Memo to Senate Democrats: Get Meaner

Asking William Jefferson to step down from the Ways and Means Committee, which is a very powerful post, is something a leader does.  Walking into the hornet's nest that is the CBC, as Pelosi did, will cause her problems, but she believes that it is worth the sacrifice.  The Senate side, not so much.  I hope that Harry Reid, a brave man and a partisan, learns a thing or two from her about whipping a caucus, because what Glenn writes is simply spot-on.

In other words, there are serious questions about whether Gen. Hayden will comply with the law and whether he believes in the rule of law, so perhaps it's not a good idea to install him as CIA Director. Is there some reason Democrats were afraid to make that clear, straightforward, critically important point?

Yet again, Senate Democrats show that they have no more concern for the rule of law and for the excesses of this administration than Senate Republicans do. Due to their really pitiful passivity, they are every bit as much to blame for the excesses and abuses of the administration as the compliant Republicans are.

I've written before that, at least to me, the principal if not exclusive benefit of the Democrats taking over one or both of the Congressional houses in November is that it will impose some checks and limitations on the behavior of the administration and, specifically, will finally result in meaningful investigations into what has happened in our country and to our government over the last five years. But I have serious doubts about whether that would really happen.

After November, 2006, the presidential elections are not far away. The same paralyzing, stagnating, fatally passive Democratic voices who always counsel against standing up to the administration aren't going anywhere...

Is there any doubt that the likes of Senators Feinstein, Rockefeller, Levin, etc. are going to follow that thinking, as they always do? I don't see how that can be doubted. I think Congressional Democrats will be more cautious and passive, not less so, if they take over one of the Congressional houses in 2006. People who operate from a place of fear and excess caution become even more timid and fearful when they have something to lose. The Democratic Congressional Chairs are going to be desperate not to lose that newfound power, and they will be very, very vulnerable to the whiny whispers of the consultant class that they should not spend their time and energy investigating this administration or vigorously opposing them on national security matters.

John Cole is absolutely right that Democrats have managed to change virtually nothing as a result of the collapse of the Bush presidency. That's because they think the same and behave the same as they did when they were getting pushed around by Bush as a highly popular "war president." As a result, there is no reason to believe they will be any better than they are now (and have been for the past four years) if and when they take over one or both Congressional Houses. One could make a compelling case that they will be even worse.

I don't agree entirely with Glenn's sweeping generalization of Democrats, but he's right about the Senate.  The House can be governed to oppose the President, and I believe that Pelosi is serious about making that happen.  The Senate doesn't have the will and never has.

On the other hand, I'm hearing bad things about goings on in the House with regards to the net neutrality bill in the Judiciary Committee.  Pelosi's been very helpful in fighting for internet freedom there, and all of us on the blogs are going to need to step up later today on the issue.

Get ready for some people-powered politics.



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Re: Memo to Senate Democrats: Get Meaner (none / 0)

That's the wildly popular Reid and the pariah Pelosi, right?  She's the one who doesn't know how to lead and he's the great paragon?  Oh sorry--that was the Daily Kos readership.


by Mimikatz on Wed May 24, 2006 at 05:11:20 PM EST

Re: Memo to Senate Democrats: Get Meaner (none / 0)

I've been thinking about this a lot, actually.  I think the DKos straw poll respondents have been making a mistake in analyzing those two.  I really like Harry Reid's public personna, and I don't much like Nancy Pelosi's.  It is an unfortunate reality that this is affecting people's opinions of their relative abilities as leaders.

Pelosi has been a far better leader than people are giving her credit for; since Bush's popularity has taken a dive, in fact, she has been downright the jexcellent.  On the other hand, I think Reid has been decent, but by no means has he been as good as his House counterpart.  I think he should be cut a bit of slack as Senators are far more independent of the caucus than Congressmen are.  This makes it harder to herd the cats, to borrow from the former Republican Senate leader.  Nonetheless, a better performance was definitely possible, especially on Alito.

