2006 Is A Base Election

Nancy Pelosi isn't doing a good job as minority leader.  I've written about this here, here, here, here, here, and here.  She's actively hostile to the netroots, which I find baffling.  She doesn't stand up for her fellow members when they are fighting the Republicans.  She creates incentives against aggressive behavior.  She enforces an ethics truce, and lies about it.  Despite all of this, she can still come around and be a good leader.  And if she doesn't come around and start leading, it could cost us 2006.

First, let's speak politics.  It's clear that the Republicans have a turnout advantage, and especially in a base election like 2004, the middle does not vote.  Even in 2004, which was not a base election, only 4.7% of voters switched their choice of candidate.  2006 will be an election where getting out the base is decisive.  Now, I know the polls say that Republicans are demoralized.  But this is a temporary phenomenon.  The Republican operatives are reading the same damned polls and are making plans to fire up their base.  And unlike us, they don't have much trust to regain, because they have largely satisfied their base over the past five years.  At the end of the day, Republicans bitch and bitch and bitch about their leadership and then they. turn. out.  That's the GOP model.  They will be organized, they will be effective, they will be targeted.  We simply cannot afford to assume this will fall into our laps by ignoring the very real demoralization within our own base.

Read this analysis of 2004, from Chris Bowers.  Lots of good stuff in there, but the key takeaway is as follows:

As fewer and fewer people even consider switching to the opposition, much less actually changing their minds, Republican turnout is increasing and Democratic turnout is static. Further, Republicans love their leadership while Democrats only like theirs.

If this leadership gap continues, the GOP will happily make this election about the Democrats, like they did in 2002.  The base is already demoralized, and like in TX-28, may just sit on its hands.  What's the point of switching over if all you get is mealy mouthed stubborn camp counselors as leadership?

Jane Hamsher writes about it,, as does Digby and John Aravosis.  Now I know the temptation is to dismiss what we say because we are thirteen year old children or something.  Even though Jane was a successful Hollywood producer.  And Aravosis was a lawyer, a journalist for the Economist, and a Senate staffer.  And I have worked in real live winning campaigns and managed multi-million dollar software projects.  These are mean feats for thirteen year olds.

Or maybe we're being confusing us with single issue groups who are asking for politicians to check our specific box or else we're going to go away.  That's certainly how the media wants to portray us, as part of the 'liberal base' next to the corrupt and bitchy enviro groups.  But that's not who we are.  We are the silent majority in this country, the people who are asking you to lead us in another direction.  It doesn't even matter which direction, just as long as it's different and it's principled.  That's all.  Represent us, or represent something other than knuckling under to a staid conventional wisdom.

Or else in November, 2006, we're going to be incoherently angry again and Eleanor Clift will be tut-tuttting the liberal extremists, and all the while America will be dying.



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Re: 2006 Is A Base Election (none / 0)

Matt,

I think you should lay off Nancy Pelosi. Are you doing Hillary Clinton's dirty work for her? The DLC Democrats would love nothing more than to oust Pelosi and replace her with Hoyer who stands in the wings.

Pelosi isn't perfect, but she's one of us. She's trying to win the election and then we can talk about all those things that baffle you.

This is why the left always lose. Because we commit mutual assured destruction on each other and then the DLC fill in the void.

So lay off Nancy, will ya. She won't do everything you want. Get use to it.


by JackBourassa on Mon Mar 20, 2006 at 09:57:17 AM EST

Re: 2006 Is A Base Election (3.00 / 4)

You're right, I shouldn't be so mean as to ask from leadership from Democratic party leadership.


by Matt Stoller on Mon Mar 20, 2006 at 10:12:23 AM EST
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Re: 2006 Is A Base Election (3.00 / 1)

Pelosi: Actually considering she is from a very safe electable area, she should actually be more outspoken for liberal values  than most senators, all other things being equal. So pointing out the fact that Pelosi is more liberal than the typical senator is of no use really.

Let us also consider the times she does stand by the liberal wing of the party (and once again, considering where she is getting elected from, this is of no risk to her), she frequently seems unprepared. It is people like her who dont have to appease the crossovers as much as someone from Ohio that has to take leadership and be more outspoken since she won't have to fear losing a reelection.

