Ned Lamont, the Political Entrepreneur

I don't normally ask for this, but please forward this post far and wide to everyone you know, especially people in Connecticut. It's really important to get as many people on Ned Lamont's email list as possible, since this is a small universe of voters. You can sign up here.

So I've been promising you a Lamont meeting recap, and here it is.

In all honesty, I did not expect to support Ned Lamont.  When I wrote The Risks for the Blogosphere of Taking on Lieberman, I outlined the set of risks that we carry in going against someone who is well-entrenched and popular in their state.  And I was expecting to go to Connecticut and find a guy eager to beat Joe Lieberman, but without a sense of what he wanted to do in the Senate and why he was in politics.  All too often, that's what neophytes in the political process bring to the table, enthusiasm and energy without discipline.  I know how bad Lieberman is.  It's not just the war vote, it's how he introduced the Iraq war resolution and undercut all the other Democratic Senators who wanted to authorize force with more restrictions.  It's not just the consistent Bush-kissing, it's how he grandstands against Alito and the Bankruptcy Bill and then votes for cloture, the only real vote that matters.  It is, in short, how Lieberman has no principle, no vision, and no ability to lead this country in the right direction.  He's with us when it doesn't matter, and he's against us when it does.  Nevertheless, politics is about reality, longevity, and consistency, not just idealism, and I was scared that we'd throw a sacrificial lamb at a DLC giant.

After my time in Connecticut, I am 100% behind Ned Lamont.  He is a serious, disciplined man who has the right temperament and a deep understanding of what it means to succeed and achieve in this world (he is also good-looking and photogenic).  The downsides of his candidacy are clear.  He has held only one elected office as a local politician, and he is starting his run with only seven months until the primary in August.  He is down in the polls by 47-36, and his name ID is low.  This is going to be a tough race.  Lieberman is a ruthless campaigner with oodles of money and the support of DC insiders; indeed, the entire edifice of the 'sensible Democrat' is built on Lieberman's mixture of pandering-as-principle, and these people will fight viciously to maintain their veneer of respectability.  Going into Connecticut means going into the belly of the beast.

Given all these factors, why am I behind Ned Lamont?  Or rather, why did I shift from a lukewarm overly anxious state to what sounds like, but isn't, that of a Kool-Aid Kid?  Well I have a test for politicians.  I ask them who their political idols are, and why.  And what Ned Lamont told me is the single most impressive answer I have ever gotten.  His favorite politicians are Bill Clinton and Bill Bradley, and the reason is because he believes we need a more entrepreneurial style of politics.  That is a remarkable answer.  It is remarkable because it is absolutely forward-looking and systematic.  What we face as a country is systemic corruption, not a few bad apples.  And the way to shift that system is through a new crop of entrepreneurial leaders who seek to occupy and create new political space, not to swell on the legacy of the New Dealers.  Ned Lamont is one of these leaders.

Why else do I find him impressive?  Well, because he's accomplished.  He built a company.  That may not sound hard, but it is.  Building a telecommunications company takes guts, bravado, perseverance, and savvy.  It means calculated risk-taking, not blind recklessness or excessive caution.  Yet even as he was building his business, he worked on policy with the Brookings Institute, fiscal policy and health care.  Lamont is extremely progressive, for very solid pragmatic and moral reasons.  Without a functional and universal health care system, businesses and workers are getting crushed.  Being in Iraq is a diversion of resources away from critical domestic priorities, and away from catching Bin Laden.  These are not poll-tested answers from a guy seeking to beat Lieberman; these are the instinctive positions of someone who has thought and done his civic duty for years as a business and community leader.  That matters because it means he brings a level of seriousness to any endeavor he undertakes.  He keeps his word, and he gets things done and built.  And his business background and reputation in the state makes it very difficult to pigeonhole him as some unrealistic liberal.  

The other reason I'm behind Ned Lamont is because he's done his politics the right way, and this means he can win.  His campaign staff is superb.  Tom Swan, his campaign manager, knows politics, and while I can't go into the specifics of the strategy, it is realistic and makes a great deal of sense given the landscape of Connecticut and the relatively small universe of primary voters.  For instance, there were 125,000 in the uncontested Presidential primary in 2004 and with a volunteer list above 1000, that means that almost 2% of the total necessary primary vote is volunteering for Lamont.  I would imagine my voter universe numbers are somewhat off, but not by orders of magnitude.  Lamont is going to need money and has set an informal fundraising goal of $500,000 by the end of the month; McCain-Feingold means that he can't use more than $500,000 of his own money without triggering provisions that allow Lieberman to double his take from his maxed out donors.  But Lamont will also spend this money efficiently; there are endless ways to waste money in a primary campaign, and Lamont, because he comes from private industry and is using people who have been around the block to run his campaign.  Oh, and while we're talking about numbers, Moveon.org has 50,000 members in Connecticut.  That's low-hanging fruit for Lamont.

