LA-2: It all starts with the levees

There are a number of must-read articles floating around the blogosphere regarding St. Paul Travelers decision to stop "renewing many commercial insurance policies in the New Orleans area" beginning next spring.  Scout Prime, Firedoglake, and Right Hand Thief are good places to start.

What businesses would come back if New Orleans was uninsurable?  What new ones would emerge?  If someone wanted to effectively kill the city, this would be a good way to do it.  When Congress appropriated $1.59 billion dollars last year to "restore the existing hurricane protection infrastructure" it specified rebuilding levees to protect against the "equivalent of a fast-moving Category 3 hurricane."  Category Three just isn't good enough ... not for the people who died, were stranded, or lost everything in August 2005.  And it's not good enough for the insurers who cite the "state of the rebuilding of our levee system as the primary reason for their decision."

I wrote yesterday about making the Gulf Coast a priority during 101st hour of the new Democratic Majority.  A template for action created by Congressmen Taylor (MS) and Melancon (LA) already exists.  The report, "Katrina and Beyond," notes the importance of rebuilding the levees to protect against Category Five storms:

Congress should mandate the construction of a Category 5 levee system and corresponding flood control structures to ensure protection for all residents of metropolitan New Orleans.

To move forward with the construction and rehabilitation of the hurricane protection systems in Louisiana and Mississippi, it is in the best interest of the Nation's taxpayers to ensure that all construction meets the realistic threats of future storms.  Wetlands subsidence, land erosion, and global climate change have all contributed to the Gulf Coast's increased vulnerability to powerful hurricanes.  The mission of USACE on the Gulf Coast has already accounted for a significant investment of taxpayer dollars; it would be negligent not to build meaningful protection.  The incremental cost involved in constructing Category 5 levees is small compared to the lives and property spared by real hurricane protection.

Rebuilding the levees to protect against the most unimaginable of storms is quite possibly the most important way to ensure the people written off after Katrina are able to rebuild without being written off again, by insurers.  As the Taylor/Melancon plan notes, not only is it the right thing to do, but it's good business as well.



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Bullshit, surely? (none / 0)

The insurance company has announced it's not renewing policies in the NO area next year.

And that's being linked with the fact that the levees won't be rebuilt to withstand Category 5 storms?

And the connection? If work started today on bringing the levees up to Category 5 standard, how many years would it be before that could be achieved?

A piece from August has LSU's hurricane guy saying that

Category 5 protection is possible...for a total outlay of $30 billion over 10 years

To put the counterfactual: would the insurance company have not made the non-renewal decision in 2007 if there had been a promise now of Category 5 protection in 2017?

A lot of water will flow under the bridge, as it were, before then.

Perhaps the Federal government should reinsure catastrophic risk for insurance companies which would otherwise redline Katrina-hit areas. (What has it done in the past in such circumstances, I wonder?)

Perhaps it should rebuild the levees to Cat 5 standards.

Clearly no one in said Federal government is in effective charge of the situtation (big surprise) and, to judge from the attention devoted to Katrina in the long version of New Direction (two namechecks), the Dem hierarchy is not overly anxious to rush in with a plan. (And you could understand a degree of reluctance given that any such plan would be entrusted to the same idiots who screwed up in the first place.)


by skeptic06 on Mon Dec 04, 2006 at 05:44:51 PM EST

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You'd get a lot more bang for the buck if you shut down MrGO (cost < 1million?) and restored the wetlands (15 bn over 10 years). Then a cat5 levee wouldn't be necessary.

New Orleans shouldn't need a levee system that big because they should have the greatest protection from huge wetlands that would take up all the surge from the storm.

Ultimately more levees will just create many of the same problems that caused the disaster in the first place. I'm not saying no levees, I'm just saying that it's ridiculous to leave out the devastation that MRGO and the destruction of wetlands when talking about what caused Katrina. Both of these two points are man-made problems. It wasn't the hurricane that did in NO, it was man.


by adamterando on Mon Dec 04, 2006 at 06:01:44 PM EST
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Re: Bullshit, surely? (none / 0)

MRGO (or "Mr. Go) is the Mississippi River Gulf Outlet.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mississippi _River_Gulf_Outlet

I know because I had to look it up ;)


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by joejoejoe on Tue Dec 05, 2006 at 01:36:14 AM EST
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Re: LA-2: It all starts with the levees (none / 0)

The insurance situation in both Louisiana and Mississippi is inexcusable. For those who can even get insurance (which will not be many after the St. Paul pullout) the rates are astronomical.

In Missisisppi some insurance companies have red lined a large area of 1 mile or so from the Gulf of Mexico and adjoining bays, rivers, bayous, etc. Those who can actually get insurance are faced with premiums often as high as $10,000 a year. That stalls rebuilding in a large area of the most prime real estate.

Before the St. Paul pullout, there were articles in the past several months about small businesses in Louisiana such as stores and restaurants are looking at premiums of $70,000 a year for 2007. Needless to say not many businesses can pay those types of premiums and be able to stay open nor can they get financing without insurance.

I own properties in several of the areas hardest hit by Katrina. While there is little recovery of homeowners and small businesses going on there is a big push by condo developers, large investors, etc. who are pushing ahead with their projects which will target high rollers from out of state. Most of the condo projects will have prices that start at $1 million and up. Mississippi has so far done a lot more (under a GOP governor) toward recovery for homeowners and small businesses but obstacles on the federal level, insurance company lawsuits, insurance pullouts and rates, etc. are beyond the control of local and state government.        

We will eventually see a recovery but New Orleans will most likely resemble the upscale neighborhoods of San Francisco  and Mississippi will resemble the upscale areas of Miami. Same place but different faces.