Besides, she is not the brightest bulb in the business. She shows a lack of quick smarts when confronted with questions by a press ready to bait the easy to bully democrats.


by Pravin on Mon Mar 20, 2006 at 08:31:13 PM EST
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Re: 2006 Is A Base Election (3.00 / 1)

It's not about being mean. It's about seeing the bigger picture. What do you accomplish by undermining Pelosi? You make Hoyer Dem leader...

Is that what you want?

Can't you make your criticisms in a less inflammatory way? That's all i'm suggesting.


by JackBourassa on Mon Mar 20, 2006 at 10:17:45 AM EST

Re: 2006 Is A Base Election (3.00 / 4)

What do you accomplish by undermining Pelosi?

This is a very good question, because Hoyer is no good either.  The issue for me is not who is in charge but what incentive system they respond to.  Pelosi, a liberal Democrat from SF, is acting like a conservative cautious Southern moderate.  Why?  Because the media stream is responsive to those that act like conservative cautious Southern moderates.  I want to change this incentive system.  Do I want Pelosi in charge or Hoyer?  Frankly it doesn't matter to me so much, I want a damn leader in charge.  If Pelosi can become that leader I'll support her 120%.  If she can't then she needs to be removed so someone else can take a shot.


by Matt Stoller on Mon Mar 20, 2006 at 11:10:30 AM EST
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Re: 2006 Is A Base Election (3.00 / 3)

"Frankly it doesn't matter to me so much, I want a damn leader in charge."

Exactly.

The party leaders FEAR the base. As fucking insane as it seems, they fear the base because they fear losing ANY of their power. Well, times have changed dramatically, folks like me are now directly involved who demand accountability. So, either produce or get the fuck out the way.


by Citizen80203 on Mon Mar 20, 2006 at 11:19:42 AM EST
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Re: 2006 Is A Base Election (none / 0)

Pelosi is actually a machine politician from Baltimore.  That is her upbringing and background.

That said, she is better than Hoyer--much better.  Hoyer is conservative and he isn't the type to stand up to Bush.  Be carefulo what ypu wish for.


by Mimikatz on Mon Mar 20, 2006 at 11:47:29 PM EST
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GOP will make their own travails a plus (none / 0)

The GOP are still feeding off their Long March 1964-1994. If times are good, their guys enjoy it.

(OK, they don't actually enjoy it - that's a privilege reserved to the corporate wefare gluttons. But they think they do - which is good enough.)

If times are bad - they draw on their reserves of fortitude and patience. Kind of like the The Grapes of Wrath Ma Joad speech, only rewritten by Frank Luntz.

This is an exceptionally powerful story arc for Americans - it's the frontier story, born-in-a-log-cabin, Horatio Alger bollocks. Dems dismiss it at their peril.

GOP voters don't need strong leadership, or policies that work for them. They just need to be able to assure themselves that they're following the right path. (The protestant direct relationship between man and God has something to do with this, perhaps.)

Whereas the expectation of Dems (since the FDR years) is to be in the majority (in Congress, at least).

Ironically, they're the ones who've got soft and expect victory on a plate, and to be inspired by some Messiah - and go pouty when none turns up.

You have to judge Congressional leaders by results. Frist and DeLay have basically delivered; Reid and Pelosi - adjusting for the restrictions to which minorities are subject - have not.

If the Dems win either house this year - and the price on winning the House is drifting towards evens, and may even be odds-on by November - the likelihood is a wholesale clearout of GOP leadership dead wood, and a burning desire of the GOP rank and file to wage unrelenting war on the Dems.

And Speaker Pelosi's reply will be...


by skeptic06 on Mon Mar 20, 2006 at 10:28:58 AM EST

Re: GOP will make their own travails a plus (none / 0)

Uh, whaaaaa?


by JackBourassa on Mon Mar 20, 2006 at 10:32:32 AM EST
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Re: GOP will make their own travails a plus (none / 0)

A nicely worked line of argument I'd not considered!


by skeptic06 on Mon Mar 20, 2006 at 10:50:09 AM EST
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I'm confused by you too. (none / 0)

Specifically your last sentence or so.


by Teaser on Mon Mar 20, 2006 at 10:58:55 AM EST
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Re: I'm confused by you too. (3.00 / 1)

All I was saying is that Dems should not assume that if the GOP lost the House (say) - I'd say it was too close to call right now - that they would slink off to a permanent floating pity party.

