Roots & '07 blogosphere

I spent the weekend at the RootsCamp, which was a huge success. The ad hoc meetings that I attended yesterday were: a Forward Together de-briefing of the internet activities of the PAC by its staffers, Joe Trippi talk about 2008, State blogs, and a technology roundtable. Then today I went to a what worked in the states and a VAN meeting. There is always a lot of networking that goes on with these sort of events, but the set-up of creating meetings and topics on the fly, really made for some terrific learning opportunities.

In the FT PAC debriefing, we had representatives from 3-4 of the Presidential campaigns; in the technology roundtable, we had the DNC and Catalyst at the same table; and in the state-based meetings we    learned about what happening all over the country through blogs. I came out of it with a real strong inclination to push forward on moving the ball forward both through integration of the technology platforms through data sharing solutions and better coordination of the state and national political blogospheres. And that's largely what I'll be working on in 2007, so more on that later.

One thing that Trippi said that made a ton of sense was that the right would go real right for '08. This 'eye' is a blogger that I've been lurking on for a few months, and he's got a couple (here and here) of posts worth reading and following the links through, for more of what's happening on the rightside of the blogosphere. Basically, the conservative side of the political blogosphere is looking to have their Dean-like moment next year. Meanwhile, as RootsCamp made obvious to me, the progressive side of the blogosphere is moving into fullscale integration of the netroots with the political machinery of the Democratic Party (like it or not), and toward a national coordination and funding of the 50 state-based blogospheres. We are a long way from arriving at those two goals, but compared to the rightside of the blogosphere, we are much further toward that happening. Of course, they've got a whole propoganda machine that they fit into as just another cog in the wheel, and we have nothing like it on the left... but it's at least encouraging to note that though McCain might be clearly favored in the mainstream, he's not even close being assurred the nomination by the Republican base. I'm still thinking it's Huckabee that will breakout in Iowa as the choice of theocons.



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The fact that the GOPer's in the Senate put Trent Lott back into a leadership position says a lot to me.  If that is the direction they are headed, then our horizons are even brighter than we know.


by global yokel on Sun Dec 03, 2006 at 09:12:46 PM EST

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I think Trippi is not really all there. Dean made his statement almost by himself. Joe Trippi was paid to simply stand there and tell Dean to let them have it.

What Dean did, in I and my husband's view at least, was stand, as an American, in his kitchen, holding a copy of the new york times and just lift his voice up to heaven "what in the heck is going on here?"

To a person, every man woman and child in America should be uplifted one day by his simple story. He rose to the top of the Democratic party and even, before he was paul - simoned by Gephardt - to the top of the ticket.

Then, people like Trippi killed him off. They thought he simply wasn't "presidential". Who were they to judge? This man had risen up to the  top of every single american's mind, love or hate, because he had one goal: to speak truth to power. And how!

So, now, thanks to Dean and Deaniacs (let's count: Chris Bowers, Myself, Everyone here..) we now have a "Give 'em hell Harry" Senate Majority Leader and the first woman speaker of the house in history.

Her agenda is my agenda: get to work, and get the job done.

If the Democratic party succeeds in that, it is no longer simply a cynical numbers game. This is the only game where trippi is a factor (did anyone see Trippi's ads that he ran on Dean - or his "sea of orange stocking caps" anti-campaigning for Dean in Iowa?).

Please pardon  me for being so blunt, but someone like Jerome Armstrong to my mind has more throw weight than Trippi. After all, Trippi has never managed a successful campaign.

And of course, Trippi's point is also well taken. The Republicans are publicly stating, through their endlessly recycled talking point memos sent out to everyone who will mindlessly parrot them back to the "Base" that they are seeking a "new leader of conservatism".

But the truth is that most conservatives as well as most liberals will continue to punch for the donkey when it will come polling time.

For Trippi to predict a shift to the right, is actually a curse in blessings disguise - he is simply writing off Nancy Pelosi.

Please try this simple thought experiment, all you wonderful testosterone soaked males out there who see this as some kind of baseball statistics numbers game --

What if Nancy kicks ass?

Will people want to move away from someone who actually gets things done?

I think not. Just as I would not support Hillary Clinton (who seems to be more about style than substance) I will not discount the butterfly effect that the Democrats making a strong run out of the gate -  a butterfly effect that will change the very fabric of the american polity fo ryears to come.

