McCain, Moving to the Right, Loses Ground to Hillary

I've been extremely skeptical about John McCain's ability to win over the Republican base in the next two years, which would likely be required for him to pick up the GOP presidential nomination in 2008. But Senator McCain has been intent on doing this, moving ever further to the right -- a difficult move given how conservative he already was.

For all of the talk of how successful or unsuccessful McCain has been in wooing over the more regressive segments of the GOP base -- and given his anemic showing at the SRLC, it doesn't look like he's been so succussful yet -- the great factor missing in the debate is how this overt selling out to the right wing might affect him should he make it into the general election. The Charlie Cook, the ultimate insider's insider, polled this exact question last week, however, and came out with some very interesting data.

The one really intriguing nugget of data in the new Cook Political Report/RT Strategies poll has to do with 2008. Thus far, when Sens. John McCain, R-Ariz., and Hillary Rodham Clinton, D-N.Y., have been matched up in hypothetical ballot tests, McCain has won each easily. Now that McCain has embarked on a grand repositioning of himself in the political marketplace, moving from the independent, moderate maverick to a mainstream Republican team player, it raises the questions of what he gains, what he loses, and what is the net effect.

While the truth is that on most important, substantive issues, as opposed to process issues (e.g. campaign finance reform), McCain's voting record has always been very conservative and there is no shift. Indeed, his strong support of the war in Iraq has not wavered one bit. On measures of style, rhetoric and political positioning (e.g., going to Rev. Jerry Falwell's Liberty University to give the commencement address), though, McCain is clearly moving. As McCain begins to solidify himself on the right, does he sacrifice support in the middle?

It is far too soon to say, but comparing the late February Cook Political Report/RT Strategies numbers to the newest ones, McCain has gone from a 10-point, 47 percent to 37 percent advantage, to a five-point, 44 percent to 39 percent lead. Among registered voters, McCain's advantage has had a smaller drop from a 12-point margin (48 percent to 36 percent) in February to a 9-point margin (46 percent to 37 percent). [emphasis added]

Cook rightly notes that it's a bit hasty to draw hard and fast conclusions from two polls; after all, there could have been statistical noise in either one of the recent surveys that actually accounted for the fairly noticeable shift in the head-to-head matchup between Senators McCain and Clinton. That said, it is not inconceivable that the data are correct -- that as a result of McCain's posturing to the extreme right the general public is much less enamored with him. If this is indeed the case, as might be borne out in data from future surveys, McCain might ironically be poised to emerge from the Republican primary unelectable in a general election on account of his far right views.



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McCain Loses Ground to Hillary (none / 0)

At the same time, the generic congressional has gone from +10 to +20.

The gap between the generic and the McCain v Hillary is actually INCREASING. Why? People believe in generic Democrats, ie, what they think Democrats should stand for, but when they see a real one like Hillary, they're less than impressed, in fact they're tuning out.

If Hillary is gaining on McCain, it's perhaps not so much that McCain is turning off the less wingnutty in his party as it is a general disposition towards the Dems, Hillary riding the coattails of general dissatisfaction with the GOP.

But the fact of the matter is 20-25% of the electorate want to vote Democrat but don't believe in the Democratic message as mouthed by its headline acts. This is what the gap between Hillary v McCain and the generic congressionals means for me.

And you can repeat this experiment for Kerry if you think Hillary is a special case because her last name is Clinton. You get the same result.

Not all these folks are lefties like me, of course, but many are. The other main subgroup could probably be described as the sort of lunch-pail economic, so-called "Reagan" Democrat, the sorts of folks a guy like Eddy Schultz or Paul Hackett speak well to. And I suspect they're breaking heavily for McCain at this time, and likely will continue to do so until the Dems come up with a real message that speaks to their economic concerns and distinguishes, in real governing terms, themselves from McCain's brand of GOP.

I suspect the language they want to hear is to the left of what the Democratic party is willing to draft.


by redstar66 on Fri Apr 14, 2006 at 05:16:17 PM EST

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They want a populist, a likeable person, someone to drink beer with.

Not an elitist New Yorker.


