MyDD Poll: The Structure of the Voter Universe, Part 1

From the diaries--Chris

Well, this is a bit of a celebratory day, as the psychographic (extended) analysis of the MyDD Poll begins and I also received Crashing The Gate this morning. What timing! Jerome and Markos featured some of our discussion  about psychographic research in The Gravy Train chapter. So the book hits and here at MyDD we're `right in tune' with them, driving the ball down the field a la the West Coast Offense, and already applying some of the knowledge, information and recommendations they've generated in the book. Love it. Karma is on our side, it would seem.

Let's get started. This part of the analysis is the most important, folks. At least in my view. It's the most comprehensive, deep, multi-layered and consistently revealing method of analyzing data because it respects the complexity of humans, highlights it even, and rigorously goes through a dataset looking for embedded patterns of response that are not evident through simple demographic crosstabulation. It's a CAT-scan of the data, basically.

A quick word on background of this method is in order. It's a further development of Max Weber's concept of ideal types. My Masters' Thesis in 1982, `Typifications, Ideal Types and Research Methodologies', was a philosophy of science discussion combining Weber with key concepts from phenomenology and symbolic interactionism, proposing an integrated, holistic applied research approach anchored in psychological ideal types.

Arnold Miller's The Nine American Lifestyles was the seminal work, in my view, taking psychographics into the `real world' of applied research. Miller's work was so influential that SRI International opened a corporate division to market and support the method, known as VALS (Values and Lifestyles). They use it only as a market research tool, however.

The next big jump, into the political sphere, came from the Pew Center for The People and The Press. In the late `80's they started conducting psychographic surveys about every four years focusing on political issues and developed their own typology. Their latest, Beyond Red vs. Blue, was published last year. It's excellent work, although their method is very simple, in my view.

Personally, I've been doing psychographic research since the early `90's, specifically for political/public policy communications and campaign contexts. I've tested and extended the method to be very precise, robust and informative. When applied effectively in communications, this stuff really works. I shit you not.

So with that intro, let's get into it. First things first. Think `themes' and `groups', people. Themes and groups. That's the big picture. We're looking for patterns inside the data that relate to underlying themes and groups of voters. And then, when we find them, we'll see how they behave, what they mean and then the strategic communications implications.

We'll start with the end, the seven identified groups, so you can see how they behave on a few key questions from the survey. The names of the groups are fairly self-explanatory, although I'll flesh out quite a bit more detail on each later, maybe even in the next post if this intro one gets too long. Here's the breakdown nationally:

                                          Percent

Blue Core                           13%
Urban Blue                         17
Progressives                      11
Heartland Blue                   12
Heartland Red                    8
Trusting Boomers               6
Red Core                            33

First, a note on names. Notice they usually infer a demographic and a psychological aspect or state. Thus, `heartland', as in middle America, `blue', as in political views. Demographic, psychology. It's not always the case on names, but usually. Progressives, for example, I think is one where we all have a pretty good idea of what that means.

Next, three key points on the data right off the bat. One, note the size of the Red Core: 33%, by far the largest single group. That means  right-wing voters in this country are remarkably similar to each other in perceptions and outlook. Psychographics builds groups that are highly consistent internally, meaning whoever is in a given group thinks pretty much just like everybody else in that group. Thus, for the Red Core to comprise a third of the electorate truly highlights the `follower' nature, or lack of independent thinking or however you want to characterize it, of the right-wingers in this country. That may not be a shocker to you, but now it's a research finding, not somebody's opinion, guess, perception or predisposition. Big, big difference when it comes to developing strategy and communications, friends.

Second, God bless the blues, the diversified bastards. Sheesh, four groups, each quite different from the others, trying to hold a coalition together to beat back these Republi-Clones. A real snapshot of what herding cats is like, I say.

And, finally, overall these data reiterate the Grand Canyon political split in this country: 53% blue groups and 47% red groups. There you go.

Next, here are the groups on the first substantive question of the survey: the direction the US is headed.

                                                        Right               Wrong               Not
                                                         Direction         Track                Sure

United States                                    37%                 48%                 15%

Blue Core                                         13                     71                    16
Urban Blue                                         6                       86                    8
Progressives                                     11                     70                    19
Heartland Blue                                 10                     69                    21
Heartland Red                                  51                     32                    17
Trusting Boomers                              45                     31                    24
Red Core                                          75                     13                    12

Interesting, yes? You bet. Dubya and The Gang are in a bit o' shit. They can't pull half or more saying `right direction' from five of seven groups. Their only strong numbers are in the Red Core, their absolute base, and they lose a third each to `wrong track' among key supporters: Heartland Red and Trusting Boomers.

Further, strong majorities of the four `blue' groups are agreed in their perception the country is off on the wrong track. Only about one in ten of these groups are lost to right direction. In short, our side is agreed on this basic perceptual issue and theirs is hemorrhaging on it.

Let's take another one, even more politically substantive: should Congress investigate whether Dubs broke the law on the NSA gig and/or lied about WMD in Iraq.

                                                       Should                Neutral/        Should not
                                                        Investigate          Not Sure       Investigate

United States                                   44%                    15%              41%

Blue Core                                        90                        4                   6
Urban Blue                                      90                        3                   7
Progressives                                    80                        6                   14
Heartland Blue                                56                        11                 33
Heartland Red                                 35                        17                 48
Trusting Boomers                           22                        11                 67
Red Core                                         12                        8                   80

Again blues are united, with strong majorities in all four groups calling for investigation. Further, the issue bleeds off a third of Heartland Red, leaving the Preznit's side majorities in only two groups.

You may recall from my previous post that I advocated hitting this specific issue hard over the entire mid-term election cycle and, further, my advocacy was based on some of the psychological dynamics I saw in the data, rather than demographics. These data support that conclusion, strongly. They  even clarify the strategic opportunity further: this issue clearly is one our side rallies around and, importantly, it also splits a key constituency of their side. Dang, that's a `go for it' proposition if I ever saw one. I wonder if the DLC is listening? Heh.

So, continuing on in this intro `tree-tops' view of the psychographics, let's look at a couple of themes the analysis found. Response patterns show certain questions are `connected' to others, usually 2 to 5 questions indicate a single theme. When you find those connections, the issue becomes what theme underlies them? Defining that underlying theme sometimes is easy, clear cut and sometimes it's a bit of research art. In my view, it always boils down to practicality: is the defined theme one that is practical, useful and informative in the context of the research? Is it helping understand, explain and even predict? If so, rock on. If not, either go back and try again or drop it and move on.