Most likely, they will view this as an opportunity to return to the glory days of the Gingrich Guerillas of the 103rd. They still manage to think of themselves as insurgents, and the Dems as the coastal elites in charge, despite having controlled both houses for 12 years (the Jeffords flip excepted).

Whereas Congressional Dems seem to act as if they're still the majority, and are only kept out of their chairmanships by a legal technicality.

The House GOP could implode if they lost control. I'd not put money on it, though.


by skeptic06 on Mon Mar 20, 2006 at 11:17:04 AM EST
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Re: 2006 Is A Base Election (none / 0)

If Pelosi were in fact a Republican plant, what would she be doing differently to undermine the party's success?  Just watch her in speeches, she looks like Tom DeLay's battered wife.

What's wrong with Hoyer?  Hoyer is closer to being a grass-roots Democrat than Pelosi, notwithstanding his fairly conservative Southern Maryland district.  Would take him as Minority Leader in a second.


by Crablaw on Mon Mar 20, 2006 at 10:46:36 AM EST

Re: 2006 Is A Base Election (none / 0)

Hoyer is not a progressive.  He supported the bankruptcy Bill.  He is much more conservative than Pelosi.  She could do better in some respects, but she is much more progressive than Hoyer.


by Mimikatz on Mon Mar 20, 2006 at 11:50:27 PM EST
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Re: 2006 Is A Base Election (none / 0)

The foregoing is not to imply that any person is in fact a batterer, I speak metaphorically for effect.


by Crablaw on Mon Mar 20, 2006 at 10:47:28 AM EST

You bet it is (none / 0)

I'll be voting "Independent" from here on. Even at the risk of indefinite Republican control.
The Democrats are assuming they'll get anti-Neocon votes.
THEY ARE DEAD WRONG.

I will not oppose the Neocons on the Democratic Leadership's behalf. Not anymore.


Independent who blames Dems for Republican crimes.
by Landsurveyor on Mon Mar 20, 2006 at 10:57:21 AM EST

have fun with "pretend politics" (3.00 / 3)

and let us know when you get to level XII and gain the ability to cast spells.


by Teaser on Mon Mar 20, 2006 at 11:00:07 AM EST
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Oh, I get it (none / 0)

I have to "understand politics" to make rational decisions. You're part of the problem. At the very least you could offer up a counter argument or a defense of Democratic silence.
I sincerely believe the Democratic "strategy" is to lay low and not become targets while "at war". They won't touch anything having to do woth Iraq and civil liberties.
But you know what? It is possible to be a moral politician. At any given moment an average American can have any number of positions on the war and civil liberties and the Democrats are not trying to shape public opinion. Should I infer they are in bed with the neocons? Clearly they are.
Independent who blames Dems for Republican crimes.
by Landsurveyor on Mon Mar 20, 2006 at 04:49:01 PM EST
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Bush is a uniter after all! (none / 0)


Independent who blames Dems for Republican crimes.
by Landsurveyor on Mon Mar 20, 2006 at 04:49:37 PM EST
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Re: 2006 Is A Base Election (3.00 / 3)

Well said Matt.

I am sick and tired of being labeled by everyone let alone MY PARTY! I am a manager who oversees a large operation, educated, and a f*king moderate (but a proud member of the base). I have been radicalized by five years of pure incompetence, and my party marginalizes me because I'm f*king fed up?!! The leadership had better get their sh*t together soon, or we will be forced to disinfect the party of weakness.


by Citizen80203 on Mon Mar 20, 2006 at 11:00:02 AM EST

Re: 2006 Is A Base Election (3.00 / 4)

If we want to get out the base we need to support Feingold.

Given that 47% of the country -- Dems and Repubs --supports censure and the overwhelming majority of Dems support either censure or impeachment (not that I think impeachmeent now is a good idea) Feingold IS the base.

Cravenly running from a popular position is not only not leadership, it is not even comprehensible. Even William Kristol understands that Feingold's move is a politically smart one and keeps the issue of illegal spying on the table. Why can't Pelosi?


by mjshep on Mon Mar 20, 2006 at 11:04:21 AM EST

Why? (3.00 / 2)

Because she is afarid to offend people who won't vote for her anyway.


