The 2006 election narrative should now focus on the progressive, activist base

Sorry I have been gone for so long, but I am back now. This is the non-data based essence of a presentation I gave today at a progressive media conference. Look to Donkey Rising later today for more on the data that backs up just how good the 2006 could potentially be for Democrats--Chris

As we approach the 2006 midterm election, we are also inevitably moving closer to the time period when the established news media will solidify its conventional wisdom narrative about the election. To date, this narrative has focused on the apparent electoral problems facing Republicans, but with the emphasis that Democrats are not properly taking advantage of the generational level of opportunity presented to them. As EJ Dionne has noted, whenever established news outlets such as the Washington Post run stories describing just how bad the 2006 situation looks for Republicans, predictably within a few days we can expect a similar wave of stories about how Democrats are divided, have no message, are not as far ahead as they should be, or any other type of story that basically portrays Democrats as not properly taking advantage of the opportunities afforded to them by the at least temporary collapse of the Republican machine. From my vantage point, this narrative, that Republicans are in trouble but Democrats are not taking advantage, seems to be the most likely shape of the conventional wisdom narrative on 2006 that we can expect from the established news media when the campaign really starts to heat up in August, September and beyond.

The main problem with this narrative is that it is now horribly out of date. Nine months ago, Jerome made a seminal post on MyDD entitled Democrats and Independents in a new majority. In the post, he discussed a Bush job approval poll from American Research Group that showed how Independents were far, far closer to Democrats in their opinion of President Bush than they were to Republicans. Since that time, poll after poll after poll on nearly every issue imaginable has shown independents, no matter where they live, to be far closer to Democrats than Republicans. Last October, Ruy Teixeira coined the term "Indycrats" to describe this trend. Political Arthmetik has noted:
The difficulty for President Bush here is that he is noticeably less popular among independents than one would expect of a president with a 38% overall approval rating. Instead, his approval among independents is some 9-10% below what we might expect based on other presidents.
This newfound affinity for Democrats among independents is the primary reason why Democrats are currently in possession of enormous leads in generic congressional ballots. The most recent Gallup poll showed Democrats with a 20%+ lead among independents. Pew polls have shown similar margins for Democrats among independents. In short, we are now a full nine months into a nationwide trend where Independents have shifted away from Republicans and toward Democrats.

This is why the conventional wisdom narrative on 2006 is out of date. To argue that Democrats are not properly taking advantage of the situation, and that they have not developed a message to appeal to swing voters, ignores both the enormous leads that Democrats have held in generic congressional ballots for nearly a full year, and that these leads have come almost entirely from their strength among swing voters, i.e. independents. The issue at hand is no longer "in the face of Republican collapse, why aren't Democrats doing better?" Democrats are doing better. They have huge leads, and have had them for several months. In contrast to the current conventional wisdom narrative, the actual issue at hand is whether or not Democrats have the electoral and activist recourses to deliver this new potential governing majority to the polls on Election Day. In other words, the issue is not whether or not Democrats can appeal to swing voters, because they have done that. The issue is whether or not the progressive activist base is excited enough o provide Democrats with the resources to win the 2006 election.

An up to date narrative on 2006 that reflects the current political situation would not focus on whether or not Democrats have the message, the unity or the potential voters to fully capitalize on recent Republicans difficulties, because whatever message or unity they have displayed to this point has clearly been enough to build them leads in polls that we have not seen for a generation. Clearly, whatever they have done on that front, it has been good enough. An accurate, up to date narrative would reasonably and rightful question whether or not Democrats have the resources to actually turn this newly emerged, potential governing majority into an actual majority at the ballot box. Democrats are behind in fundraising. They are way behind in alternative media. They lag behind in sophisticated GOTV operations. They lag in data mining and voter targeting. Basically, Democrats lag behind Republicans in virtually every aspect of political machinery, and if the dominant, CW narrative on the 2006 elections is to accurately reflect the reality of the political situation, the main question of that narrative must be whether or not this gap faced by Democrats will be enough to keep them from turning the best chance to win a landslide election in over a decade into a reality.

Asking this question will no doubt be difficult for those individuals who have the most control over the direction of the CW. This is primarily because it will force people to actually talk about the progressive activist base as playing a, if not the, critical role in an election. Since the rise of the DLC and the "third way" the progressive activst base, which actually delivers the money and the volunteer hours to the Democratic Party has been all but eliminated from the national political discourse. Given this, suddenly talking about whether or not the progressive activist base is motivated enough in 2006 to fill the obvious holes Democrats have in terms of political machinery as the key issue in the 2006 elections will be extremely difficult for the established, CW-generating punditacracy. For months, if not years, we have been subjected to nearly endless discussions of whether or not Bush is losing the conservative base or of how the conservative activist base won the 2004 election for Bush. For at least as long, we have been subjected to nearly endless discussions concerning whether or not Democrats can possibly create a message that appeals to swing voters, to moderates, and to independents. While we have these nearly endless discussions that turn into narratives that focus upon conservatives and independents, what we never really hear much about is whether or not the progressive activist base is sufficiently motivated to engage in the sort of activism that is necessary for Democrats and progressives to actually win at the ballot box. However, with enormous Democratic leads among independents established for nine months now, whether or not the progressive base is sufficiently motivated to help Democrats close the machinery gap is in fact the main question for Election 2006. Are progressive activists sufficiently fired up in 2006 to deliver the money, the GOTV, the volunteer hours, the media and even the votes that the Democratic Party and Democratic candidates have come to rely upon during elections? That is an important question, but I can't say right now if anyone really has an answer for it, because quite frankly the progressive activist base has been all but excluded from national discussions of the 2006 elections.

It is time for that to end. With Democrats holding huge leads in the polls as a result of a massive "Indycrat" wave, the level of motivation among the progressive activist base is now the key issue of the upcoming elections. It is time for people to recognize this and start talking about this. As difficult it may be for many people to get used to, it is time for progressives to take center stage in the national political discussion once again. Are these activists motivated enough to fill the gaps Democrats face in terms of political machinery? Just reading the progressive political blogosphere for one day should reveal that it is not at all clear whether or not progressive activists have the motivation necessary to sweat and bleed for Democratic candidates in 2006. Looking at a Pew poll form last year that showed Democrats only giving a 49% approval rating to Democratic leaders in congress should show that a motivated progressive base is not a guarantee. Looking at Gallup data that suggests a 10 points swing away from Democrats and toward Republicans when polls shift from registered voters to likely voters should show that a high level of motivation among the progressive base is not a guarantee.

People need to start asking what makes progressive activists tick. What makes them give their money and time? What issues motivate them? What do they look for in their leaders? Whether or not Democrats can answer these questions will go a long way toward determining what will happen in 2006. Whether or not pundits ask this question will determine how connected they are to political reality. The motivation level of the progressive activist base holds the key to the 2006 elections. In 2004, we were subjected to endless discussions on conservative values voters. Given the new political landscape, it is about time we start having real discussions on who progressive "values voters" are, and just what it is that they want. It is time for the election narrative to change, and it is time for it to focus on the progressive activist base.



