Mark Warner in New Hampshire

Mark Warner was in New Hampshire last night, speaking at a fundraiser for the NH Democratic Party. There is lots of of commentary from New Hampshire media about  Governor Warner's visit, including a video snippet on WMUR from the visit to Stonyfield Farm.



The Union Leader has a story online, one leading into Warner's visit to NH and the Stonyfield tour. And Ex-Va. Gov. in New Hampshire, by the AP's Holly Ramer, is on the wire.



And theConcord Monitor,  by Eric Moskowitz had a great writeup. Excerpt after the break.

Read more on the Forward Together blog. Jerome will be posting a podcast of the Governor's speech on Monday.

Warner gets a rousing welcome


Former Virginia governor cheered by state Democrats



...Warner scored his biggest applause of the night when he called out the many reasons why he's a dyed-in-the-wool Democrat.



"I'm a Democrat because the most noble political experiments of our time were birthed in our party," he said. He described the hundreds of thousands of impoverished Americans he says were saved by the New Deal, and spoke of the households in Africa and South America that still have faded photos of John F. Kennedy on the wall in tribute to the creation of the Peace Corps.



"I'm a Democrat because fighting for the working men and working women in our country is always the right fight," he said. "I'm a Democrat because of the struggle for civil rights - we were the party that led that struggle, and we must acknowledge that discrimination and bigotry are not dead in this country. And we must always redouble our efforts to make sure everyone gets a fair share."



Warner seemed determined to hit all the highlights in the history of the party, from Thomas Jefferson drafting the Declaration of Independence, to Roosevelt and Truman defeating fascism. The applause built steadily, hitting a crescendo as Warner brought his reasons for being a Democrat into the present.



"I'm a Democrat because when my three almost-perfect daughters go out into the world to make their lives, I want them to find a world where there's less hopelessness, less selfishness and less violence; where there's more opportunity, more understanding, more hope,"he said. "Ladies and gentlemen, fellow Democrats, we've got a lot of work to do. Let's make it happen."



That brought the crowd to its feet, and Warner - pumping his right fist in the air, thumb out - left to a sustained ovation....





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Re: Mark Warner in New Hampshire (3.00 / 1)

I hope all Democrats talk like Warner--on why they are a Democrat--if they do that then --there you find your Dem vision, Dem frame, Dem ideas, Dem values, etc.  

Because there is everything to be proud of the Dem Party.  First of all it is really the more Christian Party because it closely follows Christ precept of  Whatever you do to the least of my bretheren you do to me...An it values people over corporations unlike Republicans where energy policy, drug benefits are written for corporations.

Bill Clinton and many other past Dems prove that they are really the party of fiscal responsibility and good governance.


by jasmine on Sat Feb 11, 2006 at 11:27:12 PM EST

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Warner is my # 1 right now for 2008
followed by Feingold at # 2.

I like Warner because in just one term as Virginia governor, he got a lot of things done, and had a 75% approval rating in a red state when he left office.

I like Warner because he was a governor.  I prefer governors, plain and simple.  They are executives, and the presidency is an executive position.  It's no accident that governors have been successful in getting to the White House recently (since 1976).

When Warner says that the Democratic Party should be the party of the future, he hits it dead on.  We are progressive, so we should be moving forward.  As Bill Clinton noted during his presidency, the only contant is change, and we must be moving forward and adapt to these changes.  Too often over the last 5 years, the Democratic Party has seemed be stuck in neutral, or even looking backwards.  This needs to change.

Finally, Warner has had unique experiences.
As co-founder of Nextel, he has more experience firsthand with technology that virtually any other politician.  This puts him in a good position to lead the United States in this technology age, and address our competitive issues (i.e. with China and India), with science and engineering lagging in numbers and interest here at home.

Just my thoughts...

Excellent diary, by the way!


by v2aggie2 on Sun Feb 12, 2006 at 01:00:40 AM EST

Estate Tax (none / 0)

I just happened to come across an article which said he vetoed the repeal of the estate tax while Governor.  That sealed the deal.  He's my #1 pick.


by Bodot on Sun Feb 12, 2006 at 03:58:05 AM EST

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But where did he stand on the Alito or Roberts nomination. Bush might get one more pick next year if JP Stevens ret and might be the true swing voter.  We need his answer because if he becomes president he probably will fill the vacancy of Kennedy and Ginnsberg with a GOP senate.