As Atrios, Kos, Chris Bowers, Scott, and others have noted, this is a change election.  Massive swings are taking place towards outsider progressive candidates, 31 points for Deval Patrick in MA and 24 points for Matt Brown in RI.  These are specifically Northeastern states, with very similar dynamics in terms of ossified political machinery.  This applies to CT; the insiders have forgotten how to do grassroots campaigning.  And Lieberman, by undermining unions, women's rights, trial lawyers, and progressives, simply has no base anymore except entrenched insiders.  Those who support Lieberman are too often Republicans or Independents who cannot vote in the primary.  Even such party stalwarts such as Mark Schmitt are calling for a challenge to Lieberman.

The meeting itself was great.  There were a bunch of local bloggers, and we were able to talk about a whole set of issues, including Iraq, corruption, the Democratic Party, health care, business, and the mechanics of campaigning.  PoliticsTV came to the meeting and filmed, so there will be footage you can watch.  All in all, we have a principled businessman and political entrepreneur candidate running for office against an entrenched incumbent.  Lamont has the temperament, strategy, and ability to beat Lieberman.  I think he will.

And I'm going to make my donation, proudly, not just against Joe Lieberman but for Ned Lamont. I'm going to give $500, which is a lot of money for me. But I want to have skin in this game, I want to be part of this victory, and I want to be able to say that I was there when Ned Lamont first decided to beat Joe Lieberman and put America back on the road to a bright progressive future.

NOTES AND REACTIONS

- We've got a DONOR MATCH from DownwithTyranny! Give! Give enough within the next 24 hours to his Actblue page for Ned Lamont and he'll max out! Also his pic of Lamont is worth a click over to his site.

- Lamont can apparently spend more personal money than I had heard.

- VirginiaBlogger has this to say:

I think it's a bad idea to put everything everyone has worked so hard for on the line for this race. If this happens, and Lieberman win's we will just be cementing the perception that we in the blog community aren't a base.

Look, I've done my homework. I assessed the risks. I've met with the DSCC. I've met with insider politicians. I've met with Lamont. I looked at the polls. I did my analysis of similar races. At some point you've got to commit and put 110% of effort beating the pandering politician who stabs you in the face. In other words, if we never fight, we never win, and the risk/reward on this is OUTSTANDING!

- Illustrious, a Brit, shows that each of us can matter.

During the last British General Election I worked as hard as I could for my local party. Sure, we lost the Parliamentary election, but we made good ground in the local council elections. I also worked in a local constituency (Sandrah Gidley in Romsey) for one day - election day. That day I must have contacted, through the telephone and through knocking on doors, about 300 people. We won by 125 votes.

If you want to make big changes happen, it doesn't take a lot of effort. Movements are what change the world. I really urge all of you who feel the same outrage I do about issues like Iraq to go sign up as an activist for the local Democrats. Then when you win, you can feel like you achieved something. When I heard Sandrah had won, I was ecstatic.

This is especially true in a small voter universe primary.

- CTKeith of DumpJoe says the results of the poll aren't surprising; the netroots is as usual more in touch with the local party activists than the DC conventional wisdumb.

- Metadata says being an outsider can be helpful. I agree, since outsiders are more likely to take advantage of newer tactics that at this point have some history behind them.

- A Deval Patrick supporter chimes in! Go Deval!

- Here's an interview with Lamont. Nice pic!

- There's a Ned Lamont resource page.



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interesting (3.00 / 1)

I still worry about the resource drain from other races, but if that 47-36 is at all legit, we've got a real battle.  Just one correction.  Re:

McCain-Feingold means that he can't use more than $500,000 of his own money without triggering provisions that allow Lieberman to double his take from his maxed out donors.

Untrue.  If you heard it from MyLeftNutmeg (via DailyKos), they've retracted it; if it's from Lamont's people, that means they either don't know the FEC law they're now subject to, or are lying.  Details are here.


by Adam B on Fri Feb 17, 2006 at 05:57:14 PM EST

Re: interesting (none / 0)

It's from a poll where Lieberman ran as an independant.  It's not quite legit, but it is encouraging.


by pseudo999 on Fri Feb 17, 2006 at 09:56:21 PM EST
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Re: Ned Lamont, the Political Entrepreneur (3.00 / 2)

Good Evening.  I'm a Brit, but I'm just fascinated by American politics.  MyDD is my favourite lefty-blog - keep up the great work guys :)

During the last British General Election I worked as hard as I could for my local party.  Sure, we lost the Parliamentary election, but we made good ground in the local council elections.  I also worked in a local constituency (Sandrah Gidley in Romsey) for one day - election day.  That day I must have contacted, through the telephone and through knocking on doors, about 300 people.  We won by 125 votes.