Here are the questions indicating one of the themes in the data:

1.    Worry the US will be attacked by terrorists in the next year,
2.    Worry that Osama hasn't been captured,
3.    Rating on feelings of personal safety/security since 9/11.

So what theme underlies being worried about an attack, worried OBL is still on the loose and feeling less safe/secure since 9/11? In my view, it's fear. Fear encompasses perceived threats: attacks and OBL. Fear is based on perceived personal insecurity: I'm less safe now than then. Fear, cynically grown and harvested by this Administration for five long years. And captured in our data.

Here's how the groups lay out when crosstabbed with the fear theme:

                                           Fearful*           Neutral*           Not fearful*

United States                      40%                  19%                 41%

Blue Core                            9                        13                    78
Urban Blue                         82                       14                    4
Progressives                       53                       32                    14
Heartland Blue                   29                       28                    43
Heartland Red                    17                       22                    61
Trusting Boomers              0                          8                       92
Red Core                           15                        18                      67

(Note: These numbers are standardized by the statistical procedure. That means they're forced into a normal distribution, popularly known as a Bell Curve. Here's how to interpret them properly: We can't say with confidence that 40% of the American electorate is fearful...because of standardization. We can, however, say with great confidence that Urban Blues and Progressives are more likely to be fearful than the overall electorate. So it's the comparison of groups to the US numbers that yields a finding, not the specific numbers themselves.)

The most interesting finding to me in this table is who's not fearful. First, you have the two partisan extremes, Blue and Red Core. So, ginning up fear is not going to appreciably affect those who are most ideological. Hmm. That makes sense, actually. Why would they be more fearful given communications and perceptions delivered by the Preznit when they have the certainty of their ideology to interpret information through? In short, Blue Core may perceive Condi's `mushroom clouds' as a blatantly political manipulation, with little or no likelihood of occurring, while Red Core may perceive the same statement as proof positive that `Dubya's got it covered, he's on it, he ain't gonna let it happen'. No fear, either way. See?

Then there's the T-Boomers. And they are Trusting, these guys. They trust Dubs on everything: jobs, safety, Homeland Security, NSA, etc., etc. Everything. I'll talk more about them in the next post, but suffice it to say for now these guys are Robo-voters, Borg-like. In my view, if these guys can be broken down on Dubs, even though it's a small voter group overall, then we've cracked their genetic code.

And, one final theme just to give you a taste of how effective Dubs and Rove have been. And how dangerous their operation really is.  Here's the questions that connect together in a single theme:

1.    The US is headed in the right direction,
2.    Pretest approval of Dubs' job performance,
3.    Posttest approval of Dubs' job performance,
4.    Support the March, 2003 invasion of Iraq,
5.    Support keeping 100,000+ troops in Iraq for years,
6.    Support Murtha's plan for troop deployment regarding Iraq,
7.    Believe Congress should not investigate whether Dubs broke the law,
8.    Oppose impeachment even if Dubs broke the law,
9.    OK for the NSA to bypass courts and spy on citizens,
10.    Trust the NSA to monitor only those who are a potential national security threat.

Whaddya think? What's this theme? What's common to all these positions? Uh, I'll take `Bush Meme' for $2000, Alex.  

That's what I see. Many of the `big boys' from the poll are in there, in this theme. Job performance, Iraq, NSA, impeachment. A stunning array, and wide variety, of Bush positions/issues tested in the MyDD Poll, all connected to each other. Subtly, under the surface. In my view, the result of a coherent, consistent and relentless narrative, internalized by voters over the past 5+ years, providing them the frame of reference, the `anchor points', to respond favorably to Dubya on just about any issue whatsoever. Wow. A stunner, indeed.

The scope of this theme, and how thoroughly it has permeated the American electorate, is simply breathtaking to me. I've been doing this work for well over a decade and I don't recall any findings, at any time, on any issue, anywhere that approach this one. It's like the mythological Hydra; you cut off one head and another springs up immediately. Shee-it.

Here's the Bush Meme crosstab table with the groups:

                                                    Positive toward                                  Negative toward
                                                     Bush Meme*              Neutral*         Bush Meme*

United States                                43%                            16%                41%

Blue Core                                     1                                  5                     94
Urban Blue                                   13                                22                   65
Progressives                                  5                                 15                   80
Heartland Blue                             41                                29                   30
Heartland Red                              83                                7                     10  
Trusting Boomers                        95                                3                      2
Red Core                                      70                                16                   14

(*Standardized numbers, as before. Compare groups to the US numbers for an accurate finding.)

As they say in The Music Man: "Trouble, trouble, trouble in River City". Yep, that would be the case. Danger Will Robinson. Big time. Notice how the red groups light up on this theme. Big numbers, across all their groups. Lows in the neutral spot and on the negative end. Almost all of them eat this stuff up, folks. It's their crack cocaine and our campaigns had better recognize that. Yesterday.

Further, this theme cuts into our Heartland people. Big, a plurality even. Thus, it's not just a defensive weapon, shoring up existing support for Dubs, this thing is big time offense, cutting directly into our muscle, bones. We're talking blitzkrieg versus the Maginot Line, if you get my drift.

And you can be sure Oberleutnant Rove gets it. He already told us flat out what he was going to do in 2006: stoke fear and make Goopers the No New Attacks, Everything's Cool heroes. Fuuuck, man. It's there for the taking. They've set it up perfectly, know how to play it from previous elections and have every intention of doing precisely that, evidently.

This is why I'm very, very skeptical of the `wave theory' for this year's election cycle, regardless of Bush approval numbers, partisan Congressional elect/re-elect, yadda, yadda. I just don't think it's a throw the bums out gig for the Goopers, given their strategy/messaging and, most importantly, the incompetence of our campaigns and advice coming out of the Beltway.

People may be disgusted by these Gooper criminals and incompetents, and reflect that in surface measures like Right Direction/Wrong Track. However, we now know many, if not most, voters also have been infected by the Bush Flu, a.k.a. Bush Meme. Most of our professional campaign idiots haven't even figured out anybody's sick yet, much less developed a vaccine.

'So, hold on, just a little bit tighter now, baby'. More is coming on this stuff. And now we're locked on to the Trail Of Solutions, instead of the Trail Of Tears.

Keep the faith.