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by LiberalFromPA on Mon Mar 20, 2006 at 12:02:52 PM EST
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the netroots aren't the San Francisco left (3.00 / 1)

In San Francisco, the far left is nuts and as a general rule it is best to ignore them. I think Pelosi (and/or staff) may not understand that the people reading MyDD aren't the same people who think successful politics is U-Locking themselves to Democrats' offices.

The netroots are not these people. In any other sector of the economy -- ANY -- using the internet for greater efficiency is expected. Not using the internet for greater efficiency is crazy.

But because of the baggage some in DC carry, it is the exact opposite in politics where those not using the internet seem to be more respected and have more credibility than those who have made the transition. And we wonder why we have a leadership problem.


by blogswarm on Mon Mar 20, 2006 at 11:25:44 AM EST

This in itself (none / 0)

"The netroots are not these people."

If this is true, then they are so very very very much more incompetent then any of us realize. I could buy such an argument even two years ago, but now?

It is fear. The leadership and consultants fear the net/base power. They know that Dems who were previously on the sides are now entering into "activism". Hell, they sense a change coming to the party and to them any change is an unknown to be feared.


by Citizen80203 on Mon Mar 20, 2006 at 11:40:45 AM EST
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Re: This in itself (3.00 / 1)

Look at the baggage.

Most Democrats don't live in SF and have tons of baggage against being greatly outspent by an opponent. This is their Fear, so the run to the right, get religion (especially when it comes to raising more money) and show us their fear by what is the stimulant for their over-reaction.

San Francisco gives a Democrat a different set of baggage.

This is a major difference between Reid and Pelosi. Reid has had hard fought electoral battles with the GOP, hell he barely won his senate seat. Reid looks to the netroots as an advantage, a potential for increased efficiency. Pelosi is the exact opposite, she barely won her special election against the far left. She fears the blogs as being the far left, which blinds her from seeing that the netroots aren't the problem, the problem is people who still aren't campaigning in real-time.


by blogswarm on Mon Mar 20, 2006 at 11:58:17 AM EST
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Re: This in itself (none / 0)

Interesting analysis.  In a book I read called 'The Right Nation' by two British journalists, they highlight how left wing SF really is.  

Who would everyone else like to see as HmL?


I'm British, but our politics bores me.
by Illustrious on Mon Mar 20, 2006 at 12:05:23 PM EST
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Re: This in itself (none / 0)

One more difference between the far left in San Francisco and the netroots is that I don't see the netroots (yet) trying to tear Pelosi down, but instead interested in working with her to do a better job.


by blogswarm on Mon Mar 20, 2006 at 12:12:11 PM EST
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"campaigning in real time" (3.00 / 1)

That'd make a good slogan for something.

Most netroots people I know are fairly center-leftish.  My favorite thing that Kos guy ever said was when he talked about being a reform democrat who is practical, not far-left at all.
That's pretty much most of the dems I know.


by Sam Loomis on Mon Mar 20, 2006 at 01:34:26 PM EST
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San Francisco left (none / 0)

As a member of that group who worked hard on the left campaign that almost prevented Pelosi from inheriting her seat -- it may surprise folks to learn that I don't think she is dumb enough to confuse the netroots with the left. She actually has some acquaintance with the real left and has been stonewalling it for years. She is also probably a better congresscritter than the guy we put up, but we were probably right to give her a hard ride, since at the time her chief qualification for the job was fundraising from fat cats. Gotta keep these people honest.

I think her problem is more that she is the first woman speaker and ALWAYS has to be more conventional than thou in consequence. Sad.


Can It Happen Here?
by janinsanfran on Mon Mar 20, 2006 at 04:25:55 PM EST
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Re: San Francisco left (none / 0)

Ah yes, Harry Britt.  I remember that election.  She really did turn out to be much better than he ever would have been, although I was in the Britt camp as well.  I think you are right.  She fears being attacked as a woman, and she still fears being tarred as an SF liberal.  Which is what she is.  She has actually enforced good discipline on the budget votes.  They have managed to tie the budget to the GOP, and raising the debt limit as well. She is frustrating, but still to the left of DiFi, thankfully.


by Mimikatz on Mon Mar 20, 2006 at 11:57:37 PM EST
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Re: This in itself (3.00 / 1)

This makes no sense. She fears the far left in SF, so she supports the Iraq war? In case you didn't know, the 100k people who were protesting in SF in March 2003 were not supporting the war, and by the standards of most of the country I suppose they represent the "far left."