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Good questions as always Chris (none / 0)

This progressive activist is none to motivated at the moment. It's only been a week though. I'm holding on to my thoughts of going back to being a blissfully ignorant Bears fan right now, but holding off of making any commitment to swan song diaries at the moment.

But if Grossman is healthy...


Witty comment goes here...
by michael in chicago on Tue Mar 28, 2006 at 04:20:54 PM EST

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Amen to that Chris. Amen.


by redstar66 on Tue Mar 28, 2006 at 04:49:01 PM EST

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Speaking of 2006, I'm surprised there hasn't been any comment on this site about the retirement of congressman Lane Evans (D), who currently holds the 17th congressional district of Illinois.  It's my understanding that since the primary has already passed, the local Democratic party will select the democrat for the ballet.  The GOP has nominated someone named Zinga, who I don't know much about.  Evans beat Zinga 61-39 in 2004 as Kerry was edging Bush in the district 51-48.  If anyone has any information about this district, now would be a good time to share.  


by Mose on Tue Mar 28, 2006 at 05:52:43 PM EST
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Posted on Breaking Blue about 4 hours before your comment under the title "Lane Evans Out."


by David Kowalski on Wed Mar 29, 2006 at 03:37:34 AM EST
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by liaozhi123 on Thu Apr 27, 2006 at 01:56:48 AM EST
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The problem is candidates to rile up the base. There are only two worth a damn right now and they are Ned Lamont in Connecticut and Jonathan Tasini, who is running for Senate from New York.

Maybe we should put a "fake" issue out there to rile up the progressives. Let me explain: the Republicans got crazy over the gay marriage ban; what if we put something on the ballots about banning a specific minority group from, say, getting married? It'll never hold up and won't pass anyway, but moreover it will get Democrats in swing states out to the polls, especially the large minority group that would be affected.


by brianjf on Tue Mar 28, 2006 at 05:16:33 PM EST

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I'm pretty sure that issues is censure.


by js noble on Tue Mar 28, 2006 at 07:28:55 PM EST
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Even better, a real issue like raising the minimum wage, imposing a fair share tax on Wal-Mart, an environmental issue like tax incentives promoting fuel effficiency in cars, something along one of those lines.  This way, you have people thinking of a positive things that liberals are doing, you hopefully get the initiative itself passed, and you help your candidates out, as well.  Kill three birds with one stone.


John McCain
by DanM on Tue Mar 28, 2006 at 07:29:05 PM EST
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The best issue to rally around for 2006... (none / 0)

Total disdain for Bush.  

Like Newt said, our motto should be something on the order of  "Had enough?"  It motivates BOTH the independents, and the activist base.  

This guy is radical, incompetent, and increasingly disliked.  I think if Congressional Democrats can SELL themselves as a hedge against Bush, they will get both the activists and the independents out to vote, and will prevail.  


by paul minot on Tue Mar 28, 2006 at 05:21:33 PM EST

Re: The best issue to rally around for 2006... (none / 0)

The Demos only platform should be a vote for me is a vote against Bu$hCo the whole rotten mess. Nothing more. People get it now. After Katrina the Indeps. swung heavily away from Bu$h and Bu$hism. They now see that this guy and his admin. is a total fraud and can't deliver when it counts. That destroyed his credibility on Nat'l security. Then the Dubai Ports deal sealed that perception and even cost Bu$h some of his base no less. The Spying issue also resonates with the Indeps. and the Libertarian part of Bu$h's base as well. The D's have to make this mid-term referendum on BU$H. They also shouldn't fear Iraq or  Bu$h's so called War on terror either. They should make it clear to the voters that Bu$h's so called un-declared endless war on terror is nothing more or less then an end run around the Constitution and that the Repub. Congress each and every last member of it is basically allowing this man to declare himself Emperor with this phony war ploy. I don't think that a finely crafted message along these lines will hurt the D's this fall. The D's can also throw in the RX medicare debacle to rally support from retirees who are furious about that mess as well. The problem for the D's isn't material it's focus.


by Blutodog on Wed Mar 29, 2006 at 08:52:19 AM EST
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I love that idea. A well-done series of ads with the "Had enough?" theme - a la "Got milk?" -- would get everyone talking and excited.


The truth about McCain
by nstrauss on Wed Mar 29, 2006 at 10:33:57 AM EST
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Stop going to the "center" (3.00 / 0)

If Democrats want to get progressives rallying behind them, they need to get rid of the idea of a political center.  The only time you compromise liberal values is when you need to compromise to pass a bill, not when you speak to the public.  I'm only 20, so I'm ignorant to how this might change if Democrats were to gain control of a house of congress.  If they retook the House or Senate, and started to stand firm on liberal issues, and stand against Republican bills (such as the Patriot Act), I would have much more support for Democrats.  Until then, I'll give them my strong support, and see how they handle being the majority.


by John Nicosia on Tue Mar 28, 2006 at 05:45:30 PM EST

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YES, YES, YES!

Given a choice between a republican or a fake republican they'll chose the republican every time. Stop being ashamed of being liberal and be liberal.


by shirt on Tue Mar 28, 2006 at 08:39:55 PM EST
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Let's get it on (3.00 / 1)

It's not the President, damn'it!  It is no single personality in the Republican Party.  It is the Republican Party.  All of them.  The entire party.  They have screwed us to the wall.  Our focus must be on the party...locally, nationally and around the clock.  It's the Republican Party.


by sergeantmajor on Tue Mar 28, 2006 at 05:49:54 PM EST

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Your right kind of but Bu$h is a powerful symbol of all that's wrong in that party and making him the focus of voter discontent is not a bad thing. I think turning the fall mid-terms into an anti-Bu$hism referendum is the key to victory. Most if not all of the rethug. candidates are totally connected to Bu$h and his policies and will have an incredibily hard time distancing themselves from this man and his regime. Trying to run against the Rethug party is just too un-focused. You have to remember the voters aren't particuliarly thrilled with the Demos. many polls show the voters seeing the Demos. as "weak,"  so comparison shopping I don't think is that great an idea. Going against Bu$h and Bu$hism is the ticket to victory.


by Blutodog on Wed Mar 29, 2006 at 08:58:57 AM EST
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What Makes Progressive Activists Tick??? (3.00 / 2)

I would love to know what makes other progressive activists tick because I read stuff here that just doesn't make sense.  I am not the biggest Bill Clinton fan but I look at his record and it was pretty progressive.  Yet he is often derided as Republican lite.  I wish he had accomplished more but look at some of the progressive things he did:

1 - Made the first attempt at universal health care coverage in more than 20 years and when that failed he succeeded in the enacting the Children's Health Insurance program, the first major health coverage expansion since Medicare and Medicaid.

2 - A big expansion of the Earned Income Tax Credit, a major help for the working poor.

3 - Increasing the top income tax bracket while lowering taxes on the middle class.

4 - Expansion of college student aid.

5 - 2 increases in the minimum wage.

6 - Establishment of preventive care coverage under Medicare coverage.