Because it will acknowledge what trippi felt he had to write a book about to claim, but what 2006, without his meddling - shows to be true - that the internet is now the dominate force in American politics. Al Gore didn't invent it but the fact that he and Moveon.org did a great job at GOTV means that the move is on , not to the left or right - but to the truth.

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.. and when I win the lottery, gonna donate half my money to the city so they have to name a school or a park after me - camper van beethoven
by heyAnita on Sun Dec 03, 2006 at 09:27:50 PM EST

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The session was actually subtitled "Kick Trippi" -- heyAnita I think you would have enjoyed it.

I think Speaker Pelosi is going to do great -- what I said was that the Republicans are going to move to the far right and crash themselves hard.

Take care and thanks for every thing you did to make 2006 an historic win for Democrats.


by JoeTrippi on Sun Dec 03, 2006 at 10:02:57 PM EST
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I Still own Dumpjoe.com if Anita wants to make an offer,LMAO

I Agree they're going far right and think Brownback may be the new Messiah.

I predicted McCain/Lieberman 08 Unity ticket way back in 04 and I still think it's coming.


by ctkeith on Sun Dec 03, 2006 at 11:31:21 PM EST
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LOL~ :-/ hmm I don't know if I want dumpjoe, I think I would only use it for caffeine rehabilative services. Or maybe if Joe lieberman decides to pull a "zell".  Trippi still has his farm, he can't really be all that bad, can he?

My take on the GOP 8 is that the whole "real man conservative thing" is a beard that the pundits are wearing to hide their nomination of Newt Gingrich as VP.

This is a standard model of power for the Bush republicans. The nixon republicans are so beaten up right now, they might make a deal and cave in but funny as it seems, at least, in my view - the beating has come from their own party and much less the democrats

I think the democrats will be able to take full responsibility for a vigorous session this coming january

The nixon republicans, who play along twenty year lines of power - and who are all responsible for the southern strategy + the victories the bush republicans enjoyed ..

are all praying that the democrats will dismast themselves. They know however that the only way to clean up the bush republicans is to actually get to work. Bush republicans have eaten the chips + drank every last drop from the fridge + I think they will just leave when you ask them to make up their own beds.

PS check the phone bill! they probably made some long distance calls on us too!


.. and when I win the lottery, gonna donate half my money to the city so they have to name a school or a park after me - camper van beethoven
by heyAnita on Mon Dec 04, 2006 at 08:24:00 AM EST
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At the risk of sounding like a wet blanket, the pics from Roots camp were awfully white and awfully male. This really is a problem for Netroots and we need more black, female, and rural bloggers. So if anyone answering to any or all of those descriptions is reading this, please start blogging!


by Alice Marshall on Sun Dec 03, 2006 at 09:33:51 PM EST

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makeup of the attendees very well. it was actually a pretty diverse crowd.


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by lipris on Mon Dec 04, 2006 at 02:26:50 AM EST
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It was definitely disproportionately white and male. More so than YearlyKos, for example.


by The Cunctator on Mon Dec 04, 2006 at 10:53:51 AM EST
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I'd have to concur. There were some key panels headed up by folks of color -- especially the great DNC "50 State Strategy" operatives -- but definitely not enough.
How can we expand this movement so it's not so dang lilly white?
by Texas Nate on Mon Dec 04, 2006 at 12:20:54 PM EST
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Agreed. There were a lot of white males at rootscamp, but it was still a fairly diverse crowd.

...and the females in attendance most definitely made their voices heard.


by laurenm on Mon Dec 04, 2006 at 02:56:23 PM EST
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I guess the guy taking the pictures should have turned the camera on himself.


by Jerome Armstrong on Mon Dec 04, 2006 at 04:42:55 AM EST
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I'd just like to echo that although I think we can always use more more diversity in any setting, this event didn't feel homogeneous at all.

Here's just one photo from the FTPAC/Warner debrief session that Jerome mentioned which includes only one of us white boys. Of course this is a reflection of the diversity on the staff Jerome hired in the internet dept.

From my POV, I was impressed with the number of super smart women who attended and actively participated.