by mleflo2 on Sun Feb 12, 2006 at 12:43:06 PM EST
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In order for Mark Warner to beat the top tier candidates, he needs some more work to do, this is to my friend the gatordemocrat that replied to my draft Jon Corzine for Senate.  Jon Corzine has worked at the national level, and Mark Warner didn't. He proved that he need some work like that interview that he gave to George Stephanopolis on ABC this week.  This is quoted by Donna Brazile.  If he doesn't work on this he will not be the democratic nominee.  He also need to clarify some things, like where did he stand on the Alito nomination and filibuster?  Where does he stand on Katrina. So far he gives mostly speeches about foreign crisis like the war in Iraq. He needs to pay more attention to domestic issues.


by mleflo2 on Sun Feb 12, 2006 at 11:34:11 AM EST

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Warner will need to come out with some stances on Katrina and Alito, but it is very early in the game. The reason why he has already addressed issues like Iraq is because that what a lot of the American people are focused on right now, and they're looking for alternatives.

I partially agree with your sentiment about national experience. Yes, its nice to have, but since 1976, only one president (Bush Sr.) could claim it. Bill Clinton didn't have any national experience when he was elected. To be fair, Clinton and Carter both were dealt severe blows because of this early in their terms. So national experience is something to look at in this campaign.

Warner I think makes up for this having to deal with a heavily Republian legislature, something Clinton nor Carter had to deal with when they were governors. Warner avoided intensely partisan clashes which often deblitate any kind of reform, which is what the people care about. Warner accomplished a lot in one term, and left office with an approval rating over 70% in a red leaning state.

So yes, Warner still has a lot of work to do (as do all the '08 contenders in my opinion) - yet he also has a lot to stand on.


"The collapse of confidence in the Republican leadership is not enough to elect Democratic leadership." -Dean
by gatordemocrat on Sun Feb 12, 2006 at 03:29:13 PM EST
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National Experience can also be a burden.

One could be tagged a "Washington insider" or someone who is out of touch.

That is a problem that Senators have to deal with.


by v2aggie2 on Sun Feb 12, 2006 at 05:55:08 PM EST
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National experience also means a record on national-level politics that you're tied to.  Right now, Warner could (in principle) be anything at the national level. However, he has demonstrated ability to be an executive that manages reform effectively with an opposition legislature.


by Lucas O'Connor on Sun Feb 12, 2006 at 06:25:07 PM EST
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Warner has stayed away from some legislative/domestic issues for two reasons:

  1. To counter his potential weakness on foreign affairs and national security. As a one-term governor, he's vulnerable to attacks based on a lack of experience in that field.
  2. To build up his image as a strong results-oriented executive. Supreme Court nominations and federal bureaucracy issues carry a strong potential for bogging him down in legislator-speak. He doesn't want to end up sounding like a Senator.

I do think Katrina offers a opening for Warner. As a governor, he can speak with a lot of weight on the issue of federalism and coordinating response to disasters and terrorist attacks. It's a sticky issue, though. As a moderate, he will want to avoid some of the class critiques and racial politicking that some folks in the base will demand (and perhaps rightfully so). Maybe Warner is staying away from Katrina because he sees it as a lose-lose situation for him. His best bet is focusing on things like Iraq and kitchen-table domestic priorities.


"There is nothing wrong with America that cannot be cured by what is right with America"- Bill Clinton
by bluenc on Mon Feb 13, 2006 at 12:44:52 AM EST
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Thanks for the post.  I am a big Mark Warner fan having lived in VA when he ran against John Warner in 1996.  He has a lot of talent and I think he has what it takes to go all the way.  The Dems have done well when they have nominated Southern Govs.


by John Mills on Sun Feb 12, 2006 at 08:38:08 PM EST

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Al Gore and John Edwards were from the South, watch out. Just because one is from the south doesn't make you invincible.  The South is really not in play except for OH, MO, WV, and FL.  All the other the states are pretty much dead due to the Reagan and Gingrich revolutions.  You have to take the Kerry states plus NH, take the 4 Southern States and you take IA, NM, CO, and NV and one have to get 270. TN, AR, NC, SC, GA, AL, MS, LA, OK, and TX are pretty much off limits. VA may be in play.


by mleflo2 on Sun Feb 12, 2006 at 09:38:29 PM EST
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Arkansas is very much in play. Tennessee is as well, but to a lesser extent. North Carolina could be put in play with the right candidate.


by JRyan on Sun Feb 12, 2006 at 10:22:50 PM EST
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neither though was a southern governor.


by Lucas O'Connor on Sun Feb 12, 2006 at 10:44:10 PM EST
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JRyan hit the nail on the head re: NC,TN and AR.

