Senators With Governors From the Opposing Party

With all eyes currently on South Dakota, and with our thoughts and prayers headed toward Senator Tim Johnson, I thought it might be helpful to provide a list of Senators who hail from states with Governors from the opposing party.

Democratic or Third-Party Senators From States With Republican Governors (19)
Boxer (CA), Feinstein (CA), Dodd (CT), Lieberman (CT), Nelson (FL), Akaka (HI), Inouye (HI), Bayh (IN), Klobuchar (MN), McCaskill (MO), Nelson (NE), Reid (NV), Conrad (ND), Dorgan (ND), Reed (RI), Whitehouse (RI), Johnson (SD), Leahy (VT), Sanders (VT)

Republican Senators From States With Democratic Governors (24)
Kyl (AZ), McCain (AZ), Allard (CO), Grassley (IA), Brownback (KS), Roberts (KS), Vitter (LA), Collins (ME), Snow (ME), Gregg (NH), Sununu (NH), Domenici (NM), Burr (NC), Dole (NC), Voinovich (OH), Coburn (OK), Inhofe (OK), Smith (OR), Specter (PA), Alexander (TN), Corker (TN), Warner (VA), Craig (WY), Enzi (WY)

In addition to South Dakota, these are the states where unexpected events could tip the balance of power in the Senate. In case you weren't counting, that means there are twelve states where Democrats have the Governor-two Senator trifecta, and nine states where Republicans hold that trifecta. Twenty-nine states are split, with Democrats hlding a 2-1 edge in fourteen states, and Republicans holding a 2-1 edge in fifteen states.

Update: The AP has apparently decided to bury Johnson alive. Or, at least, their headline indicates they are grotesquely anticipating his death. Truly ghoulish. That's the SCLM for you.

Update 2: From EricJaffa in the comments, South Dakota law may dictate that a special eleciton be held in the even of a vacancy:
12-11-1. Special election to fill congressional vacancy--Time of election of representative. If a vacancy occurs in the office of a senator or representative in the United States Congress it shall be the duty of the Governor within ten days of the occurrence, to issue a proclamation setting the date of and calling for a special election for the purpose of filling such vacancy.
Seems cut and dry to me.

Update [2006-12-14 12:28:24 by Jonathan Singer]: A couple of other sections of the statute seem to override the one mentioned above.

12-11-4. Temporary appointment by Governor to fill vacancy in United States Senate. Pursuant to the Seventeenth Amendment to the Constitution of the United States of America, the Governor may fill by temporary appointment, until a special election is held pursuant to this chapter, vacancies in the office of senator in the Senate of the United States.

And...

12-11-5. Special election to fill senate vacancy. The special election to fill the vacancy of a senator shall be held at the same time as the next general election. The general election laws shall apply unless inconsistent with this chapter.



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Re: Senators With Governors From the Opposing Part (none / 0)

Does anyone know of a site that lists which states require a Governor to appoint someone from the same party? I know a few hav that statute.

That might be a good netroots project for the future to try to get state laws introduced and passed.


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by robliberal on Thu Dec 14, 2006 at 11:34:15 AM EST

Re: Senators With Governors From the Opposing Part (none / 0)

Hawaii. Not sure about the others.


by raginillinoian on Thu Dec 14, 2006 at 11:42:24 AM EST
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Re: Senators With Governors From the Opposing Part (none / 0)

Yes, with Inouye and Akaka both two of the eldest senators, this is an important point. Were they unable to continue to serve out their terms, Lingle, the Republican governor, would have to appoint a Democrat to replace them. Might not be a Democrat to our liking (e.g. she could appoint Ed Case), but it wouldn't affect the balance of power in the Senate.

The laws says "the person so appointed [...] shall be a registered member of the same political party as the senator causing the vacancy." It doesn't say how long they would have had to have been such a member, so I guess technically anyone could just join the party and then be appointed by the governor. But it still wouldn't affect the balance in the Senate.

Here's the State of Hawaii Office of Elections Fact Sheet on Succession to Vacancies and here's the applicable Hawaii Revised Statute.


by scottmaui on Thu Dec 14, 2006 at 12:47:31 PM EST
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Re: Senators With Governors From the Opposing Part (none / 0)

I think Wyoming does as well.


by dbeard115 on Thu Dec 14, 2006 at 12:22:18 PM EST
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Wyoming (none / 0)

Per Wyoming law, in the event of a vacancy in one of Wyoming's two U.S. Senate seats the state party committee (from the party to which the vacating Senator belonged) selects three candidates.  The Governor then selects one of those three candidates as the temporary replacement to fill the vacated Senate seat.


by Collideascope on Fri Dec 15, 2006 at 09:08:55 AM EST
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Re: Wyoming (none / 0)

I think the Hawaii legislature passed a similar act last year that was vetoed by the Republican governor. They may try again, and do have the votes to override her.