7 -  Major expansion and protection of public lands and national parks.

8 - Strong environmental protections including having the US participate in the Kyoto protocol negotiations.

9 - AmeriCorps, a domestic Peace Corps which has people volunteer for a year or two at home and earn money for college.  I have first hand experience with this program through a volunteer organization and it is amazing.

10 - Pushed for peace in both the Middle East and the Balkins.

11 - Protected abortion rights by vetoing partial birth abortion bills and lifting the gag order at federally funded family planning clinics.

I wish Bill Clinton had enacted New Deal and Great Society programs but he learned how to make a pretty major impact through incremental change.  I know many deride that but I think it shows tremendous skill and commitment to progressive beliefs.  

Compare this record with the past 5 years.


by John Mills on Tue Mar 28, 2006 at 05:54:08 PM EST

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It is indeed he accomplished so much with a hostile Congress.  People who bemoan Clinton need to realize that "revolutionary" Democrats like Roosevelt and Johnson had overwhelming majorities in the Congress.


McCain is defining Obama, and Obama is neither defining himself, nor McCain. This is awful.
by jgarcia on Tue Mar 28, 2006 at 06:49:29 PM EST
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Absolutely correct.  I have always been mad at him over Monica, not because I cared about the affair, but because he had the Repubs on the run in 1997 and 1998.  The 1997 budget bill was almost all Clinton's with a few bones thrown here and there to the Repubs.  Rather than use political capital in 1998 to enact even more progressive changes, he had to use it to save his own hide.  I always think about what might have been.  


by John Mills on Tue Mar 28, 2006 at 07:42:24 PM EST
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Hear hear!  What many don't seem to realize is that idealists don't make effective leaders just because they agree with us on everything.  Sometimes it's better to actually help people by instituting incremental change rather than fighting to the death for a policy that just goes down in flames.  I think Clinton -the natural politician he is- learned that pretty quickly with the demise of his health care proposal (he was oft-quoted in the '92 campaign as saying he would make a good president because he worked well with the Republicans in Arkansas, no way do I think he and Hillary were prepared for the nastiness of Washington in the 90's).  So he stopped making the grandstands that we might all applaud here online but instead formed a new strategy, constantly outplaying the GOP Congress at every turn (even when he had no cards to play) and instituting much needed progressive measures that have in fact made this world and this country a better place.   We could definately use someone with his talent and his concern for the details of policy and their effect on the everyman in office today.


by Ryan Anderson on Wed Mar 29, 2006 at 02:45:59 AM EST
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Well said.  


by John Mills on Wed Mar 29, 2006 at 09:58:16 AM EST
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He participated in Kyoto but he refused to sign off on it.  The average gas milage of the American vehicle went down dramatically during the Clinton suv age and Clinton lost no sleep over it.  He comptletely abandoned national health insurance after 94 and the reason it never passed is because he was creating a big hmo instead of true single payer system.    He signed the 1996 telecommunications act which is why the press is becoming more consolidated and right wing.  His wing, is still proposing reeducating workers in response to outsourcing. That is clueless.  The workers that are losing there jobs are educated workers with up to date skills, they are just not working as cheap as the Indians.  The arctic is literally, melting and we need someone much bolder than Clinton.


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by Dameocrat on Wed Mar 29, 2006 at 02:40:02 PM EST
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Great post, Chris!

What motivates the progressive activist base? Iraq withdrawal; repeal of CAFTA, NAFTA and China MFN; hemispheric living wage; repeal of bankruptcy reform and aggressive legislative attack on banking and credit card industries; public financing of elections; mandatory paper ballots; repeal of country club tax writeoffs; mandatory health care; censure and/or impeachment of Bush.


by mildewmaximilian on Tue Mar 28, 2006 at 06:11:05 PM EST

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Too bad Clinton and Feinstein are running at the top of the big state tickets.


by mildewmaximilian on Tue Mar 28, 2006 at 06:12:01 PM EST
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And what base is that? (3.00 / 1)

So, if I understand this piece correctly, on the one hand, we have a president as despised by the vanguard of the opposing party as Clinton was. (If that can be conceived of.)

And on the other hand, said vanguard who won't get out of bed for less than [insert Red meat here].

Some cheer for GOP operatives there, at least!

What's happened to the 50 State Strategy? The yellow dog Democracy?

We have an opportunity to observe Dem MCs and their leaders at work every day. (Well, every legislative day, which is rather fewer!) These are not people about to embrace a radical program. No way, no how.

Feingold had a teeny tiny res. And Senate Dems scattered like a convoy that's spied a U-boat.

Let's put on the table what progressive activists might be looking for by way of motivation.

As far as policies go, I'd hope that at the top of list would be universal health care. Only half a century or so late. The least a progressive would want.

Not a snowball's chance in hell of this appearing in the (so far mythical) Dem Contract with America, Emanuel's upcoming tract, or in the public pronouncements of any but a handful of Dem MCs. (Except as a pious hope, or long-term commitment.)

Harry and Louise will not be denied!

Perhaps Dem activists would settle for something less radical. I'd genuinely like to know what.

Or perhaps it's not policy but status and power in the organization they'd be after. I'm not sure how that might be done - the inner workings of Dem alphabet soup is a mystery to me! - but I'd be damned sure the existing powers in the party would fight tooth and nail against any such encroachment.

So any sort of activist ultimatum to the party will more than likely fail. Leaving activists the choice of working to support the status quo, or sitting on their hands.

I'd be concerned that some Dem activists seem to have an inadequate grasp of the task before them and the time likely to be needed for its completion.

If you take the GOP for comparison, there were 16 years from the defeat of Goldwater to the victory of Reagan; and another 14 years before control of Congress was finally won. Thirty years in all. And 66 years since the last election in which they retained control of both houses.

The Dems lost control of both houses just 12 years ago.

To take the discussion further, we surely need some better idea about who the Dem activists are. Are they, indeed, as the piece implies, all or mostly progressive (whatever that means)? I'd have thought that a fair proportion of union members (who you might hope would be more likely to be activists than the average Dem voter) would class themselves as centrists or moderates.

And have the activists (as opposed to Dem voters in general, or particular ethnic groups) actually been polled on their policy preferences and desires for organizational change?

And where are they? I suspect that they are disproportionately in solid blue districts; and that the mechanisms to make effective use of them are lacking.

Finally, isn't there a disconnect between the idea of a progressive activist group and the sort of precinct and county-up organization that is needed for sustained Dem success up and down the ballot, and which I'm assuming the Dean plan to renew state parties is designed to put in place?

In many counties, wouldn't a lot of the people willing and able to play active roles in running for office, campaigning and setting up year-round activities fight shy of identifying themselves by that label?


by skeptic06 on Tue Mar 28, 2006 at 06:36:43 PM EST

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"As far as policies go, I'd hope that at the top of list would be universal health care. Only half a century or so late. The least a progressive would want.

