The House Points System

From The Hill:

In his latest bid to rally his Democratic colleagues to the cause of winning back the House in November, Rep. Rahm Emanuel (D-Ill.) is instituting a point system to track how much individual House Democrats engage in political work helpful to the party.

Emanuel, chairman of the Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee (DCCC), and Rep. Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.), the minority leader, were expected to announce the existence of the system at a political dinner for House Democrats last night. Emanuel has begun describing it in recent meetings with Democratically aligned groups.

The DCCC has long tracked how much money each Democrat raises for the committee and how much each contributes in quarterly dues. The new system is expected to be much broader, assigning point values to less easily quantifiable items such as whether members travel to other districts for political work, whether they hold press conferences in other districts, or whether they serve as a mentor to a challenger.

Rep. Jim Clyburn (D-S.C.) said that he had yet to hear about the program but that he felt such a system could reward Democrats who aid their colleagues but have trouble raising money because they come from poor districts.

"I cannot be successful in this caucus if I'm only judged on fundraising capabilities, no matter how much I may have to offer," he said, noting that he represents a poor district in a poor state but often travels around the country to help challengers.

It was unclear how the DCCC would use the numbers it plans to amass, but one Democratic aide suggested that the totals could be pivotal in making decisions about committee assignments and that leaders would seek to reward members with high scores.

"It's something members should be thinking about in terms of wanting to get on committees," the aide said.

Rep. Artur Davis (D-Ala.) welcomed a focus on member activity.

"Engagement certainly should be rewarded. It should be rewarded," Davis said. "It would be tragic if we lost by a few seats and there had been 10 or 15 Democrats who sat on the sidelines and simply couldn't be bothered. It has to be made clear to members that we're going to need all hands on deck."

Pelosi has made it clear to members that their loyalty to the caucus will be a key factor in making committee-assignment decisions. Last fall she threatened to remove Rep. Ed Towns (D-N.Y.) from the Energy and Commerce Committee after he missed several key budget votes.  

Fascinating.  While it's clear that loyalty and effectiveness should be rewarded, it's not clear that fundraising prowess is the best marker for loyalty and effectiveness.  This is a strike aimed at the seniority system, which allows for a certain lack of accountability among senior legislators.  Rahm Emanuel and Nancy Pelosi, regardless of their ideological disagreements, certainly share a desire to have a stronger and more unified caucus, and both believe that centralized fundraising is the key to get there.  This is a page right out of the Clinton model, which seeks to control the streams of revenue so as to increase power, enforce discipline, and cut off wayward members.

It's going to be interesting to watch this centralizing force running smack up against the decentralizing pull of the internet.  I'm sure that at least at first they'll win most, we'll win a few, we'll work together on some, etc.  Now I don't really get Pelosi; she acts like a conservative insider and votes like a progressive.  The challenge for the netroots, which is ideologically oriented against this insider's version of politics, is to develop competitive revenue streams that can build up and support a parallel infrastructure.  I'm watching these two, to see how they are setting up their incentive models.



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Just one or two points... (none / 0)

I assume this was a leak from Rahmbo, rather than some troublemaking mole.

In which case, why does it come off so half-baked?

Appreciating the help that senior reps give to their struggling juniors in neighboring districts sounds like an excellent idea.

Announcing a bureaucratic (not to say, bean-counting) system without making clear the use to which it's being put does not.

If indeed committee assignments are to be depending on the points system, the details will be understandable concern to reps. How many points will each desirable actitivity draw? If a rep goes to a neighbouring rep's district, say, does his points tally depend on how much cash he raises, or the number of people who hear his speeches, or who meet him personally, or what?

There are only a couple of hundred Dem reps. If things go swimmingly in November, there might be thirty more, tops.

Shouldn't Pelosi know her troops, the slackers and the grafters, without the need for a system inevitably either complex or unfair?

[More House Dem discipline difficulties over the lobbying bill that passed yesterday.

Pelosi read the Riot Act at the caucus meeting; an aide apparently said

There should be no reason for anyone to register a yes vote on the lobbying reform bill. If the Republicans win with Democratic votes, that is a slap in the face to the caucus.

That's one well-slapped caucus there, boy!]


by skeptic06 on Thu May 04, 2006 at 03:54:55 PM EST

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It's not an issue of the leadership needing a point system to know their caucus.  The point is to let the caucus know that there are real, tangible rewards for helping out the party in these various ways.


"Another problem we have...is that in election years we behave somewhat as primitive peoples do at the time of the full moon." --Harry Truman
by Steve M on Thu May 04, 2006 at 04:09:21 PM EST
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Interesting, indeed.

