Chaos At The Southern Republican Leadership Conference

Earlier, I'd said I was really looking forward to finding out the results of the 2008 straw poll being held at the Southern Republican Leadership Conference this weekend in Memphis. I take it back. It seems that Republican infighting has likely rendered the results largely useless. Taegan Goddard of Breaking Blue fame (who also writes for a little site called Political Wire) uncovered two interesting and related stories out of the SRLC.

First, John McCain, one of the clear front-runners for the 2008 nomination, decided to throw a monkey wrench into the whole process by telling conference-goers not to vote for him, but rather to write-in President Bush's name instead. "For the next three years," McCain said, "with the country at war, he's our President, and the only one who must have our support today." It's an eye-roller to be sure, but if you're thinking this is McCain once again sucking up to Bush, it's not that simple. I'll come back to this in a bit.

The real chaos kicked in when Trent Lott, himself a McCain ally, attacked the credibility of the straw poll's results, saying that it was being fixed in favor of Bill Frist. Here's what he told CNN.

"Frist is bussing people in," Lott said, referring to Senate Majority Bill Frist (R-Tennessee), whose political organization is working to ensure he wins this unscientific early test of election viability. "These are not real delegates. These are people being bussed in to produce the results. It is a rigged deal. It doesn't matter."

That possibility -- that Frist might bus supporters to Memphis for the event -- is one that I raised in my first post about the SRLC. And if it turned out to be true, then Lott's suspicions might have been correct. But crying to CNN about a rigged election before the election's even held is pretty unfair, as it prejudges the outcome and calls the validity of the whole process into question.

What's so interesting to me about these stories is the fact that the only two people openly trying to wreck the straw poll are McCain and one of his supporters. In urging attendees not to vote for him and instead write in Bush, McCain set himself up in a position where he can't lose. It's a total cop out in that, if he performs poorly, he can point to the fact that he wasn't trying to win anyway, going so far as to endorse someone else. And Lott calling the whole process "rigged" by Frist is the icing on that cake, stripping what remained of the poll's credibility. This is nothing but scorched earth. McCain obviously didn't feel he was strong enough to win the poll, so he had to tear it apart instead.



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There is fixing, wtf? (none / 0)

It could almost be funny.


by Citizen80203 on Sat Mar 11, 2006 at 10:47:32 AM EST

Re: Chaos At The Southern Republican Leadership Co (none / 0)

Good grief.  This reminds me of the vote for House Majority Leader that had to be repeated after it became apparent that the election had been rigged.  Republicans can't even hold an honest election within their own party.


by sethco on Sat Mar 11, 2006 at 11:40:24 AM EST

Give 'em credit (3.00 / 1)

Actually, I don't think there's anything necessarily unfair about what McCain's doing. In fact, as a watcher of politics, I love the boldness of the strategy (blow-up the straw poll) and the cleverness of the tactical gambit they chose to employ (vote for Bush).

It's fair to say that the absurd level of attention being paid to this conference is in large part a product of the increasingly irresponsible, ADHD-like behavior of The Hotline and it's cult-like following inside-the-beltway. Apparently, the 2008 presidential contest isn't moving fast enough for Mr. Chuck Todd so he just opted to pay in full to run a straw poll at this arbitrarily selected conference, and spend months hyping it in Washington.

What's scary is that, you just know, Chuck Todd's got something similar planned for the Democratic side. Who else suspects that the CA Democratic State Convention in late April gets turned into a straw poll?


by blueflorida on Sat Mar 11, 2006 at 12:01:06 PM EST

Re: Give 'em credit (none / 0)

I don't disagree that it is a clever move on McCain's part. But the thing is, the reason he's doing it is that he's afraid he would lose.


by Scott Shields on Sat Mar 11, 2006 at 12:20:28 PM EST
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Re: Give 'em credit (none / 0)

Oh, yes, it's certainly motivated by fear of losing. However, he could have just not shown up at all, and he would have a ready-made excuse. By both showing up and still trying to kill the poll, he's also actively trying to deny victory momentum to any of his competitors, and it throws mud in the gears of the members of the political press with PhD's in Conventional Wisdom who were preparing to use the SRLC as an excuse to write the predictable and damaging "Southern conservative reject McCain" article.


by blueflorida on Sat Mar 11, 2006 at 12:36:37 PM EST
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Re: Give 'em Hell (3.00 / 1)

I think the headline coming out of such a straw poll should be something along the lines of:

"Republicans think the next crop of candidates are worse than Bush!"

or

"Out of touch with America? The Republican Leadership would reelect Bush if given the chance"

With his approval ratings in the mid-30s, I would love to have every candidate for Congress on the record saying they though Bush was doing a great job. Imagine all the talking points for the Democrats:

"[insert Republican name here] thinks President Bush is doing a great job as President. And would reelect him if given the chance..."

