A Modest Proposal: The "No Death Threat" Litmus Test For Bloggers

Since I know that the WaPo is hot in search of a new conservative blogger in order to balance out original commentary and / or reporting with plagiarism, I would like to propose a simple "no death threat" litmus test for them as they conduct their search. For starters, don't hire any blogger who posts private phone numbers of college students. Perhaps more importantly, don't hire any blogger whose readers call said phone numbers and issue death threats to said college students. I would take this a step further, and suggest that the Post doesn't hire anyone who blogrolls the death threat issuing blog, but that would exclude around 90% of the conservative blogosphere from consideration. Malkin, is the second most blogrolled conservative blog in the country, with 4,947 conservative blogs giving her a permanent link.

I, for one, can proudly say that the MyDD community has never posted private phone numbers and then had our readers call those numbers and issue death threats via said phone numbers. I plan to continue our no death threat policy, even though I realize that we now live in an era when issuing death threats to legal protesters has become commonplace. I know that there is debate about this in some circles, but I believe that issuing death threats to private citizens is, generally speaking, opposed to the principles of democratic discourse. I know that some say death threats help create balance in our contemporary political discourse, in order to counter those commentators who do not issue death threats. After all, how else can we make certain that those people who issue death threats are properly represented in our non-death threat issuing liberal media?

However, I just think that death threats cross a line. Sometimes, we members of the media need to editorialize and drop the "fair and balanced" veneer. So, here is my editorial. Death threats have no place in our national political discourse. Call me a bleeding heart if you must, but that is my opinion. I hope that the Washington Post agrees with me.



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I agree (none / 0)

Posting private emails, linking to one's name in a directory at a university, referring to those who desire to remain anonymous by first names: all this should be banned on blogs.  I know I have been a victim of such exposure, and I hope everyone here will refrain from engaging in such practices.


by illinois062006 on Tue Apr 18, 2006 at 02:43:31 AM EST

Re: I agree (3.00 / 2)

I didn't realize that people who have been banned from this community multiple times had the right to start lecturing others about its norms, especially when it comes to information you chose to make publicly available.

There's a difference between free speech and threats, and no one has posted your phone number, contacted your employer, or any other behavior which all members of this community would rightly condemn.


by Adam B on Tue Apr 18, 2006 at 08:31:21 AM EST
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Re: I agree (none / 0)

Is the above message what you were trying to reply to Adam? If so, I don't get it.


by Nindid on Tue Apr 18, 2006 at 01:27:05 PM EST
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Re: I agree (3.00 / 2)

It was.

And I do.


by Kagro X on Tue Apr 18, 2006 at 05:45:55 PM EST
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And again... (3.00 / 1)

Yet another post becomes all about Metonym, Ph.D-to-be (in two years).

Metonym/Formalist/ilyayavitz/illinois062 006, the reason your name was "exposed" was because YOU exposed it, you numbnuts... YOU posted several (something like 362 if I remember correctly) different links to a dipshit letter-to-the-editor that you actually got published with YOUR name on it.  YOU repeatedly tell us you "teach" at the University of Chicago (and people must kindly remind you to s.t.f.u. because you're a T.A., and saying you "teach" at the University of Chicago implies much more than the T.A.-ing you do... I digress). YOU repeatedly say that you're an art history student at the University of Chicago... and this community only knows ONE annoying verbose dipshit from the art-history department at the University of Chicago... and that person is Metonym... (I must admit, I don't write your actual name, since I wouldn't want that done to me... but I wouldn't ever TELL anybody my actual name, especially if I was as degrading of an individual as you...)... That said, if anonymity is what you desire, then choose yet another user-name... but this time, seek psychological help for your narcisistic tendencies... because you seriously have a problem, and you're going to end up telling everybody that you "teach" at Chicago (for the 8 millionth time because you think that makes you somehow special because you go to a private school, (as do hundreds of thousands of other college kids, by the way))... and your arrogance will once again "expose" you.  You do it to yourself.


Invest in nature
by NCDem on Tue Apr 18, 2006 at 11:39:42 PM EST
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Re: And again... (none / 0)

This 'Metonym' phenomenon has been continuing here for years now! If it's the same person, I have never seen anything very outrageous about his or her comments. But then, I don't see everything. I don't really care if this person in in Chicago, or whatever. I'm sure it's cold as hell up there now.

Maybe in ten years we will have a big thread when this person becomes a famous nutty artist or something. I can hardly wait for the next episode!


by blues on Wed Feb 14, 2007 at 01:52:07 AM EST
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New Day, Another Idiot (none / 0)

I am sure she gets patted on the back for her 'heroic' and probably got off on it, but its really just very sad.  

The thing that sucks is that, now all these people are going to have to de-list their numbers AND change them.  The worst part is that now that they are out there, the real idiots will look up their home addresses to where these people live and I bet they will get crap at their home also.  

Its just terrible that she would have done this in that fashion.  I wonder how fast till someone DoS her site.


by Gigadafud on Tue Apr 18, 2006 at 08:09:06 AM EST

Re: The "No Death Threat" Litmus Test (none / 0)

How long before Malkin threatens to kill people (or have her minions threaten to kill people) who are opposed to death threats? As David Neiwart of Orcinus points out, eliminationism is the new ultra-patriot's Americanism.


by Zeno on Tue Apr 18, 2006 at 08:22:26 AM EST

Nice one (none / 0)

This post reminds me of Hunter's "Melting the Skin off of Children"

Such a simple concept to understand, yet somehow amazing that a large number of people tolerate such horrible actions.