The values associated with the points do matter, of course.  I wonder if they will be leaked.  I'm all for mentoring, but then again, it all depends on the mentors, doesn't it?  Sten Hoyer?  Screw that.

Of course, I've been told by someone with knowledge of the thinking inside the DCCC that the DCCC denies it does party message control.  That, they say, is the DNC's job.  But then again, enforcing caucus unity around an agenda, whatever that agenda may be, is message control.

What matters. of course, is the agenda, and also the way it is institutionally supported.

Many of us remain (ahem!) skeptical of the degree of anti-progressive, corporate-friendly politics in the party, though it is possible to imagine an inder-ist "progressive" party agenda.  This is what you descibe, Matt, of Pelosi's style.

But is it possible to sustain a progressive politics built on an insiderist foundation?  The Clinton years, and their aftermath (cough McCurry! cough!), suggest the answer is no.

Interesting times ahead.  There was no open source progressive political movement during the Clinton years.  We in the roots have not only a commitment to progressive values, but to progressive organizational systems.

We really need to do some targeting for primaries in '08.


by Pachacutec on Thu May 04, 2006 at 04:05:49 PM EST

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An important point is being missed here.  This is NOT ABOUT FUNDRAISING - the article clearly states that leadership already knows and tracks what members give to the DCCC and fellow Dems.  

This is about taking it to the next level and rewarding members who go out and do the hard work of campaigning for fellow members in close races or challengers in GOP seats.  I, for one, think this is a good idea.  If done correctly, it can create a system based much more on merit than seniority and fundraising.  It also helps reward members whose strength may be political strategy, communications, policy or public speaking over the one who is solely a prolific fundraiser.  Take Member A and Member B, both in safe seats.  

Member A gives money to DCCC and a bunch of close races but does nothing else.

Member B also gives money but he/she also goes out and campaigns for members in tight races and lends staff to help on campaigns.  He/she identifies a like minded challenger and decides to mentor him or her.  He/she is interested in building a movement, not just raising money.

Isn't member B the one we want?  The Repubs have done stuff like this for years and it is a great way to build a party and reward hard working, younger members of the caucus.  

I worked on the Hill years ago and at the time my boss was a very junior member.  I and other members of the staff went out and worked on campaigns in Oct-Nov b/c we were in a safe Dem seat.  He got little credit for this b/c the system was based on seniority and fundraising.  Isn't this the cycle we are trying to break?  I don't know the details but on the surface this seems like a really good idea.


by John Mills on Thu May 04, 2006 at 04:43:31 PM EST

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Isn't member B the one we want?  

All other things being equal, I'd agree.

But they so rarely are.

What if, say, you're looking at the ranking member on one of the big committees, whose district is now marginal thanks to redistricting. Are you going to dump this guy off his committee just because he's had not time to earn many points, what with his committee work and his own fundraising?

Or a ten Congress incumbent, say, in a deeply red district; dumping him off his key committee will signal to his constituents that he's over the hill, he loses funding and endorsements, the GOP are in like a rat up a drainpipe.

And if the 'punishments' indicated by the points system are always waived because of factors like these - it's soon brought into disrepute.


by skeptic06 on Thu May 04, 2006 at 05:55:23 PM EST
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No.  The marginals are the members who get helped in this system.  The idea is to get the ones who are in safe seats off their butts and make them do some work to help those in marginal seats.  It is called the strong helping the weak.  

The punishment is that the ones in safe seats don't get plum committee assignments if they don't help the marginals.  Makes perfect sense to me.  You reward the ones who do the work.


by John Mills on Thu May 04, 2006 at 06:00:22 PM EST
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Here we go... (3.00 / 2)

So exactly how many points are awarded to a member of Congress who travels to other districts for political work, holds press conferences in other districts, or  serve as a mentor to a challenger... that Rahm doesn't support?

Will it be OK for the DCCC to take sides in contested primaries, but a punishable offense for members of the House to support the "wrong" candidate?

So if Democrats retake the House, does this mean that seniority isn't going to get people chair's on committees everyone says it will - like all the progressives we hear about getting chair positions?

Until we hear how points are given, this needs to have a firm eye kept on it. It strikes me as a way to make sure Reps work and support the "correct" challengers and incumbents.

Again, this may have been the way the GOP built their lockstep party unity. But do we want to follow the GOP model based on the outcome it's given our government? Winning at all costs has a cost.

I'm skeptical of the political motivations behind this.