 Thanks to amazing Northern VA growth and the blue demographics up there, VA is very much in play along with Arkansas.  Warner specifically would run away with VA by a huge margin even if he were running against Allen (there was a poll showing this).  Were it not for Katrina, you couldn't write off LA either.  However, the Katrina migrations will make Texas a shade bluer which may help us net a CD or two there as well as a small boost in statewide races.  

Another point worth considering is that Gore and Edwards weren't governors so their image was tied closer to the national congressional wing of the party.

Warner is the man.  I'm so glad to see him getting love in the netroots.  (Scoff) and to think some said he wasn't a good speaker.


by rapid response on Sun Feb 12, 2006 at 10:48:58 PM EST
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But they weren't Southern governors.

Of course, being Southern isn't a requirement, either.

It is the governor part that is in play.

Arkansas and Virginia are in play for sure.


by v2aggie2 on Mon Feb 13, 2006 at 12:07:55 AM EST
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We have good candidates in Biden and Clark and Feingold as well, that aren't governors.


by mleflo2 on Mon Feb 13, 2006 at 07:10:52 AM EST
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Senators are generally losers for the Presidency - only 4 have been elected in our nation's history, the last being Kennedy 46 years ago.  President is an executive position which is why Govs and Generals (sometimes) win.  Plus, it is way too easy to twist Senators votes - look what was done to Kerry.  He didn't help himself but votes are so easy to distort.  


by John Mills on Mon Feb 13, 2006 at 09:49:34 AM EST
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John Kerry came from a pro-gay marriage state.  And the marriage of gays didn't help him during the time of the election when thousands of gays got married and it was excerbated when CA and NY got into the act.  As a result, the Catholic Archidoises, the pro-life vatian used this as a wedge issue in FL and OH.


by mleflo2 on Mon Feb 13, 2006 at 11:15:03 AM EST
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All true but the flip flopper came directly from distorting votes, many of them procedural, Kerry had taken.  Govs have clearer records of accomplishment or failure than legislators.  Plus, they have management experience.  It is the reason I prefer Govs to Sens when it comes to Presidency.


by John Mills on Mon Feb 13, 2006 at 12:06:42 PM EST
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Well Mark Warner isn't doing so well in the state he needs to carry to win and that is SC and Edwards a fmr senator is doing better than he is.  He need to catch up and fast or Edwards and Hillary will be the ones standing. VA comes way down the line.


by mleflo2 on Mon Feb 13, 2006 at 12:37:55 PM EST
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Edwards was born in South Carolina, and lives in a neighoring state across the state line.

I would be surprised if he wasn't winning there.
He needed SC in 2004 just to stay afloat.


by v2aggie2 on Thu Feb 16, 2006 at 01:04:11 AM EST
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With the right candidate & message, AR,TN,WV,FL & VA should be in play.

You can't count Edwards in his '04 performance. He was not running for President.

Al Gore was so detached from TN from growing up in Washington & being elected Senator & VP. Not to mention his label as a "Liberal" amoung TN voters which obviously hurt him. Look at Brendesen & now Ford. They are doing well in TN
As I said, you got to have the right Southerner to appeal to Southerners.

Warner definitely proves that he has it. His successfully backing of Tim Kaine just reinforced that. IF somehow we can defeat Allen with say Webb, with again 100% backing from Mark Warner- his stock would again take it to the next level.

And if VA should go Dem again for statewide office, that's Warner, Kaine, & Webb. I think VA will surely be competitive WITH THE RIGHT CANDIDATE.


by fightingLadyinblue on Mon Feb 13, 2006 at 09:19:38 PM EST
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TN is almost entirely out of play. TN went to Clinton by 1.5% while Clinton won nationally by 9% in 1996, and this so-called state "in play" didn't even vote for its former senator / vice president when he won the national vote by a half a percent. TN politics is much different, Lincoln Davis is considered by TN a "moderate democrat", but by national standards a borderline republican or DINO. It will take someone REALLY popular or someone who is as conservative as that to win over TN, something that clearly no one, even a 'southerner' (and I use that term lightly) like Mark Warner.

It's also dubious as to whether or not Warner could pick up WV, OH, or MO, 3 important states to win for the presidency, as the key to winning those states is being pro-labor, something Warner has hardly demonstrated.

And, in any event, Warner is likely to lose the NYC Metropolitan area and 3 electorally-rich bluestates pitted up against the candidacy of Rudy Guliani, so I'm not too optimistic about his "electability" icon.


by KainIIIC on Mon Feb 13, 2006 at 09:34:19 PM EST
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I do like Mark Warner a lot as a governor but I saw him testify before the House on his role as the co-chair of the National Governors Association (NGA) along with Gov. Huckabee and they were proposing the Gov's take on Medicaid reform.  I saw him propose the implementation of copayments for Medicaid and I wasn't too happy about that.  