Today's Star-Bulletin editorial calls for the laws to be changed to a special election.

More discussion of Hawaii's situation at Poinography.com.


by scottmaui on Sat Dec 16, 2006 at 03:23:55 PM EST
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Re: Senators With Governors From the Opposing Part (3.00 / 1)

This CRS report tells you everything. It's a little out-of-date, since it was published before Massachusetts stripped its governor of his appointment power.

Summary: OR, WI, and now MA do not allow the governor to appoint a temporary senator. OK is the same way, except with a very minor wrinkle. AK, AZ, and HI require the governor to appoint someone of the same party as the person vacating the seat. UT and WY require the governor to appoint someone from a list of three candidates proposed by the state committee of the party of the person vacating the seat.


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by bschak on Thu Dec 14, 2006 at 12:42:52 PM EST
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Re: Senators With Governors From the Opposing Part (none / 0)

To be really complete, you'd have to see what the laws of these states actually say about the Governor's power to appoint replacements.  Sadly, my days as a junior associate doing 50-state surveys of law are behind me.

I also wonder how many historical examples there are of Governors "doing the right thing" by appointing, say, someone's spouse, or someone else who wasn't a member of the Governor's party.


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by Steve M on Thu Dec 14, 2006 at 11:38:47 AM EST

I agree (none / 0)

My sense is that, just like with redistricting law and practice, every state is different - and sometimes in ways that a Googling out-of-stater can't remotely get at.

It would certainly be useful to have this information - as long as it had been checked by in-state guys who have the real dope, and gives us all the caveats and wrinkles.


by skeptic06 on Thu Dec 14, 2006 at 11:47:15 AM EST
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What about Tennessee? (none / 0)

The two Tennessee senators are Frist (soon to be Corker) and Alexander....the governor is Bredesen (a Democrat). Bredesen serves until 2010.


by RobertNAtl on Thu Dec 14, 2006 at 11:41:18 AM EST

Re: What about Tennessee? (none / 0)

OH yeah! Thanks. I forgot that one.
by Chris Bowers on Thu Dec 14, 2006 at 11:44:19 AM EST
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Why does the AP keep writing that the (3.00 / 1)

...South Dakota governor would appoint the replacement, when South Dakota law seems to say the opposite?

http://legis.state.sd.us/statutes/Displa yStatute.aspx?Type=Statute&Statute=1 2-11-1


12-11-1.   Special election to fill congressional vacancy--Time of election of representative. If a vacancy occurs in the office of a senator or representative in the United States Congress it shall be the duty of the Governor within ten days of the occurrence, to issue a proclamation setting the date of and calling for a special election for the purpose of filling such vacancy. If either a primary or general election is to be held within six months, an election to fill a vacancy in the office of representative in the United States Congress shall be held in conjunction with that election, otherwise the election shall be held not less than eighty nor more than ninety days after the vacancy occurs.


by EricJaffa on Thu Dec 14, 2006 at 11:56:10 AM EST

SD special election law FAQ (none / 0)

Q: What does §12-11-1 say?

A: According to §12-11-1, the governor must call a special election for House or Senate vacancies within 10 days. §12-11-1 also discusses the timeframe for House special elections, such as happened when Rep. Janklow resigned in 2004. The title of §12-11-1 ("Time of election of representative") should be a tip-off that it doesn't address the time of a special election for senator.

Q: So what? When would the special election be?

A: According to §12-11-5 (entitled "Special election to fill senate vacancy"), "The special election to fill the vacancy of a senator shall be held at the same time as the next general election."

Q: So when is the next general election?

A: According to §12-2-2, it's only in November of even-numbered years, i.e., 11/4/2008.

Q: But there is a regularly scheduled election on that for Johnson's seat in 2008. Will there be a separate special election aside from the ordinary election?

A: No. There is an exception (§12-11-6) saying that no special election will be held in 2008 since the ordinary election for that seat will be held in 2008 anyhow. That means that a hypothetical appointed replacement in the event of a Johnson vacancy would serve until 1/3/09. Such a situation happened when Francis Case (R) died in 1962: His appointed replacement, Joseph Bottum (R), served until 1/3/1963, when George McGovern (D), who had been elected in the general election on 11/6/1962, took over for a full term.

Q: Why would a rational legislature mandate speedy special elections for House vacancies (such as happened when Rep. Janklow resigned in 2004) but not for Senate vacancies?

A: Probably because the governor can fill a Senate vacancy but not a House vacancy.