"Not a snowball's chance in hell of this appearing in the (so far mythical) Dem Contract with America, Emanuel's upcoming tract, or in the public pronouncements of any but a handful of Dem MCs. (Except as a pious hope, or long-term commitment.)
"

Amen squared.


by redstar66 on Tue Mar 28, 2006 at 08:33:09 PM EST
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What progressive activist base? (3.00 / 2)

These kinds of self-absorbed proclamations that you see on the blogs are so out of touch with reality it's hard to know where to begin.  Who are these "progressive activists", Chris?  And are you sure they are a huge part of the Democratic base?  Would you call the average working class African American voter a "progressive activist"?  Where's the polling data that suggests this?

The Daily Kos gets about 500,000 visits per day, according to SiteMeter.  Putting aside the question of whether it's tracking dynamic IP addresses, let's just say that the netroots is roughly about 1 million strong -- this includes those who visit Kos once a week or what have you.  At the end of 2005, MoveOn boasts 3.3 million members.  Another way of looking at activists is John Kerry's mailing list.  People who are politically engaged give money -- and most liberal activists donated at least some change to Kerry.  Kerry has a mailing list of 3 million. Given the overlap between MoveOn, Kos, and Kerry's mailing list, there's likely no more than 5 million netroots types right now, broadly defined.

Let's stipulate to a 2006 mid-term turnout of 100 million voters, a reasonable estimate given past voting patterns.  The netroots would constitute no more than 5 percent of the population.  What you're essentially saying is that energizing these folks -- who by definition are the most politically aware and active segment of the population -- is key?

I'm no fan of the DC consulting class, but they're at least not prone to advice focusing only on themselves.  Believe it or not, the priority for Democrats should not be to energize people like me (Kossack, Kerry campaign and ACT/MoveOn/ACLU/NPR/etc. donor).  We are not great in number and we will vote anyway.  

Let's look at a Pew's comprehensive study into voter typology.  We find that "liberals" -- a major segment of the Democratic base -- is roughly 19% of registered voters.  60% of liberals follow current events closely.  If you work out the math, that's about 16 million Americans who are self-professed liberal news-followers.  The netroots are a segment of that larger pool of liberal voters -- not all of them "activist" -- that needs to be energized.  

But mroe than that, you also need to energize what Pew types as "disadvantaged Democrats" who are about 10% of all registered voters and the other part of the Democratic base (both "liberals" and disadvantage Democrats voted for Kerry over Bush by roughly 80 points).  These are single working class women, ethnic minorities, the dues-paying union guy, young and jobless types.  14 million or so voters can be described as "disadvantaged Democrats."  I'd worry more about mobilizing them than activists.  

What's that MyDD post about the insularity of blogosphere conventional wisdom?


by PigsandBattleships on Tue Mar 28, 2006 at 06:44:42 PM EST

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I don't think the question is whether or not we'll vote- the question is whether we're enthused enough to make sure 10 people come with us when we do vote. Since we already have a 10 point lead on the generic ballot the question is whether we have the machine that can turn that lead into electoral victory. Since we don't have the money or the media to match the right the way we can turn those numbers into a victory is a huge ground operation. The only way that operation happens is if the activist base is actually put to work.- at least thats how I understand the argument.


by js noble on Tue Mar 28, 2006 at 07:36:38 PM EST
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Re: What progressive activist base? (3.00 / 3)

If you are not enthused to stop this administration after 5 years, then I don't know what to tell you.  

The machine to turn people out to vote is largely an organizational thing, something we have fallen horribly behind on.  People on the net are an important part of the political process but we are not ordinary voters.  We are far more informed and far more passionate about issues.  Most people do not pay attention to elections until about 3-4 weeks before them.  I use my non-political friends and co-workers as sounding boards to get an idea of what people are really thinking.

What is clear right now is that the electorate is in a sour mood and if things don't change, they will vote to throw out the bums.


by John Mills on Tue Mar 28, 2006 at 07:51:49 PM EST
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Re: What progressive activist base? (3.00 / 3)

The machine to turn people out to vote is largely an organizational thing, something we have fallen horribly behind on.

Exactly.  Dean and the DNC understand this, and have been working their asses off in getting the state organizations up to date.  Emanuel is trying to get their voter database up to date to keep up the GOP operation.  It took years for the GOP to catch up and surpass the Democratic machine, and it'll take years -- allocating resources to the right organizations -- to catch up.  Looks like they're getting their act together.

Effective GOTV is the result of a good operation and  a lot of cash.  Passion and energy of activists help in that you can get more volunteers and small-donor contributions, but it's only one part of a much larger picture.  

A much more important factor, as you've alluded to, is just the political climate.  When my political junkie friends start saying good things about Democrats standing up against Bush -- well, I've heard those guys get excited before.
When my apolitical co-workers are dissing Bush in casual lunch conversation, I know the GOP is in trouble.  


by PigsandBattleships on Tue Mar 28, 2006 at 09:45:01 PM EST
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Re: What progressive activist base? (3.00 / 3)

No, I get the argument.  It just appears to contradict reality, and even contradicts what's often stated on MyDD (see Ciro Rodriguez postmortem).  

Contrary to blog triumphist rhetoric, Dean's "Perfect Storm" in Iowa was totally overmatched by Kerry's conventional GOTV operation, ACT was overmatched by Rove's fundie operation, etc.  There are endless examples of the limitations of activism.

Which is not to say something like internet activism isn't important; it is.  Last week we saw how effective blogs are as a media watchdog by exposing Ben Domenech's habitual plagiarism.  We know blogs are pretty good at focusing attention on neglected issues and local races, and quite good at fundraising.

What the netroots activists haven't been able to do is affect the electoral preferences in a substantial way, mainly because the majority of voters aren't swayed by activists.  Like other blog denizens, I prefer Feingold and Clark to Hillary Clinton.  Yet polls of Democratic voters show Hillary way out front and Feingold and Clark in the low single digits.  You would think if "progressive activists" are so important, our preferences would register more in national polls.  

It's important to think constructive and clearly about what blogs are good for and what they're not good for, and where activism can be effective and where it won't be.

And while this activist chain reaction idea sounds great in a blog post, but what are we actually talking about in real life?  Something like this?  In May 2006, Dems push and fail to win on censure.  Due to this demonstration of backbone, you, the activist, are now so energized that you'll spend your days talking four otherwise apathetic voters into voting for Dems on election day?  

Do you see how absurd these arguments are?  It's an example of pundit's fallacy, the idea that your political preferences also happen to be what's  politically most effective.  

In 2004, Bush and Rove didn't focus solely or primarily on turning out the base.  What they did was create a two-pronged strategy where Bush himself would try to fearmonger swing voters by talking about 9/11 and being tough on terror, while a less visible operation behind the scenes -- in churches, via talk radio, etc. -- energize the base.  Much has been made about the rise in fundie voters, but Bush would've lost had he not increased support among Latinos and white married women.  

Moreover, it's easier for the GOP to turn out the base generally because authoritarian-type of Republican (dittoheads, fundies) are much more obedient to authority figures like a talk radio host or church leader than Democrats.  So the GOP is an imperfect model.  Dems need an alternative model, perhaps one suggested by Kos and Jerome in CRASHING THE GATES.  