The history of the left is a history of purists betraying the progressive movement so that they can feel good about their righteous selves.
by Populism2008 on Fri Apr 14, 2006 at 07:10:14 PM EST
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I find it hard to believe the public is paying ANY attention right now to John McCain or anyone else running for president. It's more than two years away fer chrissakes. Those among the political junkies of us who are paying attention represent, what, 1-2% of the voting population?

People may tune in later this year to Hillary Clinton's re-election campaign. As she moves to a landslide victory her momentum and positive press will give her a nice bump, not unlike the post-convention bounce for presidential candidates.


by Stiller41 on Fri Apr 14, 2006 at 05:49:49 PM EST

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I'm not so confident. Remember, we went through this same dance with W - and with Reagan, for that matter.

Shortsighted media coverage ensures the average American won't remember how he felt about a politician more than a month or two ago. There will be plenty of time for McCain to move to the extreme right - and disavow any flirtations he had with sanity before 2004 - to win his party's nomination by March, and plenty more time for him to back away from such extremism in order to assuage any fears before November. And the media will be covering his ass every step of the way.


If you're always playing the fear card, it's a pretty good sign you're not playing with a full deck!
by Mathwiz on Fri Apr 14, 2006 at 06:16:32 PM EST

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The fall is attributable to the spotlight shone on the real John McCain.  The real McCain is an unstable, hot-tempered, insane, egomaniacal power-driven opportunist who was at the bottom of his class at the Naval Academy (the Naval Academy he got into because his daddy was Admiral McCain).

McCain's obvious insanity makes him way too dangerous to be president.  People will see that and his campaign will tank, not even winning the GOP nomination.  

Why people here and all over the blogosphere wring their hands daily worring about John McCain I'll never understand.  Perhaps it's because I know him and he actually said a very angry, perhaps threatening, thing to me and some people I was with back in 1995 when he was stumping for Phil Gramm.  Remember him?


McCain is defining Obama, and Obama is neither defining himself, nor McCain. This is awful.
by jgarcia on Fri Apr 14, 2006 at 06:20:26 PM EST

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Here's a storyline for McCain:

Extend an olive branch to the nutcases in the GOP (like speaking at Falwell's Liberty University) but still run as the "traditional" Republican.  If he wins the nomination he gets credit in the mainstream media for slaying the great dragon (Allen, Brownback) of the far-right.  Meanwhile, expect a new book and maybe a new movie about McCain's service in Vietnam.  McCain runs in the general election as the "security" candidate against "nanny" Hillary Clinton.

Anyway, regardless of bumps up and down in the polls I have always thought McCain matches up very, very well in 2008.  McCain does great among independents (which have been trending Democrat in recent years).  McCain made a great first impression when he hit the national scene in 2000.  Despite his kissing up to Bush lately he McCain is still seen as a feisty, reform minded maverick.  I'll argue long & hard with anybody that he will be a strong candidate in 2008.  


by howardpark on Fri Apr 14, 2006 at 06:48:12 PM EST

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McCain is being outed and his own words and deeds will do him in... as long as the media tells the truth or at least reports the truth.

I for one believe that Wes Clark will be the strongest candidate.

Kevin

http://securingamerica.com


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by kevin22262 on Fri Apr 14, 2006 at 07:06:54 PM EST
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He will continue to be (3.00 / 1)

a strong candidate as long as people like you continue to think that way. That's why he will win, because liberals/Democrats just seem to be willing to say, "well he is strong candidate" and not pointing out evidence that would make him weaker(his flip flopping on Falwell, taxes, and gay marriage to name a couple).


by jj32 on Fri Apr 14, 2006 at 07:18:55 PM EST
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Re: He will continue to be (3.00 / 1)

Never underestimate the opposition.


by howardpark on Fri Apr 14, 2006 at 07:44:20 PM EST
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Re: McCain, Moving to the Right, Loses Ground to H (none / 0)

Anyone who survives and wins the Republican primary is a nutcase. Being a wingnut is the key to victory.


The history of the left is a history of purists betraying the progressive movement so that they can feel good about their righteous selves.
by Populism2008 on Fri Apr 14, 2006 at 07:07:45 PM EST


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