Pelosi is far more conservative than her district (if you don't live here, you probably don't believe me), which is really weird for a congressional democrat. But that would be OK if she weren't such a finger-in-the-wind politician and actually showed an appetite for fighting for principles. This is the problem. She's in a district that she can win with 85% without campaigning, and she behaves as though she's worried about being re-elected.

I assume her behavior is most likely explained by House internal politics. Be that as it may, however, I have been greatly disappointed in Pelosi's performance as minority leader.


by taliesin on Mon Mar 20, 2006 at 08:28:34 PM EST
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Re: This in itself (3.00 / 1)

Pelosi does NOT support the Iraq War. In fact, I believe she voted against it. She personally supported Murtha.  But goven the divisions in the caucus, she won't enforce a position on Iraq on other members.


by Mimikatz on Mon Mar 20, 2006 at 11:59:21 PM EST
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Re: 2006 Is A Base Election (3.00 / 1)

Look at Elmendorf's business partnership with Oliver.

Try to convince me that this is not what DC Democrats are now all about.

The consultants are riding the gravy train, the befuddled politicos are happy just to retain their seats and have Russert return their calls.

BTW With the current fiscal disaster, some of the Bush tax cuts will have to be revoked.  If by a miracle the Dems regain Congress, hands up who thinks they will try to turn around the fiscal train wreck?

Exactly.


by Taylor26 on Mon Mar 20, 2006 at 12:07:29 PM EST

Re: 2006 Is A Base Election (3.00 / 1)

A couple of things:

(1)The nation is now on political terrain it hasn't seen since at least 1974. Imagine finally emerging after being lost in a large desert. That's what the Democratic leadership's going through. None of them feels quite confident enough that the poll numbers they're seeing aren't mirages. Pelosi's focus is on maintaining caucus discipline which Gephardt allowed to atrophy in his later years. I don't fundamentally have a problem with this.

(2)Short of Bill Frist burning a cross on the Senate floor, I doubt that the margins from a realistic high-estimate increase in base turnout will match the value we get from winning the votes of the legions of pissed-off independents. Remember independent votes count effectively count for two. Independents only want to elect Democrats right now because Democrats aren't Bush Republicans, not because they've become sudden wholesale converts to a strong social justice agenda. So, sure, do what you need to do message-wise to make sure enough of your base shows up, but be careful not be so partisan that you alienate that sector of the electorate that hates partisanship the most.

(3)Most federal elected officials see themselves as elected officials first and members of their party second. The kind of movement confrontationalism you prefer is never going to be in style in either house of congress (before you cite the Gingrich example, that was minority within a minority for many years before their perfect-storm windfall) so long as a large portion of members are dependent on support from voters of both parties.


by blueflorida on Mon Mar 20, 2006 at 12:15:43 PM EST

Re: 2006 Is A Base Election (none / 0)

I'm genuinely confused by almost all of the conclusions you draw here.

1)  You say that Pelosi is trying to maintain caucus discipline, but I'm really only seeing that with respect to the progressive side of her caucus.  The Republican-leaning side of her caucus has deviated on a regular basis.  This goes triple for the Senate, where her attack on Feingold was just inexplicable -- that's not even her caucus.

2)  Where do you get the "social justice agenda" line?  I didn't see that anywhere in the post.  Don't impose your assumptions about what some stereotyped sentimentalist liberals would want onto the question of what the Democratic base would want or what might show independents that the Dems can lead.

3) Most federal elected officials see themselves as elected officials first and members of their party second.  This borders on incoherent given the last 20 years.  Since when do the Republicans treat anyone who's not a Republican as a real constituent?  That's not Gingrich.  That's the Republicans right now.  It's that "we can deal" technocrat thinking that is killing the Democratic leadership.


by jsw on Mon Mar 20, 2006 at 02:12:40 PM EST
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Re: 2006 Is A Base Election (none / 0)

1)Before Pelosi became Minority Leader she was one of the more prominent members of the House Progressive Caucus. If it seems that she only has discipline over the progressive side of the caucus it's because she's more familiar with and trusted by that side of the caucus and in general it's been more difficult to handle the conservative dems. Many genuine conservative democrats basically represent "Dixiecrat" districts. They are Democrats only because of bizarre historical legacy reasons, not for reasons of ideology. Dozens of similar dixiecrat congressmen have bolted the party in the past because of greener political pastures on the GOP side. It's implicitly understood that any attempts to put too much pressure on these guys will lead to them leaving the party caucus. Pelosi has tried harder than Gephardt did to discipline the dixiecrats (most notably over the CAFTA betrayal) publically. However, until she gets more political capital, it'll be hard for her to truly reign those guys in.