Witty comment goes here...
by michael in chicago on Thu May 04, 2006 at 05:27:10 PM EST

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Out of all the 435 House races (well, ok, the 419 contested races) what percentage involve a "DCCC" challenger and a "netroots candidate?"  I'd say pretty small, maybe 1-2%, which suggests that this isn't really what it's all about.


by Mimikatz on Thu May 04, 2006 at 05:32:03 PM EST
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Re: Here we go... (none / 0)

Nothing to do with "netroots candidates" although that would stand out as an obvious example. But contested primaries by their very nature involve more than one candidate? If the points are awarded objectively, then no problem. If they are tied to support for DCCC supported candidates, then that's subjective, and will dampen support for candidates who don't kiss the right rings.

I hope you're right.


Witty comment goes here...
by michael in chicago on Thu May 04, 2006 at 05:37:09 PM EST
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Have you read Crashing the Gate?  I don't like the Repubs policies but there are a lot of things they have done on the political, think tank and mentoring side that are worth emulating.  Jerome and Kos did a great job of bringing it all out and it was truly eye opening.

The Dems tend to operate as islands, both as members and interest groups.  The Repubs operate as a team and it is one of the reasons they have been beating the crap out of us lately.

Granted this point idea has the potential for abuse but the concept of Dems helping elect other Dems is generally a good one.  There is no I in team.  The Dems would benefit from thinking this way more often than we do.


by John Mills on Thu May 04, 2006 at 05:47:05 PM EST
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This was why I was so puzzled by Matt's comments.

1. This isn't about money (as you said earlier), it's precisely about things OTHER than money.

2. (Practically) The only way to win a majority in politics (or to organize a group of workers, or to get a stream cleaned-up, etc.) is to be ORGANIZED. That means coordination, that means discipline, that means working together as a community to get things done. That means minimizing the tradegy of the commons.


by adamterando on Thu May 04, 2006 at 09:13:06 PM EST
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What's to get?  Pelosi IS an insider--she's the minority leader.  She is, by and large, also a  Progressive.  However, she realizes that the country is quite diverse, and her brand of progressivism, while very popular in SF, does not play well in all parts of the country.  So she makes allowances.  Above all, though, she is a partisan, and believes in party discipline.  To do that as a leader, she has to know when to demand loyalty and also when NOT to demand loyalty.  What she may be a little slow in appreciating is the netroots, particularly the part that is very vocal in its criticism of her.

And the program is not just based on fundraising, but also mentoring and campaigning in each others' districts where a member can be helpful.  It sounds very smart to me.  What I really like is that they are looking ahead to when they ARE in the majority, and that means they are beginning to think the Dems can win.  That I really like.


by Mimikatz on Thu May 04, 2006 at 05:28:48 PM EST

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Agree 100%


by John Mills on Thu May 04, 2006 at 05:34:37 PM EST
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Make that three.


...just a red meat eatin' Democratic Dawg at PolCampaign
by BigDog on Thu May 04, 2006 at 10:14:47 PM EST
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Problems such as... (none / 0)

Isn't member B the one we want?  

All other things being equal, I'd agree.

But they so rarely are.

What if, say, you're looking at the ranking member on one of the big committees, whose district is now marginal thanks to redistricting. Are you going to dump this guy off his committee just because he's had not time to earn many points, what with his committee work and his own fundraising?

Or a ten Congress incumbent, say, in a deeply red district; dumping him off his key committee will signal to his constituents that he's over the hill, he loses funding and endorsements, the GOP are in like a rat up a drainpipe.

And if the 'punishments' indicated by the points system are always waived because of factors like these - it's soon brought into disrepute.


by skeptic06 on Thu May 04, 2006 at 05:52:18 PM EST

Oops... (none / 0)

This was a reply to a comment upthread.

It makes no sense having it here - especially if you've already read it!

I've put a copy where it should be. But don't have the technology to delete this.

Bugger...


by skeptic06 on Thu May 04, 2006 at 05:57:44 PM EST
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No.  The marginals are the members who get helped in this system.  The idea is to get the ones who are in safe seats off their butts and make them do some work to help those in marginal seats.  It is called the strong helping the weak.  


by John Mills on Thu May 04, 2006 at 05:58:22 PM EST
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"The challenge for the netroots, which is ideologically oriented'  

I thought the netroots was about opening up the system and making it more democratic with a small d in order to reform the process and bring in new people.  Wasn't one of the major points of Crashing the Gate that the Dem party is too wedded to specific interest and ideological groups closing out generally progressive candidates like  Jim Langevin b/c they are wrong on one or two issues?  My experience with democratization is that it generally lessens ideological purity because it brings in people of opposing views and makes others more tolerant of them.  Maybe I am missing something.


by John Mills on Thu May 04, 2006 at 06:10:03 PM EST

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As promising as this can be, I wonder if this leak is hyperbolic.  For everyone must already know who is not working on behalf of the caucus.  I can probably list two or three names right now.

