greater knowledge base means that the netroots should claim an elite level of power disproportionate to their representation.  I don't like to rely on anecdotal evidence, so I am all for the netroots polling that has been announced on MyDD which can better quantify how expansive netroots are and how much growth is occurring to get a better handle on how much influence a progressive netroots elite should hold within the liberal-moderate coalition that is the Democratic Party.


Things You Don't Talk About in Polite Company: Religion, Politics, the Occasional Intersection of Both
by Anthony de Jesus on Sun Jun 25, 2006 at 06:43:46 AM EST

Absolutely! (none / 0)

This observation is 100% correct, and highly relevant.  Supporting evidence can be found, for example, in The Rational Public: Fifty Years of Trends in Americans' Policy Preferences. by Benjamin Page and Robert Shapiro, two giants of public opinion research.  They show that public opinion is generally stable over time, and that it changes primarily in response to events, moving in expectably rational ways.  But evidence for this view can be found everywhere, once you know how to look for it.

One key problem faced by the left in America is that non-voters--who tend to be lower income--come disproportionately from demographic groups that favor us, but have particularly tenuous information systems that they can reliably trust.  Their hueristics are poor, and they know it.  This is part of what makes it difficult to politically engage them.  Plus, of course, politicians know this, and send signals that reinforce the perception that their participation is not wanted.

There has been some research showing that such voters are particularly vulnerable to being turned off by negative campaigning--which is one reason that negative campaigning favors Republicans.  This makes sense, since these people have relatively little confidence in the reliability of their political information, and negative campaigning increases both their uncertainty, and their sense of the risks involved.

This ties in with a theme that Chris Bowers has returned to numerous times--the importance of lifestyle organizing.  The reason is simple: it reaches out to people in ways that are congruent with much richer hueristic frameworks in their lives.  This leads to a much stronger foundation for decision-making, a greater resistence to negative campaigning, and a greater ability to make sense of complexities should they emerge.  It forms a bridge between the normal way that wonks and non-wonks think about politics.  It doesn't necessarily turn them into wonks (though it may increase the numbers of people who become wonks).  But it does improve the quality and efficacy of their hueristics.

This also helps to strengthen and clarify the significance of framing.  One key aspect to it is that it involves connecting with folks pre-existing heuristics by speaking to them in ways that they already think--rather than trying to get them to pay attention to things they don't normally think about and think in ways they don't normally do.


by Paul Rosenberg on Sun Jun 25, 2006 at 11:33:52 AM EST
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Re: Absolutely! to your Absolutely! (none / 0)

I hope readers of this thread will focus on these last two comments, from Paul and from Anthony. Their points are incredibly important.

If I could add one thing, something I argued in my book, The Politics of Deceit:  self-esteem as a citizen is the best predictor of political participation. Sometimes called internal efficacy. (See Stoller's post on the Morin/Stewart flap below.

That self-esteem is built in people by listening to them, by acknowledging their voices as relevant and important. An auto-call and a piece of direct mail, uh, don't accomplish this.

I don't go to astrophysics conventions not because I'm afraid I'll be disagreed with, but because I fear what I say will be irrelevent. Many feel that way about politics.

Which is why Chris Bowers is right, you are right, and so are others who argue for building participation by participating in citizens'  lives.


by Glenn Smith on Sun Jun 25, 2006 at 12:24:33 PM EST
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The Netroots ARE Elite (none / 0)

...because they are open to anyone on an even level. So everyone that engages are elites together -- and you should try to get everyone to engage.


by MNPundit on Sun Jun 25, 2006 at 01:18:19 PM EST
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One person's "Elite" (none / 0)

You make a good point. I'm just speaking of a definition of "elite" that's used in traditional social science. But another way of looking at it is that individual empowerment and responsibility is, after a fashion, elite.


by Glenn Smith on Sun Jun 25, 2006 at 01:28:48 PM EST
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Muddying the water (none / 0)

I think this just makes the term "elite" weaker by saying that any form of empowerment is an introduction to the circle of the elite. I'm not interested in turning The People into The Elite. I'm interested in finding ways to convince The People that they don't need The Elite in order to survive.


by Chris Andersen on Sun Jun 25, 2006 at 01:32:28 PM EST
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Re: Muddying the water (none / 0)

Yes again. You're right, of course.


by Glenn Smith on Sun Jun 25, 2006 at 02:26:17 PM EST
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Muddying the water (none / 0)

I think this just makes the term "elite" weaker by saying that any form of empowerment is an introduction to the circle of the elite. I'm not interested in turning The People into The Elite. I'm interested in finding ways to convince The People that they don't need The Elite in order to survive.


by Chris Andersen on Sun Jun 25, 2006 at 01:31:39 PM EST

Re: Muddying the water (none / 0)

Whoops. Posted this instead of replying


by Chris Andersen on Sun Jun 25, 2006 at 01:32:52 PM EST
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