Ah, I see that someone gave me a troll rating for not drinking the "Dems must pander to me!" Kool Aid.  How very Red State of you, whoever you are.


by PigsandBattleships on Tue Mar 28, 2006 at 09:14:20 PM EST
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Re: What progressive activist base? (3.00 / 2)

"In 2004, Bush and Rove didn't focus solely or primarily on turning out the base.  What they did was create a two-pronged strategy where Bush himself would try to fearmonger swing voters by talking about 9/11 and being tough on terror, while a less visible operation behind the scenes -- in churches, via talk radio, etc. -- energize the base."

Excellent analysis.  I have always said the Dems lost the election over 9/11 fearmongering much more than religious values.


by John Mills on Tue Mar 28, 2006 at 11:08:06 PM EST
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Re: What progressive activist base? (none / 0)

There is more to the typography depicted here than meets the eye. You have a number of classes of groups utterly turned off to politics in varying degrees. When these folks turn out, CW goes right out the window.

We saw this in MN in 1998 when Jesse Ventura won the governorship.

There are ways of connecting with voters who do not typically vote.

I suspect your advertizing isn't going to get to these people. You need to deliver, something Democrats simply are not good at.

"In May 2006, Dems push and fail to win on censure.  Due to this demonstration of backbone, you, the activist, are now so energized that you'll spend your days talking four otherwise apathetic voters into voting for Dems on election day?"

A straw man if ever I saw one. There is far more to dissatisfaction with the Dems than this.

The scenario is more "In May 2006, Dems push and fail to win on censure.  Due to this demonstration of backbone, you, the activist, are now made somewhat less apathetic about the party that has ignored and/or disrespected your pov for the past half-dozen or so election cycles. Consequently, you think you'll swallow the DLC sales pitch that their centrist candidate is the lesser of two evils and somehow closer to you values than the GOP candidate, and pull the Dem lever once again, against your better judgment".

That's the more likely scenario.


by redstar66 on Wed Mar 29, 2006 at 06:32:42 AM EST
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The triumph of marketing and hype (none / 0)

...We saw this in MN in 1998 when Jesse Ventura won the governorship...

Minnesota - same day voter registration and a lot of hype. Getting elected isn't the same as governing competently - witness dubya. As if Jesse Ventura had a successful turn at the helm...


543,895 votes
by Michael Bersin on Wed Mar 29, 2006 at 08:56:24 AM EST
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Re: The triumph of marketing and hype (none / 0)

That wasn't the point.

Getting disaffected voters involved was. Which is clearly something the Dems are not very good at.


by redstar66 on Wed Mar 29, 2006 at 09:55:40 AM EST
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Re: The triumph of marketing and hype (3.00 / 1)

You seem to view "disaffected voters" as a homogenous bloc, subject to being motivated en masse.   Disaffected voters are all over the map and what gains traction with one fragment repels another.  Look at the centrifigal force operating among the Perotistas...once they got beyond "No to the two big parties," they had little to keep them together.


by InigoMontoya on Wed Mar 29, 2006 at 11:18:59 AM EST
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Re: The triumph of marketing and hype (none / 0)

Not at all. I'm fully aware of the fact that non-voters are a very diverse bunch.

But look at it this way: over 60% of the voting age public do not vote in non-presidential federal elections, cycle in and cycle out.

Keeping this number in mind, and scanning the Pew typologies referred to above, one sees fairly quickly that 10% of folks never vote, period (bystanders), they'd rather play Game Cube.

That leaves 50% of the voting age public which sometimes vote but don't bother voting all the time. And I'd be willing to bet that, again to borrow Pew's topologies, disadvantaged Democrats are disproportionately represented among these 50% of non-voters.

I'd further wager that, given the spread between LV and RV polls which skew against Democratic election-day performance, disadvantaged Dems are not the only folks who stay at home. I'm guessing quite a few liberals do too. (After all, it's hard to get excited enough to go vote for a DLC GOP-lite candidate when there's a good hockey game on.) These are the voters who could be moved by restoring Democratic values to the heart of the Democratic party. This is the constituency I'm talking about, and if you think there's no problem there for the Democrats, you're fooling yourself, again, just check the RV vs LV spread and ask yourself how this could be?

Of course, there are lots of other kinds of tuned-out voters who would likely not be moved by a conscious move back to progressive policies and rhetoric, but it's not obvious they're an easy target for the GOP. In any event, the GOP is locked in to their message, at least until '08, and it's pretty obvious they've tapped out whatever inroads they might've made with such voters.

Third parties can turn these guys out too, in non-Presidential elections, as I said, we saw this in MN in '98.

End of day, core Dem turnout is not what core GOP turnout is, and this has been true the last few elections. The CW on this is that the Dems need to build as good a machine as the GOP in order to match their GOTV, etc, but I don't think this is as much true as that core Dem values voters don't think much of their party leadership (the polls support this, I'm clearly not the only dissatisfied lefty out there) and are discouraged, and therefore do not necessarily go the extra mile to vote when the time comes.

And turnout of your core supporters is just one part of the equation. Growing that pot of core supporters is the other. You do this by delivering accomplishments to that pot, something the Dems haven't been too great at the past coupla decades either.

Now, I would never predict the outcome of the coming race, but I do have one prediction I'm willing to make: record low turnout.


by redstar66 on Wed Mar 29, 2006 at 03:25:04 PM EST
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Re: What progressive activist base? (none / 0)

You think the Democratic party is fighting for these disadvantaged folks you refer to as "Democrats"?

I certainly don't.

'Cuz I think if you dig a litle deeper, this segment's voter participation rate is among the lowest of any class of potential voter. There are many reasons for this to be sure, but one primary reason is the "who cares" factor, and this is a direct result of Democratic neglect.

You are absolutely correct that energizing this group of voters would make it much easier for Democrats to win elections. The trouble is how to do this. And that is exactly where this article you are otherwise roundly critcising goes. For if you look at what fires up the activist base, I think you will find it is the same sorts of things that woud re-engage disadvantaged and disenfranchised folks from the process.

What might those things be? Things like Universal health care, or substantial unemployment insurance, comprehensive medical leave, maternity and paternity leave, guaranteed holiday pay, right to organize, gender pay equity, equal affordable access to post-secondary education, a minimum revenue for social insertion to help young people new to the job market get on their feet,
adequately funded public transportation, decent affordable housing, gov't-funded child-care schemes allowing greater gender-equity in the work force, civilian job corps with paying jobs, increase the minimum wage to a livable wage and index it to inflation, respect for gay rights, fundamental electoral reform that make it easier, not harder to vote.

Disagree with my list? Ok, fine, put your own out there. One thing's for sure with this class - GOTV is of limited use, and all the advertising money your corporate donor base gives you won't make much of a dent. You have to start delivering to these people, delivering REAL accomplishments (as left parties in every other OECD country have delivered to their bases in the past half-century, unlike the Democrats).