But I do have a few concerns.  How can such a rigid, corpratist model account for age, health, familial constraints and other extenuating circumstances?  How does it account for different forms of outreach, such as blog postings, radio addresses, television interviews and newspaper editorials?  How does it account for different campaign philosophies?  And how does it account for someone who may be upset with the caucus for personal and/or political reasons?  

I also wonder if this draconian attempt to measure the commitment of caucus members accounts for the unpredictable contingencies of individual campaigns.  Do members who represent larger and more rural districts always have the time to travel to other states?  What of members who already spend ten hours a week on an airplane?  What if a member is embroiled in a competitive primary?  And what if a member has to challenge an egregious advertisement that suddenly surfaced in their district?

The tone of this leak is also hyperbolic, which leads me to believe that Emanuel and Pelosi are having a difficult time controlling the caucus.  But from what I can glean from the article, this system simply cannot work.  How will they measure the competitiveness of a district?  We all know numbers do not necessarily paint a complete picture.  But more importantly, what if a member does not raise large amounts of money for ethical reasons?  And what if a member is controversial?  Should they be punished for articulating an unpopular stance?  Are we trying to purify the caucus, purging it of its more vocal elements?


by illinois062006 on Thu May 04, 2006 at 07:35:53 PM EST

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It can't, of course, be totaly fair. The point is that the current system only rewards fundraising, and is thus biased against reps who aren't already on powerful committes or who don't come from wealthy districts. The new system will reward other ways of helping out.


by dantheman on Fri May 05, 2006 at 12:51:53 AM EST
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I don't get your remarks at all! While fundraising was, and is, an unequal platform to judge effectiveness, a system in place to encourage members to help other members is to all our benefit!

If Officeholder A is helping Challenger B in another District this is a huge help to Challenger B. Money has nothing to do with it.

The blogs are constantly ranting about the centralization of power, yet in this first decentralization of power, where an Officeholder is judged by his actual help to the Party and Party Challengers, we see the same criticism as if this is all just more of the same.

This is a brilliant step forward to force the backbenchers into the fight or suffer the consequences. It also puts the great fundraisers on notice that fundraising isn't enough.

I don't know what more any of us could ask for...

I have a Candidate where we are in contact with an officeholder in adjoining district and you can be sure my next conversation with his Campaign Manager with contain some casual mention of this new system.

IF...and only IF you are interested in PRACTICAL POLITICS...this is a fine new direction.


...just a red meat eatin' Democratic Dawg at PolCampaign
by BigDog on Thu May 04, 2006 at 10:13:37 PM EST

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Agree.  This creates a system based much more on merit and the hard, on the ground political work rather than relying solely on dollars.


by John Mills on Thu May 04, 2006 at 10:53:25 PM EST
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I think the key on this is how the points system is structured. Clyburn gives the example of how a money only system automatically lifts some up and holds others down. Party loyalty could also be used in a similar fashion.

It really depends on the fairness of the structure.

Will it be used to punish Democrats who are the lone vote against war or the diminishment of civil liberties?

I'd love to see more bluedogs brought in-line but I worry that this would be used in the other direction.


The 10,000 Things
by Andrew C White on Fri May 05, 2006 at 11:01:27 AM EST

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This isn't about vote loyalty.  The leadership in both parties have tracked this stuff for years.  They know exactly where members fall on key votes.  This is about infrastructure building.

I know from your posts you are active in Kristen Gillibrand's race.  The idea is to give members an incentive to do more than write her a check.  They want members in safe seats - say downstate NY - to come up and campaign for her, send staffers to help the campaign, etc.  Some members have done this forever while others have done nothing.  The leadership never tracked or rewarded those who did the extra work to help their fellow Dems and now they are saying they will.

The devil is always in the detail with something like this but the concept is a really good one.  It is designed to get people to start thinking that we are a team and we sink or swim together.  The irony is the Dem party and progressives preach the concept of the strong helping the weaker in society all the time but our political operations have been all about operating separately.  The idea, as I see it, is to practice what we preach.


by John Mills on Fri May 05, 2006 at 11:57:44 AM EST
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