The 2006 Electorate Will Not Include Many Independents

Mystery Pollster has an excellent piece up on the Rasmussen poll. It is lengthy, and I can't possibly summarize the entire piece here, so poll junkies should go check it out for themselves. I think this post goes a long way toward explaining the age-old question (age-old in blogosphere time, anyway): why does Rasmussen end up with results that lean to the right? Basically, the answer can be found in the significantly lower number of independents Rasmussen includes in their surveys compared to other polling firms. MP writes:
The biggest difference is that Rasmussen has fewer respondents in the independent and other categories (29%) than most of the other polls of adults (an average of 39%). However, Rasmussen's independent/other result is very close to average of recent surveys that screened for registered voters or likely voters (LV - an average of 30%).
Now, we all know here at MyDD that independents have long since soured on Republicans and on Bush. So, it should seem pretty obvious to everyone here that when a poll reduces the number of independents in a poll, that poll will trend favorably for Republicans, even thought he poll still gives Democrats an edge in overall partisan self-identification.

One word of caution: it might be entirely reasonable to reduce the number of independents in a poll and instead focus on a more partisan universe of voters. This is especially the case for a low-turnout, mid-term election. Combined, Democrats and Republicans will probably make up at least 72% of the vote in November, and might make up more than 75%. Compare that to recent polls, where they are only combining for an average of 61% of the estimated electorate, and you might see our problem. Independents turn out at low rates, so the Democratic lead among independents might not be as important as many are currently construing it to be.

A more partisan universe improves Republican odds greatly in 2006. While the last twenty-seven polls over at Polling Report show Bush with an average approval of 37.6% positive and 57.3% negative, the last sixteen Rasmussen polls show an average of 42.4% positive, 55.9% negative. In terms of net approval, that is a 6.2% improvement for Bush in the more partisan Rasmussen universe. This is the type of swing that moves the election away from a landslide-realignment, and toward a close battle for control.

Since there are many good reasons to believe that the electorate will be more partisan than the general public, or even more partisan than the universe of registered voters, do not discount the Rasmussen results lightly. 2006 will be a base turnout election, and our party leadership needs to realize that there are more to elections than independents. Emmanuel and Schumer seem to believe that anger alone will be enough to drive up Democratic turnout. I am not convinced. We must appeal to the activist base to build our political machine in ways other than simply watching Republicans implode.



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Re: The 2006 Electorate (none / 0)

"...Emmanuel and Schumer seem to believe that anger alone will be enough to drive up Democratic turnout."

Not sure about the turnout part of their belief, given how many of us over here on the left feel about these opportunistic clowns running the party in DC.

But they're right about the anger part, though they miss a few of the other ingredients. Add two parts disgust to the one part anger, then one part disdain and five parts impatience and they'd have pretty much nailed it.

Whaddaya got? Political backlash potion.

Potent stuff, especially when you've still got a fairly decent economy. Just wait and see what wonders it can perform when an economy goes south in a significant way.

'Course, the magic is hard to predict, as the '30's sorta showed, but then again, recent history in Latin America (whose political economies more resemble the US) indicates an admirable lurch to the left.


by redstar66 on Tue Apr 18, 2006 at 12:13:34 PM EST

turnout (none / 0)

I am guessing that two issues that, if heavily promoted, could increase turnout are healthcare and reform. If there's one issue that could drive voters to the polls, it's a credible promise to alleviate people's problems and anxieties over health insurance or the lack thereof. Also, I think voters understand on a gut level that corruption is a major cause of our government's overall shittyness, and this is a big part of their cynicism and apathy. If Dems go balls out on campaign finance and lobbying reform in a real way, I guarantee they'll turn out a shitload of Perot voters.


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by miasmo on Tue Apr 18, 2006 at 12:30:28 PM EST

Turnout problems (3.00 / 1)

It is hard for us in the super-heated world of the blogs to understand, but a lot of the voters we need to turn out are more demoralized than angry. I saw this last fall with Gov. Arnold's special election. These voters don't focus on what kind of election it is or who is running -- they have a side and their side hasn't won in a long time -- so why should they demean themselves for voting again? I heard this over and over from inner city voters who would undoubtedly have voted for our positions if we could get them out. We did persuade many, and they got a win, but they are very tired of defensive battles.


Can It Happen Here?
by janinsanfran on Tue Apr 18, 2006 at 12:39:53 PM EST

Base turnout (3.00 / 1)

Chris, I am glad you are keeping focused on the issue of base turnout. This will be the deciding factor in Nov.

I believe the current generic ballot poll advantage is going to prove detrimental for Dems success at the mid-terms. The Dems DC leadership assume that the base will turnout under nay circumstance so its better for them to not take any stands or fight the Repubs aggressively. Personally, I think this will be fatal and the Dems will come up short once again as the Dems base will not be sufficiently energized to make the difference of those few percentage points.

Such a result at the mid-terms will embolden Bush & Cheney and we will have seen nothing of their mendacity yet.


by ab initio on Tue Apr 18, 2006 at 02:04:55 PM EST

Re: Base turnout (none / 0)

EXACTLY, why the f*** should we worry about convincing so called crossovers to vote democratic when they are many people who gave up on voting either side.

The base is important.


by Pravin on Tue Apr 18, 2006 at 03:57:48 PM EST
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Re: Base turnout (none / 0)


The Democrats helped George W. Bush to go to War in Iraq.

America needs people who don't have a single agenda. The whole picture is important: reform will be a radical, pervasive action -

Or it will not happen, at all.

Bowers is wrong. So are you.


by turnerbroadcasting on Wed Apr 19, 2006 at 07:22:32 AM EST
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Re: The 2006 Electorate Will Not Include Many Inde (3.00 / 1)

The DC DEMOS just don't get it yet for some reason? They figure they'll just sit back say nothing and do nothing and reap the benefit of everyone elses effort. I'm sick of these people they no more represent me then the rethugs do. I bet many of them are already lining up to the same corrupt lobbyists as Delay and gang sucked off  of. We need to clean house in the party first or NOTHING will change in this country. The BIG Corps. wll just buy off the DEMOS. that are there now.


by Blutodog on Tue Apr 18, 2006 at 03:49:36 PM EST

Re: The 2006 Electorate Will Not Include Many Inde (none / 0)

"The BIG Corps. wll just buy off the DEMOS. that are there now."

What makes you think they haven't already?

K-street project was about the GOP getting a decent share of the take. But the GOP by no means got all of the take.

Dems are still getting theirs, just less so. And the establishment Dems? They look upon the great unwashed (that's us) as unable to suitably interact with the "big money donors"...

QED.


by redstar66 on Tue Apr 18, 2006 at 03:54:36 PM EST
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Re: The 2006 Electorate Will Not Include Many Inde (none / 0)

I got news for u I'll settle for them gadly right now if  we can just get rid of the nightmarish regime were stuck with at present. If we can't re-gain atleast one house this year with things falling apart for the rethugs at present were screwed.


by Blutodog on Tue Apr 18, 2006 at 10:21:42 PM EST
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As usual... (none / 0)

As usual Chris is assuming what he is trying to prove.


by turnerbroadcasting on Tue Apr 18, 2006 at 06:34:15 PM EST


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