I think it's also important to point out this wasn't a bloggers conference, although many great bloggers were there. It was field directors, data geeks, superstar phone banking captains and other offline organizers. So I'm not sure it was a direct reflection of the netroots.

Regardless, you're right that we need more diversity in the progressive blogosphere.


by clockwerks on Mon Dec 04, 2006 at 05:29:49 AM EST
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From what I've seen in SC, my most hardcore neocon/theocon acquaintances are already lining up with either McCain or Romney.  (I've been quite surprised with how many have rationalized the Mormon factor...given that it's the Deep South and all.)

Perhaps this year will break the trend, but the SC Republican primary has chosen the Republican nominee every year since 1980, when Lee Atwater buckled down the "first in the South" primary for SC.

The two biggest GOP consultants in SC have signed onto '08 campaigns, and they are the same ones who waged the Bush v. McCain bloodbath here in 2000.  Bush's SC consultant, Warren Tompkins, is backing Romney this go 'round, and McCain stuck with his '00 consultant, Richard Quinn.

I do think the right is looking for a Huckabee-esque type to gain some momentum in the field, but given the allegiances of operatives here to the respective SC GOP camps, I don't see anyone else getting much oxygen in SC.


by Laurin from SC on Sun Dec 03, 2006 at 10:00:20 PM EST

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The differences in SC and IA are really strong in that regard, and likewise, the Indy vote there in SC, compared with the IA caucus (or straw vote for the GOP) is a big difference.


by Jerome Armstrong on Mon Dec 04, 2006 at 04:45:30 AM EST
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How does the GOP landscape in NH factor in?


by Laurin from SC on Mon Dec 04, 2006 at 10:29:52 AM EST
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Right wing ideologues have done increasingly well in the Iowa caucusses.  In 1988, Pat Robertson finished second with 24.6% to Bob Dole's 37.4%. In 1996,Pat Buchanan finished a surprisingly close second to Bob Dole with 23% of the vote (22,512 votes),  steve Forbes got 10%. A little noticed fact from the Iowa caucusses in 2000 is that right wingers who had never held off ice got a majority of the votes (Forbes 30%, Keyes 14%, Bauer 9%). Bush was the only politician actively competing.  He got 41%, with McCain who was sitting it out, getting 5% and Hatch getting 1%.

What this shows is that the right has gotten a large and increasing share of the vote.   If the Iowa straw poll had not scasred off Lamar Alexander, Liddy Dole, Dan Quayle and the other pros, Forbes would have beaten Bush.

In 2008, with 60% plus of the Iowa vote being hard right, their time may have come.


by David Kowalski on Sun Dec 03, 2006 at 10:18:51 PM EST

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I would have thought the 2006 losses would have chastened the right wing Repubs so they'd swallow their extermism and get behind McCain as their most electable candidate.

The same reasons McCain would appeal to independents and Reagan Democrats in the general election (iconoclastic, war hero, balanced budget, populist/libertarian pitch, straight talk etc.) would also be appealing to the right wing Republicans in the primaries.

Gives them an excuse to vote for McCain.

He's certainly the most dangerous candidate in 2008 for Democrats.  A more right wing candidate and they Republicans are losers.


by BrionLutz on Sun Dec 03, 2006 at 10:35:36 PM EST
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I came out of it with a real strong inclination to push forward on moving the ball forward both through integration of the technology platforms through data sharing solutions and better coordination of the state and national political blogospheres. And that's largely what I'll be working on in 2007, so more on that later.
This has me very intrigued. I've got a pretty long and deep technology background as well as a fair bit of IT strategy experience, not to mention my share of political bumps and bruises, but I just don't seem to be able to get my brain around these kinds of statements. What kind of integration? What capabilities are we talking? What is the potential off-line payoff?

I'm really curious (and jealous that I seem to be missing the IT innovation gene...) about what's going on in your noodle with this.


by Joe in Wynnewood PA on Sun Dec 03, 2006 at 10:43:20 PM EST

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It has to be in part good voter file database.

Yes, we do need to do a much better job coordinating between state and national blogospheres.  I have pretty much stopped blogging on national issues to try and build up the local blogosphere here in CA.  We are making gains, slowly but surely.


by juls on Mon Dec 04, 2006 at 02:18:21 AM EST
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I am curious which potential Democratic candidates had represenatives at the meeting.


