Lieberman, McCain, Beltway Insiders, Oh My!

McJoan points out that Rubber Stamp McCain is a hypocrite on Feingold's Censure resolution.  But what about the Lieberman?  Well aside from supporting right-wing nutcases on hospitals being able denying contraception to rape victims (his excuse is that "In Connecticut, it shouldn't take more than a short ride to get to another hospital), he's also against Feingold's censure resolution.

In other unrelated news, Ned Lamont announced his candidacy today.  You can give here.

And one more note on this.  What Lieberman said today about a short drive to a hospital is immensely cruel.  I'm a guy, so I probably can't talk about this with any credibility.  But I will try to describe what I think because this is so awful and because hey, I'm not going to cut myself out of the conversation just because other dudes are self-righteous assholes about 'men's rights'.  

Having a medical procedure done, any medical procedure, is embarrassing, intrusive, and scary, especially in a system as fucked up as ours where doctors don't really care about you because they are paid to avoid mistakes with paperwork.  When you combine with this making the decision to have children or not, and maybe in a bunch of cases dumbfuck boyfriends who either aren't around or aren't helpful, the agony for some women is just immense.  To talk about hospitals denying legal medical care because commuting is easy in Connecticut is really monstrous.  It's so out of touch, so banal in the evil sense, and so downright elitist and cowardly.  

Joe Lieberman will never have to have an abortion.  He will never have to fight in a war.  He will never be raped.  And he will never have to bear the consequences of the choices he makes as a Senator.  If nothing else, Ned Lamont has young children, and so the choices he makes are necessarily going to have more compassion and more strength behind them because he actually cares about the world his children will inherit.  Lieberman simply doesn't.  As a nice and cowardly man, he just cares about the sensitivities of those surrounding him.  And since those who surround him are a mix of corrupt lobbyists and right-wing nutcases, his decisions are awful and morally cruel.

David Sirota is completely right when he says that Lieberman's campaign manager admitted Lieberman's out of touch.  Lieberman is out of touch.  This isn't a partisan issue, and I don't actually care that Lieberman goes on Fox News, really.  To me, that's just a symptom of a bankrupt, spiritually dead man who has lost the will to make the right decisions.  Lieberman is out of touch like Robert Moses was out of touch.  Moses built all the highways of New York City, only Moses never actually knew how to drive a car because he had a chauffeur so he never realized what a traffic jam was.  It was just extra time for him to work.  He didn't realize the hell his system put New Yorkers through.

And that's where Lieberman is today.  He's a cruel, callow, weak little man.  He needs to go.

And let me tell you something else.  Lieberman is going to get hurt by this primary.  Already, Ned Lamont's name recognition among party activists is high, and that's because of the blogs.  People know his name.  They know he's challenging Lieberman.  That's a huge step.  It's what we've bought with our $90K so far.  And if we can pump this over $100K, it will be a massive statement to insiders that Lieberman is going to have to face some angry Democratic voters, and if they don't shape up, so will they.

Already we are known as the only equivalent to the Club for Growth on the left.  I don't know about the parallel, but lazy people who call themselves members of the House Democratic caucus do have reason to fear us, because we tell the truth.  We are pointing out that Feingold, a real leader, is actually showing that Democrats can and do fight.  And we are pointing out that all the lazy progressives, who won't file ethics complaints, and all the centrist fools, who keep pretending that being lied to on Iraq is somehow strong, are being stupid incumbent middle managers.  We are also proving that ordinary Democrats, ordinary people, can make a huge difference.  For crying out loud, pick either Glenn Greenwald, Mike Stark, John Aravosis, Melanie Sloan, or Jane Hamsher, and any one is more effective than 10 Democratic Congresscritters.  

It's ridiculous.  This party is going to be reinvented, and we are going to do it, because we are doing it.  Who attacked McCain first?  We did.  Who is will to take on sacred cows like Obama and Pelosi?  We are.  Who calls out Chris Matthews and Tim Russert, day after day?  We do.  Who built a web resource to get around the incompetence of the WHO on Avian Flu?  We did.  Dean is sitting in that DNC chair because of the netroots.  

