Darfur Genocide Lays Bare the Bush Freedom Nonsense

I went to the rally against genocide today sponsored by Save Darfur.  My favorite speaker was Tom Lantos, though I would be remiss if I didn't mention Barack Obama, George Clooney, Nancy Pelosi, and of course, Manute Bol.  One sign I saw struck me as particularly compelling.  It said "Out of Iraq, Into Darfur!"  From a humanitarian perspective, that's a pretty tough equation to argue against.  In Darfur, you have the most extreme form of terrorism imaginable - the elimination of a people wholesale.  And Bush hasn't really done much of anything about it, despite a bipartisan consensus in Congress.

This is shameful.  We can stop this genocide, and we choose not to.



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Re: Darfur Genocide Lays Bare the Bush Freedom Non (none / 0)

Forget for a second that Bush/Cheney/Rice/Rumsfeld would be implementing any plan of action on the Darfur situation. Assuming a competent administration, but also that American forces are still substantially committed in Iraq and Afghanistan, what are the viable options in front of us as you see them?


by bi66er on Mon May 01, 2006 at 04:28:45 AM EST

Re: Darfur Genocide Lays Bare the Bush Freedom Non (3.00 / 1)

Funding the African Union, encouraging international allies with American air cover, increasing food suppy to the region, and putting in a small American contingent of troops.


by Matt Stoller on Mon May 01, 2006 at 09:57:51 AM EST
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Options (none / 0)

I've thought about this a bit. Lets separate variables. The Janjaweed are the trouble; they operate with impunity.

If you look carefully you'll see their pulling most of their munitions from the black market, typical ak47 type armament. They've got some chinese munitions as well. Their momentum comes from how many different portable supplies they can roll out of each raid. They always salt the earth when they're gone, burn everything in sight.

Their transportation is largely by camel, they ride in hard to areas that are typically not on any arterial roads.  

Most of these villagers support by low grade agriculture, foraging and hunting in about a seven mile radius. In general, about 7 miles is what one man will walk in a day.

Given that, the raids are typically about 14 miles apart.

The geography if the land is fairly flat.

The cheapest solution in my book is this:
have the government subsidize cellular tower buildout in the hardest hit areas -
put coverage patterns into the seven mile zone where the hunters are located.  Two speed dials each hunter: their village, and airstrike.

A camel moves about 12 miles an hour, so to cover the last ground out of the forage zone, if a hunter spies the janjaweed charging in, would provide a 30 minute scramble.  Even a rusty f 14 tomcat could cover that ground with room to spare and strafe the entire raiding party at mile 3.

In the meantime, with an alert to the village, they lift up all their movable supplies and lockdown the water and other things the raiding party will need to take away to sustain.
And set booby traps.

They will be safe as they flee into the forest, the raiding party will not risk dispersing through  the forest to hunt them down.

Africa right now is experiencing a cellular boom. People pay for cellphones. Eventually the government will make their money back.

America can help by lending cellular expertise, and tech to get them going + it would be a simple appeal to lift tariff on export to darfur region
and with their oil money their credit rating should be decent enough.

Option 2: Hunt down the janjaweed. they leave a trail of ghamu kadda all the way across the desert. Track them with helicopters and gatling gun them in their tracks . Night vision and muffled apaches would work, when the camels spook it will make a star in the desert where the camps are - then drop a special forces out there to figure out if they are janjaweed. Once you get a lock on them give them a warning to surrender then just gatling gun them right there in the desert if they don't play ball.  

Option 3: Arm the villagers and train them as a militia

All of this is centered around that christian acronym of trying to figure out what the Janjaweed are doing, or... as I wear around my wrist..

WW T JJW D?


by turnerbroadcasting on Mon May 01, 2006 at 07:58:43 AM EST

Think you'll find it was already bare! (none / 0)

bi66er has it.

I'd suggest that statements like

We can stop this genocide, and we choose not to.

are what historically have got liberals a name for being airy-fairy merchants of pie-in-the-sky.

The plain fact is that, during the Cold War, there was a bright-line rule on the use of military force, topped off by the UN Charter.

Then, in 1999, genial Bill Clinton said We don't need no stinking Security Council and decided to bomb the crap out of Serbia.

At the time, the onanistic frenzy amongst lefties was wonderful to behold.

Coupla years later, along comes Bush - and he says Fuck the UN too.

Now, events may just have persuaded some in the regime that the old rules on use of force were a better deal than Bush's global Wild West.

Even if military intervention in the Sudan were possible - which it isn't - the last thing we want is confirmation that the UN system is finally dead, and Bushlaw rules.

Quick question: if the US is morally obliged to intervene militarily in Sudan, how come that same morality didn't apply to the Congo?

In whose recent wars the death toll has run to 3 to 4 million.

Could it be that mean considerations of practicality prevented it?

And those wars started during Clinton's presidency...


by skeptic06 on Mon May 01, 2006 at 08:14:58 AM EST

Re: Think you'll find it was already bare! (none / 0)

While the UN didn't sanction the action in the Balkans, it was done through NATO and there was international legitimacy for the prevention of genocide.  I agree with you that the isolationist left and right embarrassed themselves during the episode, but that is not all liberals.

Anyway, there is a genocide going on, it wouldn't take much to stop it.  We could fund the African Union, we could encourage the deployment of 15,000 international troops, there are many options we have.  This is not a conventional army, this is a group of thugs with guns.  