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Re: MyDD Poll: The Structure of the Voter Universe (none / 0)

How different are these groups if you did the poll using a more politically timeless study? (i.e. If you ask questions about support of abortion/gay rights/tax cuts/social security/etc?) These divisions are obviously not a suddenly new phenomena, but probably some repackaging of an existing phenomena. It would be interesting to know how basic groups fit into the current groups. Are certain groups more likely to become Bush dogmatics? What are the characteristics of the two "heartland" groups that cause them to deviate from the core?

Damn this stuff is interesting. You've already gone so far beyond the Pew stuff and the amount of data you have is so limited. This is why we have to develop a liberal/progressive think tank-type institute. You need money to do these studies full time... Argh, I want more!


PrairieStateBlue - Open Source Politics (formerly SoapBlox/Chicago)
by ltsply2 on Tue Feb 28, 2006 at 07:51:26 PM EST

Re: MyDD Poll: The Structure of the Voter Universe (none / 0)

I'm going to be giving you everything I've got, everything I see. That includes the data, crosstabs. We'll already get some directions on the questions you pose. At least some, if not all. And we'll keep plugging away, building our knowledge and strength. That's how I see it.

Thank you so much for the rubs. I truly mean it. When I read your suggestion that we need our own operations/institute/research, there's just no way I could possibly agree with you more. And I'd love to be a part of that. You've put your finger on what I believe is the crucial point for America today. Forget everything else. I can't point to a single institution that has it together or is not broke/broken: any level of government, media, business, military, political party or organization, you name it. There's no one but us left. If we, ourselves, don't make positive change, force positive change, nothing will change for the better. As always, the first step in recovery is understanding the problem in order to solve it. Like the original Sun Tzu said, you must understand the battlefield before you can win. It's a prerequisite. I'm hopeful, though. I do honestly see good, important things happening. That's why I sign off with Keep the Faith.


by Sun Tzu on Wed Mar 01, 2006 at 03:27:25 PM EST
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Re: MyDD Poll (none / 0)

I don't understand the Pew study. It seems to regard the Democratic and Republican parties as opposite poles and to arrange its voter groups between them. Now Pew has a much larger (and better randomized) sample than any one of us. But Pew's basic assumptions contradict my experience, as do its results. (I find the Political Compass more informative, and will refer to it below).

Now who ever met anyone more authoritarian or further right than the Republican leadership? (I was picketting outside a Nazi meeting recently, but is that an exception?) And who hasn't met someone more libertarian or further left than the Democratic leadership? (Let's take the Iraq war as an example. The Republican leadership supports it. The Democratic leadership mostly supports it. The American public does not.)

I can't figure out Pew's methodology, but do they confirm, or merely assume, that the parties lie at opposite corners of the political polyhedron?


by Left for the Left on Tue Feb 28, 2006 at 10:58:02 PM EST

Re: MyDD Poll (none / 0)

Really great question, thanks for asking it. I don't speak for Pew, obviously, but I do have great respect for them as researchers, and their director Andy Kohut. My view of this issue with them is I doubt they assume (or design in) the continuum (Dem...Rep) you note. I think they show and discuss the results their method produces, regardless of this. After all, the report title is 'Beyond Red vs. Blue', so they're trying to move beyond this level of analysis/thought.

There is a 'however', though. I'll have to get a little philosophy of science-y on you. There is going to be some level of validity to such a continuum because, here we go, that's what most Americans think is the case. We're trained from the get-to to think politically in bipoloar terms: Dem...Rep. Civics class, real world experience (a la voter registration, ballots), media positioning, etc. Our experience, active or passive, is our reality.

And so we do think that way to some degree or another, the degree being an individual or small group level of variation. Because we do, researchers like me and Pew will find it. When we do, we report and discuss it. Depending on how you frame it, such a continuum is either a primary or a secondary consideration. Because most researchers (e.g., Beltway pollsters) live (are immersed) in that bipolar reality, it's a primary consideration, not secondary, and they focus way too much attention and importance to it. It is lazy, in my view, but it's not a surprise. At all.

Thus, in the end, someone like Pew probably needs to overlay the Dem...Rep continuum on their interpretations because that's what people, especially insiders, understand and value. You'll even see me talking about such a continuum because it's a widely-understood point of reference for the audience. The difference is emphasis. To me, psychology, what and how people think, is always a much, much better indicator/predictor than a demographic or characteristic. So I always see a variety of blues, a variety of reds and a variety of independents/non-aligned.

Finally, I just quickly noted this in the post but here's another aspect of this issue  regarding Pew. It appears to me from their methods statements (I haven't talked or confirmed with them) that they run cluster analysis on their data to get their groups. (My beef is it appears cluster is all they do with the data.) Cluster analysis is, this is literally true, a three-dimensional manipulation of numbers. It's like the solar system, in a sense. It builds little balls of people in space, clusters/planets, that are comprised of numbers/molecules some that are higher (lower) than others, some farther (nearer) than others and some on the left (right). In short, because cluster is 3-D and Pew uses it, that tells me they're thinking more in 3-D terms than a simple Dem...Rep linear continuum.

All this doesn't help with your very valid point, I realize. We still get the linear continuum dominating analyses and, thus, strategies and execution. However, at least you know a little more about why and, hopefully, you know not everybody (me!) buys it being the crucial way of understanding the data.


by Sun Tzu on Wed Mar 01, 2006 at 02:57:16 PM EST
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Re: MyDD Poll (none / 0)

Thanks.

I didn't mean to suggest that Pew's model was one-dimensional. I just want to know how much of active public opinion fits within the range of the Democratic and Republican party leaderships and how much stands outside it. The 'conventional wisdom' has taught that leftists trust government and rightists distrust it. Pew has observed that many rightists trust government (i.e. big-government conservatives) but has, for good or bad reasons, missed that many leftists distrust government, and center their political views, and positions, and organization around this distrust. I myself place myself in that last category; I know this skews both my observations and my interpretations of them; I suspect the choice and structure of the questions dilutes certain viewpoints (what should government do here, what should government do there, but rarely, what should government stop doing here, e.g. stop subsidising the oil industry, etc., etc.).


by Left for the Left on Wed Mar 01, 2006 at 11:57:58 PM EST
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What's Under The Hood, Dude??? (none / 0)

First off, I want to know what's behind those numbers.  

(1) What are those groupings based on?  What's their significance?  And to what extent do they correlate with more stable, standard demographic variables--age, race, income kinds of things. I know Pew does this sort of breakdown on theirs, for instance.  I don't think we get as much out of this exercise if we don't know who these groups are.  

(2) What are correlations for the items in the Bush meme?  What items are most central to it?

(3) How do the Bush meme and the level of fear correlate?  