If you want to make big changes happen, it doesn't take a lot of effort.  Movements are what change the world.  I really urge all of you who feel the same outrage I do about issues like Iraq to go sign up as an activist for the local Democrats.  Then when you win, you can feel like you achieved something.  When I heard Sandrah had won, I was ecstatic.

Lamont sounds like the kind of guy you should all be very excited about.  You all are passionate about your politics.  When you find a race that is both winnable and exciting, you just have to get involved.  I can't give money to Lamont, being as I am from the UK.  If I could, I would.  You all can, and I think you should :)


I'm British, but our politics bores me.
by Illustrious on Fri Feb 17, 2006 at 06:13:50 PM EST

Re: Ned Lamont, the Political Entrepreneur (none / 0)

Sounds like Lamont, unlike Hackett, is for real and ready to go the distance -- and the latest Rasmussen results are stunning. Of all name-brand Democrats, Liebmann is the poster boy, the prime candidate for early retirement. What a message that would send.


debunker
by dbnkr on Fri Feb 17, 2006 at 06:25:10 PM EST

Re: Ned Lamont, the Political Entrepreneur (3.00 / 2)

These results are not really stunning,

As the owner of http://www.dumpjoe.com/ I've traveled this state for over a year and attended more Democraic meetings and events than almost anyone in Ct. Ive talked to hundreds of town committee members and gave out hundreds of the Dump Joe "kiss Buttons" and bumper stickers and NOT ONCE was I told what I was doing was wrong except once by a very rude Lieberman Staffer.

Joe Lieberman Has no Base in Ct in the Democratic Party and even worse for him is noone Fears him.He's done nothing for the Party in Ct except try to Bully it with threats of having "his people" withhold their monetary support.

Joe Lieberman has attended only 3 open to the public events in CT in the past year of which I attended 2.The one I missed was,of all things for a Democrat,A chamber of commerce breakfast in the 2nd congressional district.

Of the other 2 one was at Yale University and Lieberman took  a total of 4 question of which 3 were hostile and then he ran out of the door.The other open meeting was at a Democratic State Central committe meeting were he was blasted by members and told he would not be welcome in Harwinton,CT by the Town Chair to which he replied "I guess I'm noy going to Harwinton. He took 2 more questions and again Ran out the door.

Joe Better run as an independent or get the Republican Nomination because he's not liked much more by CT Dems than he is on the Blogs most of us Frequent.


by ctkeith on Fri Feb 17, 2006 at 07:49:00 PM EST
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Bravo Matt! (3.00 / 1)

This stirring that I can feel in the netroots to focus on this years primaries is very exciting.

The time has come for coordinated action. The most important target - the Democratic primaries and the election of stand up fighters who will form the backbone of a true opposition party. The core that will be unafraid to take the fight to the Repubs. This has been a long time in coming.

I have already sent in my contribution to Lamont, Ciro and Francine.

I hope that netroots community will quickly help identify the core fighters that we need to back and work our a***s off to help cross the finish line and defeat the weather vane establishment Dems.


by ab initio on Fri Feb 17, 2006 at 07:58:19 PM EST
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Re: Ned Lamont, the Political Entrepreneur (3.00 / 2)

I've given fifty so far, time for another hundred I think. Time for our staic boulder on the hill to start rolling for power.


by Citizen80203 on Fri Feb 17, 2006 at 06:25:58 PM EST

Re: Ned Lamont, the Political Entrepreneur (3.00 / 2)

Nice post.

I already signed up a few weeks back on his email and pledged $100, plus volunteered to do anything I can from Arizona.

"After my time in Connecticut, I am 100% behind Ned Lamont.  He is a serious, disciplined man who has the right temperament and a deep understanding of what it means to succeed and achieve in this world (he is also good-looking and photogenic)."

I have to agree. I was shocked he is 52 because he looks like he is in his early 30s. I look older than him and I am well over a decade younger.


by Truthteller on Fri Feb 17, 2006 at 06:30:53 PM EST

Runner, I believe (3.00 / 1)

I see some results for some 10k races in Connecticut.

http://www.hitekracing.com/results02/tod sjog.htm


by Scarce on Fri Feb 17, 2006 at 07:11:51 PM EST
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Re: Ned Lamont, the Political Entrepreneur (3.00 / 2)

First off all, my photo of Lamont is better than yours. Second of all, I'm inspired by Matt's donation of $500. I'll match any donation to Lamont on my ACT BLUE page for him that comes in in the next 24 hours (up to $2,200, the legal limit). So... if you want your donation to amount to double what you give... welcome. I'm happy to do it!


by DownWithTyranny on Fri Feb 17, 2006 at 06:47:32 PM EST

Re: Ned Lamont, the Political Entrepreneur (3.00 / 1)

Excellent!  I'd already contributed to Lamont, but your matching offer persuaded me to add a bit more.  Go Ned!


by RT on Sat Feb 18, 2006 at 06:10:52 AM EST
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Re: Ned Lamont, the Political Entrepreneur (none / 0)

Great to see you've got this challenge going.  AS of right now (7:18 am pst Saturday), your ActBlue page is showing $1340 for Lamont.  Is that all from others counting toward your challenge?  If not, how much is left before you max out at the $2200?