Her "attack" on Feingold has more to do with her own caucus than it does any pique at Feingold. Needless to say, there are many Democratic House members who have already endorsed impeachment proceedings. Rightly or wrongly, she thinks that pushing for investigations into the NSA spying will be more useful for the caucus politically than impeachment. Feingold's resolution provided succor to House progressives who would like to see House Dems take a more aggressive stance against Bush.

2) The core, essential point of identity for anyone openly on the political left-of-center in this country is the belief in remedying social injustice. I really don't see how you could propose to mount an effective base mobilization and expansion operation without strongly engaging social justice questions. But perhaps there's a great number of balanced budget base voters who have been sitting out recent elections because Establishment dems have lacked the courage to hit that issue hard enough. Then again, I guess I consider Iraq withdrawal to be basically a social justice topic; you possibly do not and that may be partly responsible for the disagreement here.

The point is that it is possible to scare off independents if we come on too strong. And my thinking is that the winning margins for us in November are going to come from independents and not our traditional base. So, let's be rhetorically sophisticated enough so that we don't waste our current advantage.

(3)

Since when do the Republicans treat anyone who's not a Republican as a real constituent?

Republican elected officials generally are not going to decide things they way Democratic voters would want them. However, there have been many examples of Republicans in congress who have crossed party-lines to try to accomplish something for the greater good. Does every Republican do this? Of course not, but still some of them really do try to be good public servants.

I would agree with you that especially under the DeLay/Hastert/Lott/Frist regime, the GOP has made a substantial effort to make their members see their primary duty in more partisan terms. So, yes, it's harder to find "reasonable republicans" today than it may have been in the past.

Still, I think that for Democrats who actually want to try to salvage something from their time in the congress besides partisan battle scars, it is worthwhile to try to seek out those few reasonable republicans to try to accomplish something beneficial to the general public.


by blueflorida on Mon Mar 20, 2006 at 04:23:21 PM EST
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External Events, not "base election" (none / 0)


I think the "base election" formulation is simplistic; every election is a base election.   The key way to understand elections is the change vs. continuity dynamic, which is often driven by purely external events.  So leveraging external events politically is what matters.  Guess which side has been better at that recently (terrorism)?    

This is not to dispute any of the blogospheric criticisms of the party structure and politics in general; it's merely to add on an ignored layer.  

I've said many times I think D's need about a 15 point generic ballot advantage to have a chance at taking a chamber.  I don't expect this margin to last.

But I'd actually rather fall just short in both chambers and run as "out of power" in '08.


by Andmoreagain on Mon Mar 20, 2006 at 12:29:19 PM EST

Re: External Events, not "base election" (none / 0)

I'm not sure we need 15 point generic polling lead to win the House -- but I know from long experience that we need a 7 to 8 point registration gap in our favor to win a legislative district in California. That is, it is much harder to turn out our base than it is for the Reps.


Can It Happen Here?
by janinsanfran on Mon Mar 20, 2006 at 04:31:42 PM EST
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RE: The Ethics Truce (3.00 / 1)

No one mentions this much, but you gotta think they got something good and hard on Pelosi, or several of her allies on the hill.  

If she isn't afraid of them filing valid ethics complaints against her & her allies, then why still enforce the truce?  


by Sam Loomis on Mon Mar 20, 2006 at 01:36:39 PM EST

Re: 2006 Is A Base Election (3.00 / 1)

Matt you are absolutely correct. The 2006 election will all be about who can turn out their voters. There are no cross-over voters and the mythical "middle of the road" swing voter does not exist.

The Repubs have consistently demonstrated their ability to turn out their base. So despite the generic ballot lead that the Dems have the Repubs will close strongly come Nov.