It seems to me that--as I said before in a previous comment--I think the lack of fear is primarily trust in Bush. (It makes sense, though, that there's another source of lack of fear, for the Blue Core, just as you explain it.  I know that describes me pretty well, as well as some other folks I know.)  So how well does this thesis hold up?

Second, I must say that the Bush meme doesn't surprise me a bit.  I've always seen Bush's support as depending on the Big Lie: Bush is a strong, powerful, honest, trustworthy servant of God, blah, blah, blah.  And this seems to me to be the heart of the Bush meme. Projecting this message has been the core of Rove's strategy at least since 1999.

The manufactured attacks on Gore's honesty were one early manifestation of that. So, too, was Bush's personalization of the campaign. Not just the giving reporters nick-names thing, but also the strategy of responding to criticisms or questions about his policies and his record in Texas as if people were questioning his motives.  This has broadened into the all-purpose foundation of the entire Bush regime: any questioning of Bush's policies is treated as a personal attack, and is responded to with what actually are personal attacks.

Third, I think that this whole approach is starting to crumble--which is why a realigning election is a distinct possiblity, even despite the Democrat's astonishing level of incompetence.    The main thing holding Bush up right now is the Beltway establishment.  They simply, absolutely refuse to pay attention to what it is happening in the country right now, to the plummet in Bush's popularity, to pile-up of his multiple failures (Katrina, Iraq, Medicare Drug Benefit, [remember going to Mars, anyone?] etc.), or to the gap between the macro-economic "recovery" we're supposedly in and the reality of people's lives.  So long as they keep doing that, they uphold the substrate that the Bush meme lives on.  

But the Bush meme can't live on that substrate alone.  It needs its oxygen as well--something big that at least appears to be real--and the oxygen just isn't there. What's more, as GOP Congressmembers--and Governors--get more and more worried about re-election, the substrate itself will start to dissolve.

Yes, I know that the GOP is gearing up to run on fear again, with Great White Frat Boy to protect us.  I'm just saying that there are very good reasons to think that it just won't work this time.  And I think the Dubai Port Deal Meltdown is more than a harbinger, it's an early example of that.

(A further problem is that the fearmongering attack on immigrants they want to run on will permamently lose them the Latino vote, which they've expended a great deal of effort to try to win over.  And they know it.  So they're going to have a difficult time throwing themselves wholeheartedly into it.)

Fourth, if there's a chance I'm right, if the opportunity is out there, then it seems to me that we in the netroots ought to be thinking about developing our own, independent strategy for how to impact the election, regardless of what the Democrat's strategy is.  By asking the right questions about that right now, we can work our way towards figuring out what we can do, and then field test it in another MyDD poll in a few months.

Fifth, last, and totally off topic, it was my understanding that the VALS program came out of Maslow's hierarchy of needs.  I somewhat knew one of the people who was brought in to work on it, James Ogilvy, who prior to that wrote Many Dimensional Man: Decentralizing Self, Society, and the Sacred, an off-take on Marcuse, naturally, which remains one of the most interesting reads out there to this day.


by Paul Rosenberg on Tue Feb 28, 2006 at 11:03:01 PM EST

Re: What's Under The Hood, Dude??? (none / 0)

I also found the Pew Typology Study: Beyond Red & Blue most thought provoking. Pew gives us the benefit of showing how their typologies break down by various demographics, such as region, gender, race, etc. Also, I'm sure that Pew has time-lines on their data.

Sun-tzu surely has data and cross-tabs similar to the Pew report for his categories, and maybe he could give us a more general report on his methodology along the lines of the Pew study. (I like this stuff.)

But, here we find him going beyond his theory and into the application of his experience to the polling questions at hand. He tells us he identifies clusters of questions he finds significant enough that he gives them a name "fear" or "bush-meme".

I agree with Paul, that we have indications Bush is losing support beyond his core. It seems that the right wing here in Colorado is having a hard time convincing the middle that religious fundamentalism and anti-government libertarianism are attractive.

The Bush-meme appears to be very dependent on the Iraq-WOGT fear mongering. We can admit that Rove knows how to pull those levers, and we can imagine that they can wave the red flag again by bombing somebody the month before the election. But, public opinion on the war is going against them these days.


There's more of us than there is of them.
by MetaData on Wed Mar 01, 2006 at 01:36:44 AM EST
[ Parent ]

Re: What's Under The Hood, Dude??? (3.00 / 1)

Well, I just spent an hour and a half righting a comprehensive, thoughtful reply and lost it all because I wrote directly into the page, didn't refresh or preview. I'm obviously still a learning blogger. And my horoscope is a two-star today. I believe it.

Anyway, I'm going to zip through much of what I was saying. Detailed data and demos are coming. I'm definitely going to flesh out the groups for everyone. Correlations (more properly 'loads' in this stat routine) are all significant at .05 or better. The content of the themes (Questions) is specified in the original post. The original VALS (very important distinction), which I ran in this state for an ad agency years ago, tapped into Maslow for measurement ideas but it's not accurate to say the system was determined by Maslow's hierarchy. In the absence of basic needs stress (that is, you've got food, water, shelter, etc.), you might take one path or another in the system, depending primarily on what your worldview is: Achiever or Societally Conscious, for example. One is focused on economics, money, material things, while the other is focused on social issues/developement, non-material things. SRI re-vamped VALS in the mid-'90's and moved it much closer to a behavioral model much more based on Maslow. I know a good chunk of people for whom this was a disaster. Me included. And my friend Brooke Warrick, who was a top dog in the VALS program and left in disgust. He now does psychographic work primarily in the housing industry through his company American L.I.V.E.S. Helluva great guy. He's also a board member of the Commonweal Institute.

Now, on your thesis that lack of fear is primarily related to trust in Bush, I thought in the post I agreed with you on that. If it didn't come through, I agree with you on that. Two points, though. My agreement is based on logic, not hard data, as we didn't measure trust in Bush in the survey and, therefore, I cannot draw a data-based conclusion. Right now, I have to rely on logic based on conclusions from other aspects of the data we actually do have. Second, I also added another dimension to the overall question of the relationship of Bush trust and fear by hypothesizing that distrust lowers fear in Bush opponents. You caught that, good. I want to flesh all this out the next time we go into the field, because I believe it's that important and I believe you and I are both spot on target on this.

Now let's get down to it. We do disagree. You believe Bush is crumbling, supported only by the Beltway Establishment, that reality will set in and that there are good reasons to believe the Gooper strategy "just won't work this time."