Vote No to the Spending Cap in California (Prop 1A) - Don't Make the Budget Madness Worse
by PeterB on Sat Feb 18, 2006 at 10:20:40 AM EST
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Re: ACT BLUE Matching complete (3.00 / 1)

I just want to say thanks for the incredible generosity of Matt and the MyDD readers. I just matched your donations to Ned Lamont on my ACT BLUE Page with a $1,400 contribution. But what really blew my mind was how so many MyDD readers kicked in some un-matched money for some of the other worthy candidates on the Page, especially for the two progressives with current contests, Ciro Rodriguez and Francine Busby. Contributions ranged from $5 to $500 and every single one is very much appreciated. THANKS!!


by DownWithTyranny on Sat Feb 18, 2006 at 07:12:09 PM EST
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Polls apart... (none / 0)

According to Rasumssen, Lieberman leads Lamont by 47%-36%.  However, in a Quinnipac poll released a couple of days ago (in other words, taken at about the same time), Lieberman was up 68%-13%.  Anyone care to explain the serious discrepancy?


by JDWalley on Fri Feb 17, 2006 at 06:48:32 PM EST

Methodology??? (3.00 / 1)

I read the Q poll, and it first describes Lamont as "businessman Ned Lamont". Hearing that, and not knowing a lick about Ned, most people would make the presumption he is a republican.

Had the Q-poll described him differently, say anti-war Democrat Ned Lamont, methinks the poll results would have been far different.

Most DTC members still don't know of Ned and his primary challenge. But the disaffection with Lieberman is real. Joe has no base, no depth of support, and with an agressive run, 2006 will be an interesting year.


by trueblue on Fri Feb 17, 2006 at 07:02:15 PM EST
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Re: Polls apart... (none / 0)

There's a lot of confusion on this score, but I think it's because this particular poll deals with a general election matchup between Lamont (D) and Lieberman (I) and Republican (R).  For that reason, it doesn't seem as relevant to the current situation as the Q-Pac one.

That's not to say I think Ned can't make this competitive.  He's ready to go all the way.


by kilb on Fri Feb 17, 2006 at 07:04:00 PM EST
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Re: Polls apart... (none / 0)

Actually, the three-way race you mention is not the same as the one that gave Holy Joe a 68%-13% lead.


by JDWalley on Sat Feb 18, 2006 at 12:22:31 AM EST
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Re: Polls apart... (none / 0)

That's correct.  And I thought that's what I was saying.  The Rasmussen poll was the three-way.  And the Q-pac poll asked about the Democratic primary.

Because we're in the Democratic primary now, I think the Q-pac poll is more relevant.


by kilb on Sat Feb 18, 2006 at 10:37:33 AM EST
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Re: Ned Lamont, the Political Entrepreneur (1.50 / 2)

I think it's a bad idea to put everything everyone has worked so hard for on the line for this race. If this happens, and Lieberman win's we will just be cementing the perception that we in the blog community aren't a base.


by Virginia Blogger on Fri Feb 17, 2006 at 07:07:34 PM EST

Something to learn from Colorado (3.00 / 1)

The outsider card can be played well.

The super-popular mayor of Denver, John Hickenlooper, came to politics with good business credentials as a successful brew-pub  owner and restauranteer. He has more of a nerdy style, not slick at all. Certainly a liberal-minded person, his business background gave him a foundation of respect and respectability.

His advertising agency, Northwoods Advertising of Minneapolis, was highly successful at crafting a campaign that turned all of Hickenloopers negatives into positives.

They had him spiffing up his image by buying a business suit at a vintage store and then riding off on his Vespa. He wore a coin changer, and faced down a meter maid like a gunslinger. Recently for a tax initiative, they had him jump out of an airplane. Memorable ads, all of them.

The point is, being an outsider can be a good thing, something that might be more true this year. Newcomers are in a position to create their image fresh and new. With a clever campaign you can get both name recognition and positive press.