Or you can follow the route which aligns better with your corporate donor base's political interests, eg triangulation, and wooing the mythical centrist voter.


by redstar66 on Wed Mar 29, 2006 at 06:13:36 AM EST
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Re: What progressive activist base? (none / 0)

You are absolutely correct that energizing this group of voters would make it much easier for Democrats to win elections. The trouble is how to do this. And that is exactly where this article you are otherwise roundly critcising goes. For if you look at what fires up the activist base, I think you will find it is the same sorts of things that woud re-engage disadvantaged and disenfranchised folks from the process.

I actually agree with you.  One of the false dichotomies that both the establishment pundits and the blogosphere (like Chris) perpetuates is this:

Establishment: Dems need to woo swing voters by appearing moderate and talking about issues that matter to them.  The base can be taken for granted.

Blogosphere: Dems need to feed and care the base by engaging in a confrontational stance with the GOP; forget swing voters, who are overrated.  We won't stoop to DLC style triangulation to win over these voters.

In terms of raw numbers, a party can only prevail by wooing less engaged voters -- "swing"  or not.  That's why feeding and caring for the party's activist core has never been a strategy for any winning party.  You have to win over the less engaged, which may or may not be part of the "middle" (the less politically engaged tend to be so ideologically inconsistent it's impossible to pigeonhole them anyway).  One of the problems of political punditry and analysis is to believe that these less engaged voters can be wooed as a block -- they have discernible, rational motivations for voting.  

The more sophisticated studies into voter attitudes show that they don't.  Trying to sell them only on "issues" don't work.  Which is why the GOP uses corporate marketing techniques -- repetition, branding, appealing to gut reactions -- to woo voters.  The Dems, by being wishy-washy and incoherent, have fallen way behind on this score.  

In other words, having a clear, coherent, and strong message is vital to the Democratic chances because it helps Democrats with the less-politically engaged voters.  

This should all be part of a grand strategy, in which activists only play a (small if important) part.  


by PigsandBattleships on Wed Mar 29, 2006 at 03:58:25 PM EST
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Re: The 2006 election narrative should now focus o (3.00 / 1)

Good post Chris.

My interpretation of the generic ballot advantage and the Indycrat swing is slightly different. Its not that the Dems now have a message and unity that resonates better with the Independents. Its that the Independents are swinging away from Bush and Repub deceit, corruption and incompetence and are supporting the only alternative - the "mythical" Dem in the generic ballot. I am sure when there is a straight on Dem candidate vs Repub candidate poll in swing districts the results will be a lot closer.

The issue that I see is that this generic ballot advantage has the Dems DC leadership complacent and believing that all they need to do is sit back, not rock the boat and do anything that means taking a clear stand on principles or attacking the Repubs for all their FUBAR. The landslide opportunity will wither on the vine by Nov. And any chance of a Dem majority will be accidental rather than by design. The Dems activist base will not be as engaged as the Repub base who will take advantage of their superior political machinery and make a difference as they realize that it will be disaster for the remainder of the Bush term if the Dems win.

The only way for the Dems to energize their base is not by presenting progressive policy prescriptions and prove their superior wonkishness but for the Dems leadership to demonstrate character. That means standing up for principle now. That means going for the Repub jugular now. That means standing behind Murtha(Iraq) and Feingold(constitution) now. That means not giving the rubber-stamp Repub Congress a pass now. That means challenging Bush's lies now. That means campaigning for change now.

Can the Dems DC leadership and consultants demonstrate character and translate sentiment to ballot victory in Nov? We'll know that in the next couple months but as of today its going to be another wasted opportunity.


by ab initio on Tue Mar 28, 2006 at 06:48:40 PM EST

Re: The 2006 election narrative should now focus o (none / 0)

Why do the activists have to be progressive? Don't they just have to be pro-Dem or at least anti-Republican? I don't know that it's necessary for them to be particularly progressive at the same time...


by Lucas O'Connor on Tue Mar 28, 2006 at 06:55:53 PM EST

Our ground game is obsolete (3.00 / 1)

Chris made a point that ALL Dems have parroted for the past fifty years and we must change our way of thinking of the archaic idea of "election day" if we are to be successful.

Ironically, the Republicans have become MUCH more "progressive" when it comes to running campaigns.  I read "Crashing the Gate" and IIRC, i did not read ONE sentence of the importance of early voting and early money to have an effective early voting program.

In the past, Dems have successfully relied upon a superior "ground game."  Is it just a coincidence that since 1994 something like 25% of ALL votes in the country are now early and that percentage is growing?

In this instance, a great ground game isn't enough as the Ciro Rodriguez campaign proved.  Kos and others got into the game when the election was for all intents and purposes over with all the early votes that Rep. Cuellar already had in the bag.  

We need to focus on getting votes starting a MONTH before actual election day and realize that in a massive part of the country (the ENTIRE southwest and west coast and Texas and many others) election "day" is now a month long.

Democrats tend to be people who focus on elections later than Republicans do.  It's much easier to campaign vis-a-vis counting the votes when you already have many in the bag.  We have to change this.  We have to peak one month before the actual election day and have a ground game that starts in earnest one month before election day.  In this case, we MUST be off and running by October 1, 2006.  

How to accomplish this, I am open to ideas.  What are the best ways to do this?

Perhaps this shoudl have been a diary.  But, alas, I don't know how to do one yet.


McCain is defining Obama, and Obama is neither defining himself, nor McCain. This is awful.
by jgarcia on Tue Mar 28, 2006 at 07:01:22 PM EST

DC has the answers (none / 0)

Since the rise of the DLC and the "third way" the progressive activst base, which actually delivers the money and the volunteer hours to the Democratic Party has been all but eliminated from the national political discourse.

In 2006, the powers that be have decided you are wrong, they have the answer. Let the DLC decide what you stand for, they have all the answers.


by Bob Brigham on Tue Mar 28, 2006 at 07:10:17 PM EST

One Independent Voter (none / 0)

I'm a registered independent, and I think a large number of today's Washington Republicans should be in federal prison.


by Stuart Shaffer on Tue Mar 28, 2006 at 07:17:21 PM EST

Re: The 2006 election narrative should (3.00 / 1)

Brain food as always Chris.

Here is California I am really worried about voter fatigue.  We have not had an off year in a very long time, between the re-call and the special election last year.  We managed to do massive turnout for the special (turnout was over 50%) for a couple of ballot measures.  Hopefully, we can capture the voters interests again this year.  Given the lackluster campaigns of the Democrats so far, we may stuck relying on anti-Arnold to motivate voters and volunteers.  I am not sure if that will be enough.

The unions, whom I work for will be very active again.  We intend to extend our brand of teachers, nurses, cops and firefighters to the governors race.  Arnold will find himself dogged at fundraisers and the like and there will be ads.

There is general apathy of the Republican activist base, which gives us an even better chance to get Arnold out of office.  I have seen negative numbers on Arnold within his own party in the 30s and 40s.