This is really a fight about all of us.  It's our fight.  Each one of us can make this happen, in our way.  Whether it's giving money to Ned Lamont, calling your Senator, joining your local Democratic Party, or talking to your neighbor, each one of us can make a difference.  

And in August, let me recommend you spend a few weeks in Connecticut door-knocking.  After all, in Connecticut, it's apparently quite easy to get around.



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Re: Lieberman, McCain, Beltway Insiders, Oh My! (none / 0)

For a second there, I thought I was reading The News Blog.


by blueflorida on Mon Mar 13, 2006 at 08:39:54 PM EST

Re: Lieberman, McCain, Beltway Insiders, Oh My! (none / 0)

Heh.  Without the pictures.


by Pachacutec on Mon Mar 13, 2006 at 08:58:53 PM EST
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Re: Lieberman, McCain, Beltway Insiders, Oh My! (none / 0)

As we used to say back in the day:

"Right Fucking On!" We are going to drive the ReThugs into the sea...and the scume who have been posing as "Democrats" right along with them.

Crash the Gates.


by Pericles on Mon Mar 13, 2006 at 09:02:27 PM EST

Re: Lieberman, McCain, Beltway Insiders, Oh My! (none / 0)

Hi first time caller, long time listener....

Lieberman needs to go, he should just declare himself a republican and get it over with.  What a judgemental, holier-than-thou bastard.  And after today seeing the dems with their tails between their legs after Feingold introduced the censure resolution - doesn't anyone have any guts anymore???  Who are these people representing??  I called Reid's office earlier and his staff gave me some bowl of mush bs about how he wasn't really supporting the Feingold effort, blah, blah, blah.  He is ineffectual and spineless.  

Am reading crashing the gate and it is making me angrier...little wonder that we've been losing elections - need some spines desperately in this party.


by curly on Mon Mar 13, 2006 at 09:12:28 PM EST

Re: Lieberman, McCain, Beltway Insiders, Oh My! (none / 0)

Matt, that was brilliant! It isn't just Lieberman being out of touch, so is the media.  My gwad if they spent one day on our blogs they would be shocked -- absolutely shocked.  But, instead, they pretend like Howard Fineman who thinks he knows us so well, and knows absolutely nothing!  This guy is one big jerk and why Keith Olberman had him on tonight to belittle Feingold's resolution for censure is beyond me.  Perhaps his producers made him do it, but when will we have someone in the media who can truthfully speak for us and show how we are fighting every day against these cowards. Even today Reid would not support Feingold. Lieberman was no surprise, but why Reid?  When will these spineless Dems realize they are part of the problem, not the solution?


by HWS on Mon Mar 13, 2006 at 09:15:21 PM EST

Think Nationally, Act Locally (none / 0)


  I've done a couple of diaries here about what we're doing here in Frederick County, Maryland, to groom and develop the grassroots leaders who will be the Democratic Party of the future.

 I'll be posting a followup in a few days, after our next meeting.

 One thing I'd like to add -- get to know your local Democratic leadership. You may be surprised to find out that many of them share our frustrations about the utter ineffectuality of our beltway leadership, even if they've never read a blog in their lives.

  It is out of such alliances that movements are born.
 


by Tony Soltero on Mon Mar 13, 2006 at 09:31:31 PM EST

Early money is like yeast (none / 0)

Hopefully, the netroots can get more EARLY money to Lamont than the late money to Ciro Rodriguez.  For crucial parts of a campaign like creating an effective Early Voting program, early money is essential.

"He who gives early gives twice." - Cervantes


McCain is defining Obama, and Obama is neither defining himself, nor McCain. This is awful.
by jgarcia on Mon Mar 13, 2006 at 09:36:51 PM EST

Re: Lieberman, McCain, Beltway Insiders, Oh My! (none / 0)

I take offense of this statement:

"...especially in a system as fucked up as ours where doctors don't really care about you because they are paid to avoid mistakes with paperwork."

