Rodriguez-Cuellar: Limits of netroots

 Many on the lefty blogosphere have trumpeted the "netroots" - the use of blogs and web-based activism to push our side over the Repukes.  Rodriguez-Cuellar provides a little reality check.  The lefty blogo-sphere contributed a lot of money to Rodriguez (Admission: I did not contribute), and he did not win.  

In point of fact, raising money from the netroots is important but very limited.  Money makes the world go 'round, but on-the-ground activism gets out the vote.

  1. Did Rodriguez change his operation from 2004 to improve his ground game?

  2. Did the changes he made do any good?  He appears to have lost by the same amount

  3. Why was Morales in the race?  Did he take votes from Cuellar or Rodriguez?  Could he have been removed from the race, and thereby improve Rodriguez' position? Admittedly, Cuellar appears to have won by 53%, avoiding a run-off, and he will now coast into November.

We, the lefty blog subscribers, are getting hit every day for contributions, by email, telephone and letter.  Are we getting our money's worth?



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Re: Rodriguez-Cuellar: Limits of netroots (none / 0)

The problem is that net-root is run top to bottom, rather than bottom to top. This entire campaign was based on one premise--Ceuller's photo with Bush. Very few people posting here (like myself) actually live in Texas-28. Ciro, a good man with a good record, is not a good campaigner. But no input is ever taken from those that live there -- that is the biggest problem with the net-root movement. There's no root about the movement, except money from the net. Just throwing money someone's way is not going to lead them to victory. Further, a lot of voters came to see this as a "grudge" match being fought by Ciro to regain his seat. There wasn't enough positive energy in the campaign. Victor Morales (who, gained 44% against a Republican opponent in 1996 senate race), if supported properly, would've been a better candidate but netroots seems to be listening to the establishment more than the residents.


by saurabhgupta on Wed Mar 08, 2006 at 11:36:38 AM EST

I am very interested in this (none / 0)

I have noticed that the netroots are able to create quite a stir and even raise a reasonable amount of money. But that so far their record in winning is thin. Well, it is a new approach, so growing pains are understandable. But I want to find the successful formula fast. Why? Because my favorite local candidate, also a friend, is locked in a tough Dem primary for an open Congressional seat. The winner of the primary will win the general election, so the primary is vert important.

Here is what I wrote about this race recently. I have just convinced my friend that the netroots might be able to boost his campaign, though I also warned him that at times it is tough to get attention on the blogs. He is new to blogging and I have been helping him put together a "Why I am Running for Congress" diary to post on various blogs in hopes of getting him the kind of attention Hackett and Rodriguez got. But I am afraid that the effort might not be worth it given the current record of the netroots.

My friend is a VERY good campaigner. He has been described as "preacher-like" by a local paper. He is very popular among the local grassroots, though none of the local groups have yet done endorsements for this race. He has a shot at several of the grassroots, on the ground group endorsements. He also has some national support--Dennis Kucinich, Maxine Waters, Bernie Sanders... What he DOESN'T have is money. As a grassroots progressive, he doesn't attract the big money interests. THAT is where I hope the netroots can help.

Anyone have suggestions? How can he (with my help since he doesn't know blogging or html or anything) a.) get the attention of the netroots and b.) make the most efficient and effective use of the netroots?


by mole333 on Wed Mar 08, 2006 at 12:02:32 PM EST
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Good campaigner (none / 0)

You would think guys like Rodriguez, who are known as being not so good at campaigning, would, um, brush up on those skills. Candidates practice before debates -- do they practice to campaign?


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by LiberalFromPA on Wed Mar 08, 2006 at 03:56:20 PM EST
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Re: Rodriguez-Cuellar: Limits of netroots (none / 0)

Good diary. (I was typing a similar one simultaneously, including seven specific (and, I believe, constructive questions I have for the campaign... Link below.)

I think it is very important in these situations to ask the hard questions and not just paint a rosy "we lost but here's how we really won" scenario. I also think it's important not to criticize just because the good guy lost. The key is to learn from the loss, and get down to fixing the problems so that you win the next time.

My own post-TX28 diary is at:
http://mydd.com/story/2006/3/8/122442/37 93


by Hudson on Wed Mar 08, 2006 at 12:33:03 PM EST

Re: Rodriguez-Cuellar: Limits of netroots (none / 0)

Thank you.  I would like to hear from Rodriguez.  He posted on DKos, but made no comments on the issues that I raise - the quality of his ground game, what he did to change from '04, etc.


by dataguy on Wed Mar 08, 2006 at 01:02:36 PM EST
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Re: Rodriguez-Cuellar: Limits of netroots (none / 0)

Let's face it, the closest that most bloggers have come to TX-28 is singing The Streets of Laredo at school.

But it seems - no doubt Dr Phil would have a theory - that, the less real-world connection a blogger has with a race, the more passionate he is about it. Especially when his boy loses.

Hence the scenes over at Kos earlier today more appropriate to a David Cassidy concert c1973.

Blogs are completely inadequate to deal with particular campaigns. Even to present information on multiple campaigns, let alone do anything to influence them.

(How to do this? A wiki? I dunno. Something that can handle a lot of info like a spreadsheet, but in a web page.)

Expectations have been way overblown. Many folks in 04 were bowled over by the gee-whiz factor of real-time blog action, commenting, feeling part of an online community with but a single aim.

Effectiveness and efficiency didn't enter their heads much.

Blogs are essentially a way of shooting the breeze. Sometimes, interesting ideas are exchanged (more often on this blog than on some I could mention!).

But let's not kid ourselves - nothing actually gets done beyond the dispatch of a few bucks.

Which pays a few bills. But does nothing at the business end of the campaign.


by skeptic06 on Wed Mar 08, 2006 at 04:10:02 PM EST

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DKos also has a collective wacky notion of what a good set of policies are.  There is a huge group of people there who believe that coming out 100 % for gay marriage would be a good thing.

I don't agree.  Many progressive policy ideas will never fly in the mainstream, and this one above all is poison.


by dataguy on Thu Mar 09, 2006 at 09:50:37 AM EST
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Re: Rodriguez-Cuellar: Limits of netroots (none / 0)

The Netroots: the new Bob Shrum?

Discuss.


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by HellofaSandwich on Wed Mar 08, 2006 at 04:47:34 PM EST

Re: Rodriguez-Cuellar: Limits of netroots (none / 0)

It seems to me your point here is another way of getting at what I was saying about netroots and Pennacchio: netroots -- at least at the national level of MyDD or dKos -- are a blunt instrument as far as winning/losing particular elections.  But they're a craftsman's tool in advancing positions and name recognition.

Re "good set of policies" -- sure they might not win, but they're still good.  I don't advocate throwing candidates out the window if they don't support each and every one of a set of good positions including gay marriage, but I'm willing to hold it against candidates who don't support most of them.  E.g., Bob Casey: pro-life, pro-Alito, Democrat In Name Only.


by thomasn528 on Fri Mar 10, 2006 at 10:18:46 AM EST


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