It should be an interesting year as always in California politics.


by juls on Tue Mar 28, 2006 at 07:56:57 PM EST

Re: The 2006 election narrative should now focus o (none / 0)

I'll tell you what makes me tick, its posts like these.  Progressives want to feel that their leaders, analysts, politicians, et. are smart.  This was a smart realistic outline of the political and media landscape.  Keep this coming.  The posts coming out of dailykos, mydd, firedoglake, americablog, and on and on, have been so good lately.  They will energize the net base and spread the word.  Keep it coming.


by petercjack on Tue Mar 28, 2006 at 08:36:20 PM EST

La Puebla Unida Jamás Será Vencida! (3.00 / 1)

[The People United Will Never Be Defeated!]

Don't look now, but the answer my friend is blowin in the wind. The echoes of last Saturday's massive march in Los Angeles are still reverberating, and will continue to reverberate for months, and years to come.

Yesterday, close to a thousand high school students marched past my window (sorry, no digital photos), part of a massive LA Area walkout that totalled roughly 40,000 students.  There were about 2,000 in Long Beach alone, according to the school district spokesperson.  Today, there was another Long Beach walkout--down to about 1,000.  This is, without doubt the epicenter of grassroots passion at this point in the electoral cycle.

What's a body block in the way of a key element of the GOP strategy for this year.  You see, the GOP was all set to run an anti-immigrant campaign this year.  In 2002 it was "Iraq=bin Laden."  In 2006 the formula plan was "Mexico=bin Laden."

As is always the case, part of this calculus was that the Dems would split from the top.  But with the massive show of force seen here this weekend, I think that even D.C. insiders have gotten the message--as seen in the Senate Committee vote yesterday.  The tide has shifted, "big time" as War Criminal #2 would say.  And this is what we have to capitalize on.

Or rather, let me put it this way: The train is leaving the station. It's up to us to jump on.  The Democratic leadership has done its best to give us timid, crippled, self-defeating campaign.  They have fought the grass roots tooth and nail.  But in the end, they will prove helpless in the face of a tidal wave.  And the LA march last Saturday was evidence of such a wave.  It was not the wave itself.  It was not even the first such massive march.  Weeks before, 300,000 turned out in Chicago and was virtually ignored.  No, these two marches, and the many, many other ones, some in places that had never seen anything similar before, they are all just surface manifestations of the wave.

Other Aspects

Another aspect of the wave is the simple fact that organized labor has, for several years now, reoriented itself to embrace the wave, to welcome and support immigrant labor.  This was a very difficult change to make, but the change has been made.  It's here to stay.

Another aspect: before the anti-War marches of the weekend before, there was a long march up the California coast of Latino peace activists--veteran and Gold Star lead.

This is a convergence happening.  Should I go on?  How about the environment?  California has the worst air in the nation. (A recent report said NY was worst, but they didn't count diesel, and our diesel situation is much, much worse.)  And the worst air in California is that breathed by Latinos.  And the fatest-growing constituency of environmental concern, and outright activists is the Latino community--whether it's around the diesel-drenched ports of LA and Long Beach, or the transportation corridors leading away from them to East LA, East LA itself, or the corridors leading from there to the Inland Empire, every step of the way, it's Latinos bearing the brunt of it.  And it's brining them together like nobody's business.  And I haven't even started talking about what's happening in the Central Valley.

What's next?  Health care?  Well, I think you're starting to get the picture.  What we're talking about here is not identity politics in the old fashioned sense.  Rather, it's a culturally-organized or culturally-informed politics that integrates with every major issue area imagineable.  It's incredibly rich and complex.  And America hasn't seen anything like it, really, since McCarthyism put an end to the era that began with similar such politics in the Eastern- and Cenral-European worker influx of the post Civil War era.

Yes, folks, it's a veritable reincarnation of the multi-generational dynamic that culminated in 70 years of Democratic dominance, 1932-1994. And the folks in charge of our party can only delay it for so long, before it washes them away.

Yes, I know. The focus here is on this election, as well it should be.  But I'm not speaking to the DC Dems.  I'm speaking to a cross-section of folks who are the sort of progressive activists whose enthusiasm for the long-term future can help inspire them for a short-term fight that they otherwise find far less inspiring than it should be.

Once we realize the promise ahead of us, beyond 2006, we can commit to winning in 2006, confident that it's just a first step that will lead to places we can't possibly yet imagine.


by Paul Rosenberg on Tue Mar 28, 2006 at 09:15:33 PM EST

Re: The 2006 election narrative (none / 0)

Good, good questions! I, for one, am fired up by progressive discourse and action such mydd, dKos, and Stand up Dems like Feingold. I'm completely turned off by the third way which smacks more of marketing than substance. imho Open Politics! Open it up! People are truly hungry, at this point, for honest and open policy.

Keep up the good work energizing the base!


by PurityOfEssence on Tue Mar 28, 2006 at 09:35:52 PM EST

2006 Narrative? The New Deal worked. (none / 0)

The modern Conservative-Reaganite movement has thrived for 26 plus years by depicting entitlements as some miserable failure that may seem to be delivering benefits now but will crash and burn in decades to come. Social Security has been the whipping boy.

Well my friends there is an pretty large chance that we can turn that narrative right around in the next four days. The 2006 Annual Report of the Trustees of Social Security is due by Friday and absent some major, major book cooking and even with some major book cooking some things will become obvious. Its not broke. At all.

'FDR is a hero, Reagan is a zero', now that is a slogan. And we have a chance to drive that home in the strongest possible terms: Social Security overfunded going forwards, General Fund facing deficits "as far as the eye can see".

Wonky policy details at the Econoblogs, I am just asking you to put your political campaign hats on and explore how "Republicans have been lying to you on Social Security. Just like they did on Iraq" might work if we could seriously back it up.

And we can. We have the numbers and will have more by the end of the week. Roll it around on your tongue: "FDR is a hero, Reagan is a zero, progressive taxation, and Single Payer"

DLCer's will be having a stroke about right now. But who here really cares about the tender sensibilities of those people who have lost us three elections because they fundamentally stood for nothing more than Bush-Lite.

Make the case for Social Security and then unleash your Inner FDR on the lying bastards at Cato and elsewhere who insist that Social Security is broke. It isn't and we have the numbers.


by Bruce Webb on Tue Mar 28, 2006 at 10:41:18 PM EST

Huh?? (3.00 / 1)

Since when have the Repubs successfully run against Social Security or Medicare in the past 20+ years?  They may throw some comments out to their base but everytime they have touched on changing either Social Security and Medicare it has hurt them.  See the 1986, 1996 and upcoming 2006 elections.  There seems to be a 10 year pattern here.

I think SS and Medicare are great programs that should be strengthened but we need to add some new ideas to the mix.  The Dem brand looks old and weak constantly falling back on these programs.  We need to also speak to the problems of people who are not eligible for these programs.  One thought I have had is to make Energy Independence a key part of any Dem platform.


by John Mills on Wed Mar 29, 2006 at 09:55:10 AM EST
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Winning Motivates Me (3.00 / 2)

Would I love to have a progressive perfect candidate every time, yes.  Life don't work that way.