I respectfully disagree on every point. One, generally speaking, it's my observation way too much emphasis/value is placed on surface level measurements. That would include right direction/wrong track, Bush job performance and generic congressional vote tests, among others. (And I recognize and don't dispute some historic correlation of the generic ballot test and outcomes, as Chris Bowers showed recently.) But, again generally speaking, if surface indicators were so indicative/predictive, then Dubs would not have been sworn in again because the right direction measure was dramatically against him and his job performance ratings were less than stellar.

Two, the Bush Meme shows Dubs has been much more successful, communications-wise, than perhaps others thought. I'm not surprised, and you weren't either. However, the Meme also means Dubs' support is a deeply ingrained, entrenched thread among many voters. It encompasses many, many dimensions: NSA, Iraq, yadda, yadda. We'll find more when we test for more, too. In short, that's a lot more and deeper support than the Beltway Establishment OR than will be indicated by job performance ratings/generic ballot tests, OR that will collapse 'when reality sets in.'

Three, 'reality' has set in. Dubs' and Rove's creation set in five years ago. The Meme shows it's the dominant reality. Events, issues or the current actions/strategy (heh) of the Dems isn't geared to change it. And won't, because they're too Establishment themselves to design effective strategy to do that. Especially not when it boils down to about 500 individual elections in November.

The truth, as I see it, is our campaign consultants and candidates are still clueless when it comes to recognizing the sophistication, and success, of Dubs/Rove and as exmplified in the Bush Meme in this poll. In short, most of our campaigns are, and likely will remain, failures because they literally don't understand the enemy they fight. The don't understand the battlefied, a la the original Sun Tzu.

Four, therefore, I have no reason to subscribe to the hope, hope mind you, that Gooper shit won't work this time. I'm of the opposite opinion: it's going to work and it's going to continue to work until we learn how to defeat it. Or get wiped off the map, literally. Learn to win, or die. That's what's at stake.

We'll not beat these guys out of office until we understand a simple point that I and a few other political professionals I know and have stressed for years, for me as recently as last fall with a US Senate candidate (and it fell flat, BTW): it's human qualities, stupid.

It's not the issues or positions on issues, as our Beltway idiots and CW believe and, to this very day, base their campaigns on. It's who you are as a person: honest, trustworthy, ethical, truthful, yadda, yadda. In short, voters make their decision based on the human qualities they see reflected in the candidate. They'll vote for a good, honest, strong guy even if they disagree on many issues with him. See the citation 'Bush, George W., and working and middle class voters'. (I made the citation up.)

You and another poster hit the nail on the head: we're going to have to do this stuff, effect elections, campaign, etc., ourselves. That's what Jerome and Markos' book concludes, I believe (haven't read it yet). It's where I'm coming from, though. For sure. And I'll be talking about my ideas in that regard in the future. In the now, my advice to everyone is don't hold your breath for '06, but keep the faith.


by Sun Tzu on Wed Mar 01, 2006 at 01:59:45 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Re: What's Under The Hood, Dude??? (3.00 / 1)

I agree with your general point, especially the human qualities point. It's the point where Democrats have been just clueless; it's like watching a blind man in a boxing match. Painful. [deleted digression about Howard Dean's chances in '04 ... nothing gets things off-topic like a Dean '04 discussion].

But why is 43% support for the constellation of "Bush Meme" really that bad? Especially when one of the major parts of it (the Murtha Plan), he doesn't even own. Am I misreading the numbers here?

I appreciate that the very fact that they can build a coalition of sorts around such disparate items shows a certain control over the debate and terms of that debate that is pretty amazing. But, in the end, support for the Bush Meme is low as a whole.

Here's my reading of the results, or more accurately, a path forward that the Democrats could easily take: support investigation into the NSA deal to shore up support among the core groups and bleed off a little Heartland Red. Then endorse the Murtha Plan (renamed the Korb Plan) and push it to break apart the Bush Meme coherence. Add in some domestic issues not covered here (health care, deficit, general competence), and I think the Democrats have a path for 2006.

However, for the "personality" election for President in 2008, Democrats better start thinking along these lines, and fast.


by BriVT on Wed Mar 01, 2006 at 02:44:15 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Re: What's Under The Hood, Dude??? (3.00 / 1)

BriVT,

As they say in the Guinness commercial: brilliant! I agree wholeheartedly and love your strategic approach to communications. That's exactly how to think about these numbers and break these Gooper bad dogs down. Exactly.

As I noted in the post, the Meme numbers are standardized by the stat routine which, on the face of it, precludes determining precisely what X% of voters buy it, don't, etc. So we don't know for sure if 43% buy it. It could be higher, or lower. Dunno yet. The way around that problem, though, is to manually build a scale, which I'm going to do later. I'll report the findings, if successful (I usually am.)

What concerns me most about the Meme at this point is its applicability, flexibility because of the breadth and depth and its crossover appeal, not the number 43%. This one little idea, 'follow Dubs, he's right', manifests itself in so many different ways in our data, even though we were so limited in interview time/political landscape we could cover. So, even with those limitations, this thing pops up covering a whole lot of issue turf.

And it appeals across a whole lot of voter turf. We can see that in the groups crosstab. So, between those two findings, and I'm confident in them, we're looking at some seriously spooky shit.

Further, to even see the serious spook, you have to look at what's underneath a combination of 10-12 questions. I don't think any of our guys even do that. None I know/heard of. So our campaigns, which the Beltway types are running, won't see it and certainly won't get its importance. They'll be blindsided when the Goops come up with something tapping directly into the Meme.

Think of the following as a hypothetical, a theoretical scenario. A thought experiment. (I've got some data to support the theory in another context which won't be hard to figure out. The data and findings are proprietary, though, and I can't go into it in-depth.) Anwyay, here's the hypothetical:

About May-ish, the Goops and their media minions start screaming about a 'War on Independence Day'. John Gibson writes a book and hawks it. Bobo O'Reilly jumps on it, Hannity, Malkin, the whole ugly crew. They allege 'liberals and seculars' are trying to kill off Independence Day because "American democracy is anathema to them." They keep the story alive, maybe even urging boycotts of businesses not properly 'celebrating' American freedom. The MSM picks it up: 'A War on Independence Day?' asks Brian Williams. And it goes on until after July 4th. Then...silence on it.