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by robliberal on Mon Dec 04, 2006 at 06:26:41 PM EST

Re: LA-2: It all starts with the levees (none / 0)

What, pray tell, is "prime" about land that is going to be regularly scoured by massive storms in the next few decades? Anybody who builds in low lying coastal areas in these days of Global Warming is STUPID. I fail to see why I have to subsidize their stupidity with my insurance premiums or taxes.

I can see why you want billions wasted there, rebuilding levees and such, no doubt hoping for a chance to unload your property. If that is truly not the reason, you should know that Joe Paycheck can't afford to indulge your emotional attachment to that city. Fight for a government buy out, take the check and RUN.

Benjamin Franklin said the definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results. I think rebuilding New Orleans and the gulf coast would qualify. Because, sure as death and taxes, if we rebuild, we'll be here again. Sooner or later, we WILL be here again.


by Twiny1 on Mon Dec 04, 2006 at 11:35:52 PM EST
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Re: LA-2: It all starts with the levees (none / 0)

Q1: So you want to abandon half of the USA refineries, and most of your seafood?

Q2: Did you suggest we abandon NYC after 9/11?  Why not?  Should we have abandoned Chicago after the fire?  Why not?

Q3: It wasn't the storm, it was the failed federal levees.

We haven't been "scoured" for quite a long time.  Don't speak of stupidity until you tell us where you live...


by DrAsh on Tue Dec 05, 2006 at 12:23:11 AM EST
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Re: LA-2: It all starts with the levees (none / 0)

Don't be stupid.

1. Refineries can be protected for far less than 30 billion dollars. Correct me if I'm wrong, but aren't those refineries back in production?

2. Abandon NYC for the loss of a few buildings? Stupid.
Abandon Chicago after an occurrence that could, and did happen in other cities? Also stupid. Chicago got little, if any federal money to rebuild. And when they did rebuild, it was with fire resistant materials.
Abandon NOLA for the loss of what? Two thirds of the city? No. Stay if you like, just don't expect me to pay to rebuild that two thirds and the levees around it. Any area that saw more than a few feet of flooding should be given back to nature.

3. And what makes you think the feds will do any better this time? And what about the sinking of the whole city in a time when sea levels will be rising?

Face facts. The coast of this country is going to be flooded. We can't afford to levee the entire coastline. We'll have to leave the areas that flood. NOLA is just the beginning.


by Twiny1 on Fri Feb 16, 2007 at 10:51:28 AM EST
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Re: LA-2: It all starts with the levees (none / 0)

Two years ago I got hit by 3 hurricanes in Florida. Should Florida not be rebuilt as well?

Many billions of dollars have been spent plowing roads in northern cities over the years. Few in the South suggest that people abandon their homes because 'snow will only happen again'.

There are dangers inherent to living anywhere.


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by joejoejoe on Tue Dec 05, 2006 at 01:44:37 AM EST
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Re: LA-2: It all starts with the levees (none / 0)

There will not be many places in the United States where global warming will not have an impact. If we  start to abandon the coastal areas of the United States where should we start?

New York City?
Miami?
Houston?
Los Angeles?
San Francisco?  


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by robliberal on Tue Dec 05, 2006 at 01:46:13 AM EST
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Re: LA-2: It all starts with the levees (none / 0)

All of the above.

It will happen. Sooner or later, it will.


by Twiny1 on Fri Feb 16, 2007 at 10:53:14 AM EST
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Re: LA-2: It all starts with the levees (none / 0)

Thank you for giving visbility to this.

I concur that Mr Go has gotta go - and that this is a man made problem that requires a national will (and a national sense that 'this is us, not them') to resolve. Many people are writing quite wonderfully about this. But how do we translate that into constructive, concrete Netroots action steps?


by lb0313 on Mon Dec 04, 2006 at 09:20:26 PM EST

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One point - real flood protection requires rebuilding the swamps and the outshoor islands and removing the houses from them, so they can act as sponges and a buffer zone.  To save New Orleans will require getting serious about restraining sprawl around New Orleans.

That would be very unpopular, but it is necessary.  Levees only go so far.


by Ian Welsh on Tue Dec 05, 2006 at 05:51:24 AM EST

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I live in Biloxi, MS, and I can say, I doubt that the Gulf Coast or New Orleans will ever build back to the same degree. You can STILL drive on 90 and see destroyed houses and parking lots where businesses used to be. Heck, I live about 100 yards away from buildings which have been gutted, whose owners I presume left them to be abandoned. Who's going to jump in to take over THAT bit of prime real estate? I don't know of many willing to take a risk that big...


by LnGrrrR on Tue Dec 05, 2006 at 01:04:29 PM EST

Re: LA-2: It all starts with the levees (none / 0)

I think a lot of it will be back.  The question is how long til it does, and will it be back in a form that isn't heartbreaking?

Then again, Galveston never really came back.  But Kobe came back.  Dresden came back.  San Francisco came back.

If there is the will, and there is the money, it will happen.  Sadly the GOP's reputation for being the Party of Resolve and the Party of Financing is all a sham...when the shit hits the fan, they're supremely ineffectual in exactly the areas in which they claim to be experts.

Whether the Democrats are any better, we shall see.

Meanwhile down here we'll continue to do the job ourselves.  But secession sounds better every day.


by ray in new orleans on Tue Dec 05, 2006 at 02:04:20 PM EST

Re: LA-2: It all starts with the levees (none / 0)

Ray,

Yeah, New Orleans is still rough, although it was nice to see Bourbon Street back up. I remember last year I bought about 300 dollars worth of toys to drop off at the hospital in New Orleans for Christmas, only to see the hospital boarded up and abandoned. Thankfully the Kids Hospital was still open, so I drove there to drop them off.


by LnGrrrR on Tue Dec 05, 2006 at 02:30:27 PM EST
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