Q: Has it happened before that an appointed South Dakota U.S. Senator served well over a year?

A: Yes. Senator Herbert Hitchcock (D-SD) served almost two years as an appointed senator (1936-1938) after the death of Peter Norbeck (R-SD). See their pages at Congress's site and at Wikipedia for more information.

Q: Is there any provision in the Constitution, the Senate rules, or SD law for the removal of an incapacitated senator?

A: No.


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by bschak on Thu Dec 14, 2006 at 12:56:13 PM EST
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Did you write the FAQ? (none / 0)

NT


by EricJaffa on Thu Dec 14, 2006 at 06:00:20 PM EST
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Re: Did you write the FAQ? (none / 0)

Yeah, I should've made that clear. (I was getting tired of the same misconceptions coming up over on Kos, so I put everything together in one place.)


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by bschak on Sat Dec 16, 2006 at 01:51:39 PM EST
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Chance that Maine Senators switch (none / 0)

Maybe Maine constituents e-mail their senators to switch?

Or Spector--can we court him to switch?


by jasmine on Thu Dec 14, 2006 at 11:57:07 AM EST

Re: Chance that Maine Senators switch (none / 0)

Specter?  Why?  He used to be a Dem(a long time ago).  After being such a toady for Bush, why would we even want him?  I say it and Specter is my Senator(along with Casey).  Specter is a tool.  Let him stay with the Repubs.


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by Calvin Jones and the 13th Apostle on Thu Dec 14, 2006 at 12:27:42 PM EST
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If we're going to be jumping to conclusions ..... (none / 0)

Daschle is a shoe-in in a special election.


by Cleveland John on Thu Dec 14, 2006 at 12:13:44 PM EST

AP blew a fact or two (none / 0)

AP, from the link: If Johnson is unable to serve, South Dakota Gov. Michael Rounds, a Republican, would appoint someone to fill his vacated seat.

WRONG.

If Johnson is unable to serve, and neither he nor the Senate does anything further about it, Johnson is still Senator.  There would be no vacancy, and Gov. Rounds would be unable to appoint anybody to anything.

If Johnson were to die or resign, there would be a vacancy.  Or if the remaining 99 Senators (with a 50-49 Dem edge, assuming no Liebertrayal) were to use their powers under Article I, Section 5 to determine that Johnson was no longer qualified to be a U.S. Senator, there would be a vacancy.

Under those circumstances, Gov. Rounds would be able to choose Johnson's replacement.

In recent history, as MSNBC and the NY Times point out, Senators have been incapacitated for months or years without any vacancy being declared:

The Senate historian's office cites several examples of a senator being incapacitated for years and remaining in office.

Most recently, Sen. Karl Mundt (coincidentally, also from South Dakota) suffered a stroke in 1969 and was incapacitated, but he refused to step down. He remained in office until January 1973, when his term expired. Mundt was pressured repeatedly to step down during his illness, but he demanded that the governor promise to appoint his wife. The governor refused, and Mundt remained in office.

Another example was Sen. Carter Glass, D-Va. Glass had a heart condition that prevented him from working for most of his last term after his re-election in 1942. Yet Glass refused to resign, and finally died of congestive heart failure in May 1946, in his apartment at the Mayflower Hotel in Washington.


According to information from the Senate historian cited on CQ.com, at least nine senators have taken extended absences from the Senate for health reasons since 1942. Robert F. Wagner, Democrat of New York, was unable to attend any sessions of the 80th or 81st Congress from 1947 to 1949 because of a heart ailment. Senator Joseph R. Biden Jr., Democrat of Delaware, missed about seven months in 1988 after surgery for a brain aneurysm. And David Pryor, Democrat of Arkansas, suffered a heart attack in April 1991 and returned to the Senate in September that year.

So barring death or resignation, there's no Senate vacancy until the Senate says there is.

This would give the Dem majority in the Senate (and 50-49 is still a voting majority, sidelining Cheney) room to deal.  They could strike a deal with Gov. Rounds where the Dems agreed to declare a vacancy if he agreed to appoint Rep. Herseth to fill Johnson's seat for the rest of his term.

This would be a good deal for both the national Dems and the SD GOP: it would at least give the SD GOP the consolation prizes of (a) having a shot at retaking Herseth's seat as an open seat in a special election, and (b) having a shot at the Senate seat in 2008, with Herseth still being a very new incumbent.  That would matter less to the national Dem party, since we expect to gain Senate seats in the more favorable environment of 2008.

It would be a lousy deal for the national GOP, and it would be a somewhat risky course for the SD Dems, too.  But they wouldn't be players in a negotiation of this sort - just the Senate Dems and the SD Gov.