My question is why after all these election cycle losses does the Dems DC leadership not get it that they have to energize their base to win any elections? The Repubs always play to their base why does the Dems leadership not do the same?


by ab initio on Mon Mar 20, 2006 at 02:31:06 PM EST

Re: 2006 Is A Base Election (none / 0)

Although I see it as a virtual lock to gain some seats in Congress and in the Senate, unless Pelosi and others in the Democratic leadership come out of their collective coma, GOTV for Democrats will not be enough to turn the generic polling advantage into actual results.  Among my progressive (at least partisan Democrat) friends and acquaintances, the prevailing opinion far and away is disgust with party leadership that has failed to capitalize on this golden opportunity.  They (and I) are contributing to the DNC, individual candidates, Act Blue and Moveon-not a dime to the DSCC or the DCCC.  Among a number there is a near mystical fear that this weakness at the top will give Rove and company all they need to pull their irons out of the fire.  During the last special election that I worked, I randomly asked voters that I have come to know over the years at this polling place if they knew who Nancy Pelosi was.  I was amazed at how many either didn't know outright or had only a vague idea of who she was.  Now, there's leadership for you.


by Retired Catholic on Mon Mar 20, 2006 at 03:34:41 PM EST

Re: 2006 Is A Base Election (none / 0)

If it's a base election and if this is true:

We are the silent majority in this country, the people who are asking you to lead us in another direction.  It doesn't even matter which direction, just as long as it's different and it's principled.  That's all.  Represent us, or represent something other than knuckling under to a staid conventional wisdom

then why aren't you supporting Chuck Pennacchio who's running against a DINO in one of the most important races of the year?


by eRobin on Mon Mar 20, 2006 at 07:38:54 PM EST

Nancy Pelosi, Speaker (none / 0)

If want to take back the Congress, one thing you need to do is get behind the leader.

Nancy Pelosi, Speaker

Let's brainstorm towards the 10 point program instead of hammering Nancy. There is a tinge of sexism to this line of thinking. In a Kos poll, Dean and Reid get good numbers, Nancy gets hammered. That is unfair.

The Spectrum On Gender


http://democracyforum.blogspot.com
by paramendra on Mon Mar 20, 2006 at 08:35:20 PM EST

Re: 2006 Is A Base Election (none / 0)

WE are the extremists.  The base of the Republican party is "main stream America".  If WE don't like it, so what?  Where else we gonna go? Remember anyone but Bush?   They don't need to care about their base because we failed to teach them otherwise.  Do we ever punish them?  No, keep on givin Dean money, showing up at the polls because we "wimps" are anyone but Bush.  WE get what WE deserve.  


by oakland on Tue Mar 21, 2006 at 05:28:16 AM EST

Re: 2006 Is A Base Election (none / 0)

When does the Democratic party feed it's base? Instead they generally dither and waffle on things and at best are mealy mouthed about things.

What are they so scared of? Republicans feed their base and their base turns out, we don't feed ours and they don't turn out and we turn off indys and other swing voters because they don't think we stand for an awful lot.

Republicans have already got their base convinced that the Democratic party is pro-taxes, pro-gay (to an extreme - whatever that might be. forced gay marraiges for everyone perhaps? snark), pro-abortion (not pro-choice, but literally wanting more abortions), anti-family, and anti-guns. They turn out good sections of their base based on those issues, but our base doesn't turn out based on our actual positions on those issues because we don't speak out strongly--or sometimes at all--on our actual positions on them and swing voters don't hear us say much at all about them so they figure we either:

a) don't have particularly strong stances on those issues and so don't stand for anything

or

b) they believe what Republicans say our beliefs on those issues are because we don't say much to the contary

It's long past time the party talks loudly and proudly about our actual common sense positions on those issues (and more) so that our base will have a reason to turn out again and we'd not likely loose any more indys and swing voters then we already do since they were already convinced (after long years of listening to the Republican noise machine and Dems whistling quietly and handwringing) we had more extreme positions anyway and at best we may very well win a good number of those voters over to our side once they hear our common sense beliefs on the issues and that we do in fact actually believe in something after all.

Think just how different things would be. Just think.


by Quinton on Tue Mar 21, 2006 at 11:47:47 PM EST

Re: 2006 Is A Base Election (none / 0)

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by hcy0331 on Fri Mar 31, 2006 at 10:36:42 AM EST

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