There's more of us than there is of them.
by MetaData on Fri Feb 17, 2006 at 07:09:05 PM EST

Massive swings are taking place (3.00 / 3)

"Massive swings are taking place towards outsider progressive candidates, 31 points for Deval Patrick in MA and 24 points for Matt Brown in RI.  These are specifically Northeastern states, with very similar dynamics in terms of ossified political machinery."

Funny you should write these sentences today. I am a committed Deval Patrick supporter and I was elected a delegate pledged to support him at the MA Dem State party convention  on 2/4. On that day throughout MA Deval Patrick's effective grassroots campaign crushed the "entrenched insider,perceived frontrunner".

The response from the "ossified political machinery" is astonishment and a scramble to the Party's Rules Committee to "clarify" a rule which enable another "insider" to get his name before the Convention. Without the "clarification" the second "insider" would not have his name placed before the convention delegates.

Change frightens people; losing influence frightens people even more than change does.

The greater the risk the greater the reward - too many people engaged in politics go for the comfort of a sure thing.

I would ask a prospective voter: imagine the type of world that you want to live in and then vote for the person most likely to work for achieving that vision.

It usually is the progressive candidate.


by merbex on Fri Feb 17, 2006 at 07:09:52 PM EST

Re: Massive swings are taking place (3.00 / 1)

I'm glad to hear comments about Matt Brown and Deval Patrick here.  One big Ned supporter in Connecticut, whom I've always respected as been talking up Matt a lot.  I wrote about Deval Patrick last April.  I also wrote more about both Ned and Deval a few weeks ago.

Connecticut will have its primary in on August 8th.  Rhode Island will have its primary on September 12th, and Massachusetts will have its primary on September 19th.

August and September will be a great time for progressive political junkies in New England.  Make your vacation plans accordingly.


by aldon on Sat Feb 18, 2006 at 12:30:14 PM EST
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Re: Ned Lamont, the Political Entrepreneur (none / 0)

Matt...I don't know if you've seen or posted a link to this interview with Ned.  I think it's worth a look:
http://www.the40yearplan.com/article_012 406.php
by mitchipd on Fri Feb 17, 2006 at 07:15:10 PM EST

Re: Ned Lamont, the Political Entrepreneur (none / 0)

May I include your photos on my Ned Lamont Resource page?  I've linked to several (possibly all) of your Ned Lamont posts.

My experience, admittedly a biased one, is that the more someone gets to know about Ned Lamont, the more likely one is to prefer him.  Upon meeting Ned and hearing him speak, few doubt his sincerity.  I believe that Ned is more than just an "alternative" to Joe, he's clearly the better person for the job.


[Spazeboy.net][Ned Lamont Resource]
by spazeboy on Fri Feb 17, 2006 at 07:28:51 PM EST

Re: Ned Lamont, the Political Entrepreneur (3.00 / 3)

I think it's a bad idea to put everything everyone has worked so hard for on the line for this race. If this happens, and Lieberman win's we will just be cementing the perception that we in the blog community aren't a base.

I think one of the things that is wrong with the Democratic party at the moment is fear of losing. Our elected jellyfish don't want to filibuster unless then can win, won't vote against cloture unless the votes are already in the bag.

The thing is, if you run scared, you're not going to win. People who take chances succeed more often than people who don't. Lamont looks like a viable candidate and a good guy to boot. I say we go for it.

What do we have to lose? If Lieberman wins, so what? I do know that if people don't back Lamont, Lieberman is guaranteed to win.

Sometimes you just have to stand up for what you believe in and act. If Democrats across the country did that, I think we'd take back both houses of congress in '06.


by shargash on Fri Feb 17, 2006 at 07:30:46 PM EST

Principle (3.00 / 1)

Excellent point shargash! Nothing ventured nothing gained.

The DC Dems and their loser consultants have focused far too long on triangulation and "focus" groups and never once focused on principle - what's right for the country and th 99% of America. The result is in plain sight - lost election after election. Zero track record of electoral sucess. Its quite simple why vote for someone that does not stand for anything other than being elected.

Taking a serious stand this primary season by aggressively backing straight talking fighters who will stand up and take the fight to the Repubs will be the biggest thing that the netroots can do. Even if only a few candidates succeed it will send a message through the hallways the DC Dems inhabit and we may find new spine in those jello backs.

Change begins with the primaries!


by ab initio on Fri Feb 17, 2006 at 07:49:44 PM EST
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Re: Ned Lamont, the Political Entrepreneur (none / 0)

what happens if joe wins the primary? just curious given the hackett situation- and how that played out? these are real questions I am asking because I am sincing some inconsistency at least on the level of messages being sent


by bruh21 on Fri Feb 17, 2006 at 07:51:07 PM EST

Re: Ned Lamont, the Political Entrepreneur (3.00 / 1)

What Happens is he gets reelected and we pick up no seats in the house of reps from Ct.