I have a lot of doctors in my family and they care about their patients.  However, because of low payments and high overhead because of insurance paperwork they must see more patients in a day.  As a result, quality and personal attention undeniably suffer.


by dayspring on Mon Mar 13, 2006 at 09:52:22 PM EST

Re: Lieberman, McCain, Beltway Insiders, Oh My! (3.00 / 2)

Check out a wingnut Senator's FEC filing, and you'll see lots of contributions from medical associations.  If doctors want to change the system, they sure as hell aren't acting like it.


by Matt Stoller on Mon Mar 13, 2006 at 10:14:51 PM EST
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Re: Lieberman, McCain, Beltway Insiders, Oh My! (1.50 / 2)

For crying out loud, pick either Glenn Greenwald, Mike Stark, John Aravosis, Melanie Sloan, or Jane Hamsher, and any one is more effective than 10 Democratic Congresscritters.

Maybe in OPPOSITE WORLD.  Seriously, I know you love blogs, but get a grip.


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by ItsDrewMiller on Mon Mar 13, 2006 at 10:59:20 PM EST

Re: Lieberman, McCain, Beltway Insiders, Oh My! (none / 0)

Those aren't all bloggers.  


by Matt Stoller on Mon Mar 13, 2006 at 11:09:09 PM EST
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Re: Lieberman, McCain, Beltway Insiders, Oh My! (1.50 / 2)

Your point?  What are they effective at?  Have they won Democrats one single seat?  Have they collectively raised enough money to run one competitive congressional race?  Has CREW gotten anyone to file an ethics complaint?

I don't mean to downplay their importance, because I certainly appreciate what they are all doing (well I guess I don't know much about Mike Stark, but he's in good company with your list).  But to say they are more effective than 10 Representatives is just silly, and you know it.


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by ItsDrewMiller on Tue Mar 14, 2006 at 03:41:20 AM EST
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Re: Lieberman, McCain, Beltway Insiders, Oh My! (none / 0)

Aravosis beat back Ford, MSFT, and outed Jeff Gannon.

CREW is generating local press coverage all over the country on GOP corruption.

Mike Stark is melting down O'Reilly.

Glenn Greenwald broke a major piece of the NSA story.

Jane Hamsher helped shape Plame coverage and got the journalistic community to turn against Judy Miller.  She also whacked Deborah Howell and the meme that Abramoff gave to both sides.


by Matt Stoller on Tue Mar 14, 2006 at 09:02:41 AM EST
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Re: Lieberman, McCain, Beltway Insiders, Oh My! (none / 0)

Matt I'm on your side, but don't piss on doctors.  They give up more than you can imagine to have the privilege to treat patients.  You sound like an idiot when you say

"doctors don't really care about you because they are paid to avoid mistakes with paperwork."

Just because medical associations donate to the GOP doesn't mean the profession is corrupt, dumbsh*t.  Not everyone politicizes every aspect of their job.     Caring about your patients has nothing to do with with your political party.  I see shitty republican and democratic physicians every day in the hospital.  

Moreover, there are a lot of physicians working to improve our medical system.  Even the AMA (a organization that I despise) has come out in favor of some form of nationalized health care.

I suggest you try to pull your head out of your ass before piss on the medical profession


by rajk on Mon Mar 13, 2006 at 11:03:49 PM EST

Re: Lieberman, McCain, Beltway Insiders, Oh My! (3.00 / 1)

Then I would suggest that they start reforming the AMA, and stop supporting republicans.

They are all members of the AMA.  The AMA lobbies to protect itself as much as it does patients.  But they're supposed to be more concerned with patients.

So if what you say is true, then they need to redirect the AMA to do likewise, and get Universal Healthcare, instead of funding wealthy and privileged schmucks like lieberman.

If someone cares about you, but can't give you the time of day, what does it matter that they care?


by DuckmanGR on Tue Mar 14, 2006 at 12:44:08 AM EST
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Piss on doctors (none / 0)

Caring about patients has everything to do with supporting universal health care for all Americans. Whatever work physicians and physicians groups have done has been incredibly ineffective hasn't it?

The medical profession has been corrupted by material self interest and is incapable of policing itself to control medical malpractice. The discipline system for doctors is a pathetic joke entirely deserving of ridicule. For every good doctor who is working to reform America's cruel health care system there are ten feeding at the trough and rolling in the filthy lucre of exorbitant fees.