What would they have accomplished by such a silly exercise? The answer, according to my theory on this: a helluva lot, under the surface, not picked up on the political research radar. That exercise is exactly the kind of communications that plugs into the Bush Meme, activating, re-energizing it, making it manifest. Additionally, it sets up their voters, and any in close Meme proximity, to be fired up against us going right into the home stretch of the mid-terms. And our campaigns haven't a clue until the horse race numbers start turning bad. And by then it's too late.

That's the power of this thing, as I see it. And the danger as I see it. I worry greatly we're so behind the curve on strategic communications and the Meme is a perfect example in my view.


by Sun Tzu on Wed Mar 01, 2006 at 06:27:16 PM EST
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More Than Strategic Communication--Identity (none / 0)

Formation

When you talk about the Bush Meme this way, I think it's pretty clear that what you're talking about is what I'm writing about in my series on Conservative Identity Politics (installments so far: Intro, Hard Core Data, and Rightwing Authoritarianism), which was touched off by Glenn Greenwald's post a couple of weeks ago, over at Unclaimed Territory, "Do Bush followers have a political ideology?"

In that post, he argued the answer was "no," that they were just cultists.  But my response is that cultism is their ideology, and that there's a good rationale behind this, because cultism is a form of group identification (focused on the leader) and conservatism in general is likewise basically a politics of group identification.

One consequence of that is that what holds conservatism together is not issues, public policy, or even ideology.  After all, what do libertarians and Christian Reconstructionists have in common?  Rather, it's the same sorts of things that hold any group identity together--including very dumb stuff used with little league teams, building "school spirit" in high schools, etc., as well as the really nasty grown up stuff like ethnic cleansing and genocide.  Issue-oriented or reality-based it definitely is not.

So, I see what you're suggesting here as yet another example of the underlying picture I'm working to flesh out.  What this sort of manufactured furor is about identity formation (or maintenance).  It does much the same thing that McCarthyism did: stigmatize Democrats as "un-American," thereby casting Republicans as "true Americans."  It's particularly effective for conservatives, because there are multiple different sorts of factors that converge to make it more salient for them--a point I'm building up to in the series I'm working on.


by Paul Rosenberg on Wed Mar 01, 2006 at 09:13:10 PM EST
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Re: More Than Strategic Communication--Identity (none / 0)

Your and Sun Tzu's analyses are very interesting.  Immigration and the conflict between national Security and "free" markets (Dubai ports deal) are two obvious wedge issues for the Bushbots.  We probably don't need many.

It is amazing to me that anyone could feel that good about Bush after all the revelations about Katrina and war lies.  When support does peel off, it is gone for good.


by Mimikatz on Thu Mar 02, 2006 at 04:48:54 PM EST
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Re: What's Under The Hood, Dude??? (none / 0)

Thanks!

Further, to even see the serious spook, you have to look at what's underneath a combination of 10-12 questions.

That's what I'm really interested in. What's the connective tissue here? Is it pure "in Bush we trust"? And how does that translate beyond Bush the man?

Basically, what are the real buttons that can be pushed in people built around this? (I'm a filmmaker, so I'm used to thinking in symbolic, emotive communication)

There's something else going on here beyond simple "I trust the guy to do what's right," but I can't see the mechanism or how it translates to the broader GOP. Paul's work he cites below seem to be reaching toward the same stuff, but I'm really interested in what you see in the data.

Also, I'd be really, REALLY interested what your numbers would show post-Dubai Ports deal. This seems to really be working at the basic foundations of this ...


by BriVT on Thu Mar 02, 2006 at 07:27:12 AM EST
[ Parent ]

We're Talking Past Each Other, Somewhat (3.00 / 1)

I think we agree more than we realize, but the clumsiness of this medium (vs. being live, right there in the room with you, with facial gestures, intonation, instant feedback & all) goes beyond losing the occasional 90 minute masterpiece (as I myself have done on more than one occasion).

For instance, I was talking about where the VALS program came from back in the 70s.  Looks like it swung away from Maslow and back again, if I can put your account together with mine.  And I think the same sort of missing pieces situation applies to the question of how the GOP is going to do, whether Bush is crumbling, etc.

Because the bottom line is that we do agree on the fundamentals: the Dems aren't winning this.  If they do clean up in November, it will be because the GOP fucked up too much, not because the Dems learned how to fight them.  If the Dems had learned how to fight them, they would have had hearings on the NSA spying during Christmas--the same way that the GOP had impeachment hearing during Christmas.  They would have chased Alito out of DC with pitch-forks. Cheney would have been arrested for shooting a man in the face. And the GOP would lose about 100 seats in the House this November.  That's what the Dems knowing how to fight would look like, and we ain't seen anything remotely like that.  So we are fundamentally agreed.

Furthermore, if the Dems do gain one or both houses this year, then we will have to fight their added complacency that they will actually think it's because of their tactical and strategic brilliance.  So I'm quite aware that winning this year is a two-edged sword, and by no means the answer to the long-term challenge we face.  So, again, I would say we are fundamentally agreed.

Okay, so where do we disagree, and why do I think it's not that fundamental?

(1) When I say the GOPer shit won't work this time, and you say it will.  

It all depends on what the meaning of "work" is.  I agree with your underlying premise that it will continue to work until we, as a party, figure out how to defeat it.  But from where I stand, they could still lose one or both houses this election due to an accumulation of fuckups.  This is a long way from a crushing defeat for them, however, especially given the Dems pervasive cluelessness.

I think you are right that conventional indicators are not to be relied on, but neither can they simply be ignored.  (Bush did raise his job approval ratings in the last two months of the election, for example.  That was a crucial and conventional indicator.) I think they show a chance that the GOP fuckups have gone so long, so deep, that they will lose one or both houses this year.  Not a certainty, but a chance.    And I doubt that either of us thinks this is a major point when we both know we're talking about a long-term struggle.  Hence, no matter how far apart we are, I don't think it's a fundamental disagreement.

(2) The success of the Bush meme.  This is the one area where we may have a real significant disagreement.

You say "Dubs has been much more successful, communications-wise, than perhaps others thought," which I agree with.

But then you say, "the Meme also means Dubs' support is a deeply ingrained, entrenched thread among many voters. It encompasses many, many dimensions: NSA, Iraq, yadda, yadda. We'll find more when we test for more, too."

Well, yes and no. It encompasses many dimensions because it's basically just trust in Bush.  It's not about the issues at all, and therefore isn't all the well entrenched and ingrained--and espeically transferable to other GOP candidates.  And here I am agreeing with your ur-fundamental premise:

It's not the issues or positions on issues, as our Beltway idiots and CW believe and, to this very day, base their campaigns on. It's who you are as a person: honest, trustworthy, ethical, truthful, yadda, yadda.
This is how Bush has succeeded. It's the old Hollywood joke: Sincerity is the key to success. Once you can really fake sincerity, you can do anything.