We have 3 republican house seats we can sweeep if the DEMOCRATS HAVE A UNIFIED MESSAGE.

Lieberman as the Senate Dem nominee makes that Impossible since He is pro STAY THE COURSE and all 3 Dems running against Repubs are Anti Stay the course.


by ctkeith on Fri Feb 17, 2006 at 08:00:32 PM EST
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Re: Ned Lamont, the Political Entrepreneur (none / 0)

At least we tried to effect change. Nothing ventured nothing gained. And Joe is on notice. He may not win the next time.


by ab initio on Fri Feb 17, 2006 at 08:02:40 PM EST
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Re: Ned Lamont, the Political Entrepreneur (3.00 / 1)

Read Chris Bowers' piece 'Defanging Our Arlen Specter for how we can win in that scenario...


by Matt Stoller on Fri Feb 17, 2006 at 08:14:15 PM EST
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Re: Ned Lamont, the Political Entrepreneur (none / 0)

what's the difference between hackett and lamont?


by bruh21 on Sat Feb 18, 2006 at 10:27:09 AM EST
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Re: Ned Lamont, the Political Entrepreneur (none / 0)

Lamont has a track record of consistent accomplishment, Hackett has a track record of bursts of bravery.


by Matt Stoller on Sat Feb 18, 2006 at 12:08:26 PM EST
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Re: Ned Lamont, the Political Entrepreneur (none / 0)

Being a practicing  lawyer and a military officer do not require the same traits as Lamont? My real question that I am getting at is what will happen here and other blogs (ie, D Kos which is also tauting Lamont) should the party insiders do the same as they did to Hackett- but instead do it to Lamont- will you continue to support Lamont?


by bruh21 on Sat Feb 18, 2006 at 01:28:06 PM EST
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Re: Ned Lamont, the Political Entrepreneur (none / 0)

for the record- I hope this experimentation works- I think the party needs it if it wants to obtain a sustainable governing majority because winning a majority is not enough. You have to have one where people are willing to take some risks. I just don't understand the difference for justifying Lamont but not hackett- since arguable hackett made even more sense


by bruh21 on Sat Feb 18, 2006 at 01:31:42 PM EST
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Lamont is swell (3.00 / 0)

"not to swell on the legacy of the New Dealers" or necessarily even to 'dwell' on it. What Democrats need to do is to stop dismissing that legacy.

Not every New Deal proposal worked, not every Great Society program worked, but an astonishing large number of them are so central to what Clinton and Bradley were proposing that we risk throwing out the baby with the dishwater. In particular Social Security has been a huge success, with Medicare coming up close behind.

We have Rural Electrification, we have cheap hydropower in the Northwest, we have seniors with a minimal dignity in retirement no matter how low their life time income history. And we have a program that escalates payouts as real wages increase. Seniors who retire now are not stuck at a benefit based on their income at retirement, instead it is adjusted to real wages. And all of that is the work product of the New Deal.

Democrats that do not understand how much of the fundamental societal compact accepted today: from basic retirement security, country people having electricity, old people having access to medical care, civil rights for blacks, basic environmental protections were all bitterly opposed by the Right as being un-American. Find an elected Republican that will outright oppose any of these. Okay I'll give you Richard Pombo on the environment, but I'll raise you with Trent Lott on Civil Rights.

There is a tendency among those under 40 to not understand that the world they grew up in was not the world my parents grew up in or even the world I grew up in. Exactly how many of under 40 folk even remember Little Black Sambo? Either as a book or a chain of restaurants. When I was a small boy everyone read the story and ate breakfast at the restaurants and never paid a second thought to the racist caricature. Do you see Disney re-releasing "Song of the South" on a regular basis? I suspect not.

Bush is not the only person in America that was born on third base and thought he hit a triple. Plenty of self-styled 'Progressives' are simply ignorant of the struggles of the 20's and 30's and only half aware of the struggles of the 50's and 60's.

http://www.allposters.com/-sp/Little-Bla ck-Sambo-Posters_i936447_.htm
Well that was pretty special. And the juxtaposition of the chimpanzee was not only not considered offensive but was part of the appeal.
http://www.bannedfilms.com
Well kindly Uncle Remus. Pop eyed, funnily dressed Uncle Remus. And Uncle because southern children were polite towards their elders but were not allowed to extend "Mr." or a last name to a black man.

I have seen so much change in what basic social discourse allows and doesn't allow in my own lifetime (born in 1957) that it is staggering. And people who just are willing to wave away "New Dealers" as irrelevant need to be looking at some labor/civil rights/environmental protection history.


by Bruce Webb on Fri Feb 17, 2006 at 09:30:03 PM EST

Re: Lamont is swell (none / 0)

Relax.  No one's saying the New Deal was bad.  It obviously wasn't, and it needs to be extended to universal health care, which really was FDR's idea but was never implemented.  