The difference is style: Pelosi is rounding up her caucus; Reid is a spokesman for his.  It seems to me that the former is a better way to play caucus leader.


by jhupp on Wed May 24, 2006 at 08:00:26 PM EST
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Re: Memo to Senate Democrats: Get Meaner (none / 0)

Small wonder Senate Dems are about as passive about the direction of the country as the Senate GOP.

Look at the average net worth of a Senate Dem.

Enough said.


by redstar67 on Wed May 24, 2006 at 05:15:34 PM EST

Re: Memo to Senate Democrats: Get Meaner (none / 0)

I'm sure Rockefeller and Kerry bump that up a bit.

But something doesn't make sense: if you're independently wealthy, you can kick ass all over town and not have to worry about the ramifications in your job.

There's something else that's lacking in these people, and money has nothing to do with it.


by zappatero on Wed May 24, 2006 at 06:13:06 PM EST
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Re: Memo to Senate Democrats: Get Meaner (3.00 / 1)

Agreed! Pelosi and Hoyer have been quite good at whipping House Dems. We've had tremendous party discipline the last couple of sessions. Reid is having problems, but let's face it, the Senate is always harder to whip. Harry's okay, but he's got to impose more discipline, especially in the committees.

Also, I'm fine with a Speaker Pelosi, but don't put her on TV. She sucks at it.


"There is nothing wrong with America that cannot be cured by what is right with America"- Bill Clinton
by bluenc on Wed May 24, 2006 at 05:45:42 PM EST

Re: Memo to Senate Democrats: Get Meaner (3.00 / 1)

I like Pelosi and was glad to see her on Matt's second tier list this weekend.  She is a bit of a machine pol but she is very progressive in her views and believes in party discipline which is important in the House.  She could end up being a Speaker similar to Tip O'Neill who was liberal but also had the makings of machine pol.  That wouldn't be too bad since O'Neill accomplished a lot of good in his day.


by John Mills on Wed May 24, 2006 at 05:48:30 PM EST

call charlie rangel (3.00 / 1)

This is a post in toto from TAPPED, the weblog of the American Prospect,  I agree with Michael Tomaskey, the present editor of the Prospect.

This is important enough  to try to get Charlie Rangel on board. He's the Dean of the House. After all he's been waiting for more than a decade to be chair of Ways and Means. He needs to understand that this lets the Republicans charge that corruption is bipartisan (and it also subliminally raises the race issue).Also the details are so inherently colorful and it's eating up so much news time that it's pushing out news of Republican corruption. The Dems have to deal with this as expeditiously as possible to wash their hands of him or he will undermine their push to tar the Republicans only with corruption.  Right now Kate O'Beirne is waxing eloquent on the corruption in Congress.  We don't want Kate O'Beirne to be happy.

TOMASKEY

"IT JUST ME? Or does anyone else suspect that maybe half the reason Hastert et al. are so in heat over the Jefferson raid has nothing to do separation of powers and something to do with the fact that if they defend Jefferson and help him stay in the House, the corruption issue doesn't cut so cleanly for Democrats?

I'm fairly certain that Pelosi and other leaders want him out. But they're afraid to stand up to Charlie Rangel. As the senior/most influential African American House member, Charlie is the one who can cut Jefferson loose, and he should face public pressure to do so. If I still had my old New York magazine column, I know what I'd be writing this week."

--Michael Tomasky

Posted by Alec Oveis on May 24, 2006 11:58 AM

http://www.prospect.org/weblog/2006/05/p ost_446.html#comments


by debcoop on Wed May 24, 2006 at 05:51:53 PM EST

Good luck with that! (3.00 / 1)

According to a Roll Call piece (extract), Rangel is one of several CBC-ers who've given to Jefferson's legal defense fund!

If he was planning to offer his good offices to settle the dispute between Pelosi and Jefferson, that would not exactly been a demonstration of impartiality!