We can stop it and we choose not to.


by Matt Stoller on Mon May 01, 2006 at 09:56:45 AM EST
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Re: Think you'll find it was already bare! (none / 0)

I'd state straight off that I know nothing worth boasting about on the subject of Darfur.

I'm working from first principles here, but I'm asking questions, not supplying answers.

My first question would be, What willingness has the African Union showed to be Uncle Sam's speartip in Sudan? We've seen in the Congo that African nations are more than ready to rumble when there's a few bucks in it.

Yet I get the sense that, even if Uncle Sam was offering muchos dólares, there wouldn't be a stampede.

My second would be, OK, the Janjaweed aren't great shakes military-wise. But what would be the effect of (to quote your reply to bi66er)

putting in a small American contingent of troops.

Clearly, anything the Sudanese have got (it's not much right now, apparently) will be no match for the US military.

But the potential for diplomatic/political blowback must be considerable. Not to mention guerilla warfare, and another theater for jihadists. (D'you think we've run out of jihadists?)

And

encouraging international allies

Who exactly would they be?

Even Bomber Blair would think more than twice, I'm thinking, given his recent local difficulties, and the outcome of Iraq.

Even if we hadn't had the appalling Iraq war and the ghastlier prospect of an Iran war clearly in view, talk of any sort of US military intervention in Darfur would be crazy.

As it is - I'm just thankful that even the lunatic in the Oval Office has balked at it so far.


by skeptic06 on Mon May 01, 2006 at 10:39:51 AM EST
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Re: Think you'll find it was already bare! (none / 0)

Years ago, maybe during Clinton's presidency an agreement was reached between Europe and the US over who deals with crisis in Africa and South (and Central) America.  The Europeans had primary responsibility over Africa, the the US had responsibility over the Americas.  

Europe's response to Rwanda was woefully slow, and we should not allow that to happen in Darfur.  

There's another side of the story that is not being told. Darfur is sitting on top of large oil deposits. Like in other parts of Africa, it is a light sweet crude.  The west's action or inaction is probably tied to those oil deposits.  Let's face it, if we don't suck up to Sudan's government, Exxon and Halliburton won't be able to step foot in Darfur.  

BTW, the left was pretty much in support of ending the genocide of the Bosnians.  We knew that if we didn't act, the war could spread. That region played an important role in WWI and WWII. We knew we couldn't ignore it.  

As members of NATO we were obliged to stand with fellow NATO members.  


by alfredo on Mon May 01, 2006 at 02:02:47 PM EST
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Not clear how Sudanese oil plays in this (none / 0)

I note you're not addressing my points above on practicalities.

But, passing over that - I don't doubt in the least that the Sudan's oil comes into the equation of US policy on Darfur.

I'm not clear how, though.

So far as I'm aware, EO 13067 (PDF) is still in force, embargoing US firms from dealing with the Sudan.

And China is the main investor in Sudan oil.

Would the US have any strategic interest in stymieing the Chinese taking oil from the Sudan? Not, I'd suggest, for the good of the denizens of Darfur! (I don't think the main reserves are anywhere near Darfur: and the Sudan is one huge country.)

(The latest EIA brief on the Sudan - and September 2003 HRW Report Sudan, Oil and Human Rights.)

Perhaps someone with actual expertise on Sudan oil might help us all out here...


by skeptic06 on Mon May 01, 2006 at 02:49:39 PM EST
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Re: Not clear how Sudanese oil plays in this (none / 0)

US oil companies could probably do like Halliburton did. They got around the Iran embargo by using foreign subsidiaries.

Here's something on Oil in Darfur.
http://tinyurl.com/b4mmj

millionaire British businessman, Friedhelm Eronat, was named last night as the purchaser of oil rights in the Darfur region of Sudan, where the regime is accused of war crimes and where millions of tribespeople are alleged to have been forced to flee, amid mass rapes or murders.

The disclosure was greeted with outrage by human rights campaigners. "From a moral point of view these people are paying a government whose senior members may end up in front of the international criminal court for war crimes," Simon Taylor, director of Global Witness, said yesterday.

SNIP

Documents seen by the Guardian suggest that Mr Eronat, who lives in a £20m house in Chelsea, swapped his US passport for a British one shortly before the deal was signed with the Sudan regime in October 2003.

US citizens are barred from dealing with Sudan under sanctions dating from 1997.

The congo wars have been going on for as long as I remember. When I lived in Eritrea (late 60's)  I remember the partitioning in the Congo.  There was intervention there, by large mercenary armies. I think it was Willie (Flapjack) Shram who led the corporate forces the defeated the Congolese army.  

The colonial partitioning of the Congo is a likely reason for the troubles in the Congo and Africa in general. the Congo is so broken, intervention may not help.

The French peacekeeping forces are involved in the Congo. They have history and language in common.  If US forces are needed I am sure we will be asked.  Of course we are tied down in Iraq and maybe soon Iran, so we don't have as many options.


by alfredo on Mon May 01, 2006 at 07:05:24 PM EST
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Touchgraph the Janjaweed (none / 0)

Try this for fun -

1. Find out the name of the janjaweed funders, e.g. maybe the govt. of  sudan, etc.

2. Drop the url in over here:
http://www.touchgraph.com/TGGoogleBrowse r.html

See where it takes you.


by turnerbroadcasting on Mon May 01, 2006 at 08:15:16 AM EST


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