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by robliberal on Mon Dec 04, 2006 at 12:13:06 AM EST

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I met great people who work directly for Bill Richardson, Chris Dodd and Hillary Clinton. And there were of course vendors who work for some of the others like Vilsack.


by clockwerks on Mon Dec 04, 2006 at 05:34:31 AM EST
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There were people supporting most, if not all, of the potential candidates at various levels of the campaign food chain but sort of "unofficially" -- it's not like there were meetings for, say, Vilsack, Obama, Clark or Edwards.


by howardpark on Mon Dec 04, 2006 at 09:38:05 AM EST
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The more I hear about Huckabee the more I am thinking he could pull a surprise in Iowa. None of the big 3 are a good fit for Iowa so Huckabee may have a shot at pulling together the various conservative voters like others have in the past - Pat Robertson in 1988, Pat Buchanan in 1996, and Steve Forbes in 2000.


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by robliberal on Mon Dec 04, 2006 at 12:22:17 AM EST

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Iowa has produced some genuine surprises in the GOP over the years but NH & SC usually throw cold water on the fire.  There is sure to be a little manuvering on the GOP side -- for example, some Rebublican, no doubt, will propose that the Nevada GOP follow the Dems in having and early caucus, anybody know about this or other states that might try to move up in the GOP process?  Tiier rules are established 4 years before but that would not, necessarily, prevent a GOP legislator from trying to shake up the process.


by howardpark on Mon Dec 04, 2006 at 08:48:50 AM EST
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I don't understand... what is the right's agenda?

The Dean-moment was about standing up for actual values of the Democratic party basically a center-left to middle-left position.

The right blogosphere is who...? Authoritarian Christianists?


by MNPundit on Mon Dec 04, 2006 at 01:51:07 AM EST

The VAN (none / 0)

Then today I went to a what worked in the states and a VAN meeting.

Are you referring to the "Voter Activation Network" voter database? If so, the more detail, the better the targetting. If we target voters at the precinct level (and smaller) with more sophistication, we then make the most efficient use of resources and we win.
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by Michael Bersin on Mon Dec 04, 2006 at 05:31:18 AM EST

technology (3.00 / 1)

Was there a technology forum? It seems to me that the biggest millstone around our necks is that for the most part we haven't progressed beyond MoveableType and Wordpress for the vast majority of sites. DK (and to a lesser extent, myDD) push the envelope with respect to community building, and are embracing Web 2.0 stuff like tagging, but the barrier to entry for a small blogger to use the platform tools such as Scoop (plus the custom mods) is too high. And tagging hasnt been leveraged in any meaningful sense - its good practice, but we arent exploiting it in any sense.   I think that the only real example of any innovation has been ActBlue, and that is of course money orinted, which is essential bit also serves just to emphasize the "netroots = ATM" meme among the establishment.

There are a number of new technologies that in my view are poorly utilized and which would if leveraged well essentially act as force-multipliers. Instead of using new web tools to build links between blogs and knit together the progressive blogsphere into a larger whole, its evolved into isolated silos. Theresa huge DK silo over there, a myDD silo over here, Atrios over there, etc. These silos link occassionally to smaller fry but theres no routine system for "mining the long tail". As such we have a fragmented message. I dont advocate top-down message coordination as is on the right, but i think that we dont facilitate the rise of "idea bubbles" from below that well either. Diaries at DK used to be good for this but its just too big. There has to be better ways.

Here's an example of a better way (though not the ONLY way!): Del.icio.us. Look at how I deployed a del.icio.us-driven "real-time link carnival" for the Islamic blogsphere. The idea is that good links form small blogs can be promoted and disseminated widely and simultaneously on all the bigger blogs. A universal sidebar of sorts.

Another example is polling technology. There's no reason we cant build a truly scientific (email-verified) system for online polling. Why play the "freep this poll" game when we can set the agenda ourselves? And again it has to be meta - not the privince of a single blog but able to be spread horizontally across silos. I'm not the poll expert around here but I am sure that Bowers, Stoller et al can think of flaws in present online metods and also of oppostunities that come with having our own system. I will note however that online polls have the potential to be MORE scientific than phone-driven ones, since the sample size is potentailly larger. And yeah there wil be correlations with income and whatnot given the online selection, but these can be removed with moderately sophisticated statistical analysis: we have a lot of scientists in our community and we science types account for confounds al the time. That such advanced math is largely absent from polling analysis seems odd to me. MAybe we could even fund a reserach fellow for a year to look into this further. It would only take about 40k.