So the one point where I do think we disagree is whether this is Beltway-driven.  And I, of course, include all the talk radio marching orders under the "Beltway-driven" rubric, and my point is that Bush's numbers would be significantly lower if virtually every aspect of the establishment were not proping him up in some way.

You say:

In short, that's a lot more and deeper support than the Beltway Establishment OR than will be indicated by job performance ratings/generic ballot tests, OR that will collapse 'when reality sets in.'
And I say, the Bush meme support is the product of the Beltway Establishment singing his praises (in hayseed drag, of course), and is the reason that he has more resiliance than the standard indicators would show--since they work to help excuse him of all responsibility.

There's a lot more I could say, but it's already going to be a challenge to maintain a focused discussion as it is. So I'll stop here, with just a couple of housekeeping comments:

(1) Yes, we're agreed on the lack of fear/trust in Bush connection.  I'm just trying to bore in on getting more insight and supporting data for it.

(2) But I'm not really sure that your "agreement is based on logic, not hard data, as we didn't measure trust in Bush in the survey."  I think that that's exactly what the Bush meme is--a measure of trust in Bush.  Of course, you always want to have stuff like that defined in advance, "We looked for X, and we found confirmation, blah, blah, blah."

But nonetheless, I think this is clearly what we have found.  After all, isn't that your analysis of what the GOP understands that the Dems don't?

(3) Over at Dkos, Cedwyn praised Rickie Lee Jones for her cover of "Up From The Skies," but I think her cover of "Rebel, Rebel" is more remarkable.  Where do you stand?


by Paul Rosenberg on Wed Mar 01, 2006 at 06:13:19 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Re: What's Under The Hood, Dude??? (none / 0)

Oh good, glad that's coming on the group details.


by Jerome Armstrong on Wed Mar 01, 2006 at 10:59:30 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Question? (none / 0)

Didn't Maslow's hierarchy always break down when focusing on individual motives as opposed to group motives?

Didn't Maslow's hierarchy always break down when focusing on individual motives as opposed to group motives? I know that your model is not directly tied to Maslow's, but from what I remember from advanced economics measuring the individual motives hits a "Heisenberg Uncertainty" area. How do you apply these motives?


by Citizen80203 on Thu Mar 02, 2006 at 02:42:47 PM EST
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Not At All (none / 0)

Maslow was a psychologist. His work was specifically focused on the individual.

Traditional economists hated him, just as they hate anyone who can bring some biological realism or any other form of reality-based constraints to bear on their fact-free theorizing.

< /snark ... no, wait, the snark never goes off...


by Paul Rosenberg on Thu Mar 02, 2006 at 06:45:32 PM EST
[ Parent ]

The Bush Meme (none / 0)

So. You got 43% with a positive attitude towards the Bush Meme, and 44% approval for Shrub in the same poll, right? I figure these figures ought to be the same except for "noise" (though not necessarily in the technical sense). If this is true, then what does the Bush Meme index tell us that the approval rating doesn't?

Outstanding work though - fascinating stuff!


Damn George Bush! Damn everyone that won't damn George Bush! Damn every one that won't put lights in his window and sit up all night damning George Bush!
by brainwave on Wed Mar 01, 2006 at 12:22:27 AM EST

Re: The Bush Meme (none / 0)

Brainwave, I compeletely agree with you. So people who believe Bush also approve of his job performance. Yawner on that question. It was a good example to get everyone started on the Meme, though. That's why I used it.

It's other issues crosstabbed with the Meme where it gets interesting. And strategic. I'll be showing what we've got from this poll: NSA, Iraq, etc. Right now we have some good data to allow us insight into dynamics of the Meme and how to undercut, defeat it. I'll be talking about all that upcoming.

Very important point, though. Since we've identified the Meme, and now know how to quantify it in data, think about all the other issues, questions, etc. that could be crosstabbed with it in future polls. In short, each time we go out we'll learn a lot more about strategy and how to undercut this hammer lock Bush has on many people. Each time.


by Sun Tzu on Wed Mar 01, 2006 at 10:24:40 AM EST
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Re: The Bush Meme (3.00 / 1)

Yeah, and I'm not totally convinced that is such a bad number. Yes, it's too bad it polls across demographics like that, but the real key would seem to push those "neutrals" more into the "negative" (although it's hard to know what that would mean without knowing how that breaks out by issue).

Intuitively, the linchpin seems to be the Murtha plan. It's the only part of the Bush Meme that Bush doesn't own, and it's related to other aspects of it. If the Democrats hit that, they move numbers on other aspects of the Bush Meme (keeping troops in Iraq indefinitely, as well as probably softening the "Iraq was a good idea" numbers). They also shatter the only real substantive part of the Bush Meme, leaving the soft personal numbers. And those, frankly, are the least important as far as I'm concerned. I want to go after the coalition, not the man.

The Murtha plan is the opening to blow it all apart, imo. I've always felt that way. It's why the GOP savaged him so quickly.

Interesting stuff. I'm sort of taking it on faith since I don't know how you grouped the folks into those categories nor how you rated the groups on the scale of each issue cluster. But ... it makes some intuitive sense, so I'm buying it.


by BriVT on Wed Mar 01, 2006 at 12:12:01 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Lot's of very interesting ideas! (none / 0)

Couple of questions.

First, what the hell is a progressive? Here in Colorado, the DLC types use the word like it means moderate-not-liberal, but I grew up thinking progressive meant to the left of liberal.

Why doesn't ethnic or religious identification have more influence in your analysis? The PEW typology report indicates pretty strong correlations (orthogonality if you will), based on ethnic or religious identification. Geography or regionalism shows significance, also. On the other hand, economic status seems to matter only at the top and bottom percentiles, even though it seems to me that class should be significant.

Obviously, you have to decide when to split or consolidate, but the US isn't a very racially homogeneous culture. Within any particular district, you have to be attentive to of specific ethnic groups and their values.


There's more of us than there is of them.
by MetaData on Wed Mar 01, 2006 at 12:59:38 AM EST

Re: Lot's of very interesting ideas! (none / 0)

Great questions, all, Metadata. Thanks very much for asking them. (Same to all the questions below, too.) I am very gratified in the interest you all are showing in this, especially after 2 weeks of intensive numbers crunching, testing and modeling. It's hard work, you make it worthwhile for me.