On the contrary, the only plausible construction I can find for the donation is that it was a deliberate defiance of the Man. (Or, in this case, Woman.) Perhaps in anticipation of Pelosi having to come crawling to him to ease Jefferson out - and done to make the crawling even more humiliating.

The worst: if the scenario plays out as suggested - Pelosi seeking Rangel's help to persuade Jefferson to resign from Ways and Means - it implies that the CBC is a party within a party; and that relations on serious matters between the Minority Leader and CBC members are channeled through CBC honchos.

(A sort of Lord Lugard Indirect Rule for the 21st century.)

I'm fast concluding that I've gravely underestimated Jefferson (as compared with Mollohan) as a danger to Dem success in the November elections...


by skeptic06 on Wed May 24, 2006 at 06:23:09 PM EST
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Re: Good luck with that! (none / 0)

Jefferson should temporarily step aside from his seat on Ways and Means until the trial is over.  If he is found not guilty he should have the right to reclaim his seat.  

It is not unheard of to see members of Congress found not guilty on charges.  Both Congressman Floyd Flake (D-NY) and Joe McDade (R-PA) were indicted for abusing their offices in the 1990s and were found not guilty in court.  Jefferson is innocent until proven guilty in a court of law and is entitled to the same rights everyone else get.


by John Mills on Wed May 24, 2006 at 08:47:01 PM EST
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The ticklish thing is that, by asking Jefferson to step down from Ways and Means, and being refused, Pelosi has rather put her authority on the line.

She can hardly now say, Well, all right, you can stay. She has to shift him.

The suspicion will be that those at the CBC who might have some sway over him will be approached and will demand a price for their services.

Now, MCs roll logs. But the image of Pelosi going cap in hand to the likes of Rangel (apparently already a Jefferson benefactor) is not a happy one.

Then consider, if Jefferson steps down, who replaces him? In particular, is that seat color-coded? Or, put another way, in the gift of CBC honchos?

(I'm unclear what the rules are - the Caucus rules aren't online anywhere that I found when I looked - but I assume that there is some sort of pecking order in allocating reps to committee vacancies. Any variation from the rules would raise suspicions of a deal.)

And, does Jefferson get some alternative committee assignment? And, what happens if he's acquitted - can he really slip back into W&M? If he can, what happens to the stand-in?

I can't believe that Pelosi would have sent that letter to Jefferson without having gone through these permutations (and others I haven't thought of!) with her staff to the nth degree. But, even so...


by skeptic06 on Wed May 24, 2006 at 09:45:56 PM EST
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Jefferson flipped off Pelosi (none / 0)

Apparently.

As he might be expected to do, given that he says he's done nothing wrong, and she has no power to get rid of him without a vote of the House.

She must have known he'd refuse; so what shots has she in her locker to reply to his refusal?

Can she get him kicked out of the Caucus, if she has the votes? How many votes would she have? What damage would it do to Jefferson? (Would he stop getting DCCC support?)

And - this is the day on which the Hill ran a piece saying

Pelosi (D-Calif.) and the CBC have organized a small "ad hoc working group" of CBC members to address the caucus's concerns with DCCC Chairman Rahm Emanuel (Ill.), the chief architect of the Democrats' efforts to take control of the House.
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So there's Rahmbo on top of Alcee Hastings and Jefferson.

Whereas - Reid may not be doing anything much, but at least he hasn't got the makings of a race war on his hands!


by skeptic06 on Wed May 24, 2006 at 05:59:24 PM EST

Go Over to Kos' Place (none / 0)

He just tore her a new one for signing up with Hastert to protest the FBI raid on Jefferson's office, and then finds out Hastert is crying foul because he's the subject of an FBI investigation his damned self.

There are demands for Pelosi's resignation, and total disgust at the capitulation of the House.


by Political Junkie on Wed May 24, 2006 at 10:26:09 PM EST


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