There are numerous other technology avenues we could pursue. For example, packaging audio from multiple liberal analysts and bloggers into a weekly podcast that we could then deliver to NPR or local public radio venues. Or funding a project to create a new API that integrates any blog RSS feed with a Wiki (analogous to Jotspot, but more universal). Or actually trying to bridge the gap between wikis and tags, or unifying the concept of forums and blogs. Or bridging from RSS to mobile phones and text messaging services.

Suppose all my ideas above were reality in 18 months. It would give us a massive advantage over the rightside in 08. And thats just scracthing teh surface with a bunch of ideas I pulled out of my ass. Imagine what a panel of technology advocates coudl come up with, given the opportunity.


by azizhp on Mon Dec 04, 2006 at 09:24:04 AM EST

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There were many, many technology forums.


by The Cunctator on Mon Dec 04, 2006 at 11:21:39 AM EST
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like tech sux I which then gave way to session tech sux 2
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by Adam Conner on Mon Dec 04, 2006 at 11:48:40 AM EST
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Some of the tech sessions that I attended included: Tech Sux II (which was a more manageable version of tech sux I), one on how to make the case for technology investments within progressive organziations, I held one called Political Programmers Geek-Out which had an incredible mix of Dem technologists and there were other sessions that addressed data interchange in detail. Overall, I felt like there was reasonable progress made through sharing experience and hashing through tough issues. And the energy from a few of these is actively being carried forward through new email lists and projects kicked off in the hallways. I'd say the next big step would be a tech-only RootsCamp.

BTW, I think you've hit the nail on the head with this statement and for the past year this has been my own personal crusade:

Instead of using new web tools to build links between blogs and knit together the progressive blogsphere into a larger whole, its evolved into isolated silos.

There are a couple exciting projects happening to directly address this issue of busting the silos - one of which Jerome is alluding to and will probably explain better as we progress. And there were too many RootsCamp conversations around this to count. Your own ideas and projects are exactly the type of things we should be doing, but there are ways to facilitate and empower those efforts.


by clockwerks on Mon Dec 04, 2006 at 04:24:14 PM EST
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RSS readers are the best way to knit blogs together. Local Lefty blogs is the best known, Virginia Political Blogs is another.

What I would like is an RSS tool so that anyone, including those of us who are technically impaired, could create our own RSS reader. Of course Blogdigger offers that, but it doesn't do a good enough job of grabbing RSS feeds, and I cannot persuade it to pick us many of the blogs that I read. Also, it just picks off the first couple of lines, whereas Virginia Political blogs picks up the whole post.


by Alice Marshall on Mon Dec 04, 2006 at 05:48:22 PM EST
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well, I look forward to details on that. I hadnt assumed I was the only one thinking these things; but maybe my comment came off that way unintentionally. Still, aside from a cryptic comment form kos a few weeks ago about the new blog platform to replace scoop, there hasnt been much mention of any technology issues anywhere, so its a pretty well kept secret it seems. A list of topics (or even minutes of the meeting) from the tech forums at rootscamp would be a good start.


by azizhp on Mon Dec 04, 2006 at 11:45:24 PM EST
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50 state blog strategy?

Try a SoapBlox!  We're already doing that.


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by pacified on Mon Dec 04, 2006 at 12:57:13 PM EST

More detail on the Van session please (none / 0)

Can you point to someone or some site which has more information.  We have a problem that the VAN has a lot of function but a closed proprietary interface and is difficult to integrate in other systems.


by msobel on Mon Dec 04, 2006 at 02:03:57 PM EST

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I haven't found anyone who has posted their notes from the VAN related sessions at RootsCampDC, but if & when they do get posted - they'll probably end up here on the RootsCamp wiki.

However, I do know that VAN is well aware of your concern, has heard it from many people (including at RootsCamp) and that they are working to improve that. Hopefully, they'll have more news on that soon.

The session they held seemed mostly focused on getting feedback on their software from an end-user perspective, not a system integration standpoint.


by clockwerks on Mon Dec 04, 2006 at 04:49:50 PM EST
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