Nurse's are underpaid and overworked. Doctors, as a whole, are overpaid and exceptionally greedy.


by Gary Boatwright on Tue Mar 14, 2006 at 04:02:02 AM EST
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Re: Lieberman, McCain, Beltway Insiders, Oh My! (3.00 / 1)

Just because medical associations donate to the GOP doesn't mean the profession is corrupt, dumbsh*t.  Not everyone politicizes every aspect of their job.     Caring about your patients has nothing to do with with your political party.  I see shitty republican and democratic physicians every day in the hospital.  

Moreover, there are a lot of physicians working to improve our medical system.  Even the AMA (a organization that I despise) has come out in favor of some form of nationalized health care.

I suggest you try to pull your head out of your ass before piss on the medical profession

Socialized Medicine (see, I use the"S" word).
You're either for it or agin' it, and, frankly as someone who lived in Canada for 14 years, I have seen that it does work.
Heck, it works everywhere in the world EXCEPT here.
And the reason it doesn't work here is because the A.M.A had been paying it's lobbyists to convince our law-makers that is won't work.
Care to tell me who pays the A.M.A.?

And "some form of nationalized health care" wimpy words indeed.


by Max Bialystock on Tue Mar 14, 2006 at 09:36:50 AM EST
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One word. (none / 0)

Joellatio.  The love whose mouth is too full of marbles to speak its name.


by Crablaw on Mon Mar 13, 2006 at 11:36:18 PM EST

Re: One word. (none / 0)

That wouldn't be related to Cellatio, would it?


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by HellofaSandwich on Tue Mar 14, 2006 at 01:32:16 AM EST
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Re: One word. (none / 0)

I don't know that term.


by Crablaw on Tue Mar 14, 2006 at 09:25:38 AM EST
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Re: One word. (none / 0)

On reflection, I think my joke here was in questionable taste.  I still don't like Lieberman but I was probably unfair with this nasty snark.


by Crablaw on Sat Jul 22, 2006 at 04:50:23 PM EST
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The Bard would be proud. (none / 0)

You remind me of Kent talking to Oswald, in King Lear (yes, I often study for Shakespeare midterms while reading MyDD. you wanna fight about it?) Here's what the Earl of Kent calls Lieberman (err, Oswald):

"A knave, a rascal, an eater of broken meats; a base, proud, shallow, beggarly, three-suited, lily-livered, action-taking, whoreson, glass-glazing, superserviceable, finical rogue; one-trunk-inheriting slave; one that wouldst be a baws in way of good service... one whom I will beat into clamorous whining if thou deniest the least syllable of thy addition."

(Same observation available on the Elect Al Weed blog.)


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by msnook on Tue Mar 14, 2006 at 01:54:59 AM EST

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We have this phenomenon of would-be-leaders unable to adapt to the rapidly changing world.  Lieberman is the prime example of this.


by Bob H on Tue Mar 14, 2006 at 07:02:23 AM EST

Re: Lieberman, McCain, Beltway Insiders, Oh My! (none / 0)

Wow. I think Matt needs a hug.


by Epitome22 on Tue Mar 14, 2006 at 08:52:31 AM EST

Re: Lieberman, McCain, Beltway Insiders, Oh My! (none / 0)

Yes I do.


by Matt Stoller on Tue Mar 14, 2006 at 09:00:18 AM EST
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Re: Lieberman, McCain, Beltway Insiders, Oh My! (none / 0)

I can't figure these posts out.  In one post there is praise for Tom Suozzi, a hyper ambitious "different kind of Democrat" who is for limiting abortion rights, against gay marriage and flirted with running for NY Gov as Repub.  In the next post, there is a flogging of Barack Obama and Nancy Pelosi.

I am not sure what Obama has done wrong.  Pelosi is not a particularly good House leader but she has a very strong history of being an advocate of progressive causes.  Is she in the wrong position?  Probably.  But remember she has lead the fight on a whole bunch of important issues over the years including AIDS funding, abortion rights and holding China accountable for their horrible human rights record.  She is not a horrible conservative.

From what I can tell, Suozzi good.  Obama and Pelosi bad.  Did I miss something?


by John Mills on Tue Mar 14, 2006 at 10:50:27 AM EST

Re: Lieberman, McCain, Beltway Insiders, Oh My! (none / 0)

Yes, you missed something.  I didn't praise Suozzi.


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