72% of Troops Want Out of Iraq In One Year or Less

This is it. The argument on withdrawal is officially over. Look who else wants to cut and run--the men and women on the ground:
An overwhelming majority of 72% of American troops serving in Iraq think the U.S. should exit the country within the next year, and nearly one in four say the troops should leave immediately, a new Le Moyne College/Zogby International survey shows.

The poll, conducted in conjunction with Le Moyne College's Center for Peace and Global Studies, showed that 29% of the respondents, serving in various branches of the armed forces, said the U.S. should leave Iraq "immediately," while another 22% said they should leave in the next six months. Another 21% said troops should be out between six and 12 months, while 23% said they should stay "as long as they are needed."
The troops want to leave. The Iraqi public wants them to leave. The American public wants them to leave. The only people who don't want them to leave are elected Republican officials, their apologists, and a handful of loser Democrats in leadership roles (many of whom are running for President).

This poll should be broadcast from every news outlet in the country to every corner of the country. Support the troops--bring them home. That is what they want.



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*Nearly* one in four?? (none / 0)

according to the article, it says "nearly one in four say the troops should leave immediately."  Taking a look at the poll data itself, which they site in the next sentence, 29% of respondents want out immediately.  Last I checked, 25% = "one in four", and 29% > 25%, which would make the more accurate description be "MORE THAN one in four say the troops should leave immediately."  Minor quibble, but the article is downplaying the poll results a bit.


Rudy Giuliani hates firefighters. And puppies.
by Fran for Dean on Tue Feb 28, 2006 at 02:41:40 PM EST

Other interesting numbers (none / 0)

from the poll:

- Only 58% of our troops in Iraq think that "the U.S. mission in Iraq is clear in their minds." A majority, but barely. 100% of our troops should have a clear picture of our mission. This is a complete failure of political leaders like Joe Lieberman, not the military.

- While 72% say we should be out within a year, 53% of troops say "the U.S. should double both the number of troops and bombing missions in order to control the insurgency."

That may seem contradictory, but looked at in tandem with the confusion over the clarity of the mission, it becomes less so. The guys on the ground know we're stuck and not doing what we need to do to win. The sad fact is, there's likely nothing more to do. First, it's impossible to double troop levels given the strain on the armed forces and the lack of coalition partners. And even if it were possible, throwing more troops into the sectarian strife that's boiling over would only worsen the situation.

But our troops are looking deseperately for some answer, any answer, whether that's doubling the troops and bombing the country to bits, or packing up and leaving immediately.

What is certain is that the status quo is untenable to them. The Bush-Lieberman non-policy of "stay the course" is the one thing they can not endure any longer.


by tparty on Tue Feb 28, 2006 at 03:24:20 PM EST

Re: Other interesting numbers (none / 0)

I agree about the clear mission for the war; however, the far more important finding is that most soldiers have the wrong mission statement in mind:

"While 85% said the U.S. mission is mainly "to retaliate for Saddam's role in the 9-11 attacks," 77% said they also believe the main or a major reason for the war was "to stop Saddam from protecting al Qaeda in Iraq.""

So the vast majority of those 58% have the clear mission statement of retaliating for an unrelated incident or preventing Hussein from harboring terrorists he despised.


by chgriffen on Tue Feb 28, 2006 at 04:04:28 PM EST
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Re: 72% of Troops Want Out of Iraq In One Year (none / 0)

Wait a second though. Do we still vote for these loser Dems?

I mean, it's easy to not give money to a shrill putz like Hillary, but would I still vote for her if her utter Iraki cluelessness continues?


by redstar66 on Tue Feb 28, 2006 at 03:51:59 PM EST

Re: 72% of Troops Want Out of Iraq In One Year (none / 0)

No don't vote for them. And let them know why. In fact, tell every Democrat who will listen why.

If you vote for them, they will know that you complain, but vote for them anyway. They will have no reason to change.


by antiHyde on Tue Feb 28, 2006 at 04:20:49 PM EST
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not voting isn't enough (3.00 / 1)

we need to activly organize and support the candidates running against those who continue to support these doomed policies.  I am currently working on the Christine Cegelis (IL-06) campaign.  She, unlike her opponent in the March 21 IL Dem primary, supports Murtha's plan for an orderly, quick withdrawl.  But after the November mid-term elections, it is my intention to start organizing to make sure that Hillary and her ilk have no chance of winning the Democratic nomination.  I am active with DFA (Democracy for America) and some of the other folks involved (the grassroots folks) have been talking about putting together some kind of national strategy along these lines.  Individual action is not enough.  We need to organize -- and by organize I don't mean organize marches, I mean organize effectively to win elections.


by citygirl on Tue Feb 28, 2006 at 06:25:26 PM EST
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Re: not voting isn't enough (none / 0)

not to want to sound like the ignorant putz about these things, but could you talk a bit more about DFA, put up the coordinates and so forth?

as for Cegelis, you go, girl!


by redstar66 on Tue Feb 28, 2006 at 08:39:46 PM EST
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Re: 72% of Troops Want Out of Iraq (none / 0)

On second thought, is there maybe a reason the bagmen and women on the Democratic side of the aisle still are working the "we can do Irak better" angle?

I mean, it can't be on principle, because principles have been damned and double damned in this affair since day one.

And it can't have been acceding to the wishes of their constituents who, by and large, aren't with them on this thing.

And finally, it can't be for pragmatic reasons, for with each passing month over there, it becomes obvious that the simple fact of US occupation there makes things not better, but worse. (Incidentally, the French in the preson of their FM, their Defence Minister, and their Ambassador to the US, conservatives all, have been saying this since the invasion began...)

What can be the reason these Dem bag men and women are still "in it until it's fixed"?

Perhaps this is the party line their corporate donor base insists they continue to hew.


by redstar66 on Tue Feb 28, 2006 at 03:57:22 PM EST

Re: 72% of Troops Want Out of Iraq In One Year or (none / 0)

72% want out?

Really?

I think these must be self-hating troops...


by skeptic06 on Tue Feb 28, 2006 at 04:14:01 PM EST

72% of Troops Want Out of Iraq (none / 0)

85% think they are retaliating against Saddam's role in 9/11? Says it all really. It follows from this level of boneheaded stupidity that you get Abu Ghraib, White Phosphorus, daily shootings of civilians. Oh - and Guantanamo Bay ('Honour Bound - To Defend Freedom'). Blacker by the day.

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by Oakroyd2 on Tue Feb 28, 2006 at 04:46:55 PM EST

Re: 72% of Troops Want Out of Iraq (none / 0)

85% think they are retaliating against Saddam's role in 9/11?

The number is actually 90% and I was shocked when I read that!  They're less informed than Rush listeners!

The Extremist Rantings Of A Mainstream Progressive


by frizzle on Tue Feb 28, 2006 at 05:44:38 PM EST
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Re: 72% of Troops Want... (none / 0)

Hi all,
Redstate is already attacking this as part of Zogby's "well-known bias."  Any answers for this. Any reason to doubt the accuracy of the survey?
by torrentprime on Tue Feb 28, 2006 at 07:56:49 PM EST

Re: 72% of Troops Want Out (none / 0)

I think that maybe some of them (72%) have come to realize that what they are there for has become something of a losing situation. These men and women are constantly losing their lives to a faceless enemy. There should be more talk on how we should withdraw these troops during this next year rather than how we should increase our power.


by colaid on Wed Mar 01, 2006 at 02:06:49 PM EST


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