Reposted to clear up the formatting.  Sorry about the double post. - RT


by RT on Thu Dec 14, 2006 at 12:14:49 PM EST

Re: AP blew a fact or two (none / 0)

No sweat. I removed the other post to clear up the thread.
by Chris Bowers on Thu Dec 14, 2006 at 12:18:53 PM EST
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Re: Vacancy? (none / 0)

RT hits the nail on the head, while others have been flailing around: What constitutes a vacancy, and who or what establishes that the seat is vacant? The only sure things are (1) the death or (2) resignation of the incumbent.

Unless there is something specific in S.D. law defining vacancy in some other way, there will be no change.

Same deal if the wording is "incapacitated." Who or what defines incapacitated? Remember the big deal over Terry Schiavo and all the Republicans declaring that she might recover? Plenty of opportunity for being two-faced on that score.

Wasn't there a Senator from Missouri in recent years who died during his campaign, was left on the ballot, and won anyway? And only then was the seat declared vacant and his wife appointed to serve his term?

And Woodrow Wilson had a stroke, IIRC, while in office, and served out his term though virtually incapacitated.

Bob


by Bob Schacht on Thu Dec 14, 2006 at 06:22:34 PM EST
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Re: Senators With Governors From the Opposing Part (none / 0)

I'd forgotten about Biden's brain surgery. IIRC, he had a much worse incident than Johnson.


by phillydem on Thu Dec 14, 2006 at 12:40:25 PM EST

Re: South Dakota Law (none / 0)

It is important that people know that 12-11-1 does not seem to apply to Senator Johnson (or any other Senator). Walt Starr in the comments of the Daily Kos thread brings up the applicable South Dakota law.

12-11-4.   Temporary appointment by Governor to fill vacancy in United States Senate. Pursuant to the Seventeenth Amendment to the Constitution of the United States of America, the Governor may fill by temporary appointment, until a special election is held pursuant to this chapter, vacancies in the office of senator in the Senate of the United States.

12-11-5.   Special election to fill senate vacancy. The special election to fill the vacancy of a senator shall be held at the same time as the next general election. The general election laws shall apply unless inconsistent with this chapter.

12-2-2.   Date of general election--Officers elected. On the first Tuesday after the first Monday in November of each even-numbered year an election shall be held in the several election precincts in the state, which shall be known as the general election and the several state, district, and county officers, members of the Legislature, senators and representatives in Congress, and judges of the Supreme and Circuit Courts shall be elected at the general election next preceding the expiration of the term of each of such officers, respectively, except such officers as are required by law to be elected at a special election; and in a year when a President and vice-president of the United States are to be chosen, a number of electors of President and vice-president of the United States, equal to the number of senators and representatives in Congress to which the state may be entitled or such other number as the Congress of the United States may require, shall be selected at such election.

12-11-1, which originally applied to the Senate as well as the House, was written in 1890. When the 17th Amendment passed in 1913, 12-11-4 and 12-11-5 were added to bring South Dakota into compliance. 12-11-1 now applies only to the Representitives in the House.

But more importantly than my reading of the South Dakota law or Walt Starr's reading of the South Dakota law, is the fact that this is how the South Dakota law has been interpreted in the past (h/t bschak @ DailyKos) and that South Dakota's Secretary of State reads the law the same way (h/t a gnostic @ DailyKos).


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by ltsply2 on Thu Dec 14, 2006 at 12:49:39 PM EST

While we're having morbid discussions... (none / 0)

Here are the same lists as above, but with senators from AK, AZ, HI, MA, OK, UT, WI, and WY removed, since those states have restrictions on gubernatorial appointments. I've also recorded their ages as of 1/3/07.

Relevant Democratic or Third-Party Senators from States with Republican Governors (17, with 1 over 70)
Feinstein (CA-73), Boxer (CA-66), Dodd (CT-62), Lieberman (CT-64), Nelson (FL-64), Bayh (IN-51), Klobuchar (MN-46), McCaskill (MO-53), Nelson (NE-65), Reid (NV-67), Dorgan (ND-64), Conrad (ND-58), Reed (RI-57), Whitehouse (RI-51), Johnson (SD-60), Leahy (VT-66), Sanders (VT-65)

Relevant Republican Senators from States with Democratic Governors (24, with 7 over 70)
Allard (CO-66), Grassley (IA-73), Brownback (KS-50), Roberts (KS-70), Vitter (LA-55), Snowe (ME-59), Collins (ME-54), Gregg (NH-59), Sununu (NH-52), Domenici (NM-74), Dole (NC-70), Burr (NC-51), Voinovich (OH-70), Smith (OR-54), Specter (PA-76), Alexander (TN-66), Corker (TN-54), Warner (VA-79)


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