Warner is my candidate right now but I want him to be more on the progressive side and less of a blue dog.


by burroughs on Mon Feb 13, 2006 at 02:21:38 AM EST

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If Warner was more on the Liberal side, do you think he would have won the Governorship of VA?

Look at the new polls that just came out in the last 5 days on.

Democrats Gov. Granholm of Michigan, Sebelius of KS, Gov. Frudenthal of WY, Senate candidate Morrison of MT, Gov, candidate Mike Beebe of Arkansas, Gov. Napolitino of AZ, Ford of TN.

ALL MODERATE DEMOCRATS who are polling very well in mostly Red states like KS,WY,MT,AZ,AR, TN. Do you think that if they were running Left, they would be an incumbent today or do you think they would be ahead in red states?

You have to realize the majority of american voters especially in a national election are to the right of the progressive base.

Its hard enough being unfairly labeled a Liberal in a national election by the GOP manchine.


by fightingLadyinblue on Mon Feb 13, 2006 at 09:29:39 PM EST
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Granholm is HARDLY considered "popular" even in a bluestate, while a democrat like Kathleen Sebelius is undoubtly the most leftwing out of anyone you named there.

People didn't elect John Kerry because he was 'too liberal', they didn't elect him because he was boring, aristocratic, a flip-flopper, and a weak leader.

It's DLC-centrism at its best that while might've helped Clinton get elected in '92 and Warner elected in a nailbiter in '01, certainly will not make much traction among the democratic base OR the general electorate, everyone hates calculating politicians.


by KainIIIC on Mon Feb 13, 2006 at 09:41:11 PM EST
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As I said before, Warner and Evan Bayh will be able to pick up OH and NV and one more crucial battleground for a 288-247 electoral victory.  Probably MO, because it is a gun state and Warner is right on guns. But he needs to bump his national security credentials in order to get there.


by mleflo2 on Tue Feb 14, 2006 at 04:06:18 PM EST

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Until he does cross that threshold, he won't catch Hillary and get to the 291-247 electoral victory.


by mleflo2 on Tue Feb 14, 2006 at 04:09:33 PM EST

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I meant the 288-250 electoral victory.


by mleflo2 on Tue Feb 14, 2006 at 04:11:24 PM EST

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It's no fluke Warner left office with towering approval ratings. I've lived in Southwest Virginia for eight months and he's greatly appreciated down here because he actually came down to introduce new jobs coming to the region; he didn't forget us! When those 300 software jobs opened in Lebanon, with jobs offering twice the county's average income, there were lines around the corner of job applicants. And there were college kids saying "now I don't have to leave my hometown," as reported by the local newspaper, so when Warner said that in his NH speech, that wasn't bull. Can you imagine the support he'll get in the Rust Belt if he pushes insourcing and the promise of better paying jobs to those areas? He loved being governor and openly admitted he would miss it dearly.

His attitude is very Bill Clinton: help people help themselves; if you work hard and want to enter the workforce or college but are unable to because perhaps of money or other obsticles, we'll help out.

As for the lack of foreign policy experience, I want to remind everyone that simply being a senator doesn't mean you have any. When I think "foreign policy experience," I think veterans, Pentagon or State Department officials, diplomats, ambassadors or those who have served on foreign-related committees for many years. LBJ was a great senator and ate, slept and breathed politics but was very inexperienced in foreign issues. Warner will develop in time enough foreign policy know-how to talk about it more knowledgeably. I'd rather have Warner honestly say right now "I don't know for sure" about a certain policy question than make something up with political jargin. He's been able to cast himself, and all governors at that rate, as better decision-makers when it comes to policymaking because as the executive, you have to sign it or veto it and you own whatever decision you make and are partly responsable for its success or failure.

Also, only two presidents in the 20th Century have been elected directly from Congress (Harding in 1920 and JFK in 1960) and most governors-turned-president in the past 70 years are remembered for important diplomatic breakthroughs (FDR during WWII, Carter with the Camp David Accords, Reagan with the Soviets, Clinton with the Dayton Accords). If Warner surrounds himself with the right people in terms of foreign policy, he will be able to better delegate authority to them -- he is a master consensus-builder after all -- but I'm confident he will always make the final decision in all matters. He doesn't fear responsibility and making important decisions, he embraces it!

Warner in '08!


"Being in a minority, even a minority of one, did not make you mad." -- George Orwell
by mkfox on Fri Feb 17, 2006 at 03:36:36 AM EST


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