Rudy Giuliani hates firefighters. And puppies.
by Fran for Dean on Tue Apr 18, 2006 at 10:50:09 AM EST

Re: Chris, We Need An Attorney (none / 0)

While no attorney (I tend to avoid the species when possible...unless they're my candidate)...we need an attorney to examine all the issues involved here.

A. Civil liablity
B. Violation of the Cyberstalking law signed by Bush
C. Proximate cause of the Death Threats
D. Refusal to remove the phone numbers after be informed of the Death threats

And I hope the students at Santa Cruz are savy enough to be looking for an attorney of their own and filing a report of every threat, with recording, with the local police or sheriff office and demanding an investigation.

Death threats in this day and age are no laughing matter. To many die in the heat of politically radical beliefs.

Here's one resource:
CasePost,Inc.
It acts as a clearing house for cases where the person does not have an attorney. I know two of the owners and it is legit. If ACLU isn't going to move; if Campus Security or University Legal isn't going to move; if they don't have the funds for an attorney (and in Santa Cruz I would have a hard time believing they couldn't find an attorney that would take it on for free)...then here's one resource.

Any attorney's onboard here?


just a red meat eatin' Democratic Dawg frontpaging at The Democratic Daily...
by BigDog on Tue Apr 18, 2006 at 11:59:59 AM EST

You are a group of liberal wimps (none / 0)

Common, if SAW couldn't take the heat, they shouldn't have have entered the kitchen.  Really, we're just talking "death threats" and "character assassination"; Real Manly Men passed this class before high school.

 I mean, if you liberty loving, bleeding heart liberals can't even call college students on their disobedience to our King, how are you ever going to be able to kill real people and keep our country free from all the evil people around the world.

 Liberals are bleeding hearts who get tears in their eyes when called to action.  Repugs are real manly men who know a bullet or a lie is always better than a feeling.

 Obviously, Malkin is a "Real" Man and the rest of us are wimps.


by ocdemocrat on Tue Apr 18, 2006 at 12:28:32 PM EST

Re: You are a group of liberal wimps (none / 0)

Sarcasm is easily missed in writing... you were doing a satire. Right!??!


by Nindid on Tue Apr 18, 2006 at 01:29:11 PM EST
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Re: You are a group of liberal wimps (none / 0)

 I couldn't decide whether to be seriously sarcastic, or sarcastically serious.  I guess you can read the response differently from either side of the aisle.  From my side on the left, I would classify my remarks as .....  I can't decide.

 


by ocdemocrat on Tue Apr 18, 2006 at 03:44:03 PM EST
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Correction (3.00 / 2)

"with 4,947 conservative blogs giving her a permanent link."

Make that 4,946.


by Don Surber on Tue Apr 18, 2006 at 12:31:21 PM EST

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Good for you Don.

http://donsurber.blogspot.com/

We can disagree on politics, sometimes vehemently, but some things cross the line.

Peace,

Andrew


The 10,000 Things
by Andrew C White on Tue Apr 18, 2006 at 03:47:16 PM EST
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Mass Suicide? (none / 0)


I've been thinking about this.  Perhaps we have been wrong all these years.  We are helping the terrorists by utilizing our Constitutional rights.  We should be ashamed of ourselves for not granting every deference to the President, who was elected by less than 50% of the population.  

So I propose a mass suicide.  All liberals, progressives, all doubters and dissenters:  let's just end it all.  That way there are no need for death threats.  


Would you hire George W Bush to be YOUR latex salesman?
by jgkojak on Tue Apr 18, 2006 at 02:04:12 PM EST

Re: Mass Suicide? (none / 0)

  Depends on what Latex salesmen sell!


by ocdemocrat on Tue Apr 18, 2006 at 03:51:31 PM EST
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You should have mentioned... (none / 0)

the death threats.


by Kagro X on Tue Apr 18, 2006 at 05:48:32 PM EST

Death Threats work for me! (none / 0)

It is a profound measure of how far we have descended into the very deepest level of The Pit. That we are having this sort of conversation about a deranged individual such as Malkin, not her real name by the way, she will suffer for this but really what of the rest of us?

Shall we turn the other cheek? Shall we continue to pretend we don't
see The Face of Evil.

The time for decision in this country approaches at a very rapid rate.

Who among us is going to be ready to fight these ghouls of the right, these fascist theocrats who have destroyed whatever reputation for justice and decency this nation ever had.

The Right are racists.

The Right are murderers.

The Right are torturers.

Look in the mirror and ask yourself...

What am I going to do to stop them.
.


by Pericles on Tue Apr 18, 2006 at 07:35:59 PM EST

Re: Death Threats work for me! (none / 0)

I do not like the fact that we have to contend with a right wing contingent here in the US. But to broadly charge this right wing contingent with things like racism, murder, torture, etc. is seriously mistaken. Most of the right wingers do not buy into those nasty things. The real brown shirts who really do threaten and bully are far better described as 'neocons'.

These distinctions are most important, since these activities are very serious transgressions. Collateral damage is always a very bad thing.


by blues on Wed Feb 14, 2007 at 02:11:40 AM EST
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