Dem Turnout Way Up?

Over at Hit and Run, Dave Weigel looks at turnout figures from last night's primaries in Ohio and Indiana. He has some information that should be encouraging to anyone looking for a big Democratic year:
The most dramatic race was in the rural 6th district, which borders on Ohio West Virginia and voted basically 50-50 Bush-Kerry. (...)The GOP House committee bought ads attacking one of Wilson's lame opponents, who was on the ballot, thinking they could build up his name recognition and get a critical mass of voters to pull his lever instead of writing in Wilson's name. But Wilson pulled through with 43,692 votes out of a total 65,797. The Republicans' preferred candidate won his primary with a lousy 18,356 votes out of 37,596. Again - this is a district where Bush and Kerry ran even. Where'd the Republicans go?

Indiana looked about the same for both parties. The most surprising race there was probably in the 8th district in Evansville and Terra Haute, a swing seat that voted 62-38 for Bush in 2004. Neither party's candidate had an opponent, and incumbent Republican John Hostettler (one of six GOP votes against the Iraq War in 2003) got 27,366 votes. But Democrat Brad Ellsworth got 43,213 votes.
Wow--those are very encouraging numbers, and support the data from Gallup yesterday that Democratic voters are much more enthusiastic about voting this year than are Republicans. Maybe our turnout problems are not so bad. The numbers in the OH-06 further emphasize what I was saying earlier today: competitive, contested primaries work. They force the cream to rise to the top, and improve the Democratic operation in the area with the contested primary. There is no way that Democratic turnout would have been so high in that district unless Charlie Wilson had been forced to get his act together and build a real ground game and grassroots operation.

These are only two states, but maybe our turnout situation actually look pretty good for 2006. I think we may have been sucked into a bit of "the sky is falling" type analysis because of faulty comparisons. Either we were comparing Democratic turnout to previous years (as we did in Illinois and Texas), or we were comparing Democratic turnout to national partisan indexes instead of the more appropriate local indexes (the C-50 special election). All of that was comparing apples to oranges. The real "apples to apples" comparison should always have been to check only contested Democratic primaries versus contested Republican primaries or uncontested Democratic primaries versus uncontested Republican primaries in the same district, and then compare Democratic turnout relative to Republican turnout in those districts relative to expected turnout. Only then can you eliminate all of the variables. In both OH-06 and IN-08, we have just that sort of apples to apples comparison, and it looks very, very good for Democrats.

I am not ready to start planning the transition to power, like some Dems, but I certainly like the way things are going right now. We are still six months from Election Day, but at least for right now, the national wave and Indycrat realignment certainly seems to be a possibility.



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I find the 37k turnout in a contested GOP primary in one of the half dozen most targetted districts in the country absolutely stunning. 37k! I've never seen a turnout quite that bad, at least in a contested district. To get your whole party beaten by a freakin' write-in Democrat is almost mind-boggling. Makes me think that 2004's 50/50 result might have been more about Diebold than the district's voters ...


by ColoDem on Wed May 03, 2006 at 01:15:33 PM EST

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The sky will fall and rise back up for us several times before the November election.

We just have to keep attacking and never let up.


by Bush Bites on Wed May 03, 2006 at 01:33:57 PM EST

Boy, Do I Hope This Continues! (none / 0)

But even if it does, I remain concerned.  This is almost certainly a base-turnout phenomena.  But the really lasting impact of a realigning election--which I ferverently hope this will be--is the mass movement of folks from one party to another. (With our current large number of independents, this would mostly be a virtual shift, with Reps turning independent, while independents turn Dem.)

And while there's certainly some of that going on, there's probably not nearly as much as there should be, if you compare the generic congressional ballot to other indicators of how bad people think things are going.  That's what I did in my diary today, "Dem's Congressional Lead Lags Indicators".

I hope to hell that things change by November, but as they stand right now, it still looks like a major opportunity is not being capitalized on.  After the past 6 years especially (not to downplay the Gingrich Revolution/government shutdown/Clinton Impeachment years), the idea of voting Republican should become as unthinkable as it was after 1932.


by Paul Rosenberg on Wed May 03, 2006 at 02:21:44 PM EST

IN-08 (none / 0)

The results from IN-08 aren't as exciting as it would initially appear.  Here are the results from 2002: (Link)

Hartke & Graf (Democrats): 58,005
Hostettler (GOP): 29,673

Hostettler is known for his fall GOTV operation - Ellsworth is a strong candidate, but I don't think this election gives us reason for additional optimism.


by CA Pol Junkie on Wed May 03, 2006 at 02:26:01 PM EST

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The Indiana turnout was pathetic.  Indiana has a gate crashing primary.  Voters don't register a party affiliation.  Voters show up at the polls and request the ballot they desire.  If there is a hot contested local race, that can drive turnout.  One can guess the meaning of an election, but good analysis requires careful study of the votes.