Meta, my next post should answer all your questions, thoroughly hopefully. I'll define the Progressive group, along with the others, in detail, including demographics, which will include religiosity and detail within that demographic. You are precisely on target with your note that Pew's, and my, groups correlate with religion and geography. You bet they do.

FYI, I'll answer this on yours, the first, post because it seems to underlie a good bit of commentary below. I struggled the last four days over exactly how to roll out psychographics here on the site. The strategy. When I'm briefing a client, I have the opportunity to take plenty of time (1/2 day sometimes), go through everything step-by-step, build to a logical conclusion/action and, throughout, immediately get feedback, answer questions, clarify. It's an immediate interactive process.

Not so here. Interactive, yes thank God, but interaction lags. So I decided to roll out in a way I hoped would be interesting to everyone. Thus, overview/history for a bit o' context, then go immediately to some meaty stuff (examples of group dynamics on questions) to show how it works and then go thematic for deeper conclusions/value. I deliberately skipped over defining the groups thoroughly, e.g., grinding through demographic characteristics, at the top because I thought it would bore folks and they'd drop out before they had a chance to see psychographics in real action. So I changed how I roll out quite a bit from the usual.

Usually the demographic charactersitics of the groups are where people get their 'sea legs' on psychographics because they're looking at familiar slices of the electorate. Hope it wasn't too discombobulating for everyone to change it up a bit. Like I said in the post, plenty more info is coming.


by Sun Tzu on Wed Mar 01, 2006 at 10:09:45 AM EST
[ Parent ]

Baby Steps (none / 0)

FYI, I think it would have worked a lot better to give folks at least a brief description of each group, without going into details--a sentence or two would have done--and then said you would elaborate in a later post.


by Paul Rosenberg on Wed Mar 01, 2006 at 10:52:43 AM EST
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Re: Baby Steps (none / 0)

Me too, but I'm thinking though that if this gets circled back around after the descrips, the insights will be better for the draft.


by Jerome Armstrong on Wed Mar 01, 2006 at 11:01:42 PM EST
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Re: Lot's of very interesting ideas! (none / 0)

We are homogeneous in one critical respect; fear as THE base emotion hardwired through evolution. Rovian politics is emotional bottom politics; they know that fear and the emotional reaction to fear are universal.


by Citizen80203 on Thu Mar 02, 2006 at 02:18:34 PM EST
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Re: Lot's of very interesting ideas! (none / 0)

Nixon knew it too--fear of "the other" moving into your community and marrying your daughter.  These people are really the heirs of Nixon.


by Mimikatz on Thu Mar 02, 2006 at 04:57:39 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Re: Lot's of very interesting ideas! (none / 0)

Good point.


by Citizen80203 on Fri Mar 03, 2006 at 10:59:16 AM EST
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Re: MyDD Poll: The Structure of the Voter Universe (1.00 / 1)

This is all very helpful. But I am concerned about the corporate media system, and the computer voting conspiracy. Democrats actually won the previous two presidential elections. Analyses by scientists and engineers is actually proving that the three 9-11 building collapses in NYC were controlled demolitions, not due to aircraft collisions or fires. We all now know that half of the US is virtually owned by "communist" China.

Examining voter psychology is all fine and well, but   these bedrock reality issues are really the 8000 ton gorilla that holds the ultimate seat at the end of the table. We better start listening to that gorilla!


by blues on Thu Mar 02, 2006 at 01:19:36 AM EST

Fucking ace work! (none / 0)

I always suspected the middle third are driven by visceral emotions, now there is data to back it up.

November is rather easy for the GOP and a far off summit for us. All the GOP has to do is hit the emotional button hard and often to keep a bare majority. We on the other hand must erase an imbedded emotional reaction directed at us. This takes time and concerted effort. Given our party is inpatient and scattered, the outcome for November is dim.

But shit, this is ground breaking data! Once one understands the motives of the process, the process can be used to change to motives.


by Citizen80203 on Thu Mar 02, 2006 at 01:39:39 PM EST

Re: MyDD Poll: The Structure of the Voter Universe (none / 0)

hi sun tzu,

i don't understand what heartland blue and heartland red are, could you explain these two groups further ?  you show heartland blue as 12% and heartland red as 8%, how do these numbers correlate to the map ?  it's probably the "heartland" word that's throwing me.  when you look at a simple map of the country after an election (at the county level, not state), blue tends to cluster in and right around the cities and large suburbs, and everything else is red from coast to coast, that's how the last election was for sure, and probably the previous few.  i've always felt that there was more going on behind the numbers too, but my feeling has always been (and still is) that voter behavior is more urban vs. rural than anything else, as the map "clearly shows" to me (?).  given that this can be true or false ... in any case, how is it that 12% are "heartland blue" and 8% are "heartland red" when clearly some giant number of "heartland" people are voting red ?  i'm sure it has something to do with the way your groups were made, but it's unclear to me.  i'm just curious about it because to me a lot of voter behavior seems to be explained very simply as city vs. country.  thanks for your attention, and thanks for the sound communications with an emphasis on merit/reality ... kudos well earned.


by Purple Foxglove on Thu Mar 02, 2006 at 02:24:47 PM EST

Re: MyDD Poll: The Structure of the Voter Universe (none / 0)

lest we forget ...

election return maps


by Purple Foxglove on Thu Mar 02, 2006 at 02:44:11 PM EST
[ Parent ]

America: She was a helluva country.... (none / 0)

On the basic Bush meme:

Approve/Neutral/Negative.

Heartland Red  83 -7 - 10  
Trusting Boomers 95 - 3 - 2
Red Core 70 -16- 14

Lovely.

A strong plurality of American voters (~45%) doesn't believe in America.


by Davis X Machina on Thu Mar 02, 2006 at 02:32:13 PM EST

Re: MyDD Poll: The Structure of the Voter Universe (none / 0)

I could use a brief summary of the groups, beyond their names.  I'm not entirely clear what differentiates "progressives" from "blue core" for the purposes of these analyses, for example.


by Pachacutec on Thu Mar 02, 2006 at 05:53:14 PM EST

Psychographics Primer (under t he hood) (none / 0)

Could you comment on the methods of statistical analysis going on here?  For instance, is this a SVD / PCA breakdown of the patterns of answers in the data (or something along those lines)?  To which you've appended interpretation / naming?  Or is the grouping somewhat more ad hoc?

Fascinating!


by Professor Foland on Fri Mar 03, 2006 at 05:37:51 PM EST


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