We also need to go beyond it.


by Matt Stoller on Fri Feb 17, 2006 at 09:36:47 PM EST
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Beyond it (none / 0)

Doesn't mean past it and this struck me the wrong way:
"And the way to shift that system is through a new crop of entrepreneurial leaders who seek to occupy and create new political space, not to swell on the legacy of the New Dealers."
This just seems to be another case of "reoccupy the center" rather than defending Big Government.

Big Government is not the problem. That is Republican jargon that has been absorbed into Third Way Politics that gained us two Presidential terms but cost us control of Congress, and incidentally caused the British Labour Party to sell it soul to corporatists.

That you use "entrepreneurial" as your working definition of "exceptional" says wonders. We will not get to universal health care through entrepreneurialism, we will get there by convincing the public that the New Deal worked and continues to work. I'll likely throw some change Lamont's way but that is mainly because he is not Lieberman and not through some fall down admiration of the fact that he is a businessman.

We have an opportunity to strike at the heart of the Republican Party from the traditional left. They have simply been lying about Social Security and this is the year we can prove that once and for all. Yet too many self-styled progressives still insist on a strategy of triangulation.

I am a big fan of MyDD and all its main contributers, but I just think you are missing the FDR freight train that is leaving the station right now.


by Bruce Webb on Sat Feb 18, 2006 at 12:14:05 PM EST
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Re: Beyond it (none / 0)

This just seems to be another case of "reoccupy the center" rather than defending Big Government.

That's not what I wrote and that's not what I meant.

FDR was entrepreneurial.  He created the New Deal, but he didn't rest on Woodrow Wilson's political legacy, he extended it and improved it.

So stop trying to make this a 'Matt Stoller doesn't like FDR deal cuz he's a young'un and has no respect'.  FDR created new political space, and that our task is to do the same.


by Matt Stoller on Sat Feb 18, 2006 at 12:21:38 PM EST
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Centrists don't even have a word (none / 0)

for 'entrepreneurial'

Matt, I don't want to pick a fight. You are doing great things and certainly have better things to do than jousting with some New Dealer on the Left Coast, but your attempt to disengage "entrepreneur" from "market" does linguistic violence to the former term and misrepresents the FDR project, otherwise known as the New Deal.

Some of us are advocating for Socialistic solutions to Social problems. And we understand full well that that sends shivers down the spines of the Centrists that have been running our party for 25 years or more. But to put it frankly the Centrist Project has been a total loser. From 1932 to 1980 we dragged this country steadily to the Left on topic after topic only to have the Democratic Party get spooked when the racists decided to abandon it. "Shit, we lost Bull Conner and Lester Maddox" and later "Damn, we lost Phil Gramm".

Good riddance to bad rubbish, and if it meant a couple decades in the wilderness so be it. A lot of the smart boys are simply assuming that we cannot reassemble the FDR coalition absent the racist yahoos that dominated the Party in the 1930s to 1960s. Well absent a bunch of Confederate sympathizing Committee Chairmen shamefully accommodated on our side we can move history if only we gain control.

Carpe Diem. Sieze the Day. We can move the Progressive agenda, we don't need to tack to the center. We can simply show that Social Security is fully funded going forward and that tax cuts do not in fact increase revenue. The idea that the Democratic Party needs to latch on to "entreprenurial" is a sign a problematic concession to the oppositon.


by Bruce Webb on Sat Feb 18, 2006 at 04:45:40 PM EST
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Re: Ned Lamont, the Political Entrepreneur (3.00 / 2)

I love this man. If connecticut doesn't want him, I wish he'd come to Washington and take on Maria Cantwell.  I was listening to Ed Schultz yesterday UNTIL he had BOASTING JOE on to talk about going to the White House on Valentines Day.  Turned it off.  So when I saw the numbers today on Daily Kos I anted up my $50.00.  Win or Lose, it was worth it to help get Lamont going.


by alisonseattle on Fri Feb 17, 2006 at 10:16:50 PM EST

Re: Ned Lamont, the Political Entrepreneur (3.00 / 1)

I'm supporting Ned Lamont in part because a primary win for him would accomplish a lot more than dumping Joe Lieberman;  it would send a loud and clear message to the Democratic Party that its progressive wing is a potent force that intends to bring about substantive change.  Beating Lieberman will create a shock wave among the DLC types and will further energize those of us who labor in the fevered swamps.


by global yokel on Fri Feb 17, 2006 at 10:50:04 PM EST

Re: Ned Lamont, the Political Entrepreneur (none / 0)