So if you look at a district like IN 4 with incumbant Steve Buyer,

http://www.in.gov/serv/sos_primary06?pag e=district&countyID=79&partyID=- 1&officeID=5&districtID=4&di strictshortviewID=4&candidate=

Buyer gets 58% of all 60,121 votes cast (returns not final).  You can compare that to his 04 percentage to see gains or slippage.

You can also see the crossover effect.  In Tippecanone County, with one hotly contested prosecuter's race (the 16 y incumbant lost) and no contested local Democratic contests, a lot of voters crossed over.  The average Campbell vote of 28 % was exceeded by over 2100 votes.  Most of those voters are really Dems that picked up a GOP ballot in order to have a voice in the prosecutor race or other contested GOP primary races.  I did this ONCE myself but the right wing fundie won anyway so I swore NEVER to pick up a GOP ballot ever again.

The following factors are responsible for the abysmally low turnout:

1.  04 was a complete FUBAR with some people waiting 4 h in the rain to vote.  The experience was so unpleasant that fewer people returned this year.

2.  Lack of contested races.  No reason to go vote.

3.  The new voter idea law.  It sends the message: "We don't want you to vote."

4.  Voter disillusionment.  Independents are totally fed up with the politicians and have no motivation to vote in either party primary.  Republicans are demoralized and stayed home.


by bakho on Wed May 03, 2006 at 02:34:23 PM EST

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Should read Voter ID law.

as in Republican tactic to disenfranchise those more likely to vote for Democrats.

Must show an IN driver's license.  Other than getting into a bar, does anyone ever use a driver's license for anything?


by bakho on Wed May 03, 2006 at 02:37:41 PM EST
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This is good news, but I still think that we must invest as much time and money into get-out-the-vote efforts as is feasible without compromising the rest of the campaign. We need to turn this momentum from something good into something extraordinary.


by Covin on Wed May 03, 2006 at 02:57:22 PM EST

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There was this guy, Chris Bowers, and he was discussing the turnout in the Indiana Primary election. He was a liberal and he was optimistic about the Democrats' chances in Norvember and just about everybody else was a liberal and it was him against the whole class.


by spirowasright on Wed May 03, 2006 at 03:08:49 PM EST

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Not sure about previous elections but in NC-11 Democrats turned out 39,110 in primary (Shuler 29,193) compared to 33,812 for Republicans (Taylor 27,171).


by knoxvoljj on Wed May 03, 2006 at 03:09:14 PM EST

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OK If you look at where the big differences are, start with Vigo County.  It has a contested judge race, the only contested race.   So the GOP is crashing the primary.  That accounts for about 10,000 votes.

http://www.in.gov/serv/sos_primary06?pag e=county&countyID=84&partyID=-1& amp;officeID=5&districtID=8&dist rictshortviewID=8&candidate=

Another 2000 votes is in Posey Co  where the state Senate Race was contested by 3 Dems with GOP uncontested.

Gibson Co, is the same deal as Posey.

Daviess Co Breaks GOP by 1800 votes and there are no contested elections.

People need a reason to vote.  Contested primaries attract voters.  Uncontested primaries?  Might as well stay home or crash the other party.


by bakho on Wed May 03, 2006 at 05:57:39 PM EST

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BTW-  These open primaries make it GOTV efforts in the Fall that much more difficult because it can be hard to identify Dem voters.


by bakho on Wed May 03, 2006 at 05:59:21 PM EST

Ohio in 2006 (none / 0)

The Primary Election results sure are a good sign for Ohio Democrats. We have a great chance to boot out two very conservative and partisan Republicans: Bob Ney and Steve Chabot.

Zach Space is taking on Ney now, and John Cranley is taking on Chabot.

To hear about all the amazing connections between Chabot and Abramoff, and Chabot and ultra conservatism, check out

http://ohiosfirst.blogspot.com/


by alexwinter2006 on Wed May 03, 2006 at 07:01:57 PM EST


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