-The biggest push in President Bush's second term was privatizing Social Security. Does my opponent support the Bush plan?"

-Would my opponent follow President Bush's lead and allow his staff to leak classified information to the media in order to smear political critics? If he found out they did, would he continue to employ them?"

-Does my opponent agree with how the Bush Administration has handled the war in Iraq?"

-Does my opponent think the Bush Administration did a great job dealing with Hurricane Katrina?"

-Does my opponent agree with the Bush Administration that handing control of our ports over to foreign countries was simply good business?"

etc.


by joc on Sat Mar 11, 2006 at 02:57:14 PM EST
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Re: Chaos (none / 0)

Don't you just get the feeling that McCain is going to have a tough time in the Republican primaries and may end up saying a few things that he could regret should he get the nomination?

Bush's treatment of McCain last time round may have been brutal but it worked and I can see a few of the other contenders thinking this is the way to go if they want to get the nomination.

As for this particular vote I think McCain's move is not at all smart. It will just annoy the others.


by kundalini on Sat Mar 11, 2006 at 12:32:06 PM EST

I like the sound of that (none / 0)

of McCain being forced to take certain extreme positions (like ID) and/or  being swiftboated again. Either way, he is the Republican who worries me the most, if he gets the GOP nomination.


"Once in a while you get shown the light In the strangest of places if you look at it right"
by molly bloom on Sat Mar 11, 2006 at 01:20:12 PM EST
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Re: Chaos At The SRLC (3.00 / 1)

This may well be a ploy by the McCain forces to prevent a "true" reading of sentiment.  On the other hand, a Frist move to show strength would play right into my thought about the rumours swirling around a Cheney resignation.  I have thought for a while now that the perfect replacement for Cheney would be Bill Frist.  
  Think about it, he follows orders well(to the best of his ability), he would be no threat to W, the nutcases like him even though he is inept, and this would set them up for a VP to run to "Continue the Great Work" and not change teams in the middle of the GWOT.  Slightly off topic; sorry about that but I wanted to see what others might think.
by Demo Dan in Dayton on Sat Mar 11, 2006 at 12:45:16 PM EST

Entertaining, but not fair to Lott. (none / 0)

Why is it "pretty unfair" to point out that an upcoming election has been rigged?  Surely that's more credible than doing so after the fact, when it would sound like sour grapes.    

Listen, if Lott had been swept out to sea by Katrina along with his house I'd never miss him, but if he's right about Frist's scam, now is the time to expose it.


by lonemorriscodem on Sat Mar 11, 2006 at 04:09:52 PM EST

Re: Chaos At The Southern Republican Leadership Co (none / 0)

So do we have a front page "Republicans in Disarray..." Post article to look forward to?


by paida on Sat Mar 11, 2006 at 04:10:38 PM EST

I'm not so sure about a couple of points (none / 0)

It seems better to complain about rigging beforehand than to wait until after you've lost and then complain, when it looks entirely like sour grapes.

Also, it's not true that McCain can't lose. He's told his supporters to write in Bush's name, so if Bush doesn't win the straw poll, McCain loses.

Still, the main point about McCain wrecking the straw poll does hold.


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by KCinDC on Sat Mar 11, 2006 at 04:14:03 PM EST

Re: Chaos (none / 0)

If the republicans nominate Frist as their Presidential candidate, that would be a gift to the Democrats.
All we would need to do is continuously run that clip of him commenting on Terri Schiavo, claiming she responds to visual stimulation, when in fact she was blind.
by Horus45 on Sun Mar 12, 2006 at 12:15:39 PM EST

Re: Chaos At The Southern Republican Leadership... (none / 0)

"'Frist is bussing people in,' Lott said,"

"Bussing" is kissing; to transport by bus is "busing."

The image of Frist kissing lots of supporters is unsettling, to say the least.

Unless it's the behinds of lobbyists - those he busses!


by larryepke on Mon Mar 13, 2006 at 04:50:33 PM EST

Re: Chaos At The Southern Republican Leadership Co (none / 0)

What about Mitt Romney's showing though?  That was surprising to see a 1-term and done governor of Massachusetts and mormon do well in evangelical christian Tennesse.  

I wonder if you add McCain's vote total to Bush's do you get a first place?


by DaveB on Mon Mar 13, 2006 at 07:02:05 PM EST

Re: Chaos At The Southern Republican Leadership Co (none / 0)

It's five days later, but what the hell -- I hate leaving questions unanswered.

Romney also brought along a small army of supporters to vote for him. He just did it much more quietly than Frist.

And no, if you add McCain + Bush, it was still a weak performance.


by Scott Shields on Sat Mar 18, 2006 at 03:32:35 PM EST
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