There's another question that no one has addressed yet: What happens if Lamont wins the primary? Is there a republican opponent who will benefit, possibly poaching the seat? Presuming Lamont will have to spend every cent in the primary, which could be divisive and alienate some CT and national donors from Lamont, is there a plan to avoid getting buried immediately after the primary under a wave of negative attacks by the republican candidates or the NRSC?


by desmoulins on Sat Feb 18, 2006 at 12:36:44 AM EST
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Re: Ned Lamont, the Political Entrepreneur (3.00 / 1)

No Republican opponent yet, to my knowledge.


by kilb on Sat Feb 18, 2006 at 10:38:20 AM EST
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Re: Ned Lamont, the Political Entrepreneur (none / 0)

Matt,

I wonder if a challenger like Ned Lamont enjoys a bit of an advantage over Lieberman, in the sense that those who show up to vote in a primary are by definition more politically engaged, more motivated and focused than those who vote only in general elections?  I would think that highly energized progressives will make up a fairly high % of the universe of primary voters.


by global yokel on Fri Feb 17, 2006 at 10:54:02 PM EST

Ned's been thoroughly vetted? (none / 0)

The only uncertainty I have is that Ned hasn't gone through a tough campaign that would have flushed out any skeletons in his closet.  

Have people done the necessary oppo research on our own candidate to be satisfied there aren't going to be any surprises that derail Ned's candidacy?

Reassurance needed please


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by PeterB on Fri Feb 17, 2006 at 10:58:05 PM EST

Re: Ned Lamont, the Political Entrepreneur (none / 0)

I am pulling for Ned.

However, I disagree with your vague premise about entrepreneur candidates.

We need to change the structure of political debate and the structure of our elections.

Information about Congress is not systematically gathered and distributed.  The decision-making process is too sudden and opague.  There is little understanding of the process and little accountability.

Rules should be changed to require all bills (including any amendment) be publicly disclosed on internet at least two weeks before any vote.  No reason that cannot be done.

Congressional procedures should be simplified.  Why should the simple process of suggesting laws and taking votes be incomprehensible to ordinary citizens?  Tradition is an excuse.  It protects privilege.

Party positions on bills should be insisted upon.  And the elected members should vote on party positions after some informal debate with the public.  Notice and comment type process, via the internet, would be easy to do.

We need to systematically gather information, and make it available in an organized way.  A consortium of universities could do it, using students on a semester away program.  This would be particularly good to do with budget issues.  Budget is the main thing Congress does, and it is a very similar task every year.

Elections.  Public financing.  Constitutional amendment to end gerrymandering by requiring all districts be equal numbers in east/west slivers across each state.

Winning elections is good.

But for real change, we need to change the routines.


by jwp26 on Sat Feb 18, 2006 at 12:31:22 AM EST

Re: Ned Lamont, the Political Entrepreneur (none / 0)

Ironically, your post made me less excited about Lamont himself.  Dont get me wrong, I have been comitted for over a year to supporting any anti-Lieberman candidate and I still definitely am.

Yet, an "entrepreneur" Democrat may be no different then Lieberman domestically.  Obviously, one has to see what his specific issue stands are to make a final determination on how different, if at all, he will be then Joe domestically.  Still, he sounds suspiciously like a DLC (economically at least) type moderate right winger that I am not especially fond of.

Still, obviously, beating Lieberman is still a very worthy goal.  Even if Lamont is only better then JL on the war and does not believe in stabbing fellow Dems in the back, then he will be a significant improvement.  I am only saying that since I am a progressive Democrat, I wish Lamont was more so.


Andy Katz
by Andy Katz on Sat Feb 18, 2006 at 10:48:01 AM EST

Re: Ned Lamont, the Political Entrepreneur (3.00 / 1)

I think you're reading entrepeneurial much too literally.  Would a DLC Democrat be calling for universal healthcare?


by kilb on Sat Feb 18, 2006 at 12:00:23 PM EST
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Re: Ned Lamont, the Political Entrepreneur (none / 0)

Has he GIVEN those benefits to all of the workers he's employed in his glitzy telecommunications company? Or did he sacrifice them to the bottom line? That's the real question.


by rhealdeal on Sat Feb 18, 2006 at 02:55:50 PM EST
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Re: Ned Lamont, the Political Entrepreneur (none / 0)

Ned's company went from ~200 down to 35 since 2001. How incompetant is that? That would be good if it would govt workers. He's trotted out as a businessman---but it sounds like he's not really made it on his own money.


by jjginsburg on Wed Aug 02, 2006 at 01:16:09 AM EST

Re: Ned Lamont, the Political Entrepreneur (none / 0)

how is that different from George Bush cronyism with corporate interest.

Political Entrepreneur--Run the govt like a business.

Cronyism--Businesses run the govt  for their own interest.


by jasmine on Tue Oct 24, 2006 at 09:42:22 AM EST


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