So no matter who is running, I MOTIVATE ME.  Because me not working makes the country worse, a democrat not winning makes the country worse.

I don't need to be motivated by someone else, I don't need to be called or emailed, I don't have to have my ass kissed at events or fundraisers.

I get of my butt and go kick ass so Democrats win!  Period, no other motivation needed.


http://www.johnedwards.com/nh
by epv72 on Tue Mar 28, 2006 at 10:49:12 PM EST

Re: The 2006 election narrative should now focus o (3.00 / 2)

I'm scratching my head, Chris.  You applaud the rise of the Indycrat bloc, driven by Bush's ineptitude and just being plain flat wrong on Iraq more than anything else, and then you call for a Progressive-oriented 2006 narrative, is something that matters mostly to the 10 percent of the Democratic party that talks to itself so much that they believe they're the dominant force.

The Democrats win if they nationalize campaigns around "Had enough of Bush?"

The Democrats win if they promote issues that connect with at least a pluralilty of voters, such as health care.

The Democrats win if they are perceived as responsible in their anti-Iraq stance...and make things harder if they look irresponsible.  Cf., John Murtha vs. Cindy Sheehan.

For more than 30 years, there's been a delusion among Democrats that passion can trump numbers.   Mostly that's wrong.  An analogy is which gives more heat to a luke-warm tub of water:  one cup of boiling water or 10 gallons of water at 120 degrees.

The idea of someone dismissing Bill Clinton and the like as "Republican lite" when a) he was the only Dem to win the White House in the last quarter century and b) in comparison to the malign polices of the present so-called administration he was not just an island, but a continent of blue sanity, is beyond me...must be the lack of parallax vision at an extreme distance.

With just a couple of exceptions--Rodgriquez over Cuellar was one, Lamont over Lieberman (the Jewish Zell Miller) is another--Democrats should cease the intramural funks until they have the luxury of a majority.  If your "side" loses a primary, whichever side you're on, suck it up and remember the common enemy.

The "Clean for Gene" purists who sat home in '68 brought us Richard Nixon...and no matter what reservations one may have had about Hubert Humphrey, they were nothing next to Richard Nixon.  I've never forgiven them [those who sat home on election day].

If getting rid of the Republicans isn't sufficient motivation to get your ass activated, what have you been experiencing for the past five years?


by InigoMontoya on Tue Mar 28, 2006 at 10:53:20 PM EST

GREAT POST, BRO!!! (none / 0)

I hope people read it.


McCain is defining Obama, and Obama is neither defining himself, nor McCain. This is awful.
by jgarcia on Wed Mar 29, 2006 at 12:43:00 AM EST
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Bingo! (none / 0)

...This is why the conventional wisdom narrative on 2006 is out of date. To argue that Democrats are not properly taking advantage of the situation, and that they have not developed a message to appeal to swing voters, ignores both the enormous leads that Democrats have held in generic congressional ballots for nearly a full year, and that these leads have come almost entirely from their strength among swing voters, i.e. independents. The issue at hand is no longer "in the face of Republican collapse, why aren't Democrats doing better?" Democrats are doing better. They have huge leads, and have had them for several months. In contrast to the current conventional wisdom narrative, the actual issue at hand is whether or not Democrats have the electoral and activist recourses to deliver this new potential governing majority to the polls on Election Day. In other words, the issue is not whether or not Democrats can appeal to swing voters, because they have done that. The issue is whether or not the progressive activist base is excited enough o provide Democrats with the resources to win the 2006 election....

Last night I finished a fundraising mailing for a state legislative candidate challenging a "popular" stealth right wingnut republican incumbent. There is no doubt - the Democratic candidate will raise money.

One of the campaign narratives here in Missouri is to tie the very heavy stone of an unpopular republican Governor Matt "baby" Blunt around the neck of every republican legislator. "The republicans control the General Assembly" - beat that until they scream, then keep beating it...


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by Michael Bersin on Wed Mar 29, 2006 at 06:14:50 AM EST

Progressive ideas take the fore with Christians. (none / 0)

After reading this blog this morning on how Democrats need to fire up the progressive base, I had to write.  Most of this article I agree with.  I think that it would be a mistake for the Democrats to come up with a plan too soon.  The republicans are well known for attack politics and at this moment, they only have themselves to attack.  When Newt first introduced the Contract with American, it was in September.  There was no way to respond to it and it sounded like a grand ole plan.  I think that Democrats should consider such a bold plan but announce it right before the election.

I do believe that progressives smell blood in the water and will go to the polls just to voice their displeasure with Bush.  I think that conservatives will sit out the elections for the same reason. That does not mean that progressives should be lazy.  

One thing that I would like to see is a return of Christians to the Democratic party.  My greatest irritation is not the infusion of religion into politics but politics into religion.  Apparently the only two issues that Christians believe is gay marriage and abortion.  
Believe it or not, the 'church' was against Iraq.  Most people don't know this.  They knew that the Church was against a President who had sex on the side.  Why? The church leaders were not vocal because it might hurt their political party.  Politics outweighed religion.
Believe it or not, Jesus teaches us to care for the poor and spends a great deal of time addressing the excesses of the rich.  On this issue, the 'church' is silent.  Politics outweighed religion.
Believe it or not, the Bible tells us that we are to care for the planet--where is the outrage on global warming?  Politics outweighed religion.
Believe it or not, it was Christians who stood up and said that bigotry is wrong in the 60s.  
Our silence today toward bigotry and torture is deafening.  Politics outweighed religion.

I know that republicans like bumper sticker politics where issues are black and white.  I know that we will see the dreaded gay marriage amendment(which lasted .345 minutes after Bush was elected) and a ban on abortions (the government's power has no limit in a conservative world and they can control life/death/choice) as the Midterm elections get closer.

republicans believe that their constituents cannot understand a nuanced position and are simply sheep hence the need for bumper sticker politics.  Jesus calls Christians to be sheep to him and not be part of this world, in other words not to a polical party.  The Democrats do have an opportunity to make inroads to this constituency by highlighting these hypocrisies.
When the old head of the Christian coalition Ralph Reed is part of the Abermoff scandel, Politics outweighed religion.
As a Christian, I rarely see a distinction between a progressive and a Christian viewpoint.  For some reason, this collusion between two philosophies to help others has been lost and perverted.
Oh one other foot is fixing to drop for the republicans which the President has tried to innoculate himself against--Summer high gas prices.  The innoculation will not work and the voters will be in a very bad mood in November.  


by honorrespect on Wed Mar 29, 2006 at 08:57:57 AM EST

Re: Progressive ideas & Christians. (none / 0)

You are absolutely on to something here. Progressive values are, in the main, Christian values, and it is a fact that the Church, much maligned by many (but by no means all) liberals in the US, is way out front when it comes to important life and death issues like war, poverty alleviation and capital punishment.

Far more out front that President Clinton, who many of these liberals pretend was a "progressive".


by redstar66 on Wed Mar 29, 2006 at 10:17:04 AM EST
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